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(NBC New York)   The Golden State Killer, Joseph DeAngelo, is set to plead guilty Monday, bringing to a close over 40 years of fear and suffering   (nbcnewyork.com) divider line
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6 days ago  
22 votes:
"Former police officer."

And they wonder why we look at them all askance.
 
6 days ago  
21 votes:
It's really a shame Patton Oswalt's wife passed away before they found him.
 
6 days ago  
13 votes:
I watched some documentary on this killer early in the quarantine and I remember thinking that it had to be a cop.... so, not surprised, but very surprised that if *I* could suspect a cop based on the access, and patterns of his rapes and killings... what the hell? The damned cops always look the other way when "one of our own" is involved... JEEBIS!
 
6 days ago  
12 votes:

AngryTeacher: Mad_Radhu: I watched the first of episode of I'll Be Gone in the Dark last night. So far, it's been a really good documentary.

The podcast Man in the Window was really good too.

This is also the reason why I will never do a 23 and me or anything like that.


This case is exactly the reason WHY I joined 23andme.  If I have a rapist or murderer in my family tree, the law can have them.
 
6 days ago  
11 votes:
To all the people in this thread: do you not see the connection between your thirst for revenge and the police state we live in? If you agree with the BLM movement and defunding the police, but still want extreme punitive punishment for criminals without the possibility of rehabilitation or prevention, then you have a lot of soul searching to do. You can't have it both ways.
 
6 days ago  
11 votes:

special20: freetomato: Rot in hell, you monster.  I hope he spends his time in prison alternating between being frightened of getting his ass kicked, and getting his ass kicked.

His fate is sealed for being a cholo already. He had some pretty young victims... besides, rapists are next to the bottom rung of the social ladder in prison, from what I have read.


Also: he was a cop.
 
6 days ago  
9 votes:

Dangerous_sociopath: If nothing else ever comes of this, I hope they can change rape to have the statue of limitations removed.


You're aptly named.

Statutes of Limitation exist for a reason.  Not for the protection of the guilty, but to protect the innocent.

"Don't remove a fence until you fully understand why it was erected in the first place".
 
6 days ago  
8 votes:
Rot in hell, you monster.  I hope he spends his time in prison alternating between being frightened of getting his ass kicked, and getting his ass kicked.
 
6 days ago  
7 votes:
If nothing else ever comes of this, I hope they can change rape to have the statue of limitations removed.

The Mercy Seat is waiting and I hope they forget to wet your sponge.
 
6 days ago  
6 votes:

I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: It's really a shame Patton Oswalt's wife passed away before they found him.


Then again, it really shows what an awesome and large hearted person Patton Oswalt is for seeing his wife's work through to completion after her passing

Definitely looking forward to the doc on HBO
 
6 days ago  
6 votes:
Yet another 'hero' in blue, er, killer cop...
 
6 days ago  
5 votes:

freetomato: AngryTeacher: Mad_Radhu: I watched the first of episode of I'll Be Gone in the Dark last night. So far, it's been a really good documentary.

The podcast Man in the Window was really good too.

This is also the reason why I will never do a 23 and me or anything like that.

This case is exactly the reason WHY I joined 23andme.  If I have a rapist or murderer in my family tree, the law can have them.


I'm not looking to defend criminals...  I just don't want my genetic information out there for just anyone to have.
 
6 days ago  
4 votes:

My Second Fark Account: To all the people in this thread: do you not see the connection between your thirst for revenge and the police state we live in? If you agree with the BLM movement and defunding the police, but still want extreme punitive punishment for criminals without the possibility of rehabilitation or prevention, then you have a lot of soul searching to do. You can't have it both ways.


I believe that, in this case at least, the SS Rehabilitation and the SS Prevention have both already sailed.
 
6 days ago  
4 votes:

dittybopper: Dangerous_sociopath: If nothing else ever comes of this, I hope they can change rape to have the statue of limitations removed.

You're aptly named.

Statutes of Limitation exist for a reason.  Not for the protection of the guilty, but to protect the innocent.

"Don't remove a fence until you fully understand why it was erected in the first place".



"More: Yes. What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?

Roper: I'd cut down every law in England to do that!

