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(Vox)   What is the true cost of your Amazon purchase?   (vox.com) divider line
    More: Murica, Amazon.com, Amazon worker, safety precautions Amazon, older employee, Amazon spokesperson, Amazon Web Services, warehouse employees, Amazon fulfillment centers  
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1369 clicks; posted to Business » on 30 Jun 2020 at 8:03 AM (12 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2020-06-30 8:10:25 AM  
Nothing we actually care about, but if Vox writes about it I guess we have to pretend to give a rats ass about optional job choices and act like someone forced them to work there
 
2020-06-30 8:14:08 AM  
Not sure a strike or boycott of a company that delivers to people in lock down helps.....
 
2020-06-30 8:29:30 AM  

lifeslammer: Nothing we actually care about, but if Vox writes about it I guess we have to pretend to give a rats ass about optional job choices and act like someone forced them to work there


We can also pretend that low-skilled workers have a lot of options where they can work, and that a lack of unions doesn't hurt workers' rights.
 
2020-06-30 8:31:36 AM  
Treefiddy.
 
2020-06-30 8:32:13 AM  

lifeslammer: Nothing we actually care about, but if Vox writes about it I guess we have to pretend to give a rats ass about optional job choices and act like someone forced them to work there


I care about how businesses treat employees, yes I do. I also know some fulfillment center warehouses, shiat many or most, are located in places so desperate for jobs that those large companies operating them can wrestle shiatloads of financing and tax concessions out of local governments. I'll agree, no one is forced to work at these places, but many have no better option. I'm not able to ignore the plight of workers. I suspect you aren't able to either, really, but you sure got off an edgy quip.
 
2020-06-30 8:38:39 AM  
I'm torn. I usually disregard anything Vox writes, but this is negative towards Amazon who owns the Washington Post, and is mean to President Trump, but I don't really care about workers, unless they're coal miners.
 
2020-06-30 9:42:32 AM  
The first picture creeps me out the most, with the gigantic American flag. Unless you're a defense contractor, those big flags are pure wankery. "Oh look, we're all working for America."
 
2020-06-30 9:57:33 AM  
I mean, we can enjoy the benefits of a company like Amazon, and still be concerned that their approach to warehouse employees is similar to a World War I General's approach to trench warfare.
 
2020-06-30 10:02:03 AM  
However, I have a sneaking suspicion, that somewhere deep within AWS, there is a dedicated cluster running an algorithm calculating when the backlash and bad press of how they treat their warehouse employees eventually reaches a critical mass where it will impact profitability.  I suspect we are currently no where near that threshold.  So, amazon will continue to not give a fark.
 
2020-06-30 10:04:33 AM  
I don't shop there so I guess it's just the billions in subsidies i pay for
 
2020-06-30 10:34:07 AM  

v2micca: However, I have a sneaking suspicion, that somewhere deep within AWS, there is a dedicated cluster running an algorithm calculating when the backlash and bad press of how they treat their warehouse employees eventually reaches a critical mass where it will impact profitability.  I suspect we are currently no where near that threshold.  So, amazon will continue to not give a fark.


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2020-06-30 10:35:00 AM  
I'm not trying to support Amazon here, especially the anti-union stuff, but for the most part it seems like TFA's issues that they try to direct at Amazon are really with the state of the job market and the overall values of this country.

FTFA: "It's frightening, but you have to put on a smile and you go to work because you need the income... It affects your nerves, your mental state, your way of thinking - because you have to be cautious in everything you do now," Rosie said. "It's like I'm risking my life for a dollar. It's twisted."

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2020-06-30 10:42:45 AM  
Now I feel guilty for just ordering chapstick.
 
2020-06-30 10:43:21 AM  
Getting your stuff the non-Amazon way, you still have the same hazards. They don't receive the same attention because they're distributed across the entire country and don't lend themselves to vilifying and demonizing a heartless mega-corporation.
 
