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(Slate)   "My husband and I have a 1-year-old daughter. Our parents all live in a state where gun ownership is common. I've talked to my parents about the shotgun they own; my father-in-law is a racist sexist ass who left a gun out. How can I scold him?"   (slate.com) divider line
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2020-06-30 7:10:26 AM  
When you get there just ask them if the gun is put away. Done. No need to make a huge issue out of it how do these people survive to adulthood?
 
2020-06-30 7:14:00 AM  
being an irresponsible gun owner is not a cultural choice! It's just idiocy.

Nailed it.

This needs to be a national slogan, after the current idiocracy is over and adults are in charge of the government again.
 
2020-06-30 7:20:13 AM  

RTOGUY: When you get there just ask them if the gun is put away. Done. No need to make a huge issue out of it how do these people survive to adulthood?


It makes you wonder when you have to ask.the question each time you visit.
 
2020-06-30 7:20:18 AM  
Wing him or knee cap him...that will teach him to leave a shotgun lying around.
 
2020-06-30 7:22:54 AM  
You cut them off.  Completely.  When they grovel, they may return.  If they do not grovel, good riddance.
 
2020-06-30 7:24:02 AM  

Sorelian's Ghost: Wing him or knee cap him...that will teach him to leave a shotgun lying around.


No need for that.  But do by all means pull the trigger to check if its loaded.  Maybe point it at the couch first.  You don't want to act irresponsibly.
 
2020-06-30 7:30:56 AM  
Stop going over there if they're going to be irresponsible around you and your family. That's easy.
 
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2020-06-30 7:55:28 AM  
Say you won't visit any more if he does it ever again.

Either he listens or you don't have to go see your in-laws anymore, win-win.
 
2020-06-30 8:10:03 AM  
Your kid never goes this again.  Period.  I am from families where gun ownership is common.  This would never fly.  That kid would never go to that house again.
 
2020-06-30 8:12:26 AM  
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2020-06-30 8:14:16 AM  
The plus here is you don't have to deal with the entitled idiot for a year or so. When and if you do go back, absolutely insist the guns need to be locked away while your kid is there (especially since she'll be 2 or 3, prime time for curiosity).

/ 50/50 this situation solves itself tragically before then
 
2020-06-30 8:15:07 AM  
Take a trigger lock with you.
If it's not put away, lock it and hold the key until you leave.
 
2020-06-30 8:24:31 AM  

dionysusaur: Take a trigger lock with you.
If it's not put away, lock it and hold the key until you leave.


That was my plan, except I might mail them the key a few months later, maybe.    Or just remove the firing pin.
 
2020-06-30 8:52:09 AM  
Not your job to scold the old idiot, it's your job to protect your child from his idiocy.
 
2020-06-30 9:09:02 AM  

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I will give that dude credit for not having his finger on the trigger while he pointed the gun at the people walking past his house.

Unlike his wife...
 
2020-06-30 9:10:41 AM  
Tap dancing around offending the folks?  I wonder how much they expect to inherit...
 
2020-06-30 9:52:29 AM  
You could just ask him not to leave the gun out around the 1 year old who's definitely not leaving someone's arms because....babby....fictitious woman who totally exists, we promise.
 
2020-06-30 9:54:17 AM  
Shoot him. Blame the baby.
 
2020-06-30 10:02:30 AM  
Butt stuff.
 
2020-06-30 10:26:07 AM  

EvilEgg: dionysusaur: Take a trigger lock with you.
If it's not put away, lock it and hold the key until you leave.

That was my plan, except I might mail them the key a few months later, maybe.    Or just remove the firing pin.



That is a bad idea.   You can, for example, take the car keys of someone you know is drunk, but you can't hold on to them for months without committing a crime.  Or take a vital part and keep it past the immediate time of danger.

That's theft, and that would put you in legal jeopardy.

Also, trigger locks are bad.  *NEVER* use a trigger lock, because they violate one of the major safety rules:  Don't put your finger in the trigger until you are ready to fire.  Use something like a cable lock that keeps the action open instead, or a safe.

Never use a trigger lock!
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2020-06-30 10:42:22 AM  

dittybopper: EvilEgg: dionysusaur: Take a trigger lock with you.
If it's not put away, lock it and hold the key until you leave.

That was my plan, except I might mail them the key a few months later, maybe.    Or just remove the firing pin.


