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(The Hill)   The Trump campaign, the RNC, and 4 Pennsylvania Republican members of Congress have sued PA to stop mail-in voting. It's almost like PA is a battleground state and they know they can't win without suppressing the vote   (thehill.com) divider line
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4 days ago  
To be free and fair, elections must be transparent and verifiable.

Which is exactly what Republicans don't want to happen.
 
4 days ago  
Too late, Donny.
Oh, and when they hold you in prison prior to the execution of your sentence for war crimes, treason, and crimes against humanity, enjoy the few moments of freedom they give you when they pull you out to stand trial for tax fraud, mail fraud, and stonks manipulation, stripping you of any monetary credit you and your kin have left. They will body cavity search you coming and going.
 
4 days ago  

GrogSmash: Personally, I am looking forward to the EPIC level shiatstorm that follows the election, as the Lame-Duck does everything in his power to invalid the results in his favour.

And when that fails...  what he does as his final 'scorched earth' retribution.


I'm not. Perhaps it is a remnant of my family's own 'never forget, never forgive' mentality or maybe it is just because once in a while I read something other than Fark and the back of cereal boxes. But the Nero Decree was only prevented, in the end, because the horrified Speer knew what it would mean for Germany.

You think there is a Speer in the current White House, ready and willing to defy Hair Twitler? Our luck has been just spectacular so far ...
 
4 days ago  

common sense is an oxymoron: Benjimin_Dover: qorkfiend: way south: So this happened...

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2020​/06/26/widespread_fraud_in_new_jersey_​mail-in_election_515452.html

And was caught immediately

How can something be caught that the Dems have maintained doesn't exist? That would be a neat trick.

Examples like this, which you pants-wetting conservatives claim is proof of fraud, instead prove that vote-by-mail works at both detecting fraud attempts and identifying the perpetrators.

Cry harder.


You consider a 20% fraud rate acceptable?

What happens if you hold an election with such a questionable turnout, but it does not go the way you want and Trump wins.  Will you accept the outcome or rant about Russian/Chinese/alien collision for the next four years?
Will you condone a leftist shooting the place up in anger because they saw reports of a bunch of ballots getting dumped? Will you call for endless investigations and recounts?
I suspect it wouldn't go down well with the fark crowd.

We still have people crying foul over the last election when most polls had far fewer issues.
You're mad if you think this isn't going to end in disaster.
 
4 days ago  

dwrash: The mail in primary voting here in PA was the most farked up thing I have ever seen.. misprinted ballots all over the place..

My two neighbors, both Democrats who have lived here 20+ years and live in the same household, received ballots with different US and PA rep choices on it.


No corruption in Pennsylvania.
Land of bought and paid for congressmen, cops, union thugs, and idiotic mobsters, bent on keeping the gambling action running on college ball hard enough to vaporize a DA who would have shiat down every thing.
Nope. No corruption in PA.
 
4 days ago  

My Klezmer Metal Cover Band: GrogSmash: Personally, I am looking forward to the EPIC level shiatstorm that follows the election, as the Lame-Duck does everything in his power to invalid the results in his favour.

And when that fails...  what he does as his final 'scorched earth' retribution.

I'm not. Perhaps it is a remnant of my family's own 'never forget, never forgive' mentality or maybe it is just because once in a while I read something other than Fark and the back of cereal boxes. But the Nero Decree was only prevented, in the end, because the horrified Speer knew what it would mean for Germany.

You think there is a Speer in the current White House, ready and willing to defy Hair Twitler? Our luck has been just spectacular so far ...


That is your only hope unfortunately...  that you have enough people willing to defy illegal orders, knowing what the consequences will be.

But most of those have been purged already.
 
4 days ago  

way south: common sense is an oxymoron: Benjimin_Dover: qorkfiend: way south: So this happened...

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2020​/06/26/widespread_fraud_in_new_jersey_​mail-in_election_515452.html

And was caught immediately

How can something be caught that the Dems have maintained doesn't exist? That would be a neat trick.

Examples like this, which you pants-wetting conservatives claim is proof of fraud, instead prove that vote-by-mail works at both detecting fraud attempts and identifying the perpetrators.

