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2020-06-30 12:58:50 AM  
I wonder if The Wire actors ever get tired of that being the only thing they're remembered for.
 
2020-06-30 1:27:21 AM  
The Browns really need to hold out for Isiah Whitlock Jr., for obvious reasons.
 
2020-06-30 1:27:47 AM  
He was excellent as Bunk and I like his Jim Greer
 
2020-06-30 1:50:27 AM  
Write a show where Cleveland gets bashed on the head or grows a brain tumor or gets cursed by Haitian lesbians or whatever it takes for him to develop multiple personalities and/or delusions.  That way they can spend each episode of an entire season with a different black actor doing the voice work.  Cleveland thinks he's God, and Morgan Freeman does the voice.  Cleveland thinks he's living in the movie Diehard and he's voiced by Reginald VelJohnson.  Get Obama to voice an episode.  It's a funny setup and a novel way to transition to a new voice actor.
 
2020-06-30 2:00:32 AM  
This whole woke thing with the voice actors is just stupid.

You want four more years of a republican president? Keep this shiat up. This environment is further left and more arrogant than 2016.
 
2020-06-30 2:33:12 AM  
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2020-06-30 3:02:39 AM  

Stud Gerbil: The Browns really need to hold out for Isiah Whitlock Jr., for obvious reasons.


His voice certainly lends itself more to comedy than Pierce's. Sheeeeeit.
 
2020-06-30 3:07:04 AM  

Chinesenookiefactory: This whole woke thing with the voice actors is just stupid.

You want four more years of a republican president? Keep this shiat up. This environment is further left and more arrogant than 2016.


Never get tired of conservatives admitting they voted for Trump as a punishment to spite the country they live in.
 
2020-06-30 3:21:04 AM  
Well sheeee-it.
 
2020-06-30 3:37:38 AM  
It's voice acting. Unless the guy doing the voice is in blackface or something, what difference does it make if he's white, black or green ? they should focus on the actor's skill and talent, not his skin pigmentation which is a bit racist.
This "wokeness" bullshiat is getting crazier every day in several industries. In Comics it got to the point where you're not sure if it's a parody or something real. For example.
 
2020-06-30 3:50:46 AM  

TappingTheVein: It's voice acting. Unless the guy doing the voice is in blackface or something, what difference does it make if he's white, black or green ? they should focus on the actor's skill and talent, not his skin pigmentation which is a bit racist.
This "wokeness" bullshiat is getting crazier every day in several industries. In Comics it got to the point where you're not sure if it's a parody or something real. For example.


You poor man, how will you continue to go on. Here, lemme pretend to give a shiat about your plight.

.....
 
2020-06-30 4:00:53 AM  

Bslim: You poor man, how will you continue to go on. Here, lemme pretend to give a shiat about your plight.


Thanks for the morning laugh. Great way to start the day.
 
2020-06-30 4:06:30 AM  

TappingTheVein: It's voice acting. Unless the guy doing the voice is in blackface or something, what difference does it make if he's white, black or green ? they should focus on the actor's skill and talent, not his skin pigmentation which is a bit racist.
This "wokeness" bullshiat is getting crazier every day in several industries. In Comics it got to the point where you're not sure if it's a parody or something real. For example.


Assuming you're actually serious, the point is to allow people who aren't white to get work in the industry. There are many people who could do an excellent job voice acting, but rolls tend to go to the same (white) people again and again. There are also issues with insuring a character doesn't go too far into stereotypes, and having it voiced by a person of that race/ethnicity/orientation/whatever is helpful in preventing that.

Now, I doubt someone with a resume like Mr. Pierce's needs the money, and I'd actually prefer the roll went to someone who's still trying to come up, but I could certainly see him doing an excellent job.
 
2020-06-30 4:10:04 AM  
Um, fine.p, let him be the voice actor.

You all know their is a global pandemic and America is falling apart right?
 
2020-06-30 4:16:53 AM  

Quadlok: Assuming you're actually serious, the point is to allow people who aren't white to get work in the industry


Black voice actors can't get jobs because they are black ? I can see there are quite a few of them,
if that is the case, in today's society they can do something about it.
The point of finding a color match for a voiced character is a bit racist by itself, the focus should be the talent not the skin color.

Quadlok: There are also issues with insuring a character doesn't go too far into stereotypes, and having it voiced by a person of that race/ethnicity/orientation/whatever is helpful in preventing that.


