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6 days ago  

Steakzilla: Mrtraveler01: Wanted to get in here before the "Farkers with alternative opinions" start telling us that she has a point.

More like who gives a fark if she has a point.  Why did she get kicked outta school for this?  Lol


Dropped your name tag.

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6 days ago  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: [ktxs.com image 850x477]

Right-hand-side is the face she makes as she's complaining about how those people are allowed to use the N-word all they want but she can't.


What's up with her arm in the middle panel?
 
6 days ago  

Neondistraction: These idiots seem to think that people only care when it's a white cop that does the killing, but they'd be just as upset if it'd been a black cop that knelt on George Floyd's neck for nearly 9 minutes.  They just want the cops, regardless of color, to stop killing a disproportionate amount of black people.

Is it really that hard to understand, or is it just willful ignorance?


So why doesn't anybody seem to care that black people kill a disproportionate amount of black people?

Why is it "racist" if somebody points this out?
 
6 days ago  

Mrtraveler01: bigdanc: I have heard the fix yourself first (to be more like white culture is the implication)

I've heard that same fix. But they're never able to explain what "white culture" fully entails.


bad dancing and flavorless food?

Joking aside, they mean the protestant work ethic and personal responsibility.  How community is focused on is also different - it's basically just an undercover way to call black people lazy and selfish as far as i can tell.  There's this delusion that black communities are suffering because of the lack of black virtue and community empathy, but the opioid epidemic similarly shattering white communities along with increased incarceration and academic under performance among white males is showing us that white culture is no more immune to these societal  pressures than black culture.
 
6 days ago  

Mrtraveler01: iamskibibitz: [Fark user image image 335x297]

Being in a Brazzers video would have actually been more respectable than what she actually did.


Some of them look hilarious.

/Or so I've been told.
//Boy, are those awkward conversations.
///With Grandma.
 
6 days ago  

Mrtraveler01: Steakzilla: Mrtraveler01: Wanted to get in here before the "Farkers with alternative opinions" start telling us that she has a point.

More like who gives a fark if she has a point.  Why did she get kicked outta school for this?  Lol

Because she was stupid enough to wear a shirt with the university's name on it while making that video for starters...


That seems like a dumb reason to censor someone.  Maybe they should make you sign an agreement before selling the shirt.  That way only true believers get to exercise their first amendment rights while wearing the shirt.
 
6 days ago  

LowbrowDeluxe: Steakzilla: Mrtraveler01: Wanted to get in here before the "Farkers with alternative opinions" start telling us that she has a point.

More like who gives a fark if she has a point.  Why did she get kicked outta school for this?  Lol

Dropped your name tag.

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That was a super good retort.  You proved me wrong
 
Al! [TotalFark]
6 days ago  

Steakzilla: Mrtraveler01: Steakzilla: Mrtraveler01: Wanted to get in here before the "Farkers with alternative opinions" start telling us that she has a point.

More like who gives a fark if she has a point.  Why did she get kicked outta school for this?  Lol

Because she was stupid enough to wear a shirt with the university's name on it while making that video for starters...

That seems like a dumb reason to censor someone.  Maybe they should make you sign an agreement before selling the shirt.  That way only true believers get to exercise their first amendment rights while wearing the shirt.


It's a private university.  If she was expelled, I'm sure they have explicit rules that she violated.  If she left voluntarily, you have even less ground to stand on.
 
6 days ago  

Steakzilla: LowbrowDeluxe: Steakzilla: Mrtraveler01: Wanted to get in here before the "Farkers with alternative opinions" start telling us that she has a point.

More like who gives a fark if she has a point.  Why did she get kicked outta school for this?  Lol

Dropped your name tag.

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That was a super good retort.  You proved me wrong


You manage that all on your own, champ.  I was just making fun of you.
 
6 days ago  

Al!: Steakzilla: Mrtraveler01: Steakzilla: Mrtraveler01: Wanted to get in here before the "Farkers with alternative opinions" start telling us that she has a point.

More like who gives a fark if she has a point.  Why did she get kicked outta school for this?  Lol

Because she was stupid enough to wear a shirt with the university's name on it while making that video for starters...

That seems like a dumb reason to censor someone.  Maybe they should make you sign an agreement before selling the shirt.  That way only true believers get to exercise their first amendment rights while wearing the shirt.

It's a private university.  If she was expelled, I'm sure they have explicit rules that she violated.  If she left voluntarily, you have even less ground to stand on.


If she left voluntarily then that's on her.  Otherwise I don't think private institutions should be able to take away you first amendment rights outside of the institution... If you disagree with me that's fine.  I'm guessing you also supported the NFL over the whole kneeling thing right?
 
6 days ago  

Steakzilla: Mrtraveler01: Steakzilla: Mrtraveler01: Wanted to get in here before the "Farkers with alternative opinions" start telling us that she has a point.

More like who gives a fark if she has a point.  Why did she get kicked outta school for this?  Lol

Because she was stupid enough to wear a shirt with the university's name on it while making that video for starters...