Cry harder.

You consider a 20% fraud rate acceptable?

What happens if you hold an election with such a questionable turnout, but it does not go the way you want and Trump wins.  Will you accept the outcome or rant about Russian/Chinese/alien collision for the next four years?
Will you condone a leftist shooting the place up in anger because they saw reports of a bunch of ballots getting dumped? Will you call for endless investigations and recounts?
I suspect it wouldn't go down well with the fark crowd.

We still have people crying foul over the last election when most polls had far fewer issues.
You're mad if you think this isn't going to end in disaster.


The actual fraud rate was zero.  These bozos got caught because the vote-by-mail system worked.
 
4 days ago  

way south: You're mad if you think this isn't going to end in disaster.


Disasters like the people who have the most support get the most votes winning elections?
 
4 days ago  
Trump is going to get even more desperate and unhinged. It's going to be a grade A shiatshow like you have never seen.
 
4 days ago  
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4 days ago  

My Klezmer Metal Cover Band: GrogSmash: Personally, I am looking forward to the EPIC level shiatstorm that follows the election, as the Lame-Duck does everything in his power to invalid the results in his favour.

And when that fails...  what he does as his final 'scorched earth' retribution.

I'm not. Perhaps it is a remnant of my family's own 'never forget, never forgive' mentality or maybe it is just because once in a while I read something other than Fark and the back of cereal boxes. But the Nero Decree was only prevented, in the end, because the horrified Speer knew what it would mean for Germany.

You think there is a Speer in the current White House, ready and willing to defy Hair Twitler? Our luck has been just spectacular so far ...


And this was todays history lession.  I didn't realize Hilter had sgned such a decree, but it doesn't surprise me.

"If I can't have it, no oñe will."

Unfortunately, that rings true for another world leader..
 
4 days ago  

way south: You're mad if you think this isn't going to end in disaster.


I like the assumption that our current system isn't already a disaster.

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4 days ago  

jso2897: Herr Morgenstern: I wouldn't put it past them to attempt to halt the election, citing phoney voter fraud and coronavirus as their reasons. It will be... interesting to see how that goes over.

Trump has no intention of leaving this to chance.
I warned America that if Trump was elected, it would be the end of our country, and I was right.
It's already over - you gave it away in 2016. America is done.

Oh, well - she had Emails, and reminded me of my unloving mother, so I wasn't inspired. Cest la vie.


Eat my fark.  I believe in people to do the right thing.  Not for trump to do the right thing, but for the rest of us to do the right thing.  fark you and 'I told you so'.  farking pussy.
 
4 days ago  
I did absentee when I was in the military. I did absentee when I flew for airlines. I did absentee working for the federal government (traveled a lot). I've always just had jobs that meant I may not have been in town on election day. And at all of those jobs, my coworkers were conservative over liberal by about a 2:1 margin.

You're screwing everybody.
 
4 days ago  

GrogSmash: And this was todays history lession. I didn't realize Hilter had sgned such a decree, but it doesn't surprise me."If I can't have it, no oñe will."


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A must read.

The danger in reading it is that you might fall in love with Speer.

But, like the OSS guys who interrogated him said, "It's just a shame you weren't on our side".
 
4 days ago  
In 2016, Trump had to sweep FL, MI, PN, WI, MI... Hillary had to just win one of those states and she was in. He swept them. I remember monitoring the returns that night and she came in a bit light on the cities with little reporting from yet the rural counties. It was clear early in the evening that he won and she blew it big time.

It can happen again. Same challenge... Biden wins one and Trump falls.

Biden has a lock on a ton of delegate rich states. Trump sweeps the south.

Hillary barely gave any of those swing states attention because 'she was so far ahead in the national polls.'
 
4 days ago  
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4 days ago  

common sense is an oxymoron: The actual fraud rate was zero.  These bozos got caught because the vote-by-mail system worked.


The USCBP and Coast Guard catches all the drugs that cross the border. They are no foreign drugs in America. It's all domestic production. Every time they catch a shipment, that's proof the drug interdiction system works perfectly. None slip through. Amirite?
 
