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(Slate)   "My husband and I have a 1-year-old daughter. Our parents all live in a state where gun ownership is common. I've talked to my parents about the shotgun they own; my father-in-law is a racist sexist ass who left a gun out. How can I scold him?"   (slate.com) divider line
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358 clicks; posted to Discussion » on 30 Jun 2020 at 9:50 AM (13 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2020-06-30 7:30:56 AM  
15 votes:
Stop going over there if they're going to be irresponsible around you and your family. That's easy.
 
2020-06-30 7:22:54 AM  
14 votes:
You cut them off.  Completely.  When they grovel, they may return.  If they do not grovel, good riddance.
 
2020-06-30 7:14:00 AM  
12 votes:
being an irresponsible gun owner is not a cultural choice! It's just idiocy.

Nailed it.

This needs to be a national slogan, after the current idiocracy is over and adults are in charge of the government again.
 
2020-06-30 10:26:07 AM  
9 votes:

EvilEgg: dionysusaur: Take a trigger lock with you.
If it's not put away, lock it and hold the key until you leave.

That was my plan, except I might mail them the key a few months later, maybe.    Or just remove the firing pin.



That is a bad idea.   You can, for example, take the car keys of someone you know is drunk, but you can't hold on to them for months without committing a crime.  Or take a vital part and keep it past the immediate time of danger.

That's theft, and that would put you in legal jeopardy.

Also, trigger locks are bad.  *NEVER* use a trigger lock, because they violate one of the major safety rules:  Don't put your finger in the trigger until you are ready to fire.  Use something like a cable lock that keeps the action open instead, or a safe.

Never use a trigger lock!
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2020-06-30 7:10:26 AM  
9 votes:
When you get there just ask them if the gun is put away. Done. No need to make a huge issue out of it how do these people survive to adulthood?
 
2020-06-30 8:52:09 AM  
6 votes:
Not your job to scold the old idiot, it's your job to protect your child from his idiocy.
 
2020-06-30 7:20:13 AM  
4 votes:

RTOGUY: When you get there just ask them if the gun is put away. Done. No need to make a huge issue out of it how do these people survive to adulthood?


It makes you wonder when you have to ask.the question each time you visit.
 
2020-06-30 2:49:16 PM  
3 votes:
You don't get to dictate to him how/where he stores his firearm.  But at the same time, you do get to dictate the terms under which you will allow him to see his grandchild.

In the end, you just have to give him a choice: store the gun safely or never see his granddaughter.
 
2020-06-30 9:09:02 AM  
3 votes:

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I will give that dude credit for not having his finger on the trigger while he pointed the gun at the people walking past his house.

Unlike his wife...
 
2020-06-30 8:15:07 AM  
3 votes:
Take a trigger lock with you.
If it's not put away, lock it and hold the key until you leave.
 
2020-06-30 8:10:03 AM  
3 votes:
Your kid never goes this again.  Period.  I am from families where gun ownership is common.  This would never fly.  That kid would never go to that house again.
 
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2020-06-30 7:55:28 AM  
3 votes:
Say you won't visit any more if he does it ever again.

Either he listens or you don't have to go see your in-laws anymore, win-win.
 
2020-06-30 3:45:15 PM  
2 votes:

Elegy: Stop getting pissed at dad for your own failings. Trigger locks, cable locks, gun safes, all that liberal bullshiat is just a crutch for irresponsible gun owners and they will absolutely get you killed- because when you need a gun you need a gun. Educate your family about gun safety instead.

I have two young 'uns aged 9 and 10. Since my oldest was 1 year old, I've kept my loaded shotgun in the corner of the closet and my loaded revolver in my nightstand drawer. Rather than try to lock the gun away and pretend it doesn't exist, I educated mine how to act around guns like a real parent does. I just wack em with a rolled up newspaper and tell 'em bad dogin a firm voice. We've never had a problem, both are pretty smart and well behaved.


Like you, there are parents that claim that they have taught their children to "never touch a gun"

They, and you, are delusional; what will they do when you are not there to "Whack Them" research has been done in this area where a gun is left concealed in a room with children who have been taught "never touch a gun" The parents involved always absolutely guarantee that  their children would never even touch a gun. They kids find the gun and invariably touch and handle it!

Why? Because guns are more than weapons; they are magical symbols of power, not only to adults but even more so to children.

And you just leave a loaded shotgun in plain view! And you call yourself an adult!
 
2020-06-30 11:40:14 AM  
2 votes:

Elegy: Stop getting pissed at dad for your own failings. Trigger locks, cable locks, gun safes, all that liberal bullshiat is just a crutch for irresponsible gun owners and they will absolutely get you killed- because when you need a gun you need a gun. Educate your family about gun safety instead.

I have two young 'uns aged 9 and 10. Since my oldest was 1 year old, I've kept my loaded shotgun in the corner of the closet and my loaded revolver in my nightstand drawer. Rather than try to lock the gun away and pretend it doesn't exist, I educated mine how to act around guns like a real parent does. Any time they start playing around my guns, I just wack em with a rolled up newspaper and tell 'em bad dogin a firm voice. We've never had a problem, both are pretty smart and well behaved.


