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1 day ago  

shadow9d9: Boojum2k: erik-k: Boojum2k: erik-k: pedrop357: Really too bad Hong Kong residents are disarmed.

Not once since the invention of automatic weapons has this gun-wanker fantasy ever happened in real life. Only once before then did something remotely resembling it happen, and without the clandestine support of a major Continental power (and the incredible handicap to the British of being six weeks' sail from supplies and reinforcements) the Revolution would've likely been crushed by 1778.

But surely THIS time the civilian pea shooters would've made the difference. M-hmm *wanking motion*

Ah, you have some boot polish on your lip. Just off to the side.

Keep wanking. SURELY one of these days angry civilians with guns will stop government oppression (as opposed to the historical norm of enthusiastically joining in it).

Just like how SURELY one of these days a random unprepared civilian with a gun will actually stop a mass shooting.

Mass shootings have been stopped by an armed bystander before.

But all the authoritarian regimes in the last couple of centuries have had one identical practice to begin with. Disarm the population for "safety."

Don't be surprised when the bootheel you're licking now smashes you in the face later.

You are delusional if you think that a few morbidly obese white men with guns can do anything against a dictatorship takeover.


You're delusional if you think all or even most gun owners are "morbidly obese white men."

Your mental image is about as accurate and representative as Looty.
 
1 day ago  

GrizzlyPouch: erik-k: pedrop357: Really too bad Hong Kong residents are disarmed.

Not once since the invention of automatic weapons has this gun-wanker fantasy ever happened in real life. Only once before then did something remotely resembling it happen, and without the clandestine support of a major Continental power (and the incredible handicap to the British of being six weeks' sail from supplies and reinforcements) the Revolution would've likely been crushed by 1778.

But surely THIS time the civilian pea shooters would've made the difference. M-hmm *wanking motion*

It's preventative.  In Hong Kong you can pass a law stripping people's freedom.  They whine abt it, maybe attack some authorities with sticks, but there will be minimal casualties.

Try it in Texas, and there's going to be a ton of blood shed on both sides.  Does the government have the stomach to continue killing its own to enforce its law?

What happens When other armed citizens see the people of Texas being killed en masse? Etc.

Get it?


We saw what the gun humpers do when police start killing people with impunity; they stood behind the cops and nodded their heads that the "right people" were on the other side of the boot. Texans are as brave as they are smart.
 
1 day ago  

UltimaCS: GrizzlyPouch: erik-k: pedrop357: Really too bad Hong Kong residents are disarmed.

Not once since the invention of automatic weapons has this gun-wanker fantasy ever happened in real life. Only once before then did something remotely resembling it happen, and without the clandestine support of a major Continental power (and the incredible handicap to the British of being six weeks' sail from supplies and reinforcements) the Revolution would've likely been crushed by 1778.

But surely THIS time the civilian pea shooters would've made the difference. M-hmm *wanking motion*

It's preventative.  In Hong Kong you can pass a law stripping people's freedom.  They whine abt it, maybe attack some authorities with sticks, but there will be minimal casualties.

Try it in Texas, and there's going to be a ton of blood shed on both sides.  Does the government have the stomach to continue killing its own to enforce its law?

What happens When other armed citizens see the people of Texas being killed en masse? Etc.

Get it?

We saw what the gun humpers do when police start killing people with impunity;they stood behind the cops and nodded their heads that the "right people" were on the other side of the boot. Texans are as brave as they are smart.



I like your discussion about the imaginary response to something that hasn't happened.
 
1 day ago  

Marcus Aurelius: way south: their first act will be to normalize trade with China

Normalizing trade with EVERYONE will be rather high on the priority list of the next adult that's put in charge of the White House.

Don't you think?


Why would you want to normalize trade with the modern-day equivalent of Nazi Germany?
 
1 day ago  

pedrop357: UltimaCS: GrizzlyPouch: erik-k: pedrop357: Really too bad Hong Kong residents are disarmed.

Not once since the invention of automatic weapons has this gun-wanker fantasy ever happened in real life. Only once before then did something remotely resembling it happen, and without the clandestine support of a major Continental power (and the incredible handicap to the British of being six weeks' sail from supplies and reinforcements) the Revolution would've likely been crushed by 1778.

But surely THIS time the civilian pea shooters would've made the difference. M-hmm *wanking motion*

It's preventative.  In Hong Kong you can pass a law stripping people's freedom.  They whine abt it, maybe attack some authorities with sticks, but there will be minimal casualties.

Try it in Texas, and there's going to be a ton of blood shed on both sides.  Does the government have the stomach to continue killing its own to enforce its law?

What happens When other armed citizens see the people of Texas being killed en masse? Etc.

Get it?

We saw what the gun humpers do when police start killing people with impunity;they stood behind the cops and nodded their heads that the "right people" were on the other side of the boot. Texans are as brave as they are smart.


I like your discussion about the imaginary response to something that hasn't happened.


You've gotta explain more about what brand of crazy you are before I can understand what you think is imaginary. "George Floyd's death was a deep fake" or "cops only kill people when they really, really have to"?
 