That seems like a dumb reason to censor someone.  Maybe they should make you sign an agreement before selling the shirt.  That way only true believers get to exercise their first amendment rights while wearing the shirt.


Most schools have code of conduct that both students and employees are expected to follow.  Failure to do so results in discipline.

Embarassing the school, wearing school swag, in what can be viewed as a somewhat racist, or very poorly judged (at best) video online with social media would violate most of those.

If she didn't bother to read it, or assumed that it didn't apply to her...  too bad snowflake?  You aren't as special as you thought?
 
6 days ago  

UltimaCS: GrizzlyPouch: Black people:  Our problems don't get enough attention, ppl don't care about us

Anybody of any race:  how about the problem of black ppl committing violence on other blacks, let's address that

Black people:  racism!!!


You can pretend that ppl pointing out black on black violence is a problem is "racist" and then refuse to acknowledge it and guess what:   It'll never change

Or you could address the problem and do something about it (that's what anybody who actually cares about black people would do)

It's discussed ad nauseum outside of racist echo chambers. There's also the issue that most crimes are committed by family and close friends, which upsets the gun-loving types. Lastly, this subject tends to be brought up regularly by racists trying to deflect from someone who clearly said something racist.


Oh ok.  I guess I missed the national news stories and public protests about it.

You guys can deflect or deny all you want.   The simple fact is black people killing other black people is a huge problem, far worse than cops killing blacks.

Murder is far more frequent amongst blacks percentage wise than in any other race or than interracial homicides.

Any time somebody points this fact out, that person's statement should be promoted....not silenced.  (Even if they don't have good intentions with the statement)

Somebody has to get serious about blacks killing other blacks and call attention to it.
 
6 days ago  

LowbrowDeluxe: Steakzilla: LowbrowDeluxe: Steakzilla: Mrtraveler01: Wanted to get in here before the "Farkers with alternative opinions" start telling us that she has a point.

More like who gives a fark if she has a point.  Why did she get kicked outta school for this?  Lol

Dropped your name tag.

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That was a super good retort.  You proved me wrong

You manage that all on your own, champ.  I was just making fun of you.


That's cool man, I see that you don't have a real argument against me so you tried to be rude instead.  That's cool, super cool....
 
6 days ago  

GrizzlyPouch: Black people:  Our problems don't get enough attention, ppl don't care about us

Anybody of any race:  how about the problem of black ppl committing violence on other blacks, let's address that

Black people:  racism!!!


You can pretend that ppl pointing out black on black violence is a problem is "racist" and then refuse to acknowledge it and guess what:   It'll never change

Or you could address the problem and do something about it (that's what anybody who actually cares about black people would do)


65 years since the Civil Rights laws, and Blacks still have what percentage of decent jobs? Or can drive, or walk, or jog down the street without being hassled?

It *is* racism.

How about white-on-white violence with guns?

THAT'S MY FREEDUMBS!!!!!
 
6 days ago  

GrizzlyPouch: UltimaCS: GrizzlyPouch: Black people:  Our problems don't get enough attention, ppl don't care about us

Anybody of any race:  how about the problem of black ppl committing violence on other blacks, let's address that

Black people:  racism!!!


You can pretend that ppl pointing out black on black violence is a problem is "racist" and then refuse to acknowledge it and guess what:   It'll never change

Or you could address the problem and do something about it (that's what anybody who actually cares about black people would do)

It's discussed ad nauseum outside of racist echo chambers. There's also the issue that most crimes are committed by family and close friends, which upsets the gun-loving types. Lastly, this subject tends to be brought up regularly by racists trying to deflect from someone who clearly said something racist.

Oh ok.  I guess I missed the national news stories and public protests about it.

You guys can deflect or deny all you want.   The simple fact is black people killing other black people is a huge problem, far worse than cops killing blacks.

Murder is far more frequent amongst blacks percentage wise than in any other race or than interracial homicides.

Any time somebody points this fact out, that person's statement should be promoted....not silenced.  (Even if they don't have good intentions with the statement)

Somebody has to get serious about blacks killing other blacks and call attention to it.


Nope, never been discussed in the last 40 years, ad naseum.  Nor have the socio-economic factors, and what it would take to fix it.

But, that said, person A killing person B, usually in a close circle of friends/family/associates is a considerably different issue from a person in legal authority, weilding leathal weapons, killing unarmed civilians for the crime of being the wrong colour in the wrong place, even if a crime is involved.
 
6 days ago  

GrogSmash: GrizzlyPouch: UltimaCS: GrizzlyPouch: Black people:  Our problems don't get enough attention, ppl don't care about us

Anybody of any race:  how about the problem of black ppl committing violence on other blacks, let's address that

Black people:  racism!!!


You can pretend that ppl pointing out black on black violence is a problem is "racist" and then refuse to acknowledge it and guess what:   It'll never change

Or you could address the problem and do something about it (that's what anybody who actually cares about black people would do)

It's discussed ad nauseum outside of racist echo chambers. There's also the issue that most crimes are committed by family and close friends, which upsets the gun-loving types. Lastly, this subject tends to be brought up regularly by racists trying to deflect from someone who clearly said something racist.

