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(NBC New York)   The Golden State Killer, Joseph DeAngelo, is set to plead guilty Monday, bringing to a close over 40 years of fear and suffering   (nbcnewyork.com) divider line
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2 days ago  

My Second Fark Account: To all the people in this thread: do you not see the connection between your thirst for revenge and the police state we live in? If you agree with the BLM movement and defunding the police, but still want extreme punitive punishment for criminals without the possibility of rehabilitation or prevention, then you have a lot of soul searching to do. You can't have it both ways.


says the guy with two fark accounts
 
2 days ago  

AngryTeacher: This is also the reason why I will never do a 23 and me or anything like that.


Because you don't want to linked to the people you've raped and murdered?

Phrasing, how does it work.
 
2 days ago  

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: wee: Magnus: I know.  Good thing a crew of social workers tracked down this bastard.

When they interviewed the dude who was a sheriff investigating the case, you could see him sort of deflate when he started explaining his department's utter failure to protect the women in his community.

Didn't feel bad for the guy, since he was an utter farking failure and will die knowing he didn't stop women and girls from being raped because of politics. (Did feel bad for the ladies, especially the one who can't play piano anymore because she was raped at age 15 after he snuck up on her when she was playing.)

I never read a reason for why this guy was no longer a cop.

He must have been forced to either quite and at some point police departments would not hire him.

There must be a reason, and I suspect the police knew he was a killer years ago and told him quite the police department or they would send him to jail.


He got caught shop lifting and was fired immediately.  Most serial killers start out stealing candy bars.  So, good catch early on.
 
2 days ago  

special20: I remember thinking that it had to be a cop.... so, not surprised, but very surprised that if *I* could suspect a cop based on the access, and patterns of his rapes and killings... what the hell? The damned cops always look the other way when "one of our own" is involved.


From what I've read, the cops pretty much suspected this guy was a cop (or at least military) from the outset, and it turned out he was both.

Plus, wasn't he a diesel mechanic, or some such, for most of his career and while he was criminally active?
 
2 days ago  

RogermcAllen: special20: freetomato: Rot in hell, you monster.  I hope he spends his time in prison alternating between being frightened of getting his ass kicked, and getting his ass kicked.

His fate is sealed for being a cholo already. He had some pretty young victims... besides, rapists are next to the bottom rung of the social ladder in prison, from what I have read.

You mean chomo.

A cholo is a Mexican stereotype (think bandana wrapped around the forehead gangster looking guys from SoCal).


Hahaha... yep. Doesn't make sense the other way.
 
2 days ago  

sex_and_drugs_for_ian: From what I've read, the cops pretty much suspected this guy was a cop (or at least military) from the outset, and it turned out he was both.Plus, wasn't he a diesel mechanic, or some such, for most of his career and while he was criminally active?


According to Wiki, he was a cop on three different small police departments over an 8 year period. It appears he sought that job to learn investigative techniques and acquire inside information that allowed him to avoid capture.  Also, one of his murder victims was a military cop.

Wiki said he was a diesel mechanic from 1990 to 2017. It's not known where he worked during the 80's.

Interestingly, he was married to a lawyer during his entire spree. She never had a clue.
 
2 days ago  
geez, they've only gotten to the Sacramento cases.

Flashbacks to watching Gary Ridgeway plead out, must be the differences between CA and WA but his cases were more "Did you rape and murder victim 1?" "yes" "Did you rape and murder victim 2?" "Yes" ...
 
2 days ago  

wee: My Second Fark Account: Basically, can people please stop it with the "I hope this person experiences all the worst stuff I can think of" comments. It's stupidly unhelpful.

White knighting a serial rapist and mass murderer likely won't get you very far. Justice is being served, not revenge.

I personally hope this evil asshole experiences at least 1/10th the pain, suffering, and horror he inflicted on others.


I don't think you even understand the difference between justice and revenge...
 
2 days ago  

2farknfunny: My Second Fark Account: To all the people in this thread: do you not see the connection between your thirst for revenge and the police state we live in? If you agree with the BLM movement and defunding the police, but still want extreme punitive punishment for criminals without the possibility of rehabilitation or prevention, then you have a lot of soul searching to do. You can't have it both ways.

says the guy with two fark accounts


Check history of "My First Fark Account," I clearly forgot the password to that one.
 