4 days ago  

common sense is an oxymoron: way south: common sense is an oxymoron: Benjimin_Dover: qorkfiend: way south: So this happened...

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2020​/06/26/widespread_fraud_in_new_jersey_​mail-in_election_515452.html

And was caught immediately

How can something be caught that the Dems have maintained doesn't exist? That would be a neat trick.

Examples like this, which you pants-wetting conservatives claim is proof of fraud, instead prove that vote-by-mail works at both detecting fraud attempts and identifying the perpetrators.

Cry harder.

You consider a 20% fraud rate acceptable?

What happens if you hold an election with such a questionable turnout, but it does not go the way you want and Trump wins.  Will you accept the outcome or rant about Russian/Chinese/alien collision for the next four years?
Will you condone a leftist shooting the place up in anger because they saw reports of a bunch of ballots getting dumped? Will you call for endless investigations and recounts?
I suspect it wouldn't go down well with the fark crowd.

We still have people crying foul over the last election when most polls had far fewer issues.
You're mad if you think this isn't going to end in disaster.

The actual fraud rate was zero.  These bozos got caught because the vote-by-mail system worked.


Well let's see how the voters feel about your zero fraud rate:

Reporting by NBC further uncovered citizens of Paterson who are listed as having voted, but who told the news outlet they never received a ballot and did not vote. One woman, Ramona Javier, after being shown the list of people on her block who allegedly voted, told the outlet she knew of eight family members and neighbors who were wrongly listed. "We did not receive vote-by-mail ballots and thus we did not vote," she said. "This is corruption. This is fraud."

Apparently the victims of fraud disagree that there was no fraud.
The test of the system isn't when you win, it's whether you still accept the results if you lose. If you lose and get a notice that your vote was discarded because of a mismatched signature, will you accept the outcome?Of course you won't. This becomes a new thing to biatch about.  A reason to contest the election and gum up the works, as happened....But you expect the other guy won't biatch, won't accuse you of fraud, won't cheat, and won't point to the same piles of discarded/missing/invalidated votes as proof they were short changed?That's short sighted to the point that it's bound to end in disaster. A contested election is the last thing anyone needs.
 
4 days ago  

way south: common sense is an oxymoron: way south: common sense is an oxymoron: Benjimin_Dover: qorkfiend: way south: So this happened...

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2020​/06/26/widespread_fraud_in_new_jersey_​mail-in_election_515452.html

And was caught immediately

How can something be caught that the Dems have maintained doesn't exist? That would be a neat trick.

Examples like this, which you pants-wetting conservatives claim is proof of fraud, instead prove that vote-by-mail works at both detecting fraud attempts and identifying the perpetrators.

Cry harder.

You consider a 20% fraud rate acceptable?

What happens if you hold an election with such a questionable turnout, but it does not go the way you want and Trump wins.  Will you accept the outcome or rant about Russian/Chinese/alien collision for the next four years?
Will you condone a leftist shooting the place up in anger because they saw reports of a bunch of ballots getting dumped? Will you call for endless investigations and recounts?
I suspect it wouldn't go down well with the fark crowd.

We still have people crying foul over the last election when most polls had far fewer issues.
You're mad if you think this isn't going to end in disaster.

The actual fraud rate was zero.  These bozos got caught because the vote-by-mail system worked.

Well let's see how the voters feel about your zero fraud rate:

Reporting by NBC further uncovered citizens of Paterson who are listed as having voted, but who told the news outlet they never received a ballot and did not vote. One woman, Ramona Javier, after being shown the list of people on her block who allegedly voted, told the outlet she knew of eight family members and neighbors who were wrongly listed. "We did not receive vote-by-mail ballots and thus we did not vote," she said. "This is corruption. This is fraud."

Apparently the victims of fraud disagree that there was no fraud.
The test of the system isn't when you win, it's whether you still accept the results if you lose. If you lose and get a notice that your vote was discarded because of a mismatched signature, will you accept the outcome?Of course you won't. This becomes a new thing to biatch about.  A reason to contest the election and gum up the works, as happened....But you expect the other guy won't biatch, won't accuse you of fraud, won't cheat, and won't point to the same piles of discarded/missing/invalidated votes as proof they were short changed?That's short sighted to the point that it's bound to end in disaster. A contested election is the last thing anyone needs.