Oh ok.  I guess I missed the national news stories and public protests about it.

You guys can deflect or deny all you want.   The simple fact is black people killing other black people is a huge problem, far worse than cops killing blacks.

Murder is far more frequent amongst blacks percentage wise than in any other race or than interracial homicides.

Any time somebody points this fact out, that person's statement should be promoted....not silenced.  (Even if they don't have good intentions with the statement)

Somebody has to get serious about blacks killing other blacks and call attention to it.

Nope, never been discussed in the last 40 years, ad naseum.  Nor have the socio-economic factors, and what it would take to fix it.

But, that said, person A killing person B, usually in a close circle of friends/family/associates is a considerably different issue from a person in legal authority, weilding leathal weapons, killing unarmed civilians for the crime of being the wrong colour in the wrong place, even if a crime is involved.


Solving poverty among blacks people might fix both....  naw, fark the police!
 
6 days ago  

GrizzlyPouch: UltimaCS: GrizzlyPouch: Black people:  Our problems don't get enough attention, ppl don't care about us

Anybody of any race:  how about the problem of black ppl committing violence on other blacks, let's address that

Black people:  racism!!!


You can pretend that ppl pointing out black on black violence is a problem is "racist" and then refuse to acknowledge it and guess what:   It'll never change

Or you could address the problem and do something about it (that's what anybody who actually cares about black people would do)

It's discussed ad nauseum outside of racist echo chambers. There's also the issue that most crimes are committed by family and close friends, which upsets the gun-loving types. Lastly, this subject tends to be brought up regularly by racists trying to deflect from someone who clearly said something racist.

Oh ok.  I guess I missed the national news stories and public protests about it.

You guys can deflect or deny all you want.   The simple fact is black people killing other black people is a huge problem, far worse than cops killing blacks.

Murder is far more frequent amongst blacks percentage wise than in any other race or than interracial homicides.

Any time somebody points this fact out, that person's statement should be promoted....not silenced.  (Even if they don't have good intentions with the statement)

Somebody has to get serious about blacks killing other blacks and call attention to it.


So let me guess, you're in favor of greater government spending on urban education and infrastructure, expanding Medicaid, perhaps a federal subsidy for home purchases in low income areas, raising the minimum wage, and all of the other things that could help reduce crime and poverty?
 
6 days ago  

Steakzilla: GrogSmash: GrizzlyPouch: UltimaCS: GrizzlyPouch: Black people:  Our problems don't get enough attention, ppl don't care about us

Anybody of any race:  how about the problem of black ppl committing violence on other blacks, let's address that

Black people:  racism!!!


You can pretend that ppl pointing out black on black violence is a problem is "racist" and then refuse to acknowledge it and guess what:   It'll never change

Or you could address the problem and do something about it (that's what anybody who actually cares about black people would do)

It's discussed ad nauseum outside of racist echo chambers. There's also the issue that most crimes are committed by family and close friends, which upsets the gun-loving types. Lastly, this subject tends to be brought up regularly by racists trying to deflect from someone who clearly said something racist.

Oh ok.  I guess I missed the national news stories and public protests about it.

You guys can deflect or deny all you want.   The simple fact is black people killing other black people is a huge problem, far worse than cops killing blacks.

Murder is far more frequent amongst blacks percentage wise than in any other race or than interracial homicides.

Any time somebody points this fact out, that person's statement should be promoted....not silenced.  (Even if they don't have good intentions with the statement)

Somebody has to get serious about blacks killing other blacks and call attention to it.

Nope, never been discussed in the last 40 years, ad naseum.  Nor have the socio-economic factors, and what it would take to fix it.

But, that said, person A killing person B, usually in a close circle of friends/family/associates is a considerably different issue from a person in legal authority, weilding leathal weapons, killing unarmed civilians for the crime of being the wrong colour in the wrong place, even if a crime is involved.

Solving poverty among blacks people might fix both....  naw, fark the police!


Apples.  Dragon-fruit.

That is the comparison you just made.

You know why big things don't get fixed?  Because lots of people talk big about fixing it all in one go, with no real solutions.  Big problems, in systems that you can't stop and rebuild from scratch, require iterative progress.  Otherwise known as 'start small, fix one thing'...  in this case, maybe stopping cops from killing unarmed civilions because they are the wrong colour.
 
6 days ago  
GrogSmash:

That doesn't mean it isn't just as important or just as outrage worthy.  And please don't pretend black on black violence generates the same amt of outrage as a cop shooting, it doesn't.
 
6 days ago  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: [ktxs.com image 850x477]

Right-hand-side is the face she makes as she's complaining about how those people are allowed to use the N-word all they want but she can't.


To say that it's okay for black people to say certain words but not okay for white people is racist.  Unbiased and non-racist people know this.  Either it's wrong for all or it's okay for all, but don't say you're not racist if you believe in this double standard.
 
6 days ago  

El_Dan: GrizzlyPouch: UltimaCS: GrizzlyPouch: Black people:  Our problems don't get enough attention, ppl don't care about us

Anybody of any race:  how about the problem of black ppl committing violence on other blacks, let's address that

Black people:  racism!!!