That is a bad idea.   You can, for example, take the car keys of someone you know is drunk, but you can't hold on to them for months without committing a crime.  Or take a vital part and keep it past the immediate time of danger.

That's theft, and that would put you in legal jeopardy.

Also, trigger locks are bad.  *NEVER* use a trigger lock, because they violate one of the major safety rules:  Don't put your finger in the trigger until you are ready to fire.  Use something like a cable lock that keeps the action open instead, or a safe.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/S_4QvNmf​ti4]


Whatever, clearly it is hyperbole.  In a real situation I would probably just not visit with my child and make it clear that they are welcome to see their grandchild someplace there isn't unsecured handgun.
 
2020-06-30 10:58:57 AM  
Stop getting pissed at dad for your own failings. Trigger locks, cable locks, gun safes, all that liberal bullshiat is just a crutch for irresponsible gun owners and they will absolutely get you killed- because when you need a gun you need a gun. Educate your family about gun safety instead.

I have two young 'uns aged 9 and 10. Since my oldest was 1 year old, I've kept my loaded shotgun in the corner of the closet and my loaded revolver in my nightstand drawer. Rather than try to lock the gun away and pretend it doesn't exist, I educated mine how to act around guns like a real parent does. Any time they start playing around my guns, I just wack em with a rolled up newspaper and tell 'em bad dogin a firm voice. We've never had a problem, both are pretty smart and well behaved.
 
2020-06-30 11:11:25 AM  

enry: RTOGUY: When you get there just ask them if the gun is put away. Done. No need to make a huge issue out of it how do these people survive to adulthood?

It makes you wonder when you have to ask.the question each time you visit.


That's not much of a burden.  People who don't live with kids in the house don't have the same mental patterns.  They're not constantly worried about the guns being put up.  It's not much to ask and remind an older person "Hey, kids are over, make sure you didn't forget to put up the gun!"

And considering what is at stake, we're talking about a sliver of prevention to stop a ton of problems.

PLUS, now you know a great gift to get the inlaws - one of those quick open palm reading safes.  They cost like 100-200 and make it so the proper owner can access the gun almost instantly.
 
2020-06-30 11:40:14 AM  

Elegy: Stop getting pissed at dad for your own failings. Trigger locks, cable locks, gun safes, all that liberal bullshiat is just a crutch for irresponsible gun owners and they will absolutely get you killed- because when you need a gun you need a gun. Educate your family about gun safety instead.

I have two young 'uns aged 9 and 10. Since my oldest was 1 year old, I've kept my loaded shotgun in the corner of the closet and my loaded revolver in my nightstand drawer. Rather than try to lock the gun away and pretend it doesn't exist, I educated mine how to act around guns like a real parent does. Any time they start playing around my guns, I just wack em with a rolled up newspaper and tell 'em bad dogin a firm voice. We've never had a problem, both are pretty smart and well behaved.


You're a moron. And a coward.
 
2020-06-30 11:43:10 AM  

realmolo: Elegy: Stop getting pissed at dad for your own failings. Trigger locks, cable locks, gun safes, all that liberal bullshiat is just a crutch for irresponsible gun owners and they will absolutely get you killed- because when you need a gun you need a gun. Educate your family about gun safety instead.

I have two young 'uns aged 9 and 10. Since my oldest was 1 year old, I've kept my loaded shotgun in the corner of the closet and my loaded revolver in my nightstand drawer. Rather than try to lock the gun away and pretend it doesn't exist, I educated mine how to act around guns like a real parent does. Any time they start playing around my guns, I just wack em with a rolled up newspaper and tell 'em bad dogin a firm voice. We've never had a problem, both are pretty smart and well behaved.

You're a moron. And a coward.


I'm not entirely certain he isn't talking about actual dogs.
 
2020-06-30 11:49:02 AM  

EvilEgg: dittybopper: EvilEgg: dionysusaur: Take a trigger lock with you.
If it's not put away, lock it and hold the key until you leave.

That was my plan, except I might mail them the key a few months later, maybe.    Or just remove the firing pin.


That is a bad idea.   You can, for example, take the car keys of someone you know is drunk, but you can't hold on to them for months without committing a crime.  Or take a vital part and keep it past the immediate time of danger.

That's theft, and that would put you in legal jeopardy.

