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(New York Daily News)   NYC subway riders are returning to work in state of the art subway cars. State of the art from 1964 that is   (nydailynews.com) divider line
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2020-06-29 9:09:48 AM  
Aw 1964, when life was simpler.
 
2020-06-29 9:11:09 AM  
They still look better than our DC subway cars from the 70's thru early 2000's that are still in use. Filthy stained carpets.
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2020-06-29 9:27:28 AM  
*whiffffff*

Ahhhh, vintage urine. Definitely a 1964 vintage. Excellent year!
 
2020-06-29 9:33:26 AM  
is it too late to get the redbirds back from the ocean floor?
 
2020-06-29 9:35:18 AM  
The B-52 is a decade older than that.
 
2020-06-29 9:45:05 AM  

Walker: They still look better than our DC subway cars from the 70's thru early 2000's that are still in use. Filthy stained carpets.


Heh. I am old enough to remember when they were new. Visiting from NYC we were amazed how clean those trains were in comparison to ours back then.
 
2020-06-29 9:58:24 AM  

damageddude: Walker: They still look better than our DC subway cars from the 70's thru early 2000's that are still in use. Filthy stained carpets.

Heh. I am old enough to remember when they were new. Visiting from NYC we were amazed how clean those trains were in comparison to ours back then.


Well it was a low bar back then.....

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2020-06-29 10:26:54 AM  

Walker: They still look better than our DC subway cars from the 70's thru early 2000's that are still in use. Filthy stained carpets.
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JFC, whoever thought carpets in a subway would be a good idea vastly overestimated humanity.
 
2020-06-29 10:27:14 AM  

NewportBarGuy: *whiffffff*

Ahhhh, vintage urine. Definitely a 1964 vintage. Excellent year!


It's the added lead. It gives it a touch of rosewater sweetness to the bouquet.
 
2020-06-29 10:31:20 AM  
More proof that they just don't make things like they used to.
 
2020-06-29 10:32:08 AM  

Walker: They still look better than our DC subway cars from the 70's thru early 2000's that are still in use. Filthy stained carpets.
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Wait, they carpeted the cars in your system?! The fark were they thinkin'?!?!
 
2020-06-29 10:32:55 AM  
"The scary snafu was due to Bombardier - the Canada-based maker of the cars"

Why is Bombardier still in business?
I ask this as a Canuckian taxpayer who's sick of bailing oot this clusterf**k of a company.
 
2020-06-29 10:34:31 AM  
I'm not a train guy but I would have guessed that hooking the cars together would be one of the most important things.
 
2020-06-29 10:34:44 AM  

adj_m: Walker: They still look better than our DC subway cars from the 70's thru early 2000's that are still in use. Filthy stained carpets.
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JFC, whoever thought carpets in a subway would be a good idea vastly overestimated humanity.


Not shiat; can't they just rip those carpets out and install new flooring?  Hell, they did it with a few of the models in the NYC subway because they were pretty sorry looking during inclement weather.
 
2020-06-29 10:36:08 AM  

Walker: They still look better than our DC subway cars from the 70's thru early 2000's that are still in use. Filthy stained carpets.
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Why would anyone put carpet in a subway train?
 
2020-06-29 10:36:35 AM  

oldfarthenry: "The scary snafu was due to Bombardier - the Canada-based maker of the cars"

Why is Bombardier still in business?
I ask this as a Canuckian taxpayer who's sick of bailing oot this clusterf**k of a company.


Uh yeah, that's why Kawasaki got the contract from the MTA (NY) for the newest models (R211).  The R179's Bombardier provided for the subways have been an absolute shiatshow.
 
2020-06-29 10:37:00 AM  

Rwa2play: Walker: They still look better than our DC subway cars from the 70's thru early 2000's that are still in use. Filthy stained carpets.
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Wait, they carpeted the cars in your system?! The fark were they thinkin'?!?!


The newest model cars don't have carpeting and look much nicer.
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2020-06-29 10:39:17 AM  

Walker: Rwa2play: Walker: They still look better than our DC subway cars from the 70's thru early 2000's that are still in use. Filthy stained carpets.
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Wait, they carpeted the cars in your system?! The fark were they thinkin'?!?!

The newest model cars don't have carpeting and look much nicer.
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Woah, DC got new cars?

These are days of miracles and wonder.
 
2020-06-29 10:39:41 AM  

oldfarthenry: "The scary snafu was due to Bombardier - the Canada-based maker of the cars"

Why is Bombardier still in business?
I ask this as a Canuckian taxpayer who's sick of bailing oot this clusterf**k of a company.


I do believe you answered your own question there.
 
