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(Times Union)   "You really don't want to meet your heroes." - Don't look too closely at the lives and ways of those you grew up admiring, it's usually not pretty   (blog.timesunion.com) divider line
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2020-06-29 9:53:17 AM  
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2020-06-29 10:30:01 AM  
Many years ago out in California, my brother and sister-in-law were in San Diego at a basketball arena and spotted Bill Walton, the brilliant, sometimes politically radical, and often injured basketball great.  He was on this particular occasion injured with his foot in a cast sitting at the game.  My brother, an intensely private person was not typically one to disturb anybody, least of all a celebrity.  In addition, he's not one to get all gaga about meeting a celebrity considering that through his line of work he has met amongst others Michael Jordan and Michael Jackson.  At any rate my sister-in-law, an unassuming person if there ever was, went up to the big "red-head," and politely asked for an autograph, I believe the autograph was meant to be for me since I was still a child at the time.  Walton basically told her to buzz off.  My brother at that point told him that he hoped his leg wouldn't heal.  As it would turn out it never really did, and now he has a limp, and while we don't have the autograph, we'll always have the memories.

You spent most of this paragraph telling us what great people your brother and sister-in-law are, and how they would never ever bother a celebrity.  You finish it by telling us that they did bother the celebrity and then insulted him when he wouldn't do the thing they wanted.  Have you considered that maybe your brother is a dick?
 
2020-06-29 10:34:46 AM  
That pic with Howard Stern and Jim Gaffigan musing if Gaffigan ever pestered Stern.

Dumbass author doesn't realize that Gaffigan is a regular guest on the Howard Stern show...
 
2020-06-29 10:34:48 AM  
I met Weird Al at an official post-concert Meet-and-greet, and he was pretty great for the 30 seconds that I met him.
 
2020-06-29 11:00:28 AM  
Before the 'net, it wasn't easy to 'know' your heroes... now it is.   Makes a difference.
 
2020-06-29 11:01:26 AM  
I met Tom Hanks once during a layover in Denver. He threw his drink in the bartender's face when they cut him off for being belligerently drunk and making loud profanity laden threats to random passersby. Other that that, nice guy.
 
2020-06-29 11:09:04 AM  
I've met quite a few famous musicians, most were cool. These days with the internet and people digging into people's life history, it's hard not to know if some folks you admire have a flawed history.
We're all flawed, but not all flaws are created equal.
 
2020-06-29 11:10:25 AM  
I spent 5 weeks on set with Levar Burton.  His public image is genuine.  He really is that nice.   Cloris Leachman was a sweetheart too.
 
2020-06-29 11:23:43 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Many years ago out in California, my brother and sister-in-law were in San Diego at a basketball arena and spotted Bill Walton, the brilliant, sometimes politically radical, and often injured basketball great.  He was on this particular occasion injured with his foot in a cast sitting at the game.  My brother, an intensely private person was not typically one to disturb anybody, least of all a celebrity.  In addition, he's not one to get all gaga about meeting a celebrity considering that through his line of work he has met amongst others Michael Jordan and Michael Jackson.  At any rate my sister-in-law, an unassuming person if there ever was, went up to the big "red-head," and politely asked for an autograph, I believe the autograph was meant to be for me since I was still a child at the time.  Walton basically told her to buzz off.  My brother at that point told him that he hoped his leg wouldn't heal.  As it would turn out it never really did, and now he has a limp, and while we don't have the autograph, we'll always have the memories.

You spent most of this paragraph telling us what great people your brother and sister-in-law are, and how they would never ever bother a celebrity.  You finish it by telling us that they did bother the celebrity and then insulted him when he wouldn't do the thing they wanted.  Have you considered that maybe your brother is a dick?