You can pretend that ppl pointing out black on black violence is a problem is "racist" and then refuse to acknowledge it and guess what:   It'll never change

Or you could address the problem and do something about it (that's what anybody who actually cares about black people would do)

It's discussed ad nauseum outside of racist echo chambers. There's also the issue that most crimes are committed by family and close friends, which upsets the gun-loving types. Lastly, this subject tends to be brought up regularly by racists trying to deflect from someone who clearly said something racist.

Oh ok.  I guess I missed the national news stories and public protests about it.

You guys can deflect or deny all you want.   The simple fact is black people killing other black people is a huge problem, far worse than cops killing blacks.

Murder is far more frequent amongst blacks percentage wise than in any other race or than interracial homicides.

Any time somebody points this fact out, that person's statement should be promoted....not silenced.  (Even if they don't have good intentions with the statement)

Somebody has to get serious about blacks killing other blacks and call attention to it.

So let me guess, you're in favor of greater government spending on urban education and infrastructure, expanding Medicaid, perhaps a federal subsidy for home purchases in low income areas, raising the minimum wage, and all of the other things that could help reduce crime and poverty?


That would be a start.

Unfortunately it doesn't cure one of the bigger issues.. hereditary racism.  Educating that out of people will take a long time.
 
6 days ago  

Steakzilla: Al!: Steakzilla: Mrtraveler01: Steakzilla: Mrtraveler01: Wanted to get in here before the "Farkers with alternative opinions" start telling us that she has a point.

More like who gives a fark if she has a point.  Why did she get kicked outta school for this?  Lol

Because she was stupid enough to wear a shirt with the university's name on it while making that video for starters...

That seems like a dumb reason to censor someone.  Maybe they should make you sign an agreement before selling the shirt.  That way only true believers get to exercise their first amendment rights while wearing the shirt.

It's a private university.  If she was expelled, I'm sure they have explicit rules that she violated.  If she left voluntarily, you have even less ground to stand on.

If she left voluntarily then that's on her.  Otherwise I don't think private institutions should be able to take away you first amendment rights outside of the institution... If you disagree with me that's fine.  I'm guessing you also supported the NFL over the whole kneeling thing right?


Nobody took her rights away. She's fully free to post on tiktok all she likes...just not while being affiliated with that school. Freedom of speech doesn't include freedom from consequences.
 
Al! [TotalFark]
6 days ago  

Steakzilla: Al!: Steakzilla: Mrtraveler01: Steakzilla: Mrtraveler01: Wanted to get in here before the "Farkers with alternative opinions" start telling us that she has a point.

More like who gives a fark if she has a point.  Why did she get kicked outta school for this?  Lol

Because she was stupid enough to wear a shirt with the university's name on it while making that video for starters...

That seems like a dumb reason to censor someone.  Maybe they should make you sign an agreement before selling the shirt.  That way only true believers get to exercise their first amendment rights while wearing the shirt.

It's a private university.  If she was expelled, I'm sure they have explicit rules that she violated.  If she left voluntarily, you have even less ground to stand on.

If she left voluntarily then that's on her.  Otherwise I don't think private institutions should be able to take away you first amendment rights outside of the institution... If you disagree with me that's fine.  I'm guessing you also supported the NFL over the whole kneeling thing right?


They didn't take away her 1st amendment rights. She can post that video again.  She can make a new video lambasting the university.  She can wear blackface and perform a 1 person play she wrote where the main character does nothing but take drugs and rape white women.  Just as she has a right to do those things, the university has a right to not allow her to enroll in their private classes.  The first amendment, since you clearly haven't read it in a while:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

I put the key part in bold, so you can see it more easily.  No one took away her rights; she exercised hers, and they exercised theirs.  You don't have a constitutional right to attend a private university, just as the university is not bound by the constitution to keep anyone who enrolls regardless of behavior.
 
6 days ago  

GrizzlyPouch: GrogSmash:

That doesn't mean it isn't just as important or just as outrage worthy.  And please don't pretend black on black violence generates the same amt of outrage as a cop shooting, it doesn't.


Part of the problem is that the police keep getting away with it just by virtue of being police. You can only "investigate yourself and find no wrongdoing" so many times.
 
6 days ago  
I'm convinced this one is just a troll.  This has been just an entire clownshoes cavalcade of every possible talking point from freeze peach to 'you have to tolerate intolerance or your a hippo-crate'.  I mean, I've thought that for a while, but it's being really by the numbers about it in this thread.
 
6 days ago  
When I hear that a female college student got kicked out of a religious university for making an inappropriate video, dull racism is not the content I anticipated.

Color me deeply disappointed.
 
6 days ago  

macadamnut: Why is she wearing clothes?


Do you really want to see her nekkid?
 
6 days ago  

GrizzlyPouch: GrogSmash:

That doesn't mean it isn't just as important or just as outrage worthy.  And please don't pretend black on black violence generates the same amt of outrage as a cop shooting, it doesn't.


Any you seem to be resorting to the argument 'You cant fix this if you dont fix that'.