2020-06-30 10:53:37 AM  
"What really makes me mad is that Jeff Bezos is one of the richest men on the planet," said Billie Jo Ramey, a worker at the DTW1 fulfillment center in Romulus, Michigan, on a call with reporters in April. "He can afford to keep us safe."

Turns out, no, you can throw all the money you want to at something, viral pandemics don't care.  If you have actual concrete suggestions, great. Sounds like they've been implementing them at least as quickly as any company in the nation.

At the end of the day, Bezos is spending billions on the only thing that will absolutely reduce workplace viral issues.  Replacing all y'all with robots in a lights-out warehouse.
 
2020-06-30 4:40:15 PM  
Well, they are getting their wish.  I am doing all I can to make sure they don't have to go to work.  Ever again for Amazon.  Will they cheer us on when we stop buying from Amazon and they lose their jobs?

mybluemake: lifeslammer: Nothing we actually care about, but if Vox writes about it I guess we have to pretend to give a rats ass about optional job choices and act like someone forced them to work there

I care about how businesses treat employees, yes I do. I also know some fulfillment center warehouses, shiat many or most, are located in places so desperate for jobs that those large companies operating them can wrestle shiatloads of financing and tax concessions out of local governments. I'll agree, no one is forced to work at these places, but many have no better option. I'm not able to ignore the plight of workers. I suspect you aren't able to either, really, but you sure got off an edgy quip.


There are options.  There are always options.  People just don't want to get their hands dirty and burn the motherfarker to the ground.  They don't want the great bloodening.  They want what is easy.  They don't want fire and blood.  So they choose a slow death to the mega corps sucking their blood and sweat.
 
2020-06-30 7:09:53 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: Well, they are getting their wish.  I am doing all I can to make sure they don't have to go to work.  Ever again for Amazon.  Will they cheer us on when we stop buying from Amazon and they lose their jobs?mybluemake: lifeslammer: Nothing we actually care about, but if Vox writes about it I guess we have to pretend to give a rats ass about optional job choices and act like someone forced them to work there

I care about how businesses treat employees, yes I do. I also know some fulfillment center warehouses, shiat many or most, are located in places so desperate for jobs that those large companies operating them can wrestle shiatloads of financing and tax concessions out of local governments. I'll agree, no one is forced to work at these places, but many have no better option. I'm not able to ignore the plight of workers. I suspect you aren't able to either, really, but you sure got off an edgy quip.

There are options.  There are always options.  People just don't want to get their hands dirty and burn the motherfarker to the ground.  They don't want the great bloodening.  They want what is easy.  They don't want fire and blood.  So they choose a slow death to the mega corps sucking their blood and sweat.


No, I don't want blood. I want fair wages, corporate responsibility, a fair set of rules for labor, etc. I know what rights workers in this country have were paid for in blood in the past. I'd hoped that was behind us. I still hope so.
 
2020-06-30 11:23:46 PM  
Because of the way Amazon treats its people - from the fulfillment centers to the contract drivers - they're my LAST choice for buying things online.

I really wish companies would do away with that next-day or two-day delivery. Do you really need those bunny slippers by tomorrow? If so, why didn't you order them last week? Instead, several workers will be subjected to dehumanizing treatment, required to forego bathroom breaks to make their numbers, so you can get your bunny-slippers-tomorrow-fix.

I'd rather they'd treat people like people. I'd also rather Bezos pay people a living wage even if it means he can't get that diamond-encrusted space shuttle until next year.
 
2020-07-01 9:41:29 PM  

2chinz: Because of the way Amazon treats its people - from the fulfillment centers to the contract drivers - they're my LAST choice for buying things online.


This. My first options are ebay, Target, and Walmart in that order, and if they all fail, Amazon it is (although they are certainly losing money off of me as I am on a Prime trial and almost none of my orders in a long while has been over $10).

/I do admit I have made some non-urgent purchases using Prime, but if I wasn't on a trial, I wouldn't care if it came in 2 days or 5 days.
 
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