A director who knows what he's doing and a script does the job quite well.
 
2020-06-30 4:24:38 AM  

TappingTheVein: Quadlok: Assuming you're actually serious, the point is to allow people who aren't white to get work in the industry

Black voice actors can't get jobs because they are black ? I can see there are quite a few of them,
if that is the case, in today's society they can do something about it.
The point of finding a color match for a voiced character is a bit racist by itself, the focus should be the talent not the skin color.

Quadlok: There are also issues with insuring a character doesn't go too far into stereotypes, and having it voiced by a person of that race/ethnicity/orientation/whatever is helpful in preventing that.

A director who knows what he's doing and a script does the job quite well.


Ok, so you weren't serious, good to know.
 
2020-06-30 4:31:15 AM  

Quadlok: Ok, so you weren't serious, good to know.


Hey, whatever works for you.
 
2020-06-30 4:56:59 AM  
Chinesenookiefactory:

User name and profile both check out as possible bigotry, the comment just cements it, and it's not good cement either
 
2020-06-30 5:18:16 AM  

TappingTheVein: The point of finding a color match for a voiced character is a bit racist by itself, the focus should be the talent not the skin color.


This same type of statement has been so over-used every time people try to fight against racism and sexism by employing more women or more minorities etc. claiming it's reverse-racism because "you should be picking people on talent not color/sex/race/.."

It's just a convenient excuse to keep picking the same white males as before.. "but they were the most talented"


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2020-06-30 5:19:11 AM  

Jack of All Games: I wonder if The Wire actors ever get tired of that being the only thing they're remembered for.


I was  on the same little league baseball team in 1981 as the guy who played Det. Dozerman on the wire. His dad was the coach.  Never saw him in anything else.
 
2020-06-30 5:39:09 AM  

TappingTheVein: It's voice acting. Unless the guy doing the voice is in blackface or something, what difference does it make if he's white, black or green ? they should focus on the actor's skill and talent, not his skin pigmentation which is a bit racist.
This "wokeness" bullshiat is getting crazier every day in several industries. In Comics it got to the point where you're not sure if it's a parody or something real. For example.


Where are all these green and purple people the I'm Not Racist But brigade seems to be so eager to give jobs to?
 
2020-06-30 5:47:56 AM  

pkjun: TappingTheVein: It's voice acting. Unless the guy doing the voice is in blackface or something, what difference does it make if he's white, black or green ? they should focus on the actor's skill and talent, not his skin pigmentation which is a bit racist.
This "wokeness" bullshiat is getting crazier every day in several industries. In Comics it got to the point where you're not sure if it's a parody or something real. For example.

Where are all these green and purple people the I'm Not Racist But brigade seems to be so eager to give jobs to?


The purple ones, at least, were all eaten by a one-eyed, one-horned flying thing.
 
2020-06-30 5:50:32 AM  
pkjun:

Purple bulldog cheeks
 
2020-06-30 5:54:26 AM  

stuartp9: It's just a convenient excuse to keep picking the same white males as before.. "but they were the most talented"


I didn't say white people are more talented nor is it an excuse, that's you projecting.
I said skin pigmentation should be irrelevant when selecting people for voice work.

pkjun: Where are all these green and purple people the I'm Not Racist But brigade seems to be so eager to give jobs to?



Maybe they at the place where you pulled this straw-man argument nonsense from.
 
2020-06-30 6:11:44 AM  

TappingTheVein: pkjun: Where are all these green and purple people the I'm Not Racist But brigade seems to be so eager to give jobs to?

Maybe they at the place where you pulled this straw-man argument nonsense from.


Hey man, you brought up green people. I haven't ever seen a green person. I didn't know there was a problem of discrimination against green people. Are there some resources on systemic injustices against green people I should be aware of?
 
2020-06-30 6:16:55 AM  

pkjun: Hey man, you brought up green people. I haven't ever seen a green person. I didn't know there was a problem of discrimination against green people. Are there some resources on systemic injustices against green people I should be aware of?


Try not to slip on all that straw and don't hit yourself with the projector while projecting.
Again: skin pigmentation should be irrelevant when selecting people for voice work. Unless the job is specific about the actor's look and it's a specific requirement, it should be irrelevant for any job.
 
2020-06-30 6:22:19 AM  

TappingTheVein: pkjun: Hey man, you brought up green people. I haven't ever seen a green person. I didn't know there was a problem of discrimination against green people. Are there some resources on systemic injustices against green people I should be aware of?