If you bother to read anything I write, I never say one isn't important.

My argument is that *maybe* this is a place to start working on things?  It won't fix everything, but it would help.  Then we can work on the "Let's fix everything in one go, and make the world a utopia" plan.
 
6 days ago  

GrizzlyPouch: Oh ok.  I guess I missed the national news stories and public protests about it.


At least you're honest enough to admit your ignorance.
 
6 days ago  

Neondistraction: These idiots seem to think that people only care when it's a white cop that does the killing, but they'd be just as upset if it'd been a black cop that knelt on George Floyd's neck for nearly 9 minutes.  They just want the cops, regardless of color, to stop killing a disproportionate amount of black people.

Is it really that hard to understand, or is it just willful ignorance?


The moment it went from being about police brutality to being about race is when it doomed itself. I've said from the get-go that cops don't kill young black men because they are black but because they believe that they lack the class status to have their killers held accountable. Plenty of homeless white people get brutalized by cops of all colors for the same reason.

Source: Former white heroin addict who ran the streets of the ATL for years.
 
6 days ago  

Mrtraveler01: Wanted to get in here before the "Farkers with alternative opinions" start telling us that she has a point.


Actually, I'd like for her to explain. Because, I'm not sure what she was saying.
 
6 days ago  

Somacandra: Somehow I have a feeling that the white student who made the racist video has never paid attention to African-American media or any activism concerning street crime in majority black neighborhoods. Because there's historically been a lot of anti-crime and anti-violence activism, especially through local churches and mosques. And now gets to wonder why whitesplaining shiat she knows nothing about gets her in trouble.


Ever notice how the mainstream media doesn't cover any of that?

It's because in most of the newsrooms, they are probably reacting exactly how she depicted. They don't care. It doesn't get ratings.

Remember how people have noticed that a missing white woman gets a lot of attention, while a missing African-American barely gets mentioned?

Same news media.

The very same news media that is falling all over themselves to inflame passions.

It's farking rich how the media and entertainment industry is so supportive of BLM despite being in the best possible position to do things to help portray African-American communities in a positive light, to help save lives, and to make it so that images of African-American men on the news occur in segments other than ones that reinforce stereotypes.

The media and entertainment industries have made good money off of the suffering of the Black community.  Their response? Pulling a couple of episodes of sitcoms that might be considered offensive and try to shoehorn some non-white actors into plots that aren't written for them, about them, or by them.

Is the girl an idiot? Sure, but she's an idiot who made a video less than a minute long.  How many years worth of footage has the media industry produced in this decade alone that says the same thing, but in a far more dangerous manner?
 
6 days ago  

Al!: Steakzilla: Al!: Steakzilla: Mrtraveler01: Steakzilla: Mrtraveler01: Wanted to get in here before the "Farkers with alternative opinions" start telling us that she has a point.

More like who gives a fark if she has a point.  Why did she get kicked outta school for this?  Lol

Because she was stupid enough to wear a shirt with the university's name on it while making that video for starters...

That seems like a dumb reason to censor someone.  Maybe they should make you sign an agreement before selling the shirt.  That way only true believers get to exercise their first amendment rights while wearing the shirt.

It's a private university.  If she was expelled, I'm sure they have explicit rules that she violated.  If she left voluntarily, you have even less ground to stand on.

If she left voluntarily then that's on her.  Otherwise I don't think private institutions should be able to take away you first amendment rights outside of the institution... If you disagree with me that's fine.  I'm guessing you also supported the NFL over the whole kneeling thing right?

They didn't take away her 1st amendment rights. She can post that video again.  She can make a new video lambasting the university.  She can wear blackface and perform a 1 person play she wrote where the main character does nothing but take drugs and rape white women.  Just as she has a right to do those things, the university has a right to not allow her to enroll in their private classes.  The first amendment, since you clearly haven't read it in a while:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

I put the key part in bold, so you can see it more easily.  No one took away her rights; she exercised hers, and they exercised theirs.  You don't have a constitutional right to attend a private university, just as the university is not bound by the constitution to keep anyone who enrolls regardless of behavior.


I understand the point you make.  But what's the difference between limiting someone's free speech and limiting someone's freedom when they join a cult?  Would you really support Scientology holding people against their will if they wanted to leave?  Why is one right ok to sign away and the other not?
 
6 days ago  

Neondistraction: These idiots seem to think that people only care when it's a white cop that does the killing, but they'd be just as upset if it'd been a black cop that knelt on George Floyd's neck for nearly 9 minutes.  They just want the cops, regardless of color, to stop killing a disproportionate amount of black people.

Is it really that hard to understand, or is it just willful ignorance?


(especially when they are unarmed/already in custody)
 
6 days ago  

Steakzilla: Al!: Steakzilla: Al!: Steakzilla: Mrtraveler01: Steakzilla: Mrtraveler01: Wanted to get in here before the "Farkers with alternative opinions" start telling us that she has a point.

More like who gives a fark if she has a point.  Why did she get kicked outta school for this?  Lol

Because she was stupid enough to wear a shirt with the university's name on it while making that video for starters...