Also, trigger locks are bad.  *NEVER* use a trigger lock, because they violate one of the major safety rules:  Don't put your finger in the trigger until you are ready to fire.  Use something like a cable lock that keeps the action open instead, or a safe.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/S_4QvNmf​ti4]

Whatever, clearly it is hyperbole.  In a real situation I would probably just not visit with my child and make it clear that they are welcome to see their grandchild someplace there isn't unsecured handgun.


It's *NOT* clear that it's hyperbole.

There are people who really do think in those kinds of terms.  Many of whom post on Fark.  So if you're going to use hyperbole, it has to either be completely obvious ("I'd run a billion miles to lick her nether regions"), or you have to signify it in some way that makes it obvious you're using it as a rhetorical device.

[hyperbole]
This is a notional hyperbolic statement
[/hyperbole]

Plus, I think there is some wiggle room here considering both the age of the child and where the gun is, what kind of a gun it is, and it's condition.

I have a number of unsecured guns in my house, and I don't lock them up when younger kids come over, nor did I lock them up when the littlebopper was actually little.  Yes, the modern guns are in the safe, but the muzzleloaders aren't.  Worse thing that can happen is they'll cut their finger on the flint.

And of course, none of them are loaded, though we also treat them as if they are.

But at least for the flintlocks, there is a foolproof method of determining if they are loaded.  You divide the number of times you've loaded it by the number of times it's gone *BANG*.  If the result isn't precisely 1, the gun is still loaded.
 
2020-06-30 11:51:35 AM  

dittybopper: none of them are loaded, though we also always treat them as if they are.


FTFM.  Normally I wouldn't bother, but that's one of the four rules.
 
2020-06-30 11:53:30 AM  

EvilEgg: realmolo: Elegy: Stop getting pissed at dad for your own failings. Trigger locks, cable locks, gun safes, all that liberal bullshiat is just a crutch for irresponsible gun owners and they will absolutely get you killed- because when you need a gun you need a gun. Educate your family about gun safety instead.

I have two young 'uns aged 9 and 10. Since my oldest was 1 year old, I've kept my loaded shotgun in the corner of the closet and my loaded revolver in my nightstand drawer. Rather than try to lock the gun away and pretend it doesn't exist, I educated mine how to act around guns like a real parent does. Any time they start playing around my guns, I just wack em with a rolled up newspaper and tell 'em bad dogin a firm voice. We've never had a problem, both are pretty smart and well behaved.

You're a moron. And a coward.

I'm not entirely certain he isn't talking about actual dogs.


You may be right. In which case, I feel like an idiot.
 
2020-06-30 12:21:36 PM  

realmolo: EvilEgg: realmolo: Elegy: Stop getting pissed at dad for your own failings. Trigger locks, cable locks, gun safes, all that liberal bullshiat is just a crutch for irresponsible gun owners and they will absolutely get you killed- because when you need a gun you need a gun. Educate your family about gun safety instead.

I have two young 'uns aged 9 and 10. Since my oldest was 1 year old, I've kept my loaded shotgun in the corner of the closet and my loaded revolver in my nightstand drawer. Rather than try to lock the gun away and pretend it doesn't exist, I educated mine how to act around guns like a real parent does. Any time they start playing around my guns, I just wack em with a rolled up newspaper and tell 'em bad dogin a firm voice. We've never had a problem, both are pretty smart and well behaved.

You're a moron. And a coward.

I'm not entirely certain he isn't talking about actual dogs.

You may be right. In which case, I feel like an idiot.


You are not an idiot and he is a moron. A spray bottle of water, NOT a rolled-up newspaper, is the correct and HUMANE way to correct behavior in young children.
 
2020-06-30 12:26:32 PM  

dittybopper: EvilEgg: dittybopper: EvilEgg: dionysusaur: Take a trigger lock with you.
If it's not put away, lock it and hold the key until you leave.

That was my plan, except I might mail them the key a few months later, maybe.    Or just remove the firing pin.


That is a bad idea.   You can, for example, take the car keys of someone you know is drunk, but you can't hold on to them for months without committing a crime.  Or take a vital part and keep it past the immediate time of danger.

That's theft, and that would put you in legal jeopardy.