Of all people to take a shot at Bill Walton is probably a bad choice. The guys a legendary Grateful Dead fan, hangs out with and in the crowd etc etc. maybe their story is true, or maybe he doesnt like being asked for autographs while hes working,

Autographs are stupid. You can just as easily tell a story of hey i saw so and so at such a place without bothering them. Hey i have piece of paper that proves i bothered a famous person once
 
2020-06-29 11:27:50 AM  
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2020-06-29 11:53:22 AM  

Snapper Carr: I spent 5 weeks on set with Levar Burton.  His public image is genuine.  He really is that nice.   Cloris Leachman was a sweetheart too.


Good to hear.  I was going to comment about Troy meeting Levar on Community but your story is more to the point.
 
2020-06-29 12:23:42 PM  
Im pretty sure Mr Rodgers would be worth meeting in real life, but yeah celebrities going about their grocery shopping or eating at a restaurant don't like randos asking for pictures...this is shocking!
 
2020-06-29 12:39:25 PM  
In a past life, I met Joan Crawford. Our discussion about wooden clothes hangers versus wire clothes hangers did not go well.
 
2020-06-29 12:48:09 PM  

Hooker with a Penis: Im pretty sure Mr Rodgers would be worth meeting in real life, but yeah celebrities going about their grocery shopping or eating at a restaurant don't like randos asking for pictures...this is shocking!


He's exactly the person who you think he is, and he makes the conversation all about you somehow. I can't explain it, but you go away feeling the best you've ever felt after talking to him.

/ Pittsburgher
// had a friend who used to help him answer fan mail
 
2020-06-29 1:30:50 PM  
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2020-06-29 1:37:50 PM  
George Takei is a fantastic guy. I met him at a video store signing in '86. Star Trek 4 was coming out on VHS or something, and he was there in his full Starfleet movie uniform(!), holding court with all of the fans.

It was a long line, but when I got there, he let us take a picture, signed our stuff, and talked to us for a solid half hour as the event was winding down. I brought him our fanzine and a ASCII banner of the Enterprise signed by all the people in our fan club and he graciously accepted it. I remember telling him how happy I was to have his autograph, and that one day I wanted to get everyone's autograph.

Sometime later a package arrives to the fan club address (my house) from Mr. Takei. I open it and find a picture of the original cast with all the signatures, even Shatner! That picture is still one of my most prized possessions.
 
2020-06-29 1:51:57 PM  
I learned as a child, long ago, that Human Beings are *ALL* that we have to work with, and that *ALL* Human Beings have their weaknesses and problems.

I have learned to be humbly grateful for whatever good and helpful things are achieved, even if the doers are flawed.

If we insist on our heroes being perfect, we're in for an eternity of disappointment and no role models.
 
2020-06-29 1:54:05 PM  

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: I learned as a child, long ago, that Human Beings are *ALL* that we have to work with, and that *ALL* Human Beings have their weaknesses and problems.

I have learned to be humbly grateful for whatever good and helpful things are achieved, even if the doers are flawed.

If we insist on our heroes being perfect, we're in for an eternity of disappointment and no role models.


OK, I stand corrected.  There *are* a few Saints in this world, and George Takei and Fred Rogers are two of the very welcome exceptions.
 
2020-06-29 1:55:29 PM  

AtomPeepers: George Takei is a fantastic guy. I met him at a video store signing in '86. Star Trek 4 was coming out on VHS or something, and he was there in his full Starfleet movie uniform(!), holding court with all of the fans.

It was a long line, but when I got there, he let us take a picture, signed our stuff, and talked to us for a solid half hour as the event was winding down. I brought him our fanzine and a ASCII banner of the Enterprise signed by all the people in our fan club and he graciously accepted it. I remember telling him how happy I was to have his autograph, and that one day I wanted to get everyone's autograph.

Sometime later a package arrives to the fan club address (my house) from Mr. Takei. I open it and find a picture of the original cast with all the signatures, even Shatner! That picture is still one of my most prized possessions.


Huh. He only sent me a severed dog's head. Shatner just sent a note full of racial slurs and scrawled in human feces.
 
