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6 days ago  
"Chinese state-run Xinhua news agency previously reported the law would criminalize offenses such as secession, subversion against the central Chinese government, terrorism, and colluding with foreign forces."

We get to see watch China reconquer Hong Kong.

fark
 
6 days ago  
RIP right to assembly
RIP free press
RIP independent judiciary
RIP open communication/collaboration to those outside China

aka One Country Two Systems, what let Hong Kong be Hong Kong
 
6 days ago  
Your move, Boris.
 
6 days ago  
Time to bomb the Spratleys.
 
6 days ago  
Housing prices in Vancouver are about to go even more thru the roof
 
6 days ago  

whither_apophis: Housing prices in Vancouver are about to go even more thru the roof


In Vancouver. Since the protests started, the number of Hongkongers on Tinder (but browsing in Van) has been nuts. Especially for the past month or two
 
6 days ago  
Democratic governments of the world would take some kind of action, but can't risk making their paymasters nervous
 
6 days ago  

Naido: Democratic governments of the world would take some kind of action, but can't risk making their paymasters nervous


Dude, HK is part of China.  There is not a nation on Earth that is going to get involved in an internal political dispute of another nation unless there are petrochemicals or diamonds involved.  If DC were to be returned to Maryland, France is not going to land troops on the shores of the Potomac.  Anyone who didn't see this was going to happen at some point after 1997 was a damned fool.  Frankly, I am surprised it took this long.
 
6 days ago  

phalamir: Naido: Democratic governments of the world would take some kind of action, but can't risk making their paymasters nervous

Dude, HK is part of China.  There is not a nation on Earth that is going to get involved in an internal political dispute of another nation unless there are petrochemicals or diamonds involved.  If DC were to be returned to Maryland, France is not going to land troops on the shores of the Potomac.  Anyone who didn't see this was going to happen at some point after 1997 was a damned fool.  Frankly, I am surprised it took this long.


This is one situation, one place, that "colonialism" was right. If they had stayed a British colony, none of this would be happening. Too bad the lease was up :(
 
6 days ago  
"Chinese state-run Xinhua news agency previously reported the law would criminalize offenses such as secession, subversion against the central Chinese government, terrorism, and colluding with foreign forces."

And lollygagging.

/ Also I first read that as "cuddling."
// I might want to ease back on the gin.
 
6 days ago  
Well that's enough doomscrolling for one day, I guess.
 
6 days ago  
I hope we get something in the trade deal out of the blind eye we'll turn, but it'll probably just be a trump hotel somewhere.
 
6 days ago  

silvervial: phalamir: Naido: Democratic governments of the world would take some kind of action, but can't risk making their paymasters nervous

Dude, HK is part of China.  There is not a nation on Earth that is going to get involved in an internal political dispute of another nation unless there are petrochemicals or diamonds involved.  If DC were to be returned to Maryland, France is not going to land troops on the shores of the Potomac.  Anyone who didn't see this was going to happen at some point after 1997 was a damned fool.  Frankly, I am surprised it took this long.

This is one situation, one place, that "colonialism" was right. If they had stayed a British colony, none of this would be happening. Too bad the lease was up :(


Britain should have said "Sure, we'll return Hong Kong to the original owners. Let us know where we can find the Qing Dynasty."
 
6 days ago  
Huh Duh
 
6 days ago  
I doubt the citizens of Hong Kong are going to submit quietly. Will be very interesting watch these coming days.
 
6 days ago  
So, are they just New North Korea now or what?

Either way, if anyone there has the means time to pull out.  Looks like pretty soon only three types of people will live there, those giving orders, those following them to oppress people and the oppressed.

Hell, they're probably there already.
 
6 days ago  
Really too bad Hong Kong residents are disarmed.
 
6 days ago  

Sin'sHero: Time to bomb the Spratleys.


and the Paracels
 
6 days ago  

Underwater Bystander: I doubt the citizens of Hong Kong are going to submit quietly. Will be very interesting watch these coming days.


Unfortunately, China will get away with this for the same reason they probably won't put up much of a fight: covid.

There's a reason that the authoritarian dictatorship that is the CCP is doing this NOW - anyone that would've gotten in the way is now mired in fighting Covid and double digit unemployment and 10/20/30 percent crashes in GDP.
 
6 days ago  
Taiwan take note - you're next.