Try not to slip on all that straw and don't hit yourself with the projector while projecting.
Again: skin pigmentation should be irrelevant when selecting people for voice work. Unless the job is specific about the actor's look and it's a specific requirement, it should be irrelevant for any job.


I know I'm feeding a troll at this point, but direct question:

Do you believe systemic racism exists?
 
2020-06-30 6:32:51 AM  

Quadlok: Do you believe systemic racism exists?


Do you believe a fictional black animated character should only be voiced by a person with the same skin pigmentation ?
 
2020-06-30 6:41:56 AM  

Chinesenookiefactory: This whole woke thing with the voice actors is just stupid.

You want four more years of a republican president? Keep this shiat up. This environment is further left and more arrogant than 2016.


Yep. The noise makers are a small portion of the population.
 
2020-06-30 6:44:29 AM  

ReaverZ: Um, fine.p, let him be the voice actor.

You all know their is a global pandemic and America is falling apart right?


It's mostly in your head. You'll be fine.
 
2020-06-30 6:54:20 AM  

TappingTheVein: pkjun: Hey man, you brought up green people. I haven't ever seen a green person. I didn't know there was a problem of discrimination against green people. Are there some resources on systemic injustices against green people I should be aware of?

Try not to slip on all that straw and don't hit yourself with the projector while projecting.
Again: skin pigmentation should be irrelevant when selecting people for voice work. Unless the job is specific about the actor's look and it's a specific requirement, it should be irrelevant for any job.


It isn't a straw man or projection. (I don't think you know what either term means, and are just repeating things you've heard in other arguments.) You said that you thought white, black and green people should have equal access to work, and I thought that was odd, because I've never seen a green person and wasn't aware of any sort of systemic barriers to green people in the workforce. Could you please explain a little more about the problems green people face in the United States?
 
2020-06-30 7:01:18 AM  

pkjun: It isn't a straw man or projection


Since you are addressing something I didn't say, yes it is.

pkjun: I don't think you know what either term means


Then you are wrong about this as well.

pkjun: You said that you thought white, black and green people should have equal access to work


No, I was very specific about voice work and why it is absurd. Read my original post and the other 2 times I repeated this.

pkjun: I've never seen a green person and wasn't aware of any sort of systemic barriers to green people in the workforce.


You're "expanding" and projecting again.
I repeat: skin pigmentation should be irrelevant when selecting people for voice work.
 
2020-06-30 7:06:44 AM  

TappingTheVein: Quadlok: Do you believe systemic racism exists?

Do you believe a fictional black animated character should only be voiced by a person with the same skin pigmentation ?


I believe I asked the question first. If you feel uncomfortable answering, perhaps consider why.
 
2020-06-30 7:17:31 AM  

TappingTheVein: pkjun: It isn't a straw man or projection

Since you are addressing something I didn't say, yes it is.

pkjun: I don't think you know what either term means

Then you are wrong about this as well.

pkjun: You said that you thought white, black and green people should have equal access to work

No, I was very specific about voice work and why it is absurd. Read my original post and the other 2 times I repeated this.

pkjun: I've never seen a green person and wasn't aware of any sort of systemic barriers to green people in the workforce.

You're "expanding" and projecting again.
I repeat: skin pigmentation should be irrelevant when selecting people for voice work.


"Unless the guy doing the voice is in blackface or something, what difference does it make if he's white, black or green?"

I think if he were green it would make a very big difference, because I don't think any humans are green. Why are you refusing to address the question? What issues do green people face in the United States?
 
2020-06-30 7:27:01 AM  

Chinesenookiefactory: This whole woke thing with the voice actors is just stupid.

You want four more years of a republican president? Keep this shiat up. This environment is further left and more arrogant than 2016.


Such concern.

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2020-06-30 7:27:38 AM  

TappingTheVein: Quadlok: Do you believe systemic racism exists?

Do you believe a fictional black animated character should only be voiced by a person with the same skin pigmentation ?


If his blackness is only fictional....
You know black people exist.
 
2020-06-30 7:34:14 AM  

Quadlok: I believe I asked the question first. If you feel uncomfortable answering, perhaps consider why.


I didn't answer because it wasn't relevant to what I said as illustrated by my own question, if it wasn't obvious enough.
 