2 days ago  

whither_apophis: TedCruz'sCrazyDad: wee: Magnus: I know.  Good thing a crew of social workers tracked down this bastard.

When they interviewed the dude who was a sheriff investigating the case, you could see him sort of deflate when he started explaining his department's utter failure to protect the women in his community.

Didn't feel bad for the guy, since he was an utter farking failure and will die knowing he didn't stop women and girls from being raped because of politics. (Did feel bad for the ladies, especially the one who can't play piano anymore because she was raped at age 15 after he snuck up on her when she was playing.)

I never read a reason for why this guy was no longer a cop.

He must have been forced to either quite and at some point police departments would not hire him.

There must be a reason, and I suspect the police knew he was a killer years ago and told him quite the police department or they would send him to jail.

He got caught shoplifting. Also the rapes were going on while he was a cop but iirc none of the murders


At least Claude Snelling was killed while he was a cop, and assigned to investigate his own crime spree.
 
2 days ago  
Something something Golden State blew a 3-1 lead
 
2 days ago  

AngryTeacher: freetomato: AngryTeacher: Mad_Radhu: I watched the first of episode of I'll Be Gone in the Dark last night. So far, it's been a really good documentary.

The podcast Man in the Window was really good too.

This is also the reason why I will never do a 23 and me or anything like that.

This case is exactly the reason WHY I joined 23andme.  If I have a rapist or murderer in my family tree, the law can have them.

I'm not looking to defend criminals...  I just don't want my genetic information out there for just anyone to have.


How do you know it's NOT already out there?

Visit your doc, and a nurse takes 2 vials of blood for testing?  What if one of those vials when to the cops.  Someone dressed as USPS or a FedEx driver swabs your front door knob.  A hotel swabs the rooms of everyone who just left them; they have a name, credit card info, and DNA from the bed, remote control, etc.  Your office at work is swabbed; keyboard and mouse would be prime spots of DNA.  Far-fetched?  Maybe...maybe not.

Any one's father, mother, child, 1st-, 2nd-, or 3rd-cousin, uncle, aunt, etc., been to jail?  Their DNA is taken, and it's close enough to yours to make an educated match.  A match that narrows the suspect pool from 1.5M to 150.

Granted, that's not the same as willingly given out your DNA, but at this point, what do we know for sure?  What is the government doing with that yearly $750B+ defense budget?  CIA might have swabbed half of Europe by now, for all we know.

How about facial recognition?  Has your laptop camera been activated remotely, without your knowledge, and the FBI has pix of your face from dozens of angles and lighting conditions.  CCTV making its way into our cities and suburbs.  We're not at London-level of CCTV...or are we?

Sleep well, citizen.
 
2 days ago  
I was an 8 year old kid in Visalia CA in 1975-76.  Lived on E Kaweah Ave with my mom and older brother.  My brother, my friends and I used to ride bikes and roam the neighborhood at will.  Free range children in the 70's...Anyway  I never knew about this until much later:
A criminal named the Visalia Ransacker was known in the area. Lot of breaking and entering finally a murder.  The guy, Joseph James DeAngelo, was later known as the Golden State Killer.

Around 8:30 p.m. on December 12, 1975,[20] a masked man entered the back yard of a house at 1505 W. Kaweah Avenue, near where the Ransacker had been reported to frequent.[21][22] When Detective William McGowen (on stakeout inside the garage) attempted to detain the man, the suspect shrieked, removed his mask, and feigned surrender after McGowen fired a warning shot.[22][23] However, after jumping the fence to house 1501, he also pulled out a revolver with his left hand, and fired once near McGowen's face, shattering his flashlight.[7] Nearby officers rushed to aid McGowen, and the shooter was able to escape.
 
2 days ago  

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: wee: Magnus: I know.  Good thing a crew of social workers tracked down this bastard.

When they interviewed the dude who was a sheriff investigating the case, you could see him sort of deflate when he started explaining his department's utter failure to protect the women in his community.

Didn't feel bad for the guy, since he was an utter farking failure and will die knowing he didn't stop women and girls from being raped because of politics. (Did feel bad for the ladies, especially the one who can't play piano anymore because she was raped at age 15 after he snuck up on her when she was playing.)