Here in NZ and around the world we sell land to Chinese interests instead of granting then long term leases, so stupid.
 
6 days ago  
Phooey.
 
6 days ago  

John Hopoate: Taiwan take note - you're next.

Here in NZ and around the world we sell land to Chinese interests instead of granting then long term leases, so stupid.


Some nations recognize Taiwan as its own sovereign country. Hong Kong was not. So Taiwan is in a more powerful position.
 
6 days ago  
Bet Macau is getting real nervous.
 
6 days ago  
Well, I'm glad I got to visit Hong Kong when I did. Definitely won't be going again now.
 
6 days ago  

Bennie Crabtree: John Hopoate: Taiwan take note - you're next.

Here in NZ and around the world we sell land to Chinese interests instead of granting then long term leases, so stupid.

Some nations recognize Taiwan as its own sovereign country. Hong Kong was not. So Taiwan is in a more powerful position.


including such big hitters as Guatemala and Swaziland.  Yeah, Taiwan is next.
 
6 days ago  
2020, the year that keeps on giving.

Anyone got a list of actors/singers/writers/sport teams they expected to get wiped out?  It would be fitting with the year...
 
6 days ago  
Now watch Trump react to the news by doing..........jack sh*t about it.
 
6 days ago  

GrogSmash: 2020, the year that keeps on giving.

Anyone got a list of actors/singers/writers/sport teams they expected to get wiped out?  It would be fitting with the year...


Yeah, this year sucks a fat cock so far.
 
6 days ago  
Guess it's time to rekindle the protests.
 
6 days ago  

pedrop357: Really too bad Hong Kong residents are disarmed.


Not once since the invention of automatic weapons has this gun-wanker fantasy ever happened in real life. Only once before then did something remotely resembling it happen, and without the clandestine support of a major Continental power (and the incredible handicap to the British of being six weeks' sail from supplies and reinforcements) the Revolution would've likely been crushed by 1778.

But surely THIS time the civilian pea shooters would've made the difference. M-hmm *wanking motion*
 
6 days ago  

silvervial: phalamir: Naido: Democratic governments of the world would take some kind of action, but can't risk making their paymasters nervous

Dude, HK is part of China.  There is not a nation on Earth that is going to get involved in an internal political dispute of another nation unless there are petrochemicals or diamonds involved.  If DC were to be returned to Maryland, France is not going to land troops on the shores of the Potomac.  Anyone who didn't see this was going to happen at some point after 1997 was a damned fool.  Frankly, I am surprised it took this long.

This is one situation, one place, that "colonialism" was right. If they had stayed a British colony, none of this would be happening. Too bad the lease was up :(


It is not like the Brits did not colonize all of China.
The things that propped Hong Kong up were Capitalism and genuine Democracy.
To see what China would look like with those things take a look at Taiwan.
No colonialism was needed there.
 
6 days ago  

erik-k: pedrop357: Really too bad Hong Kong residents are disarmed.

Not once since the invention of automatic weapons has this gun-wanker fantasy ever happened in real life. Only once before then did something remotely resembling it happen, and without the clandestine support of a major Continental power (and the incredible handicap to the British of being six weeks' sail from supplies and reinforcements) the Revolution would've likely been crushed by 1778.

But surely THIS time the civilian pea shooters would've made the difference. M-hmm *wanking motion*


Ah, you have some boot polish on your lip. Just off to the side.
 
6 days ago  

Natalie Portmanteau: Bet Macau is getting real nervous.


Nope. Macau has prospered incredibly under Chinese rule. Apples and oranges. Even the colonial occupation country was different.

/Although I am annoyed that they turned the islands into a peninsula.
 
6 days ago  
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6 days ago  

Boojum2k: erik-k: pedrop357: Really too bad Hong Kong residents are disarmed.

Not once since the invention of automatic weapons has this gun-wanker fantasy ever happened in real life. Only once before then did something remotely resembling it happen, and without the clandestine support of a major Continental power (and the incredible handicap to the British of being six weeks' sail from supplies and reinforcements) the Revolution would've likely been crushed by 1778.

But surely THIS time the civilian pea shooters would've made the difference. M-hmm *wanking motion*

Ah, you have some boot polish on your lip. Just off to the side.


Keep wanking. SURELY one of these days angry civilians with guns will stop government oppression (as opposed to the historical norm of enthusiastically joining in it).

Just like how SURELY one of these days a random unprepared civilian with a gun will actually stop a mass shooting.
 
