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(MSN)   Dr. Fauci bluntly explains why we can't have nice things in the United States   (msn.com) divider line
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2020-06-29 8:17:10 PM  
Fine. Congress sends President Biden a bill mandating vaccination nationwide with no exceptions not related to health.

/and funding to ensure enough vaccination clinics exist to make that happen
 
2020-06-29 10:06:03 PM  
I'm  seriously hoping the Government keeps the US - Can boarder closed.

Americans have proven they can not be adults and fight a deadly virus the good of Humanity.
 
2020-06-29 10:06:40 PM  
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!
 
2020-06-29 10:10:39 PM  

TotallyRealNotFake: I'm  seriously hoping the Government keeps the US - Can boarder closed.

Americans have proven they can not be adults and fight a deadly virus the good of Humanity.


You're gonna feel pretty dumb when the Martians invade and it turns out SARS-CoV-2 is their only weakness.
 
2020-06-29 10:12:21 PM  
Well, I don't care.

They can deal with COVID-19. We'll protect the ones who medically cannot as best as we can and pray for the rest of this farking idiots to die.
 
2020-06-29 10:12:28 PM  
We should cut funding for science education and use the savings to give tax cuts to the rich
 
2020-06-29 10:12:46 PM  

TotallyRealNotFake: I'm  seriously hoping the Government keeps the US - Can boarder closed.

Americans have proven they can not be adults and fight a deadly virus the good of Humanity.


Yup. Keep it closed till Trump is out and the plague rats are in prison/vaccinated
 
2020-06-29 10:14:14 PM  

themindiswatching: Fine. Congress sends President Biden a bill mandating vaccination nationwide with no exceptions not related to health.

/and funding to ensure enough vaccination clinics exist to make that happen


Better: Congress sends Biden a bill that gives health care to all Americans. He signs it.
 
2020-06-29 10:14:34 PM  

themindiswatching: Fine. Congress sends President Biden a bill mandating vaccination nationwide with no exceptions not related to health.

/and funding to ensure enough vaccination clinics exist to make that happen


Yeah, that's what we need. A bunch of derps afraid of the government offering  them a "shot" to ease the "dem hoax".

If you mandate it? You totally lose those morans.

/I wouldn't miss them over all
//but totally the wrong way to convince idiots you're on their side
///some people really are that dense
 
2020-06-29 10:16:34 PM  

iheartscotch: BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!


Skulls for the skull throne!
 
2020-06-29 10:16:34 PM  
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2020-06-29 10:17:30 PM  

Bowen: TotallyRealNotFake: I'm  seriously hoping the Government keeps the US - Can boarder closed.

Americans have proven they can not be adults and fight a deadly virus the good of Humanity.

You're gonna feel pretty dumb when the Martians invade and it turns out SARS-CoV-2 is their only weakness.


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2020-06-29 10:20:36 PM  

TotallyRealNotFake: I'm  seriously hoping the Government keeps the US - Can boarder closed.

Americans have proven they can not be adults and fight a deadly virus the good of Humanity.


It's currently closed through at least July 21, and I can't imagine it'll be opened up at that time.  Really, it's looking like it'll be closed until either the US gets things under control, or an effective vaccine is developed.  Probably the latter.
 
2020-06-29 10:23:10 PM  
The results of the survey at the bottom...

"Will you opt for the coronavirus vaccine when one is available?"
Yes 72%
No 14%
Not sure 13%
Other / No opinion 1%

28% did not say "yes" when asked if they would get vaccinated against a global pandemic that has killed nearly 130,000 Americans (probably far more than that).
 
2020-06-29 10:24:05 PM  
Ignorant savages
 
2020-06-29 10:25:46 PM  
Deaths per day are on a pretty steady decline.
 
2020-06-29 10:28:16 PM  

TotallyRealNotFake: I'm  seriously hoping the Government keeps the US - Can boarder closed.

Americans have proven they can not be adults and fight a deadly virus the good of Humanity.


everyone else beat it.
 
2020-06-29 10:29:27 PM  

wichitaleaf: Deaths per day are on a pretty steady decline.


And the positive cases are on a pretty steady increase.  Which means that the deaths per day will be increasing, too - in about 10-14 days.