It's cute you think this upcoming election won't be contested either way.
 
4 days ago  

common sense is an oxymoron: Benjimin_Dover: qorkfiend: way south: So this happened...

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2020​/06/26/widespread_fraud_in_new_jersey_​mail-in_election_515452.html

And was caught immediately

How can something be caught that the Dems have maintained doesn't exist? That would be a neat trick.

Examples like this, which you pants-wetting conservatives claim is proof of fraud, instead prove that vote-by-mail works at both detecting fraud attempts and identifying the perpetrators.

Cry harder.


So, the Dems were lying. Got it.
 
4 days ago  

way south: common sense is an oxymoron: way south: common sense is an oxymoron: Benjimin_Dover: qorkfiend: way south: So this happened...

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2020​/06/26/widespread_fraud_in_new_jersey_​mail-in_election_515452.html

And was caught immediately

How can something be caught that the Dems have maintained doesn't exist? That would be a neat trick.

Examples like this, which you pants-wetting conservatives claim is proof of fraud, instead prove that vote-by-mail works at both detecting fraud attempts and identifying the perpetrators.

Cry harder.

You consider a 20% fraud rate acceptable?

What happens if you hold an election with such a questionable turnout, but it does not go the way you want and Trump wins.  Will you accept the outcome or rant about Russian/Chinese/alien collision for the next four years?
Will you condone a leftist shooting the place up in anger because they saw reports of a bunch of ballots getting dumped? Will you call for endless investigations and recounts?
I suspect it wouldn't go down well with the fark crowd.

We still have people crying foul over the last election when most polls had far fewer issues.
You're mad if you think this isn't going to end in disaster.

The actual fraud rate was zero.  These bozos got caught because the vote-by-mail system worked.

Well let's see how the voters feel about your zero fraud rate:

Reporting by NBC further uncovered citizens of Paterson who are listed as having voted, but who told the news outlet they never received a ballot and did not vote. One woman, Ramona Javier, after being shown the list of people on her block who allegedly voted, told the outlet she knew of eight family members and neighbors who were wrongly listed. "We did not receive vote-by-mail ballots and thus we did not vote," she said. "This is corruption. This is fraud."

Apparently the victims of fraud disagree that there was no fraud.
The test of the system isn't when you win, it's whether you still accept the results if you lose. If you lose and get a notice that your vote was discarded because of a mismatched signature, will you accept the outcome?Of course you won't. This becomes a new thing to biatch about.  A reason to contest the election and gum up the works, as happened....But you expect the other guy won't biatch, won't accuse you of fraud, won't cheat, and won't point to the same piles of discarded/missing/invalidated votes as proof they were short changed?That's short sighted to the point that it's bound to end in disaster. A contested election is the last thing anyone needs.


Are you implying that Trump will not contest it if he loses?
 
4 days ago  
Absentee voting is not the same as voting by mail. You have to request an absentee ballot. With vote-by-mail every name on the registered voter list gets sent a ballot. If that list has not been updated (and the one in LA, for example, has not been culled in over 20 years), then there will be lots of ballots sent to the last address of people who have died or moved out of state. Collecting these ballots, filling them out with a straight-line Democrat ticket, and handing them in with no checking to see if they are valid is what "ballot harvesting" is all about.

/ It's almost like PA is a battleground state and they know they can't win without suppressing the vote fake votes
 
4 days ago  

qorkfiend: way south: So this happened...

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2020​/06/26/widespread_fraud_in_new_jersey_​mail-in_election_515452.html

And was caught immediately


This one was. Alternatively they could just load them all into a large cargo van and wander around "lost" for a few hours on election night. Worked for GW.
 
4 days ago  

common sense is an oxymoron: way south: common sense is an oxymoron: Benjimin_Dover: qorkfiend: way south: So this happened...

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2020​/06/26/widespread_fraud_in_new_jersey_​mail-in_election_515452.html

And was caught immediately

How can something be caught that the Dems have maintained doesn't exist? That would be a neat trick.