That seems like a dumb reason to censor someone.  Maybe they should make you sign an agreement before selling the shirt.  That way only true believers get to exercise their first amendment rights while wearing the shirt.

It's a private university.  If she was expelled, I'm sure they have explicit rules that she violated.  If she left voluntarily, you have even less ground to stand on.

If she left voluntarily then that's on her.  Otherwise I don't think private institutions should be able to take away you first amendment rights outside of the institution... If you disagree with me that's fine.  I'm guessing you also supported the NFL over the whole kneeling thing right?

They didn't take away her 1st amendment rights. She can post that video again.  She can make a new video lambasting the university.  She can wear blackface and perform a 1 person play she wrote where the main character does nothing but take drugs and rape white women.  Just as she has a right to do those things, the university has a right to not allow her to enroll in their private classes.  The first amendment, since you clearly haven't read it in a while:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

I put the key part in bold, so you can see it more easily.  No one took away her rights; she exercised hers, and they exercised theirs.  You don't have a constitutional right to attend a private university, just as the university is not bound by the constitution to keep anyone who enrolls regardless of behavior.

I understand the point you make.  But what's the difference between limiting someone's free speech and limiting someone's freedom when they join a cult?  Would you really support Scientology holding people against their will if they wanted to leave?  Why is one right ok to sign away and the other not?


Dude, she made a racist video while wearing university apparel. She was "representing" the university by virtue of wearing that shirt and the university decided that she did not represent that university's values. If she hadn't of worn that shirt, the university would have had less of a justification to expel her. She signed her own death sentence. 

It really isn't anything more than that.
 
6 days ago  

Steakzilla: Al!: Steakzilla: Al!: Steakzilla: Mrtraveler01: Steakzilla: Mrtraveler01: Wanted to get in here before the "Farkers with alternative opinions" start telling us that she has a point.

More like who gives a fark if she has a point.  Why did she get kicked outta school for this?  Lol

Because she was stupid enough to wear a shirt with the university's name on it while making that video for starters...

That seems like a dumb reason to censor someone.  Maybe they should make you sign an agreement before selling the shirt.  That way only true believers get to exercise their first amendment rights while wearing the shirt.

It's a private university.  If she was expelled, I'm sure they have explicit rules that she violated.  If she left voluntarily, you have even less ground to stand on.

If she left voluntarily then that's on her.  Otherwise I don't think private institutions should be able to take away you first amendment rights outside of the institution... If you disagree with me that's fine.  I'm guessing you also supported the NFL over the whole kneeling thing right?

They didn't take away her 1st amendment rights. She can post that video again.  She can make a new video lambasting the university.  She can wear blackface and perform a 1 person play she wrote where the main character does nothing but take drugs and rape white women.  Just as she has a right to do those things, the university has a right to not allow her to enroll in their private classes.  The first amendment, since you clearly haven't read it in a while:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

I put the key part in bold, so you can see it more easily.  No one took away her rights; she exercised hers, and they exercised theirs.  You don't have a constitutional right to attend a private university, just as the university is not bound by the constitution to keep anyone who enrolls regardless of behavior.

I understand the point you make.  But what's the difference between limiting someone's free speech and limiting someone's freedom when they join a cult?  Would you really support Scientology holding people against their will if they wanted to leave?  Why is one right ok to sign away and the other not?


Not one is limiting her free speech.  She is free to post whatever the fark she wants, unless it is specifically illegal, where ever she likes.

It is the right of any private business (by which I mean not government controlled) to decide they want nothing to do with her shiat.

As for your bs about signing away your freedoms when joining a cult... what are you on?  That *IS* illegal.
 
6 days ago  

MBooda: Smelly Pirate Hooker: The fark is Hardin-Simmons University?


Founders?
[Fark user image image 640x854][Fark user image image 850x850]


That Simmons guy is a Doctorate of Love.
 
6 days ago  
The only reason the University authorities should be upset is because she is wearing the University's shirt.  Other than that, I don't see any other problem with it.
 
Al! [TotalFark]
6 days ago  
Steakzilla: I understand the point you make.  But what's the difference between limiting someone's free speech and limiting someone's freedom when they join a cult?  Would you really support Scientology holding people against their will if they wanted to leave?  Why is one right ok to sign away and the other not?

Wait.  Is she a (former) Scientologist being held against her will?  Or is the university holding her against her will by booting her?  Or is she a Scientologist holding others against their will?  I'm confused.  Kidnapping is a crime, and no part of our constitution should ever be misconstrued as granting a private citizen the right to infringe upon the rights of another private citizen.  No rights were infringed upon as far as I can tell with the matter at hand... she made a video that the university didn't like, and in order to keep their private club they way they like it, they kicked her out.  That's all, and none of that is infringing on any rights.  I'm not sure where Scientology comes in to the conversation.
 
6 days ago  

ManifestDestiny: Steakzilla: Al!: Steakzilla: Mrtraveler01: Steakzilla: Mrtraveler01: Wanted to get in here before the "Farkers with alternative opinions" start telling us that she has a point.