2020-06-30 7:35:45 AM  

pkjun: I think if he were green it would make a very big difference, because I don't think any humans are green. Why are you refusing to address the question? What issues do green people face in the United States?


Why are you not addressing what I actually said ? I only repeated it 4 times  so I understand why some people here are still struggling with it.
 
2020-06-30 7:36:14 AM  
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2020-06-30 7:37:18 AM  

moulderx1: If his blackness is only fictional....
You know black people exist.


Not relevant to my question or to what I said and repeated 4 times.
 
2020-06-30 7:40:33 AM  

TappingTheVein: pkjun: I think if he were green it would make a very big difference, because I don't think any humans are green. Why are you refusing to address the question? What issues do green people face in the United States?

Why are you not addressing what I actually said ? I only repeated it 4 times  so I understand why some people here are still struggling with it.


I don't get it, man. I've quoted the part I'm curious about twice now, I've asked the question repeatedly, and each time you dodge and change the subject. I just want to know why you thought green people were relevant to the discussion. I often hear people who are Not Racist But explaining that They Don't Care If You're Black, White, Green or Purple, and I am always confused because I have never had an opportunity to talk to a green or purple person, so I don't really understand what sorts of problems they face in America.

I thought maybe you could help me understand why the problems of green people are relevant here -- what sort of structural issues are preventing them from getting work, what sorts of unique barriers they face, what sorts of stereotyping they have to deal with, that kind of stuff. But if you don't know, that's okay, we're all learning.
 
2020-06-30 7:44:09 AM  

pkjun: I don't get it, man. I've quoted the part I'm curious about twice now, I've asked the question repeatedly, and each time you dodge and change the subject. I just want to know why you thought green people were relevant to the discussion


I understand some people are challenged, I take no offense. I'll just repeat it for a 5th time:
skin pigmentation should be irrelevant when selecting people for voice work.
 
2020-06-30 7:45:21 AM  

TappingTheVein: moulderx1: If his blackness is only fictional....
You know black people exist.

Not relevant to my question or to what I said and repeated 4 times.


You cut out your quote in my reply.
You said: "Do you believe a fictional black animated character should only be voiced by a person with the same skin pigmentation ?"

But since youll pick and choose relevanvce and quotes...
Have a groovy day.
 
2020-06-30 7:47:53 AM  
We could revert to all acting roles in Elizabethan England being performed by men.

Times marches backwards.
 
2020-06-30 7:52:05 AM  

moulderx1: But since youll pick and choose relevanvce and quotes...


I didn't pick and choose, I responded with a question actually illustrating exactly what I have been saying 5 times now and not what people think/project/hallucinate what I said. Apparently it wasn't obvious enough so I later clarified why I asked this. This also was apparently too subtle.
 
2020-06-30 7:53:43 AM  

TappingTheVein: Quadlok: I believe I asked the question first. If you feel uncomfortable answering, perhaps consider why.

I didn't answer because it wasn't relevant to what I said as illustrated by my own question, if it wasn't obvious enough.


If you don't think my question is relevant you're beyond dumb.
 
2020-06-30 7:57:28 AM  

Quadlok: If you don't think my question is relevant you're beyond dumb.


Maybe what I said was too simple for great intellects to comprehend, I only repeated it 5 times now.
Your question wasn't relevant to what I specifically said. You'll get over it.
 
2020-06-30 7:57:58 AM  
At least showrunners and producers of these shows have the good sense to announce the change and the obvious reasoning.

However; the remake of Rocky and Bullwinkle is getting a pushback from Moose and Squirell local 435.
 
2020-06-30 8:01:57 AM  

Aquapope: Cleveland thinks he's living in the movie Diehard and he's voiced by Reginald VelJohnson.


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Do you think he would remember working with Brian
 
2020-06-30 8:29:16 AM  
Csb:

I went to The Wire wrap up party in Baltimore at Eden's Lounge, but I didn't know it was the wrap up party ... I was a drunk at the time and that was my favorite bar.

Anyway, I'm talking to this guy and girl for hours, having a great time, but people kept coming up to him and asking a picture. I asked him why does everyone want your picture? He said, You don't watch TV, do you?

It was the dude that played Wendell. I ended up dating the aunt of one of the actors (maybe Wendell's, idk). The aunt was a jazz singer in DC (that's ANOTHER story), and she was amazed I didn't care about stardom. My friend married Corey (real name) who played some detective on the show.

/Still haven't watched the show
 
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