Also, trigger locks are bad.  *NEVER* use a trigger lock, because they violate one of the major safety rules:  Don't put your finger in the trigger until you are ready to fire.  Use something like a cable lock that keeps the action open instead, or a safe.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/S_4QvNmf​ti4]

Whatever, clearly it is hyperbole.  In a real situation I would probably just not visit with my child and make it clear that they are welcome to see their grandchild someplace there isn't unsecured handgun.

It's *NOT* clear that it's hyperbole.

There are people who really do think in those kinds of terms.  Many of whom post on Fark.  So if you're going to use hyperbole, it has to either be completely obvious ("I'd run a billion miles to lick her nether regions"), or you have to signify it in some way that makes it obvious you're using it as a rhetorical device.

[hyperbole]
This is a notional hyperbolic statement
[/hyperbole]

Plus, I think there is some wiggle room here considering both the age of the child and where the gun is, what kind of a gun it is, and it's condition.

I have a number of unsecured guns in my house, and I don't lock them up when younger kids come over, nor did I lock them up when the littlebopper was actually little.  Yes, the modern guns are in the safe, but the muzzleloaders aren't.  Worse thing that can happen is they'll cut their finger on the flint.

And of course, none of them are loaded, thou ...


To be fair, it wasn't entirely hyperbole.  It was hyperbole with internet tough guy mixed in.

I wouldn't worry so much about the flint locks and muzzle loaders, you have to have some idea of what you're doing to get those to fire if they aren't loaded.  And I don't imagine too many are left hanging around loaded.  Although it would be fun to shout "Have at thee knave" and fire one at a intruder, sadly that scenario is unlikely.

Modern guns are more an issue.  You can teach your kids all you want, but they're kids and that means they are prone to doing stupid stuff.
 
2020-06-30 12:51:34 PM  
Check the State's gun laws. In a lot of States having a non-secured firearm around a child is illegal. Plus the joy of your kid watching grandpa perp walked out of the house would be priceless.
 
2020-06-30 1:21:05 PM  

dittybopper: EvilEgg: dionysusaur: Take a trigger lock with you.
If it's not put away, lock it and hold the key until you leave.

That was my plan, except I might mail them the key a few months later, maybe.    Or just remove the firing pin.


That is a bad idea.   You can, for example, take the car keys of someone you know is drunk, but you can't hold on to them for months without committing a crime.  Or take a vital part and keep it past the immediate time of danger.

That's theft, and that would put you in legal jeopardy.

Also, trigger locks are bad.  *NEVER* use a trigger lock, because they violate one of the major safety rules:  Don't put your finger in the trigger until you are ready to fire.  Use something like a cable lock that keeps the action open instead, or a safe.

[YouTube video: Never use a trigger lock!]


I was waiting for an earth-shattering !KABOOM!
/am disappoint
 
2020-06-30 1:27:05 PM  

realmolo: You may be right. In which case, I feel like an idiot.


They're good dogs, Bront.
 
2020-06-30 2:10:06 PM  
Oh FFS secure your firearms. There are so many quick access safes there's no reason not to secure them nowadays. You're hanging a firearm on the wall, take out the firing pin you dimwit. Obviously if you hung it on a wall for display you're not planning of using it for self-defense, because getting to it at night would likely be problematic, and you wouldn't be able to safely leave it loaded. My home defense (around here that's a rifle and a pistol, just in case a bear decides to act belligerent) firearms are always loaded ready to fire.

I had kids, and now grandkids. The kids were raised to understand firearm operation and a healthy respect of the damage they can cause. I used to remove the firing pins of my rifles, and lock the pistol actions open, keeping the ammo in a separate safe from the guns. Safety was not a question, it was a mantra. We never had a visit from the bullet fairy, ever. The only time any of us was injured was by a brass cleaning brush during cleaning.
 
2020-06-30 2:22:21 PM  

realmolo: I have two young 'uns aged 9 and 10. Since my oldest was 1 year old, I've kept my loaded shotgun in the corner of the closet and my loaded revolver in my nightstand drawer. Rather than try to lock the gun away and pretend it doesn't exist, I educated mine how to act around guns like a real parent does. Any time they start playing around my guns, I just wack em with a rolled up newspaper and tell 'em bad dogin a firm voice. We've never had a problem, both are pretty smart and well behaved.
You're a moron. And a coward.


Why? I've never seen a little kid who was into guns unless their dad made them.

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2020-06-30 2:49:16 PM  
You don't get to dictate to him how/where he stores his firearm.  But at the same time, you do get to dictate the terms under which you will allow him to see his grandchild.