I never read a reason for why this guy was no longer a cop.

He must have been forced to either quite and at some point police departments would not hire him.

There must be a reason, and I suspect the police knew he was a killer years ago and told him quite the police department or they would send him to jail.


He was fired. I think he was caught shoplifting "burglary" tools or something down. In Sacramento. He was an Auburn cop during this-small foothill town (I grew up in) but he wasn't there long. Before that, he was a cop down in the Valley, Visalia or something, and it's now believed he was a notorious prowler operating in the Valley a few years before the East Area Rapist got started. He even served on a task force that was trying to catch this prowler.
And Auburn is a good 15-20 miles away from the East Area he operated in.

Plus, his physical and mental frailty is probably an act. The ex-cop who nailed him, Paul Holes, says he personally observed the guy actively working his yard and cruising his motorcycle like he was thirty years younger. His neighbors confirmed  this. He was a duck to them, but still mentally and physically sharp.

(Was working half a mile away the day they arrested him)
 
2 days ago  
I'm so, so glad they got this guy.  I watched the documentaries, and he sounds like every urban legend/suburban nightmare come to life.
 
2 days ago  
Also, one of the staggering things he did was apparently attend the town hall style meetings Sac PD was doing. At one of these meetings, some dude stood up and said the EAR was a coward because he only went after women alone. That guy and his wife were soon victims themselves. Suck, ballsy bastard.

I wonder if he was active in some way from 1980 to his capture. He had a long, long track record of attacks in a prett short time and then stopped completely? Granted, a couple of his last victims really put up and fight and maybe he though he couldn't handle it anymore. But someone that relentless doesn't just stop, do they?
 
2 days ago  

Your_Huckleberry: I wonder if he was active in some way from 1980 to his capture. He had a long, long track record of attacks in a prett short time and then stopped completely? Granted, a couple of his last victims really put up and fight and maybe he though he couldn't handle it anymore. But someone that relentless doesn't just stop, do they?


He committed a murder in 1981, then mysteriously stopped until a lone murder in 1986. During his spree and before DNA, his crimes were attributed to three different people, mostly due to geographical differences. Makes you wonder if he's responsible for more crimes during those missing years that just haven't been matched to him. Or it's possible that when he was no longer a cop and no longer had inside information to help him evade capture he just stopped.
 
2 days ago  

CruiserTwelve: Your_Huckleberry: I wonder if he was active in some way from 1980 to his capture. He had a long, long track record of attacks in a prett short time and then stopped completely? Granted, a couple of his last victims really put up and fight and maybe he though he couldn't handle it anymore. But someone that relentless doesn't just stop, do they?

He committed a murder in 1981, then mysteriously stopped until a lone murder in 1986. During his spree and before DNA, his crimes were attributed to three different people, mostly due to geographical differences. Makes you wonder if he's responsible for more crimes during those missing years that just haven't been matched to him. Or it's possible that when he was no longer a cop and no longer had inside information to help him evade capture he just stopped.


You're right. I forgot about 86. There was a big gap between his last and second to last attacks and then he just stopped.
 
2 days ago  

Your_Huckleberry: CruiserTwelve: Your_Huckleberry: I wonder if he was active in some way from 1980 to his capture. He had a long, long track record of attacks in a prett short time and then stopped completely? Granted, a couple of his last victims really put up and fight and maybe he though he couldn't handle it anymore. But someone that relentless doesn't just stop, do they?

He committed a murder in 1981, then mysteriously stopped until a lone murder in 1986. During his spree and before DNA, his crimes were attributed to three different people, mostly due to geographical differences. Makes you wonder if he's responsible for more crimes during those missing years that just haven't been matched to him. Or it's possible that when he was no longer a cop and no longer had inside information to help him evade capture he just stopped.

You're right. I forgot about 86. There was a big gap between his last and second to last attacks and then he just stopped.


And both of those occurred very close to the birth of his children.
 
2 days ago  
"DeAngelo was wearing orange jail scrubs and a plastic face shield to prevent possible spread of the virus. Temperatures were taken of everyone in the room and even the judge wore a mask when he wasn't speaking"

What the hell, judge? That's when you need to be wearing it.
 
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