Did you forget March and April?
 
2020-06-29 10:31:46 PM  
I need to just say it to get it out and find some  I'm scared of the vaccine I will get it but I am scared that something would harm me or go wrong and harm me.
 
2020-06-29 10:33:05 PM  

gregz18: wichitaleaf: Deaths per day are on a pretty steady decline.

And the positive cases are on a pretty steady increase.  Which means that the deaths per day will be increasing, too - in about 10-14 days.

Did you forget March and April?


The active cases are quickly increasing.  We had been sitting at around 1-1.1m and now it's quickly jumped to 1.4m.  Not good.
 
2020-06-29 10:34:55 PM  

alice_600: I need to just say it to get it out and find some  I'm scared of the vaccine I will get it but I am scared that something would harm me or go wrong and harm me.


Whatever the side effects for the few, they are almost certainly going to be better than getting C19.
 
2020-06-29 10:37:23 PM  

iheartscotch: BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!


ROMEROCOPTERS FOR THE GOD WINS!
 
2020-06-29 10:40:35 PM  
Looks like Americans aren't going to enjoy nice things anywhere else, either.
 
2020-06-29 10:40:41 PM  
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2020-06-29 10:41:35 PM  
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2020-06-29 10:46:44 PM  

Jgok: The results of the survey at the bottom...

"Will you opt for the coronavirus vaccine when one is available?"
Yes 72%
No 14%
Not sure 13%
Other / No opinion 1%

28% did not say "yes" when asked if they would get vaccinated against a global pandemic that has killed nearly 130,000 Americans (probably far more than that).


That's like asking someone if they would accept a job at Walmart.

I might. I might not. I need details. Cashier...I would probably decline. Senior level executive, of course.

Asking me if I would get a vaccine for X or not is equally meaningless. How effective is it, what are the side effects, and how common are those side effects?

The only sane answer right now is 'maybe' but most of us have been brainwashed to worker think vaccines are perfect, or vaccines are evil.

And before anyone calls me anti-vax... Please realize that even if you have gotten your recommended vaccinations, you still haven't gotten countless other vaccines that are available. You/your doctor doesn't bother with them because the risks outweigh the benefits.

Heck, last I heard the medical committee hasn't even decided how long it takes before you can get reinfected, or even if you can get reinfected.
 
2020-06-29 10:48:39 PM  

Literally Addicted: Looks like Americans aren't going to enjoy nice things anywhere else, either.


:(
I know.
 
2020-06-29 10:49:07 PM  

gregz18: wichitaleaf: Deaths per day are on a pretty steady decline.

And the positive cases are on a pretty steady increase.  Which means that the deaths per day will be increasing, too - in about 10-14 days.

Did you forget March and April?


The data I'm seeing shows the increase starting Jun 7th or so.... Will be interesting to see how that plays out.
 
2020-06-29 10:49:19 PM  

themindiswatching: Fine. Congress sends President Biden a bill mandating vaccination nationwide with no exceptions not related to health.

/and funding to ensure enough vaccination clinics exist to make that happen


I'd sell it to the public by telling them "We're gonna put a little mark on people when they get vaccinated. You won't be allowed in businesses, allowed in school, allowed to work, or allowed to buy anything unless you have this mark."

I bet that would convince the anti-vaxxers to cooperate.
 
2020-06-29 10:50:17 PM  

themindiswatching: Fine. Congress sends President Biden a bill mandating vaccination nationwide with no exceptions not related to health.

/and funding to ensure enough vaccination clinics exist to make that happen


And while we are at it, lets make the flu vaccine free for all and required unless there is a health reason. And then how about a free Shingles vaccine?  It is damn expensive.  More people would take it if it was not so farking expensive.
 
2020-06-29 10:54:48 PM  

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Center: Interesting pants on both sides. I should get a plant. Or a protest mask. When's second breakfast?

Where is logic and reason again? Greek tragedy in this motherfarker and biatches looking at the bastards who smoke and know things like, save us, Daddy, and where's farking Mommy again?!

This is 2020. Because the Internet. Good luck, losers! Patriot Act out front shoulda toldya. Fight Riot Elmo Philly. He's Always Sunny, anyhow! He knows his shiat's stink. Trust that Mojo.