In the end, you just have to give him a choice: store the gun safely or never see his granddaughter.
 
2020-06-30 2:56:51 PM  

cryinoutloud: realmolo: I have two young 'uns aged 9 and 10. Since my oldest was 1 year old, I've kept my loaded shotgun in the corner of the closet and my loaded revolver in my nightstand drawer. Rather than try to lock the gun away and pretend it doesn't exist, I educated mine how to act around guns like a real parent does. Any time they start playing around my guns, I just wack em with a rolled up newspaper and tell 'em bad dogin a firm voice. We've never had a problem, both are pretty smart and well behaved.
You're a moron. And a coward.

Why? I've never seen a little kid who was into guns unless their dad made them.

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That's an awful pic, makes me cringe.  The kid is going to rust the barrel and ruin it.
 
2020-06-30 3:02:35 PM  
"Father-in-law is a racist sexist ass who left a gun out where a child can get to it. What more do you need to know? We are not talking 'Reasonable Person' here!

Children get into everything, and you have no way of knowing how many guns he has, or where he may hide backup weapons. If weapons are there, your child will find them. If he has been careless enough to leave  a shotgun in plain view, knowing a child will be visiting, you can't trust him to be careful, no matter what he says.
Don't go there with your child!
 
2020-06-30 3:22:27 PM  
One more comment on guns and children: There are parents that claim that they have taught their children to "never touch a gun"

They are delusional; research has been done in this area where a gun is left concealed in a room with children who have been taught "never touch a gun" The parents involved always absolutely guarantee that  their children would never even touch a gun. They kids find the gun and invariably touch and handle it!

Why? Because guns are more than weapons; they are magical symbols of power, not only to adults but even more so to children. Do not take children to the homes of gun owners. You are warned!
 
2020-06-30 3:45:15 PM  

Elegy: Stop getting pissed at dad for your own failings. Trigger locks, cable locks, gun safes, all that liberal bullshiat is just a crutch for irresponsible gun owners and they will absolutely get you killed- because when you need a gun you need a gun. Educate your family about gun safety instead.

I have two young 'uns aged 9 and 10. Since my oldest was 1 year old, I've kept my loaded shotgun in the corner of the closet and my loaded revolver in my nightstand drawer. Rather than try to lock the gun away and pretend it doesn't exist, I educated mine how to act around guns like a real parent does. I just wack em with a rolled up newspaper and tell 'em bad dogin a firm voice. We've never had a problem, both are pretty smart and well behaved.


Like you, there are parents that claim that they have taught their children to "never touch a gun"

They, and you, are delusional; what will they do when you are not there to "Whack Them" research has been done in this area where a gun is left concealed in a room with children who have been taught "never touch a gun" The parents involved always absolutely guarantee that  their children would never even touch a gun. They kids find the gun and invariably touch and handle it!

Why? Because guns are more than weapons; they are magical symbols of power, not only to adults but even more so to children.

And you just leave a loaded shotgun in plain view! And you call yourself an adult!
 
2020-06-30 4:00:14 PM  

Frederick45: Elegy: Stop getting pissed at dad for your own failings. Trigger locks, cable locks, gun safes, all that liberal bullshiat is just a crutch for irresponsible gun owners and they will absolutely get you killed- because when you need a gun you need a gun. Educate your family about gun safety instead.

I have two young 'uns aged 9 and 10. Since my oldest was 1 year old, I've kept my loaded shotgun in the corner of the closet and my loaded revolver in my nightstand drawer. Rather than try to lock the gun away and pretend it doesn't exist, I educated mine how to act around guns like a real parent does. I just wack em with a rolled up newspaper and tell 'em bad dogin a firm voice. We've never had a problem, both are pretty smart and well behaved.

Like you, there are parents that claim that they have taught their children to "never touch a gun"

They, and you, are delusional; what will they do when you are not there to "Whack Them" research has been done in this area where a gun is left concealed in a room with children who have been taught "never touch a gun" The parents involved always absolutely guarantee that  their children would never even touch a gun. They kids find the gun and invariably touch and handle it!

Why? Because guns are more than weapons; they are magical symbols of power, not only to adults but even more so to children.

And you just leave a loaded shotgun in plain view! And you call yourself an adult!


Or, you know, maybe he just doesn't like kids.
 