2020-06-29 10:40:06 AM  

Rwa2play: adj_m: Walker: They still look better than our DC subway cars from the 70's thru early 2000's that are still in use. Filthy stained carpets.
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JFC, whoever thought carpets in a subway would be a good idea vastly overestimated humanity.

Not shiat; can't they just rip those carpets out and install new flooring?  Hell, they did it with a few of the models in the NYC subway because they were pretty sorry looking during inclement weather.


MARTA had carpet 20 years ago, but they've replaced it with rubber which is clearly much better.
 
2020-06-29 10:41:07 AM  

Walker: Rwa2play: Walker: They still look better than our DC subway cars from the 70's thru early 2000's that are still in use. Filthy stained carpets.
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Wait, they carpeted the cars in your system?! The fark were they thinkin'?!?!

The newest model cars don't have carpeting and look much nicer.
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Ok, not sure of how wide those cars are in your system, but that design reminds me of the R46, R68 and R68A models that I loathe because the pathways are much narrower.

Starting with the R142s and onward they stopped that crap; much roomier and people are able to move around more freely.
 
2020-06-29 10:42:00 AM  
Carpeting belongs in a dwelling. Not on subway cars.
 
2020-06-29 10:45:54 AM  
something else from 1964 you never see
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unless you go outside
 
2020-06-29 10:47:31 AM  

Walker: Rwa2play: Walker: They still look better than our DC subway cars from the 70's thru early 2000's that are still in use. Filthy stained carpets.
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Wait, they carpeted the cars in your system?! The fark were they thinkin'?!?!

The newest model cars don't have carpeting and look much nicer.
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"this is a 7000-series train"
 
2020-06-29 10:48:22 AM  

talkertopc: Walker: They still look better than our DC subway cars from the 70's thru early 2000's that are still in use. Filthy stained carpets.
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Why would anyone put carpet in a subway train?


Guessing maybe a mix of slip resistance when wet, and an optimistic vision of a clean, beautiful public transit system for the people? Slip resistance and comfort are the most common reasons we specify it.

There are some good vinyl floors that are great when wet for people of all levels of mobility now, but maybe the range was too limited back then, or it was associated with institutional flooring, or something like that.

Anyone specifying carpet for anything public these days should be committed for their own safety.
 
2020-06-29 10:51:06 AM  

Rwa2play: Walker: Rwa2play: Walker: They still look better than our DC subway cars from the 70's thru early 2000's that are still in use. Filthy stained carpets.
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Wait, they carpeted the cars in your system?! The fark were they thinkin'?!?!

The newest model cars don't have carpeting and look much nicer.
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Ok, not sure of how wide those cars are in your system, but that design reminds me of the R46, R68 and R68A models that I loathe because the pathways are much narrower.

Starting with the R142s and onward they stopped that crap; much roomier and people are able to move around more freely.


I really like the openness of the European trains that have separate cars, but no doors or walls between them.  It makes the ride so much less claustrophobic.

Although there are also downsides in convenience and I guess safety as well with that style.
 
2020-06-29 10:51:31 AM  
Pretty sure, up until very recently, I was riding the Red Robin out to Mets Games...on the same subway cars they used for the 1964 Worlds Fair.
 
2020-06-29 11:00:02 AM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: Walker: Rwa2play: Walker: They still look better than our DC subway cars from the 70's thru early 2000's that are still in use. Filthy stained carpets.
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Wait, they carpeted the cars in your system?! The fark were they thinkin'?!?!

The newest model cars don't have carpeting and look much nicer.
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"this is a 7000-series train"


They love to announce that over the speaker.

They may look nicer, but they have their own problems such as the A/C not working a lot of the time and shaking people's homes and cracking their foundations:

https://wamu.org/story/17/03/03/anoth​e​r-d-c-neighborhood-says-metros-new-tra​ins-shaking-homes/

https://wjla.com/news/local/metro-pas​s​engers-sweating-it-out-on-hot-new-7000​-series-cars
 
2020-06-29 11:00:47 AM  
New York....the city so STUPID, they named it TWICE!
 
2020-06-29 11:16:45 AM  

AAAAGGGGHHHH: Carpeting belongs in a dwelling. Not on subway cars.


Years ago when I rented an apartment the landlord told me he was going to put new flooring in the bathroom.
I moved in and the bathroom was carpeted. At first I thought oh, this is nice.
After about a week I figured out that this was going to be a nightmare.

So not on subway cars and only in certain parts of a dwelling.
 
2020-06-29 11:20:24 AM  

p51d007: New York....the city so STUPID, they named it TWICE!


This coming from someone who's IQ = to their waist size?
 
2020-06-29 11:32:29 AM  
Not old. Classic.
 
2020-06-29 11:34:30 AM  

Rapmaster2000: The B-52 is a decade older than that.