Examples like this, which you pants-wetting conservatives claim is proof of fraud, instead prove that vote-by-mail works at both detecting fraud attempts and identifying the perpetrators.

Cry harder.

You consider a 20% fraud rate acceptable?

What happens if you hold an election with such a questionable turnout, but it does not go the way you want and Trump wins.  Will you accept the outcome or rant about Russian/Chinese/alien collision for the next four years?
Will you condone a leftist shooting the place up in anger because they saw reports of a bunch of ballots getting dumped? Will you call for endless investigations and recounts?
I suspect it wouldn't go down well with the fark crowd.

We still have people crying foul over the last election when most polls had far fewer issues.
You're mad if you think this isn't going to end in disaster.

The actual fraud rate was zero.  These bozos got caught because the vote-by-mail system worked.


The fraud occured the moment the ballot was cast so it wasn't a zero rate.
 
4 days ago  

Not_Todd: Absentee voting is not the same as voting by mail. You have to request an absentee ballot. With vote-by-mail every name on the registered voter list gets sent a ballot. If that list has not been updated (and the one in LA, for example, has not been culled in over 20 years), then there will be lots of ballots sent to the last address of people who have died or moved out of state. Collecting these ballots, filling them out with a straight-line Democrat ticket, and handing them in with no checking to see if they are valid is what "ballot harvesting" is all about.

/ It's almost like PA is a battleground state and they know they can't win without suppressing the vote fake votes


Let's not forget that the only people caught doing anything like this were Republicans.
 
4 days ago  

Benjimin_Dover: common sense is an oxymoron: way south: common sense is an oxymoron: Benjimin_Dover: qorkfiend: way south: So this happened...

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2020​/06/26/widespread_fraud_in_new_jersey_​mail-in_election_515452.html

And was caught immediately

How can something be caught that the Dems have maintained doesn't exist? That would be a neat trick.

Examples like this, which you pants-wetting conservatives claim is proof of fraud, instead prove that vote-by-mail works at both detecting fraud attempts and identifying the perpetrators.

Cry harder.

You consider a 20% fraud rate acceptable?

What happens if you hold an election with such a questionable turnout, but it does not go the way you want and Trump wins.  Will you accept the outcome or rant about Russian/Chinese/alien collision for the next four years?
Will you condone a leftist shooting the place up in anger because they saw reports of a bunch of ballots getting dumped? Will you call for endless investigations and recounts?
I suspect it wouldn't go down well with the fark crowd.

We still have people crying foul over the last election when most polls had far fewer issues.
You're mad if you think this isn't going to end in disaster.

The actual fraud rate was zero.  These bozos got caught because the vote-by-mail system worked.

The fraud occured the moment the ballot was cast so it wasn't a zero rate.


Reaching, reaching, a little more...
 
4 days ago  

Fireproof: Are you implying that Trump won't contest if he loses?


I know you weren't asking me, but I don't think he will. Especially if it's not even close.

I think he wants out.
 
4 days ago  

common sense is an oxymoron: way south: common sense is an oxymoron: Benjimin_Dover: qorkfiend: way south: So this happened...

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2020​/06/26/widespread_fraud_in_new_jersey_​mail-in_election_515452.html

And was caught immediately

How can something be caught that the Dems have maintained doesn't exist? That would be a neat trick.

Examples like this, which you pants-wetting conservatives claim is proof of fraud, instead prove that vote-by-mail works at both detecting fraud attempts and identifying the perpetrators.

Cry harder.

You consider a 20% fraud rate acceptable?

What happens if you hold an election with such a questionable turnout, but it does not go the way you want and Trump wins.  Will you accept the outcome or rant about Russian/Chinese/alien collision for the next four years?
Will you condone a leftist shooting the place up in anger because they saw reports of a bunch of ballots getting dumped? Will you call for endless investigations and recounts?
I suspect it wouldn't go down well with the fark crowd.

We still have people crying foul over the last election when most polls had far fewer issues.
You're mad if you think this isn't going to end in disaster.

The actual fraud rate was zero.  These bozos got caught because the vote-by-mail system worked.