You're a moron. And a coward.
 
2020-06-30 9:52:29 AM  
2 votes:
You could just ask him not to leave the gun out around the 1 year old who's definitely not leaving someone's arms because....babby....fictitious woman who totally exists, we promise.
 
2020-06-30 8:14:16 AM  
2 votes:
The plus here is you don't have to deal with the entitled idiot for a year or so. When and if you do go back, absolutely insist the guns need to be locked away while your kid is there (especially since she'll be 2 or 3, prime time for curiosity).

/ 50/50 this situation solves itself tragically before then
 
2020-06-30 5:59:31 PM  
1 vote:

Frederick45: Elegy:  I've kept my loaded shotgun in the corner of the closet 

And you just leave a loaded shotgun in plain view! And you call yourself an adult!



In the corner of the closet doesn't exactly sound like "in plain view" to me.
 
2020-06-30 4:12:47 PM  
1 vote:

Frederick45: One more comment on guns and children: There are parents that claim that they have taught their children to "never touch a gun"

They are delusional; research has been done in this area where a gun is left concealed in a room with children who have been taught "never touch a gun" The parents involved always absolutely guarantee that  their children would never even touch a gun. They kids find the gun and invariably touch and handle it!

Why? Because guns are more than weapons; they are magical symbols of power, not only to adults but even more so to children. Do not take children to the homes of gun owners. You are warned!


The alternate way is to begin training as early as possible (my Dad started with us at 6), with emphasis on what a gun can and will do if handled improperly. After the kid has shot one a few times, a lot of the mystery is gone.
 
2020-06-30 12:21:36 PM  
1 vote:

realmolo: EvilEgg: realmolo: Elegy: Stop getting pissed at dad for your own failings. Trigger locks, cable locks, gun safes, all that liberal bullshiat is just a crutch for irresponsible gun owners and they will absolutely get you killed- because when you need a gun you need a gun. Educate your family about gun safety instead.

I have two young 'uns aged 9 and 10. Since my oldest was 1 year old, I've kept my loaded shotgun in the corner of the closet and my loaded revolver in my nightstand drawer. Rather than try to lock the gun away and pretend it doesn't exist, I educated mine how to act around guns like a real parent does. Any time they start playing around my guns, I just wack em with a rolled up newspaper and tell 'em bad dogin a firm voice. We've never had a problem, both are pretty smart and well behaved.

You're a moron. And a coward.

I'm not entirely certain he isn't talking about actual dogs.

You may be right. In which case, I feel like an idiot.


You are not an idiot and he is a moron. A spray bottle of water, NOT a rolled-up newspaper, is the correct and HUMANE way to correct behavior in young children.
 
2020-06-30 11:53:30 AM  
1 vote:

EvilEgg: realmolo: Elegy: Stop getting pissed at dad for your own failings. Trigger locks, cable locks, gun safes, all that liberal bullshiat is just a crutch for irresponsible gun owners and they will absolutely get you killed- because when you need a gun you need a gun. Educate your family about gun safety instead.

I have two young 'uns aged 9 and 10. Since my oldest was 1 year old, I've kept my loaded shotgun in the corner of the closet and my loaded revolver in my nightstand drawer. Rather than try to lock the gun away and pretend it doesn't exist, I educated mine how to act around guns like a real parent does. Any time they start playing around my guns, I just wack em with a rolled up newspaper and tell 'em bad dogin a firm voice. We've never had a problem, both are pretty smart and well behaved.

You're a moron. And a coward.

I'm not entirely certain he isn't talking about actual dogs.


You may be right. In which case, I feel like an idiot.
 
2020-06-30 11:11:25 AM  
1 vote:

enry: RTOGUY: When you get there just ask them if the gun is put away. Done. No need to make a huge issue out of it how do these people survive to adulthood?

It makes you wonder when you have to ask.the question each time you visit.


That's not much of a burden.  People who don't live with kids in the house don't have the same mental patterns.  They're not constantly worried about the guns being put up.  It's not much to ask and remind an older person "Hey, kids are over, make sure you didn't forget to put up the gun!"

And considering what is at stake, we're talking about a sliver of prevention to stop a ton of problems.

PLUS, now you know a great gift to get the inlaws - one of those quick open palm reading safes.  They cost like 100-200 and make it so the proper owner can access the gun almost instantly.
 
2020-06-30 10:02:30 AM  
1 vote:
Butt stuff.
 
2020-06-30 9:54:17 AM  
1 vote:
Shoot him. Blame the baby.
 
2020-06-30 9:10:41 AM  
1 vote:
Tap dancing around offending the folks?  I wonder how much they expect to inherit...
 
2020-06-30 8:24:31 AM  
1 vote:

dionysusaur: Take a trigger lock with you.
If it's not put away, lock it and hold the key until you leave.


That was my plan, except I might mail them the key a few months later, maybe.    Or just remove the firing pin.
 
2020-06-30 8:12:26 AM  
1 vote:
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2020-06-30 7:20:18 AM  
1 vote:
Wing him or knee cap him...that will teach him to leave a shotgun lying around.
 
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