More (roused and excited): Oh? (Advances on Roper.) And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned round on you where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? (Leaves him.) This country's planted thick with laws from coast to coast - Man's laws, not God's-and if you cut them down - and you're just the man to do it - d'you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? (Quietly.) Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake."
― Robert Bolt, A Man For All Seasons
 
6 days ago  
4 votes:
Why are there folks out there who want to close off public DNA databases to investigators?

This farker would still be free if it wasnt for such a database
 
6 days ago  
4 votes:
I lived in the Sacramento region during his terror spree. Every single woman in town was scared. Before this asshole showed up Sacramento was absurdly one of those places where no one locked their doors ( lots of Midwestern transplants here ) and left their windows open at night. He changed all of that with a lot of help from our local TV news who were more than happy to share grisly details all day and night. Constant fear, constant terror for years. I hope they put this guy in general population immediately. Him being a cop and a rapist is going to make him a target for some inmate justice.

/ I'll supply the sack and the bars of soap which they need in there anyway.
 
6 days ago  
3 votes:

wee: My Second Fark Account: To all the people in this thread: do you not see the connection between your thirst for revenge and the police state we live in? If you agree with the BLM movement and defunding the police, but still want extreme punitive punishment for criminals without the possibility of rehabilitation or prevention, then you have a lot of soul searching to do. You can't have it both ways.

You'll probably get a few bites with that.


No real bites. My intent isn't to troll though. The reason why we as a society are in the mess we're in is precisely because we project the revenge mentality fueled by rare, exceptional cases like this one onto poor people and minorities whose crimes are more minor, and often driven by economical forces. Sex crimes is a more special category, but the same sort of cognitive dissonance applies there as well. And then we're all surprised pikachu when cops and courts do bad things in the name of justice and protection.

Basically, can people please stop it with the "I hope this person experiences all the worst stuff I can think of" comments. It's stupidly unhelpful.
 
wee
6 days ago  
3 votes:

Magnus: I know.  Good thing a crew of social workers tracked down this bastard.


When they interviewed the dude who was a sheriff investigating the case, you could see him sort of deflate when he started explaining his department's utter failure to protect the women in his community.

Didn't feel bad for the guy, since he was an utter farking failure and will die knowing he didn't stop women and girls from being raped because of politics. (Did feel bad for the ladies, especially the one who can't play piano anymore because she was raped at age 15 after he snuck up on her when she was playing.)
 
6 days ago  
3 votes:

Cafe Threads: "Former police officer."

And they wonder why we look at them all askance.


I know.  Good thing a crew of social workers tracked down this bastard.
 
6 days ago  
3 votes:

cman: Why are there folks out there who want to close off public DNA databases to investigators?

This farker would still be free if it wasnt for such a database


Becuase it's child's play to synthesize DNA from a sample and contaminate the already obtained evidence. A match is a slam dunk to simplistic juries.
 
wee
6 days ago  
3 votes:

My Second Fark Account: To all the people in this thread: do you not see the connection between your thirst for revenge and the police state we live in? If you agree with the BLM movement and defunding the police, but still want extreme punitive punishment for criminals without the possibility of rehabilitation or prevention, then you have a lot of soul searching to do. You can't have it both ways.


You'll probably get a few bites with that.
 
6 days ago  
3 votes:

Mad_Radhu: I watched the first of episode of I'll Be Gone in the Dark last night. So far, it's been a really good documentary.


The podcast Man in the Window was really good too.

This is also the reason why I will never do a 23 and me or anything like that.
 
6 days ago  
2 votes:

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: wee: Magnus: I know.  Good thing a crew of social workers tracked down this bastard.

When they interviewed the dude who was a sheriff investigating the case, you could see him sort of deflate when he started explaining his department's utter failure to protect the women in his community.

Didn't feel bad for the guy, since he was an utter farking failure and will die knowing he didn't stop women and girls from being raped because of politics. (Did feel bad for the ladies, especially the one who can't play piano anymore because she was raped at age 15 after he snuck up on her when she was playing.)

I never read a reason for why this guy was no longer a cop.

He must have been forced to either quite and at some point police departments would not hire him.

There must be a reason, and I suspect the police knew he was a killer years ago and told him quite the police department or they would send him to jail.