More like who gives a fark if she has a point.  Why did she get kicked outta school for this?  Lol

Because she was stupid enough to wear a shirt with the university's name on it while making that video for starters...

That seems like a dumb reason to censor someone.  Maybe they should make you sign an agreement before selling the shirt.  That way only true believers get to exercise their first amendment rights while wearing the shirt.

It's a private university.  If she was expelled, I'm sure they have explicit rules that she violated.  If she left voluntarily, you have even less ground to stand on.

If she left voluntarily then that's on her.  Otherwise I don't think private institutions should be able to take away you first amendment rights outside of the institution... If you disagree with me that's fine.  I'm guessing you also supported the NFL over the whole kneeling thing right?

Nobody took her rights away. She's fully free to post on tiktok all she likes...just not while being affiliated with that school. Freedom of speech doesn't include freedom from consequences.


So this woman is paying money to go to the university and is then told to only say things the school seems appropriate even when outside of class or risk expulsion.  How does she have freedom of speech? How did you feel about the NFL btw?
 
6 days ago  
Btw, it's not racist because she said the reactions were from "People", not reactions from black people or any other race.
 
6 days ago  

Al!: Steakzilla: I understand the point you make.  But what's the difference between limiting someone's free speech and limiting someone's freedom when they join a cult?  Would you really support Scientology holding people against their will if they wanted to leave?  Why is one right ok to sign away and the other not?

Wait.  Is she a (former) Scientologist being held against her will?  Or is the university holding her against her will by booting her?  Or is she a Scientologist holding others against their will?  I'm confused.  Kidnapping is a crime, and no part of our constitution should ever be misconstrued as granting a private citizen the right to infringe upon the rights of another private citizen.  No rights were infringed upon as far as I can tell with the matter at hand... she made a video that the university didn't like, and in order to keep their private club they way they like it, they kicked her out.  That's all, and none of that is infringing on any rights.  I'm not sure where Scientology comes in to the conversation.


It was a thought exercise to see how many rights he thought it was legally ok to sign away when you are part of a private organization...
 
6 days ago  

Steakzilla: So this woman is paying money to go to the university and is then told to only say things the school seems appropriate even when outside of class or risk expulsion.


Farking Codes of Conduct...
 
6 days ago  

Mrtraveler01: Steakzilla: So this woman is paying money to go to the university and is then told to only say things the school seems appropriate even when outside of class or risk expulsion.

Farking Codes of Conduct...


Did she do it during class?  Why should the school be able to control someone outside of class?  It's a simple question that no one has provided a good answer for.  If you just disagree that's fine, we don't have to agree...
 
6 days ago  
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Racism is only real in world of the people who are being subjected to it.
And, in this girl's world her point is correct to her.

I really do think we are all Cheerios in a blow of milk that is our shared realities, like gravity.
But each individual cheerio, experiences things the other Cheerios don't experience.

Thus I don't get a job because bias towards a white applicant, and she thinks she was really more qualified.
 
Al! [TotalFark]
6 days ago  

Steakzilla: ManifestDestiny: Steakzilla: Al!: Steakzilla: Mrtraveler01: Steakzilla: Mrtraveler01: Wanted to get in here before the "Farkers with alternative opinions" start telling us that she has a point.

More like who gives a fark if she has a point.  Why did she get kicked outta school for this?  Lol

Because she was stupid enough to wear a shirt with the university's name on it while making that video for starters...

That seems like a dumb reason to censor someone.  Maybe they should make you sign an agreement before selling the shirt.  That way only true believers get to exercise their first amendment rights while wearing the shirt.

It's a private university.  If she was expelled, I'm sure they have explicit rules that she violated.  If she left voluntarily, you have even less ground to stand on.

If she left voluntarily then that's on her.  Otherwise I don't think private institutions should be able to take away you first amendment rights outside of the institution... If you disagree with me that's fine.  I'm guessing you also supported the NFL over the whole kneeling thing right?

Nobody took her rights away. She's fully free to post on tiktok all she likes...just not while being affiliated with that school. Freedom of speech doesn't include freedom from consequences.

So this woman is paying money to go to the university and is then told to only say things the school seems appropriate even when outside of class or risk expulsion.  How does she have freedom of speech? How did you feel about the NFL btw?


Private organizations have the right to conduct themselves as they see fit within the bounds of the law.  If I was working at the Buffalo News and published a video talking about how bad the Buffalo News sucked and how evil my bosses were, they'd be well within their rights to fire me.  I exercise my rights, they exercise theirs.  Her freedom of speech is why she isn't going to jail over the situation, because it is illegal to make it illegal to make videos like that.  You seem to think that a private organization has to eternally keep all enrollees no matter what they may do, but that isn't how it works at all.  They have rules (in this case Christian values), and she violated those rules.
 
6 days ago  

Steakzilla: ManifestDestiny: Steakzilla: Al!: Steakzilla: Mrtraveler01: Steakzilla: Mrtraveler01: Wanted to get in here before the "Farkers with alternative opinions" start telling us that she has a point.