That's the thing though. If it's caught you say it didn't happen. If it's not caught you say it didn't happen...
 
4 days ago  

Alien Robot: common sense is an oxymoron: The actual fraud rate was zero.  These bozos got caught because the vote-by-mail system worked.

The USCBP and Coast Guard catches all the drugs that cross the border. They are no foreign drugs in America. It's all domestic production. Every time they catch a shipment, that's proof the drug interdiction system works perfectly. None slip through. Amirite?


Worst.  Analogy.  Ever.

Do you think you don't need to register in order to vote by mail?  Or that each ballot received isn't checked against that list of registered voters?

If sowing paranoia over a delusion is your go-to strategy at this point, it might be a long election night for the red team.
 
4 days ago  

sex_and_drugs_for_ian: GrogSmash: And this was todays history lession. I didn't realize Hilter had sgned such a decree, but it doesn't surprise me."If I can't have it, no oñe will."

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A must read.

The danger in reading it is that you might fall in love with Speer.

But, like the OSS guys who interrogated him said, "It's just a shame you weren't on our side".


That might qualify as one of the few non-fiction books I might read.
 
4 days ago  
I bet it happens because people game the system at every opportunity.
 
4 days ago  

common sense is an oxymoron: Alien Robot: common sense is an oxymoron: The actual fraud rate was zero.  These bozos got caught because the vote-by-mail system worked.

The USCBP and Coast Guard catches all the drugs that cross the border. They are no foreign drugs in America. It's all domestic production. Every time they catch a shipment, that's proof the drug interdiction system works perfectly. None slip through. Amirite?

Worst.  Analogy.  Ever.

Do you think you don't need to register in order to vote by mail?  Or that each ballot received isn't checked against that list of registered voters?

If sowing paranoia over a delusion is your go-to strategy at this point, it might be a long election night for the red team.


Are you naive, or disingenuous?
 
4 days ago  

Benjimin_Dover: common sense is an oxymoron: Benjimin_Dover: qorkfiend: way south: So this happened...

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2020​/06/26/widespread_fraud_in_new_jersey_​mail-in_election_515452.html

And was caught immediately

How can something be caught that the Dems have maintained doesn't exist? That would be a neat trick.

Examples like this, which you pants-wetting conservatives claim is proof of fraud, instead prove that vote-by-mail works at both detecting fraud attempts and identifying the perpetrators.

Cry harder.

So, the Dems were lying. Got it.


Lying about what?  Where are the fraudulent votes-by-mail that were actually counted in Paterson (or anywhere else) and threw the election?

Cry even harder.
 
4 days ago  

webron: RedVentrue: RFID the mail in ballots.

They don't want to make elections secure, they want to prevent people from voting.  These are the same people who are ignoring foreign interference in our elections.  They want to win, how doesn't matter.  They don't have to attract more votes, if they can prevent people from voting for democrats.


RFID removes the excuse they use to claim vulnerability.
 
4 days ago  

RedVentrue: webron: RedVentrue: RFID the mail in ballots.

They don't want to make elections secure, they want to prevent people from voting.  These are the same people who are ignoring foreign interference in our elections.  They want to win, how doesn't matter.  They don't have to attract more votes, if they can prevent people from voting for democrats.

RFID removes the excuse they use to claim vulnerability.


But but but... MARK OF THE BEAST!
 
4 days ago  

RedVentrue: common sense is an oxymoron: Alien Robot: common sense is an oxymoron: The actual fraud rate was zero.  These bozos got caught because the vote-by-mail system worked.

The USCBP and Coast Guard catches all the drugs that cross the border. They are no foreign drugs in America. It's all domestic production. Every time they catch a shipment, that's proof the drug interdiction system works perfectly. None slip through. Amirite?

Worst.  Analogy.  Ever.

Do you think you don't need to register in order to vote by mail?  Or that each ballot received isn't checked against that list of registered voters?

If sowing paranoia over a delusion is your go-to strategy at this point, it might be a long election night for the red team.

Are you naive, or disingenuous?


I have yet to see any evidence of successful vote-by-mail fraud.  What I have seen is a lot of delusion-based paranoia over allowing as many registered voters to cast ballots as possible.
 