And a lot cooler to commute to work in.
 
2020-06-29 11:55:18 AM  

IRestoreFurniture: I really like the openness of the European trains that have separate cars, but no doors or walls between them.  It makes the ride so much less claustrophobic.

Although there are also downsides in convenience and I guess safety as well with that style.


The Hong Kong MTR also has open cars. It adds capacity and makes it easy to move forward or back if it's not too crowded. OTOH, it's also pretty noisy.
 
2020-06-29 11:55:40 AM  
(from the article) They are the oldest train sets still running in any subway system on the planet

Well... I guess you have to have a carefully crafted definition of "subway system".  There are still some PCC's in service and the last of those was made in '52.  I guess all of the remaining PCC's are on surface lines so you can argue they're not "subways" but (for example) the ones near Boston are certainly part of the MBTA "subway system" (what can I say?  I'm a sucker for subway history)
 
2020-06-29 12:10:07 PM  
"...failing to install a pin designed to hold the cars together..."

Bickity-bam!

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2020-06-29 1:28:25 PM  
Having lived in NYC for > 30 years, I've been on plenty of these subway cars and don't mind them at all. That the MTA seems to be a burning pile of mismanagement that we keep throwing money at to fix is more of a concern.
 
2020-06-29 1:42:52 PM  

Walker: They still look better than our DC subway cars from the 70's thru early 2000's that are still in use. Filthy stained carpets.
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Boggles the mind why carpet is chosen sometimes. I've worked in a few hospitals that have done that, in the wards, including a labor and delivery floor. Talk about yuck.
 
2020-06-29 1:44:54 PM  
Well, at least the urine should be dry by now...
 
2020-06-29 1:45:37 PM  

Walker: damageddude: Walker: They still look better than our DC subway cars from the 70's thru early 2000's that are still in use. Filthy stained carpets.

Heh. I am old enough to remember when they were new. Visiting from NYC we were amazed how clean those trains were in comparison to ours back then.

Well it was a low bar back then.....

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Is that a cop in blue jeans as part of his uniform?!
 
2020-06-29 1:55:19 PM  

Medic Zero: Walker: They still look better than our DC subway cars from the 70's thru early 2000's that are still in use. Filthy stained carpets.
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Boggles the mind why carpet is chosen sometimes. I've worked in a few hospitals that have done that, in the wards, including a labor and delivery floor. Talk about yuck.


I once walked out of a dentists office because they had carpet in the exam room.

It's not really conducive to eat disinfection etc.  And if they were willing to ignore that, I didn't want them or their instruments in my mouth.


Super awkward, it was my wife's longtime dentist.
 
2020-06-29 1:55:45 PM  

IRestoreFurniture: Medic Zero: Walker: They still look better than our DC subway cars from the 70's thru early 2000's that are still in use. Filthy stained carpets.
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Boggles the mind why carpet is chosen sometimes. I've worked in a few hospitals that have done that, in the wards, including a labor and delivery floor. Talk about yuck.

I once walked out of a dentists office because they had carpet in the exam room.

It's not really conducive to eat disinfection etc.  And if they were willing to ignore that, I didn't want them or their instruments in my mouth.


Super awkward, it was my wife's longtime dentist.


*easy disinfection.
 
2020-06-29 2:02:58 PM  
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2020-06-29 2:06:26 PM  
If you think that's old, you're going to shiat your pants when you realize most of the equipment our military uses on a day to day basis.
 
2020-06-29 2:41:21 PM  

BretMavrik: IRestoreFurniture: I really like the openness of the European trains that have separate cars, but no doors or walls between them.  It makes the ride so much less claustrophobic.

Although there are also downsides in convenience and I guess safety as well with that style.

The Hong Kong MTR also has open cars. It adds capacity and makes it easy to move forward or back if it's not too crowded. OTOH, it's also pretty noisy.


All the new trains on the Paris Métro since about 1995 are the open-gangway configuration.  The newer ones have A/C and so have fixed windows, but on the older models with opening windows you get a nice breeze at speed that runs the entire length of the train.
 
2020-06-29 3:04:42 PM  

Rwa2play: Walker: They still look better than our DC subway cars from the 70's thru early 2000's that are still in use. Filthy stained carpets.
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Wait, they carpeted the cars in your system?! The fark were they thinkin'?!?!


I'm guessing that back then, they were worried about getting sued for slip-and-fall accidents, and/or too cheap to pay for decent linoleum flooring.
 
2020-06-29 3:07:52 PM  
So, they were built before planned obsolescence had come to railcar builders?
 
2020-06-29 5:20:17 PM  
Everything old is new again.

Is America as Great as it was in 1964 yet?
 
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