2020-06-30 4:02:29 PM  

Elegy: Stop getting pissed at dad for your own failings. Trigger locks, cable locks, gun safes, all that liberal bullshiat is just a crutch for irresponsible gun owners and they will absolutely get you killed- because when you need a gun you need a gun. Educate your family about gun safety instead.

I have two young 'uns aged 9 and 10. Since my oldest was 1 year old, I've kept my loaded shotgun in the corner of the closet and my loaded revolver in my nightstand drawer. Rather than try to lock the gun away and pretend it doesn't exist, I educated mine how to act around guns like a real parent does. Any time they start playing around my guns, I just wack em with a rolled up newspaper and tell 'em bad dogin a firm voice. We've never had a problem, both are pretty smart and well behaved.


Class A Trolling right there.  Just like someone crawled out from under a bridge looking for goats.  It hit all the buttons.

I have my fingers crossed that this was intentional, sarcastic trolling, but if not I'm sure junior 1 or 2 will help resolve the issue one way or another.
 
2020-06-30 4:07:33 PM  

Elegy: Stop getting pissed at dad for your own failings. Trigger locks, cable locks, gun safes, all that liberal bullshiat is just a crutch for irresponsible gun owners and they will absolutely get you killed- because when you need a gun you need a gun. Educate your family about gun safety instead.

I have two young 'uns aged 9 and 10. Since my oldest was 1 year old, I've kept my loaded shotgun in the corner of the closet and my loaded revolver in my nightstand drawer. Rather than try to lock the gun away and pretend it doesn't exist, I educated mine how to act around guns like a real parent does. Any time they start playing around my guns, I just wack em with a rolled up newspaper and tell 'em bad dogin a firm voice. We've never had a problem, both are pretty smart and well behaved.


Fine for 6 and up. LW currently has a 1 year old who will be 2 or 3 on the next visit. That age don't listen to shiat.
 
2020-06-30 4:12:47 PM  

Frederick45: One more comment on guns and children: There are parents that claim that they have taught their children to "never touch a gun"

They are delusional; research has been done in this area where a gun is left concealed in a room with children who have been taught "never touch a gun" The parents involved always absolutely guarantee that  their children would never even touch a gun. They kids find the gun and invariably touch and handle it!

Why? Because guns are more than weapons; they are magical symbols of power, not only to adults but even more so to children. Do not take children to the homes of gun owners. You are warned!


The alternate way is to begin training as early as possible (my Dad started with us at 6), with emphasis on what a gun can and will do if handled improperly. After the kid has shot one a few times, a lot of the mystery is gone.
 
2020-06-30 5:50:10 PM  
Or, you know, you could lock your guns away like a responsible person.
 
2020-06-30 5:59:31 PM  

Frederick45: Elegy:  I've kept my loaded shotgun in the corner of the closet 

And you just leave a loaded shotgun in plain view! And you call yourself an adult!



In the corner of the closet doesn't exactly sound like "in plain view" to me.
 
2020-06-30 6:27:22 PM  

retrobruce: Frederick45: Elegy:  I've kept my loaded shotgun in the corner of the closet
And you just leave a loaded shotgun in plain view! And you call yourself an adult!
In the corner of the closet doesn't exactly sound like "in plain view" to me.


Good thing kids don't like to snoop around in closets or anything
 
2020-06-30 6:49:18 PM  

cryinoutloud: retrobruce: Frederick45: Elegy:  I've kept my loaded shotgun in the corner of the closet
And you just leave a loaded shotgun in plain view! And you call yourself an adult!
In the corner of the closet doesn't exactly sound like "in plain view" to me.

Good thing kids don't like to snoop around in closets or anything


I never said they didn't.
I never said it was safe.

It's still not "in plain view".
 
2020-06-30 7:10:13 PM  
So if it's not in view of the children, or accessible to them, in the closet or not, why does he? " I just wack em with a rolled up newspaper and tell 'em bad dogin a firm voice."

Didn't he make a connection between the shot gun and the presence and the possible behavior of the children?

Maybe he needs to be whacked with a baseball bat for leaving a loaded shotgun accessible by children?
 
2020-06-30 7:16:29 PM  
Oh, he has been a very naughty boy. So naughty. You are going to give him a spanking. Such a hard, hard spanking and teach him a lesson he wont forget.
 
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