Election year dontchaknow! Peeps is watching.
 
2020-06-29 11:02:30 PM  
A CNN poll last month found one-third of Americans said they would not try to get vaccinated against Covid, even if the vaccine is widely available and low cost.

I'm sure that an equivalent poll of Canadians would have a number higher than I'm comfortable with.

But damn, hopefully it'd be less than 1 in 3.

You know it might kill you, right?
 
2020-06-29 11:07:07 PM  

Bowen: TotallyRealNotFake: I'm  seriously hoping the Government keeps the US - Can boarder closed.

Americans have proven they can not be adults and fight a deadly virus the good of Humanity.

You're gonna feel pretty dumb when the Martians invade and it turns out SARS-CoV-2 is their only weakness.


Actually, the only weakness of the Martians is music by Slim Whitman.
 
2020-06-29 11:07:25 PM  
The other day a co worker tried to explain to me that Fauchi is a liberal shil. All I could do was shake my head. No sense in debating with the stupid.
 
2020-06-29 11:14:52 PM  
Fine. Then those who refuse to be vaccinated for non-medical reasons can be restricted to their homes and fired from their jobs. If they refuse to be socially responsible then we have to use other means to restrict their ability to spread disease.

90% would fold within a week.
 
2020-06-29 11:16:29 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: Jgok: The results of the survey at the bottom...

"Will you opt for the coronavirus vaccine when one is available?"
Yes 72%
No 14%
Not sure 13%
Other / No opinion 1%

28% did not say "yes" when asked if they would get vaccinated against a global pandemic that has killed nearly 130,000 Americans (probably far more than that).

That's like asking someone if they would accept a job at Walmart.

I might. I might not. I need details. Cashier...I would probably decline. Senior level executive, of course.

Asking me if I would get a vaccine for X or not is equally meaningless. How effective is it, what are the side effects, and how common are those side effects?

The only sane answer right now is 'maybe' but most of us have been brainwashed to worker think vaccines are perfect, or vaccines are evil.

And before anyone calls me anti-vax... Please realize that even if you have gotten your recommended vaccinations, you still haven't gotten countless other vaccines that are available. You/your doctor doesn't bother with them because the risks outweigh the benefits.

Heck, last I heard the medical committee hasn't even decided how long it takes before you can get reinfected, or even if you can get reinfected.


You know what? You get a Smart for that. I made the assumption of safe/effective, but who knows what we'll actually get.

That being said, I will still take what we get. C-19 will likely kill me if I get it, so some side effects are OK in my book.
 
2020-06-29 11:38:28 PM  

iheartscotch: BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!


Nurgle harrumphs disdainfully. Or maybe he's just breathing normally and always makes horrid sounds like that, it's hard to tell.
 
2020-06-30 12:00:03 AM  

Notabunny: We should cut funding for science education and use the savings to give tax cuts to the rich


You're going places, pal.
 
2020-06-30 12:24:29 AM  
This is only a problem if a vaccine for Covid-19 is developed.  Given our history with corona viruses thus far, I'll bet a different way.
 
2020-06-30 12:30:47 AM  

wichitaleaf: Deaths per day are on a pretty steady decline.


Yet cases per day are on a pretty steady increase. What do you think that does to the deaths per day two or three weeks from now?
 
2020-06-30 12:35:54 AM  
Unless the first round of vaccine is coming out of Europe, I may wait some months

if it's out of China or Russia I do not want it

I wouldn't buy one of their cars either

not even in the third year of their model run

not terribly Keen on an American version either

Euro or South Korea otherwise I'm probably waiting a beat or two
 
2020-06-30 12:42:59 AM  

Birnone: themindiswatching: Fine. Congress sends President Biden a bill mandating vaccination nationwide with no exceptions not related to health.

/and funding to ensure enough vaccination clinics exist to make that happen

I'd sell it to the public by telling them "We're gonna put a little mark on people when they get vaccinated. You won't be allowed in businesses, allowed in school, allowed to work, or allowed to buy anything unless you have this mark."

I bet that would convince the anti-vaxxers to cooperate.