6 days ago  
Any bets they'll move on Taiwan by the end of the year?
 
6 days ago  

erik-k: Underwater Bystander: I doubt the citizens of Hong Kong are going to submit quietly. Will be very interesting watch these coming days.

Unfortunately, China will get away with this for the same reason they probably won't put up much of a fight: covid.

There's a reason that the authoritarian dictatorship that is the CCP is doing this NOW - anyone that would've gotten in the way is now mired in fighting Covid and double digit unemployment and 10/20/30 percent crashes in GDP.


And here in lies the hidden reason covid was unleashed.
Always look under the blanket when stuff is too bizarre to fathom.
The snafu was it made it's way to the biggest dipcrap mentality peoples of our great US of A... non mask wearing orange man believing morans...I doubt the Chinese gov really meant to kill the world, they just wanted Hong Kong in their clutches and other countries were the collateral damage that happened.

/I hate this Earth
//Won't be sad when my days on this poop show of a planet end
///3 × 1 Billion sick of EVERYTHING
 
6 days ago  

erik-k: Boojum2k: erik-k: pedrop357: Really too bad Hong Kong residents are disarmed.

Not once since the invention of automatic weapons has this gun-wanker fantasy ever happened in real life. Only once before then did something remotely resembling it happen, and without the clandestine support of a major Continental power (and the incredible handicap to the British of being six weeks' sail from supplies and reinforcements) the Revolution would've likely been crushed by 1778.

But surely THIS time the civilian pea shooters would've made the difference. M-hmm *wanking motion*

Ah, you have some boot polish on your lip. Just off to the side.

Keep wanking. SURELY one of these days angry civilians with guns will stop government oppression (as opposed to the historical norm of enthusiastically joining in it).

Just like how SURELY one of these days a random unprepared civilian with a gun will actually stop a mass shooting.


Mass shootings have been stopped by an armed bystander before.

But all the authoritarian regimes in the last couple of centuries have had one identical practice to begin with. Disarm the population for "safety."

Don't be surprised when the bootheel you're licking now smashes you in the face later.
 
6 days ago  

Straight Outta Hate: silvervial: phalamir: Naido: Democratic governments of the world would take some kind of action, but can't risk making their paymasters nervous

Dude, HK is part of China.  There is not a nation on Earth that is going to get involved in an internal political dispute of another nation unless there are petrochemicals or diamonds involved.  If DC were to be returned to Maryland, France is not going to land troops on the shores of the Potomac.  Anyone who didn't see this was going to happen at some point after 1997 was a damned fool.  Frankly, I am surprised it took this long.

This is one situation, one place, that "colonialism" was right. If they had stayed a British colony, none of this would be happening. Too bad the lease was up :(

It is not like the Brits did not colonize all of China.
The things that propped Hong Kong up were Capitalism and genuine Democracy.
To see what China would look like with those things take a look at Taiwan.
No colonialism was needed there.


Are you for real dude? Taiwan was a Japanese colony for fifty years, and after that was a single-party military dictatorship with US financial and military support for another 40. Taiwan didn't become a democracy until 1996.

Taiwan's economic growth rate since 1990 is virtually identical to China's. The only difference is that Taiwan had a massive head start in terms of industrial capital and infrastructure, because Taiwan spent a century as a forward operating base for the Japanese and American colonial and neocolonial empires.

/The Brits did not "colonise all of China"
//They colonised Singapore and Hong Kong, and an archipelago of concessions in port cities and used them to exert economic dominance over China
///Money flowed out of China, into HK, and from HK into the Empire.
 
6 days ago  
Does this mean we will get the Panama Canal Zone back?
 
6 days ago  

Boojum2k: Ah, you have some boot polish on your lip. Just off to the side.


Boojum2k: Don't be surprised when the bootheel you're licking now smashes you in the face later.


You almost had me, but then you screwed up the metaphor.  Who polishes the heel?  What on earth would be the point of polishing a boot heel?  It's like you're not even thinking about what you're saying, you're just trying to say "boot" and "lick" as often as possible.
 
6 days ago  
:,-(

鄭秀文 - 薩拉熱窩的羅密歐與茱麗葉 Sammi Cheng - Romeo and Juliet of Sarajevo (1994) English Translation
Youtube J45-YUfcpyo


If you click play and then click the CC button you'll get English subtitles (if you need them).