2020-06-29 2:31:33 PM  

kindms: Rapmaster2000: Many years ago out in California, my brother and sister-in-law were in San Diego at a basketball arena and spotted Bill Walton, the brilliant, sometimes politically radical, and often injured basketball great.  He was on this particular occasion injured with his foot in a cast sitting at the game.  My brother, an intensely private person was not typically one to disturb anybody, least of all a celebrity.  In addition, he's not one to get all gaga about meeting a celebrity considering that through his line of work he has met amongst others Michael Jordan and Michael Jackson.  At any rate my sister-in-law, an unassuming person if there ever was, went up to the big "red-head," and politely asked for an autograph, I believe the autograph was meant to be for me since I was still a child at the time.  Walton basically told her to buzz off.  My brother at that point told him that he hoped his leg wouldn't heal.  As it would turn out it never really did, and now he has a limp, and while we don't have the autograph, we'll always have the memories.

You spent most of this paragraph telling us what great people your brother and sister-in-law are, and how they would never ever bother a celebrity.  You finish it by telling us that they did bother the celebrity and then insulted him when he wouldn't do the thing they wanted.  Have you considered that maybe your brother is a dick?

Of all people to take a shot at Bill Walton is probably a bad choice. The guys a legendary Grateful Dead fan, hangs out with and in the crowd etc etc. maybe their story is true, or maybe he doesnt like being asked for autographs while hes working,

Autographs are stupid. You can just as easily tell a story of hey i saw so and so at such a place without bothering them. Hey i have piece of paper that proves i bothered a famous person once


And not only that, but that injury limited Walton's career.  His disappointment led to years of depression and had him contemplating suicide.

The author knows all this, but he's like "HA HA, your life was ruined cause I never got my autograph!"

Seriously, who's the dick in this story?
 
2020-06-29 3:15:35 PM  
I met Keith David once and he was a total dick!  He would NOT put on the glasses!


/not really
//I would like to meet him
///and try not to ask him to put on the glasses
 
2020-06-29 4:39:42 PM  
FiL was a pro baseball player and coach who was also an abusive dick to his wife and kids esp when 'roided up.  you wouldn't know it from meeting him.  not even close to an outlier in that regard.

"awesome guy, if he didn't raise you."
 
2020-06-29 8:05:26 PM  
I am a hero to some folks . They really don't want to know .
 
2020-06-29 8:21:43 PM  
I've never understood the concept of heroes. There are some people I greatly admire for certain things that they've done but I've never taken that to mean that everything they do is wonderful.
 
2020-06-29 8:34:55 PM  
I met Penny (Tweedy) Chenery once.  I freaked out, not expecting her to be at the event I was attending (along with Ron Turcotte and Jim Gaffney). I had a short conversation with her.  She seemed very genuine.  She had a stroke or something not long after.  Dead and gone now.  Not a hero to most people, but she was to me darnit. Got a random photo with Jerry Bailey at the same event.

/If you recognized any of the names in this post I should probably favorite you.
//Met Jane Goodall once, too.
///Was too awed even to speak to her.
 
2020-06-29 9:46:34 PM  

wademh: I've never understood the concept of heroes. There are some people I greatly admire for certain things that they've done but I've never taken that to mean that everything they do is wonderful.


Well it seems nowadays if you are less wonderful than Mary Poppins you need to be taken down
 
2020-06-30 12:31:22 AM  
"Religious leaders such as priests and ministers, and I suppose rabbis"

What the fark is that crap? Why not just say religious leaders? Why single out rabbis? Why just "suppose"? 

You know what they say, if you meet one of your heroes who turns out to be an asshole, you meet an asshole. But if all the heroes you meet turn out to be assholes, you're the one who's the bigoted jerk.
 
2020-06-30 10:09:59 AM  
'Hero' is another term for someone that was in the right place, at the right time, and did the right thing.  That is all.
 
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