1 day ago  

UltimaCS: pedrop357: UltimaCS: GrizzlyPouch: erik-k: pedrop357: Really too bad Hong Kong residents are disarmed.

Not once since the invention of automatic weapons has this gun-wanker fantasy ever happened in real life. Only once before then did something remotely resembling it happen, and without the clandestine support of a major Continental power (and the incredible handicap to the British of being six weeks' sail from supplies and reinforcements) the Revolution would've likely been crushed by 1778.

But surely THIS time the civilian pea shooters would've made the difference. M-hmm *wanking motion*

It's preventative.  In Hong Kong you can pass a law stripping people's freedom.  They whine abt it, maybe attack some authorities with sticks, but there will be minimal casualties.

Try it in Texas, and there's going to be a ton of blood shed on both sides.  Does the government have the stomach to continue killing its own to enforce its law?

What happens When other armed citizens see the people of Texas being killed en masse? Etc.

Get it?

We saw what the gun humpers do when police start killing people with impunity;they stood behind the cops and nodded their heads that the "right people" were on the other side of the boot. Texans are as brave as they are smart.


I like your discussion about the imaginary response to something that hasn't happened.

You've gotta explain more about what brand of crazy you are before I can understand what you think is imaginary. "George Floyd's death was a deep fake" or "cops only kill people when they really, really have to"?


The police weren't killing people with impunity, and the "gunhumpers" did not stand behind them, literally or figuratively, in approval.
 
1 day ago  

GrizzlyPouch: What happens When other armed citizens see the people of Texas being killed en masse? Etc.


If you want to pick a state others might stick up for, don't go with Texas
 
1 day ago  

Mouser: Marcus Aurelius: way south: their first act will be to normalize trade with China

Normalizing trade with EVERYONE will be rather high on the priority list of the next adult that's put in charge of the White House.

Don't you think?

Why would you want to normalize trade with the modern-day equivalent of Nazi Germany?


Such rhetoric. Trump isn't quite that bad.
 
1 day ago  
The only way to control China's behavior and power is through trade, and Trump is too incompetent, too stupid, and too adoring of dictators to bother doing so.  In fact we have less economic influence over China now; yet another instance of Trump being a complete f*cking whirlwind of catastrophe.
 
1 day ago  

pedrop357: UltimaCS: pedrop357: UltimaCS: GrizzlyPouch: erik-k: pedrop357: Really too bad Hong Kong residents are disarmed.

Not once since the invention of automatic weapons has this gun-wanker fantasy ever happened in real life. Only once before then did something remotely resembling it happen, and without the clandestine support of a major Continental power (and the incredible handicap to the British of being six weeks' sail from supplies and reinforcements) the Revolution would've likely been crushed by 1778.

But surely THIS time the civilian pea shooters would've made the difference. M-hmm *wanking motion*

It's preventative.  In Hong Kong you can pass a law stripping people's freedom.  They whine abt it, maybe attack some authorities with sticks, but there will be minimal casualties.

Try it in Texas, and there's going to be a ton of blood shed on both sides.  Does the government have the stomach to continue killing its own to enforce its law?

What happens When other armed citizens see the people of Texas being killed en masse? Etc.

Get it?

We saw what the gun humpers do when police start killing people with impunity;they stood behind the cops and nodded their heads that the "right people" were on the other side of the boot. Texans are as brave as they are smart.


I like your discussion about the imaginary response to something that hasn't happened.

You've gotta explain more about what brand of crazy you are before I can understand what you think is imaginary. "George Floyd's death was a deep fake" or "cops only kill people when they really, really have to"?

The police weren't killing people with impunity, and the "gunhumpers" did not stand behind them, literally or figuratively, in approval.


The protests were about the fact that the overwhelming majority of police shootings are deemed justified and the "tricky" ones result in the officer being reassigned elsewhere. And here's a cosplaytriot that was literally standing with the cops, pretending to be a cop:
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1 day ago  

apocryphaandmyth: Bennie Crabtree: John Hopoate: Taiwan take note - you're next.

Here in NZ and around the world we sell land to Chinese interests instead of granting then long term leases, so stupid.

Some nations recognize Taiwan as its own sovereign country. Hong Kong was not. So Taiwan is in a more powerful position.

including such big hitters as Guatemala and Swaziland.  Yeah, Taiwan is next.


The Vatican is powerful enough.
 
1 day ago  

UltimaCS: The police weren't killing people with impunity, and the "gunhumpers" did not stand behind them, literally or figuratively, in approval.


I've literally spen much of my life (1988-present) dealing with cops in potentially riotous situations.  A few years ago, after a "Katie, Bar the door!" scenario, I was debriefing a child (under 30 y.o.) who'd just smelt teargas for the first time "in the wild".  His comment to me about these guys was basically was that he didn't know their politics, but if the SHRF, he was glad for the backup.
 
1 day ago  
When I was in HK in 1994, vendors were selling t-shirts that had a picture of a guy painting over the Union Jack with the Chinese (CCP) flag. How true that is/was.
 
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