4 days ago  

Benjimin_Dover: common sense is an oxymoron: way south: common sense is an oxymoron: Benjimin_Dover: qorkfiend: way south: So this happened...

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2020​/06/26/widespread_fraud_in_new_jersey_​mail-in_election_515452.html

And was caught immediately

How can something be caught that the Dems have maintained doesn't exist? That would be a neat trick.

Examples like this, which you pants-wetting conservatives claim is proof of fraud, instead prove that vote-by-mail works at both detecting fraud attempts and identifying the perpetrators.

Cry harder.

You consider a 20% fraud rate acceptable?

What happens if you hold an election with such a questionable turnout, but it does not go the way you want and Trump wins.  Will you accept the outcome or rant about Russian/Chinese/alien collision for the next four years?
Will you condone a leftist shooting the place up in anger because they saw reports of a bunch of ballots getting dumped? Will you call for endless investigations and recounts?
I suspect it wouldn't go down well with the fark crowd.

We still have people crying foul over the last election when most polls had far fewer issues.
You're mad if you think this isn't going to end in disaster.

The actual fraud rate was zero.  These bozos got caught because the vote-by-mail system worked.

The fraud occured the moment the ballot was cast so it wasn't a zero rate.


Every time I read your name I think of this:

Degenerate
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Don't get me wrong, it's a good thing.
 
4 days ago  

Gordon Bennett: Estonia has had verified online voting since 2005. Get your shiat together, America.


IIRC they also have completely digitized medical records so all your doctors have instant access to your history, records, and meds list without having to fill out 8 pages of tiny print forms every damn time you have an appt.

/ I actually got pissed and made a scene once talking my grandfather in to a eye care specialist for his macular degeneration and the forms were in tiny print and smudged like a crappy mimeograph. They treated me like I was nuts for expecting the forms to be readable and easy to fill out at a specialist dealing with elderly patients with freaking eye problems.
// End of rant
/// For now
 
4 days ago  

Benjimin_Dover: common sense is an oxymoron: way south: common sense is an oxymoron: Benjimin_Dover: qorkfiend: way south: So this happened...

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2020​/06/26/widespread_fraud_in_new_jersey_​mail-in_election_515452.html

And was caught immediately

How can something be caught that the Dems have maintained doesn't exist? That would be a neat trick.

Examples like this, which you pants-wetting conservatives claim is proof of fraud, instead prove that vote-by-mail works at both detecting fraud attempts and identifying the perpetrators.

Cry harder.

You consider a 20% fraud rate acceptable?

What happens if you hold an election with such a questionable turnout, but it does not go the way you want and Trump wins.  Will you accept the outcome or rant about Russian/Chinese/alien collision for the next four years?
Will you condone a leftist shooting the place up in anger because they saw reports of a bunch of ballots getting dumped? Will you call for endless investigations and recounts?
I suspect it wouldn't go down well with the fark crowd.

We still have people crying foul over the last election when most polls had far fewer issues.
You're mad if you think this isn't going to end in disaster.

The actual fraud rate was zero.  These bozos got caught because the vote-by-mail system worked.

The attempted fraud occured the moment the ballot was cast so it wasn't a zero rate.


FTFY.

Quick question:  How much money is lost in attempted bank robberies?
 
4 days ago  

cyberspacedout: Marcus Aurelius: If voting by mail is good enough for Trump's press secretary, it's good enough for me.

His press secretary is female.


Well that changes everything, mail in voting is terrible.  Women shouldn't have the right to vote!
 
4 days ago  
i like the mail in vote,
now my parents, siblings and kids will all be voting for Trump,
i pick up their mail.
thanks dems.....
 
4 days ago  

GrogSmash: sex_and_drugs_for_ian: GrogSmash: And this was todays history lession. I didn't realize Hilter had sgned such a decree, but it doesn't surprise me."If I can't have it, no oñe will."

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A must read.

The danger in reading it is that you might fall in love with Speer.

But, like the OSS guys who interrogated him said, "It's just a shame you weren't on our side".

That might qualify as one of the few non-fiction books I might read.