He was fired. I think he was caught shoplifting "burglary" tools or something down. In Sacramento. He was an Auburn cop during this-small foothill town (I grew up in) but he wasn't there long. Before that, he was a cop down in the Valley, Visalia or something, and it's now believed he was a notorious prowler operating in the Valley a few years before the East Area Rapist got started. He even served on a task force that was trying to catch this prowler.
And Auburn is a good 15-20 miles away from the East Area he operated in.

Plus, his physical and mental frailty is probably an act. The ex-cop who nailed him, Paul Holes, says he personally observed the guy actively working his yard and cruising his motorcycle like he was thirty years younger. His neighbors confirmed  this. He was a duck to them, but still mentally and physically sharp.

(Was working half a mile away the day they arrested him)
 
6 days ago  
2 votes:
I was an 8 year old kid in Visalia CA in 1975-76.  Lived on E Kaweah Ave with my mom and older brother.  My brother, my friends and I used to ride bikes and roam the neighborhood at will.  Free range children in the 70's...Anyway  I never knew about this until much later:
A criminal named the Visalia Ransacker was known in the area. Lot of breaking and entering finally a murder.  The guy, Joseph James DeAngelo, was later known as the Golden State Killer.

Around 8:30 p.m. on December 12, 1975,[20] a masked man entered the back yard of a house at 1505 W. Kaweah Avenue, near where the Ransacker had been reported to frequent.[21][22] When Detective William McGowen (on stakeout inside the garage) attempted to detain the man, the suspect shrieked, removed his mask, and feigned surrender after McGowen fired a warning shot.[22][23] However, after jumping the fence to house 1501, he also pulled out a revolver with his left hand, and fired once near McGowen's face, shattering his flashlight.[7] Nearby officers rushed to aid McGowen, and the shooter was able to escape.
 
wee
6 days ago  
2 votes:

My Second Fark Account: Basically, can people please stop it with the "I hope this person experiences all the worst stuff I can think of" comments. It's stupidly unhelpful.


White knighting a serial rapist and mass murderer likely won't get you very far. Justice is being served, not revenge.

I personally hope this evil asshole experiences at least 1/10th the pain, suffering, and horror he inflicted on others.
 
6 days ago  
2 votes:

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: wee: Magnus: I know.  Good thing a crew of social workers tracked down this bastard.

When they interviewed the dude who was a sheriff investigating the case, you could see him sort of deflate when he started explaining his department's utter failure to protect the women in his community.

Didn't feel bad for the guy, since he was an utter farking failure and will die knowing he didn't stop women and girls from being raped because of politics. (Did feel bad for the ladies, especially the one who can't play piano anymore because she was raped at age 15 after he snuck up on her when she was playing.)

I never read a reason for why this guy was no longer a cop.

He must have been forced to either quite and at some point police departments would not hire him.

There must be a reason, and I suspect the police knew he was a killer years ago and told him quite the police department or they would send him to jail.


He got caught shoplifting. Also the rapes were going on while he was a cop but iirc none of the murders
 
6 days ago  
2 votes:

special20: freetomato: Rot in hell, you monster.  I hope he spends his time in prison alternating between being frightened of getting his ass kicked, and getting his ass kicked.

His fate is sealed for being a cholo already. He had some pretty young victims... besides, rapists are next to the bottom rung of the social ladder in prison, from what I have read.


You mean chomo.

A cholo is a Mexican stereotype (think bandana wrapped around the forehead gangster looking guys from SoCal).
 
6 days ago  
2 votes:

AngryTeacher: This is also the reason why I will never do a 23 and me or anything like that.


When my dad was diagnosed with frontotemporal dementia I did the 23 and me thing. It didn't really tell me much for $200. But then I found promethease and for $5 using the raw data from 23 and me it told me almost too much. I don't have risk of early onset dementia just alzheimer's late in life. nsaids makes my stomach bleed and I have a genetic immunity to the norovirus.

BTW the killer was caught using GEDmatch.
 
6 days ago  
2 votes:
I watched the first of episode of I'll Be Gone in the Dark last night. So far, it's been a really good documentary.
 