One of the most popular Cantopop karaoke songs of all time.

/mmm Cheng Sau-man
//Cantopop for the win
///allegedly the Chinese government is leaning on Sammi Cheng and telling her to keep her mouth shut or else "something" might happen to her family
 
6 days ago  

Boojum2k: But all the authoritarian regimes in the last couple of centuries have had one identical practice to begin with. Disarm the population for "safety."


Well, except for all of those who rely on a heavily armed partisan paramilitary to enforce their rule, which are globally much more common than those who have disarmed the population.

And come to think of it, most of the countries that have disarmed their populations are wealthy, peaceful and democratic countries, many of which have higher quality of life rankings and better democratic health indicators than the US does.

Sorry, yeah, anyway, back to shaking your head at China for crushing Hong Kong protests with like a quarter of the fury American cops have unleashed on American citizens over the past month.
 
6 days ago  

apocryphaandmyth: Boojum2k: Ah, you have some boot polish on your lip. Just off to the side.

Boojum2k: Don't be surprised when the bootheel you're licking now smashes you in the face later.

You almost had me, but then you screwed up the metaphor.  Who polishes the heel?  What on earth would be the point of polishing a boot heel?  It's like you're not even thinking about what you're saying, you're just trying to say "boot" and "lick" as often as possible.


Libs say it to conservatives who defend police violence, so he's cargo-culting the phrase.
 
6 days ago  

phalamir: Dude, HK is part of China.

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And someday the entire planet will just be "part of China."
 
6 days ago  

NephilimNexus: phalamir: Dude, HK is part of China.

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And someday the entire planet will just be "part of China."


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"Watch out, I hear that guy over there might be expansionist"
 
6 days ago  

phalamir: Naido: Democratic governments of the world would take some kind of action, but can't risk making their paymasters nervous

Dude, HK is part of China.  There is not a nation on Earth that is going to get involved in an internal political dispute of another nation unless there are petrochemicals or diamonds involved.  If DC were to be returned to Maryland, France is not going to land troops on the shores of the Potomac.  Anyone who didn't see this was going to happen at some point after 1997 was a damned fool.  Frankly, I am surprised it took this long.


If you listen to some Hongkongers, they speak of one country, two systems and the basic law, as if that agreement didn't have a defined end date and purposely vague carve outs to allow Mainland China to interfere as the CCP saw fit. It's not surprising random farkers think this is akin to one country invading another neighboring one.

Frankly, the way HK has been acting to the extradition bill and the fears about revolution at the forefront of the CCP's concerns, Beijing is correct in taking advantage of the global situation and solving the issue now instead of letting the problem fester until 2047.

/Before anyone claims otherwise, I'm far from a Beijing supporter, the simple truth is the writing was on the wall once mainland China industrialized and HK's importance to the nations total gdp was drastically reduced
 
6 days ago  

pkjun: apocryphaandmyth: Boojum2k: Ah, you have some boot polish on your lip. Just off to the side.

Boojum2k: Don't be surprised when the bootheel you're licking now smashes you in the face later.

You almost had me, but then you screwed up the metaphor.  Who polishes the heel?  What on earth would be the point of polishing a boot heel?  It's like you're not even thinking about what you're saying, you're just trying to say "boot" and "lick" as often as possible.

Libs say it to conservatives who defend police violence, so he's cargo-culting the phrase.


I finally understand what women feel like when they get man-splained at.

Thank you!
 
6 days ago  
 
6 days ago  

silvervial: phalamir: Naido: Democratic governments of the world would take some kind of action, but can't risk making their paymasters nervous

Dude, HK is part of China.  There is not a nation on Earth that is going to get involved in an internal political dispute of another nation unless there are petrochemicals or diamonds involved.  If DC were to be returned to Maryland, France is not going to land troops on the shores of the Potomac.  Anyone who didn't see this was going to happen at some point after 1997 was a damned fool.  Frankly, I am surprised it took this long.

This is one situation, one place, that "colonialism" was right. If they had stayed a British colony, none of this would be happening. Too bad the lease was up :(


I always felt it very ironic that at the very beginning of the process, way before the 1997 handover, guess who first reminded the other party and the world that the lease was coming to an end?

Britain, ever the honourable party in the relationship, was the one who first brought up the fact the lease was running out.

I have often wondered what would have happened if Britain had just kept its' big mouth shut.
 
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