More like who gives a fark if she has a point.  Why did she get kicked outta school for this?  Lol

Because she was stupid enough to wear a shirt with the university's name on it while making that video for starters...

That seems like a dumb reason to censor someone.  Maybe they should make you sign an agreement before selling the shirt.  That way only true believers get to exercise their first amendment rights while wearing the shirt.

It's a private university.  If she was expelled, I'm sure they have explicit rules that she violated.  If she left voluntarily, you have even less ground to stand on.

If she left voluntarily then that's on her.  Otherwise I don't think private institutions should be able to take away you first amendment rights outside of the institution... If you disagree with me that's fine.  I'm guessing you also supported the NFL over the whole kneeling thing right?

Nobody took her rights away. She's fully free to post on tiktok all she likes...just not while being affiliated with that school. Freedom of speech doesn't include freedom from consequences.

So this woman is paying money to go to the university and is then told to only say things the school seems appropriate even when outside of class or risk expulsion.  How does she have freedom of speech? How did you feel about the NFL btw?


She knew the rules, she violated them.  What part of that statement isn't sinking in.  It still applies even if she didn't bother to read said rules.

To use your level of obtusely ignoring reality, that's like saying "I didn't know it was illegal to stab someone.  Why am I being punished?"
 
6 days ago  

GrogSmash: Steakzilla: ManifestDestiny: Steakzilla: Al!: Steakzilla: Mrtraveler01: Steakzilla: Mrtraveler01: Wanted to get in here before the "Farkers with alternative opinions" start telling us that she has a point.

More like who gives a fark if she has a point.  Why did she get kicked outta school for this?  Lol

Because she was stupid enough to wear a shirt with the university's name on it while making that video for starters...

That seems like a dumb reason to censor someone.  Maybe they should make you sign an agreement before selling the shirt.  That way only true believers get to exercise their first amendment rights while wearing the shirt.

It's a private university.  If she was expelled, I'm sure they have explicit rules that she violated.  If she left voluntarily, you have even less ground to stand on.

If she left voluntarily then that's on her.  Otherwise I don't think private institutions should be able to take away you first amendment rights outside of the institution... If you disagree with me that's fine.  I'm guessing you also supported the NFL over the whole kneeling thing right?

Nobody took her rights away. She's fully free to post on tiktok all she likes...just not while being affiliated with that school. Freedom of speech doesn't include freedom from consequences.

So this woman is paying money to go to the university and is then told to only say things the school seems appropriate even when outside of class or risk expulsion.  How does she have freedom of speech? How did you feel about the NFL btw?

She knew the rules, she violated them.  What part of that statement isn't sinking in.  It still applies even if she didn't bother to read said rules.

To use your level of obtusely ignoring reality, that's like saying "I didn't know it was illegal to stab someone.  Why am I being punished?"


Sorry man, I don't think any private organization should be able to control you at home.  If you don't agree with me it's cool but that doesn't mean I'm being obtuse, it just means we don't agree.
 
6 days ago  

BeotchPudding: Mrtraveler01: Wanted to get in here before the "Farkers with alternative opinions" start telling us that she has a point.

She has a point. Do you hear anyone complaining about Chicago? Baltimore? Where are the marches for peace for those neighborhoods where people are slaughtered every weekend? Just this past weekend in Chicago an infant was shot and died as well as a 10 yr old eating ice cream. No outrage over these actions.


Did the government kill that child? No? Then these incidents have nothing to do with each other. Police murdering people and non-police murdering people are two different kinds of problems with two different kinds of solutions. But you knew that already. You just wanted to drop in and yell, "What about black on black crime!?" as if you just came up with something intelligent and novel.
 
6 days ago  

MerelyFoolish: The first amendment is dead.  What happened to disagreeing with what someone says, but appreciating their right to say it?

Did she say anything more offensive than "fark cops"?  Or "cops are murderers"?  Or "white people - if you're not with us (the demonstrators) you are murderers"?  People are walking the streets of our major cities chanting these things every day.

People need to understand two things:

1.  Most "racists" don't dislike others due to their color, but due to their culture - and they usually misunderstand that, as well.  True racists are really ignorant people who have very little influence on the world beyond the doors of their rented mobile homes.  At the same time, we must understand that discussing crime statistics is not racism.  To point out the dozens of shootings that occur in Chicago alone each weekend is not racism.  To point out that more unarmed white people are killed by police each year is not racism.  To point out that 90% of interracial crimes involving black and white people are black on white and only 10% white on black is not racism.  It may simply be people saying "We have a unique opportunity here.  Let's examine the whole truth that may lead us to a solution."

2.  People are sick of the hypocrisy of and lies.  When a demonstrator grabs a megaphone and screams "All cops are farking murdering bastards", they lose me immediately.  I totally discount their march, their movement, their pain, their frustration, and their struggle.  When I watched hundreds of teenagers looting stores, only to have some minister complain about the outside agitators who came into town to loot and destroy, it has the same effect on me.  When people ignore the real numbers behind crime and police brutality to support their arguments, I can't take them seriously.


Right? How dare people move a muscle and get their own damn self killed?
 
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