A mark?  Are you serious?  Just inject a microchip along with the vaccine.  Put someone with tech experience, say Bill Gates, in charge of that.
 
2020-06-30 12:45:14 AM  
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2020-06-30 12:52:28 AM  

Bot v2.38beta: themindiswatching: Fine. Congress sends President Biden a bill mandating vaccination nationwide with no exceptions not related to health.

/and funding to ensure enough vaccination clinics exist to make that happen

Yeah, that's what we need. A bunch of derps afraid of the government offering  them a "shot" to ease the "dem hoax".

If you mandate it? You totally lose those morans.

/I wouldn't miss them over all
//but totally the wrong way to convince idiots you're on their side
///some people really are that dense


Honest to God, we're probably better off as a society now if we just untied the United States and somehow orchestrated a peaceful, Indian-Pakistani style migration that allowed people to relocate to designated liberal or conservative states before the break-up became official.  The stupid in this country is far too set in to be eradicated, and we're better off allowing the smart to separate themselves from the stupid.
 
2020-06-30 1:06:38 AM  

themindiswatching: Fine. Congress sends President Biden a bill mandating vaccination nationwide with no exceptions not related to health.

/and funding to ensure enough vaccination clinics exist to make that happen


Can I sign up to vaccinate people using a dart rifle from a helicopter? Because that would be bad ass. Right up until I died in a hail of gunfire about an hour into the job.
 
2020-06-30 1:53:32 AM  

gregz18: wichitaleaf: Deaths per day are on a pretty steady decline.

And the positive cases are on a pretty steady increase.  Which means that the deaths per day will be increasing, too - in about 10-14 days.

Did you forget March and April?


I don't think the death curve is apt to follow positive case curve like it did earlier. The age range where death is a common outcome is not rising in the hot spot sections of the country. In Florida's curves (see the NYTimes daily charts), cases have been rising since June 1, while deaths have been steady. Florida's newly infected are primarily in the 20-40 age range, so far, and they don't die anywhere near as commonly as the 60+ crowd. If the young people spread it to nursing homes a lot more, which is certainly possible, that's when deaths will suddenly skyrocket.

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2020-06-30 2:20:04 AM  

Jgok: The results of the survey at the bottom...

"Will you opt for the coronavirus vaccine when one is available?"
Yes 72%
No 14%
Not sure 13%
Other / No opinion 1%

28% did not say "yes" when asked if they would get vaccinated against a global pandemic that has killed nearly 130,000 Americans (probably far more than that).


Here's my issue. I have vaccinated for everything I need. I get my yearly flu shot. My kids are up to date. I don't want to be in the first round, and call me crazy but ant vaccine that comes from trump and his cronies is suspect to me.
 
2020-06-30 2:57:47 AM  
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Literally decided to act artfully for reasons of logic and morality alone. Still don't get how anyone who grew up in a MAD world questions why my Struggles could be relevant given the clearances I've been given without question by the most paranoid government that ever trusted me professionally to legally dole out any secrets with authorial intent and purpose. Like, who is nervous now and why? I Knew things professionally. Very astutely. For multiple reasons always. Immutably. And legally.

That tells people things about the world, American or not. Immutably. History is a moving target. Always. Cultures ain't. They do their thing. It ain't mine though. I know my masters. I sleep fine now, and I know where we are heading. Nothing else matters to me, personally, at least. I am a human artist making a stand. I'm pretty provocative when I choose to be for any reason.
 
2020-06-30 3:04:47 AM  

Jgok: The results of the survey at the bottom...

"Will you opt for the coronavirus vaccine when one is available?"
Yes 72%
No 14%
Not sure 13%
Other / No opinion 1%

28% did not say "yes" when asked if they would get vaccinated against a global pandemic that has killed nearly 130,000 Americans (probably far more than that).



In the long run being anti-vax is a self-correcting problem.

/Lets see how many people magically drop their "deeply held beliefs" when the schools refuse entry for non-vaccinated students -- especially now people have experienced the reality of "just homeschool the kids"
 
2020-06-30 3:10:46 AM  
Because a subculture of belligerent, entitled sociopaths is a feature not a bug.
 
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