His prison diaries are a good read too, and similarly revealing about the Third Reich's power-structure.

Gitta Sereny's book on him pretty much pops the balloon on the love fest that the West had with Speer - basically getting him to admit at the end of her numerous interviews to what he refused to confess to back in the day (knowingly using slave labor), and reminding readers that this "nice man" was also an evil man.

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4 days ago  
Kentucky still hasn't finished their counting for the election held a week ago.
 
4 days ago  

WTP 2: i like the mail in vote,
now my parents, siblings and kids will all be voting for Trump,
i pick up their mail.
thanks dems.....


See why we say "Every accusation, a confession." ?
 
4 days ago  

jmr61: LYING SCUM.

trump, his family and everyone who supports him are lying scum.


No, they aren't.  Just deluded or have fallen prey to other cognitive faults.  Although, anyone who thinks Biden will be anything other than a placeholder and care-taker are probably going to be disappointed also. 

I was just texting a cousin of mine tonight.  She absolutely believes that Trump will get four more years and that eventually, we'll all come around to see how absolutely wonderful he was.  I really don't get it. She's not stupid.  But then again, she does believe that Soros is paying for all the BLM protests and that Coronavirus was cooked up in a lab in China. 

It would be one thing if there were any real debate going on about these things, but they're just conspiracy theories without any proof.  At best just some loudmouth on TV or Twitter or some other medium yelling about it and making insinuations.
 
4 days ago  

way south: So this happened...

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2020​/06/26/widespread_fraud_in_new_jersey_​mail-in_election_515452.html


Republicans say "voter fraud" every time they lose an election.
Truth is, it's wealthy retirees (Republicans) who register to vote in 2 states.
And it's Republican operatives in North Carolina that perpetrated voter fraud.
//every accusation is an admission of guilt.
 
4 days ago  

common sense is an oxymoron: RedVentrue: common sense is an oxymoron: Alien Robot: common sense is an oxymoron: The actual fraud rate was zero.  These bozos got caught because the vote-by-mail system worked.

The USCBP and Coast Guard catches all the drugs that cross the border. They are no foreign drugs in America. It's all domestic production. Every time they catch a shipment, that's proof the drug interdiction system works perfectly. None slip through. Amirite?

Worst.  Analogy.  Ever.

Do you think you don't need to register in order to vote by mail?  Or that each ballot received isn't checked against that list of registered voters?

If sowing paranoia over a delusion is your go-to strategy at this point, it might be a long election night for the red team.

Are you naive, or disingenuous?

I have yet to see any evidence of successful vote-by-mail fraud.  What I have seen is a lot of delusion-based paranoia over allowing as many registered voters to cast ballots as possible.


If it's successful you won't see it by definition. I guess I have more faith in humanity to be dirty lying shiatbags.
 
4 days ago  

WTP 2: i like the mail in vote,
now my parents, siblings and kids will all be voting for Trump,
i pick up their mail.
thanks dems.....


Yet another deluded conservative who doesn't understand how vote-by-mail works.  Enjoy your federal prison sentence for attempted voter fraud.
 
4 days ago  

RedVentrue: common sense is an oxymoron: RedVentrue: common sense is an oxymoron: Alien Robot: common sense is an oxymoron: The actual fraud rate was zero.  These bozos got caught because the vote-by-mail system worked.

The USCBP and Coast Guard catches all the drugs that cross the border. They are no foreign drugs in America. It's all domestic production. Every time they catch a shipment, that's proof the drug interdiction system works perfectly. None slip through. Amirite?

Worst.  Analogy.  Ever.

Do you think you don't need to register in order to vote by mail?  Or that each ballot received isn't checked against that list of registered voters?

If sowing paranoia over a delusion is your go-to strategy at this point, it might be a long election night for the red team.

Are you naive, or disingenuous?

I have yet to see any evidence of successful vote-by-mail fraud.  What I have seen is a lot of delusion-based paranoia over allowing as many registered voters to cast ballots as possible.

If it's successful you won't see it by definition. I guess I have more faith in humanity to be dirty lying shiatbags.


Conservatives have yet to explain how voting by mail is more susceptible to fraud than voting in person.
 
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