6 days ago  
1 vote:

Your_Huckleberry: I wonder if he was active in some way from 1980 to his capture. He had a long, long track record of attacks in a prett short time and then stopped completely? Granted, a couple of his last victims really put up and fight and maybe he though he couldn't handle it anymore. But someone that relentless doesn't just stop, do they?


He committed a murder in 1981, then mysteriously stopped until a lone murder in 1986. During his spree and before DNA, his crimes were attributed to three different people, mostly due to geographical differences. Makes you wonder if he's responsible for more crimes during those missing years that just haven't been matched to him. Or it's possible that when he was no longer a cop and no longer had inside information to help him evade capture he just stopped.
 
6 days ago  
1 vote:

whither_apophis: TedCruz'sCrazyDad: wee: Magnus: I know.  Good thing a crew of social workers tracked down this bastard.

When they interviewed the dude who was a sheriff investigating the case, you could see him sort of deflate when he started explaining his department's utter failure to protect the women in his community.

Didn't feel bad for the guy, since he was an utter farking failure and will die knowing he didn't stop women and girls from being raped because of politics. (Did feel bad for the ladies, especially the one who can't play piano anymore because she was raped at age 15 after he snuck up on her when she was playing.)

I never read a reason for why this guy was no longer a cop.

He must have been forced to either quite and at some point police departments would not hire him.

There must be a reason, and I suspect the police knew he was a killer years ago and told him quite the police department or they would send him to jail.

He got caught shoplifting. Also the rapes were going on while he was a cop but iirc none of the murders


At least Claude Snelling was killed while he was a cop, and assigned to investigate his own crime spree.
 
6 days ago  
1 vote:

wee: My Second Fark Account: Basically, can people please stop it with the "I hope this person experiences all the worst stuff I can think of" comments. It's stupidly unhelpful.

White knighting a serial rapist and mass murderer likely won't get you very far. Justice is being served, not revenge.

I personally hope this evil asshole experiences at least 1/10th the pain, suffering, and horror he inflicted on others.


I don't think you even understand the difference between justice and revenge...
 
6 days ago  
1 vote:
geez, they've only gotten to the Sacramento cases.

Flashbacks to watching Gary Ridgeway plead out, must be the differences between CA and WA but his cases were more "Did you rape and murder victim 1?" "yes" "Did you rape and murder victim 2?" "Yes" ...
 
6 days ago  
1 vote:

Cafe Threads: "Former police officer."

And they wonder why we look at them all askance.


I'm surprised his former department didn't make a few calls, get the charges dropped and then offer him the position of chief.

The police union is slacking...
 
6 days ago  
1 vote:

Sexy Jesus: dittybopper: Dangerous_sociopath: If nothing else ever comes of this, I hope they can change rape to have the statue of limitations removed.

You're aptly named.

Statutes of Limitation exist for a reason.  Not for the protection of the guilty, but to protect the innocent.

"Don't remove a fence until you fully understand why it was erected in the first place".


"More: Yes. What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?

Roper: I'd cut down every law in England to do that!

More (roused and excited): Oh? (Advances on Roper.) And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned round on you where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? (Leaves him.) This country's planted thick with laws from coast to coast - Man's laws, not God's-and if you cut them down - and you're just the man to do it - d'you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? (Quietly.) Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake."
― Robert Bolt, A Man For All Seasons


Precisely.

Protections for the accused are there precisely because not having them resulted in travesties of justice.  They don't protect criminals, they protect you and I.
 
6 days ago  
1 vote:
Bringing to a close the fear and suffering?

FU subby.
 
6 days ago  
1 vote:

tricycleracer: Ted Cruz seen sweating profusely.


When is he not?
 
6 days ago  
1 vote:
 
6 days ago  
1 vote:
I not pro-death penalty, but somehow live in prison doesn't seem enough. May karma be real and you die a painful, agonizing death.
 
6 days ago  
1 vote:
I would love to see him in a real life version of the Black Mirror episode 'White Bear.'
 
6 days ago  
1 vote:
Unless someone takes him down in prison, even if he WERE to receive a death penalty, at 74 years
old, he will be long dead before liberal California gets anywhere close to executing him, not that
they would anyway.  :(
 
7 days ago  
1 vote:
I wonder if he'll admit to anything that's not on the list of recognized crimes
 
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