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(BBC-US)   Everything just "HAS" to be bigger in Texas. Even the number of people infected with novel coronavirus   (bbc.com) divider line
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4 days ago  
sure, those numbers are "big" but florida will fight you for it.


i wish that was a joke. this is the worst contest ever.


and a populace treating COVID in the past tense isn't going to help.

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shirt spotted saturday. 10,000 new cases in a day is no big deal, it's actually nothing to worry about. right? RIGHT?
 
4 days ago  
I predict that two weeks after July 4th that it's going to be an absolute worst case scenario in red states.
 
4 days ago  
Why are filthy animals allowed to roam the streets with no mask on?
 
4 days ago  
It's a perspective thing. Up here way up on of my head, everything seems pretty big down there. But, you get your maw down in the nitty gritty, you start stacking log next to log, you learn Texas wasn't so big after all.
 
4 days ago  
Well the COVID fliiiies
Are gonna diiie
 
4 days ago  

puffy999: Well the COVID fliiiies
Are gonna diiie


Cough cough cough cough
 
4 days ago  
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4 days ago  
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I am not eager to take health advice from these men.
 
4 days ago  

Marcus Aurelius: Why are filthy animals allowed to roam the streets with no mask on?


Because the "Party of Personal Responsibility" has none.
 
4 days ago  
I keep saying it - it's all selfishness.

invent a mask that protects the person wearing it instead of the people around them, and you'd see near universal wearing tomorrow.
 
4 days ago  
" The media is blowing things out of proportion.

If I get it I will beat it.

Not that many people have died and the hospitals are not full.

Masks don't stop the virus and they are not about fighting disease.   They are about forcing compliance."

These are actual things I've had people say to me recently. It's an absolute wonder we're not all sick.

I get that a little bit of bravado and self-confidence and even self-deception can get one  through tough times in this life but the level of serious denial and delusion that I'm seeing is blowing my mind.

I say it too much, but the world really does blow my mind
 
4 days ago  

pkjun: [Fark user image image 850x478]

I am not eager to take health advice from these men.


"Ricola!!!!"
 
4 days ago  

Marcus Aurelius: Why are filthy animals allowed to roam the streets with no mask on?


Please don't think of masks as a panacea, no mater how scared you are. At best they bring some additional benefit of all other precautions - keeping your distance, frequent hand washing, isolating and so on - are in place but without these masks really don't make a great deal of difference.

Unfortunately it seems that "masks cure everything" vs "masks are an assault on my liberty" have become the latest battle lines in hopelessly partisan US politics.
 
4 days ago  
Reported over on electoral-vote.com today:

COVID-19 Hits Grim Milestones
The coronavirus is continuing to spread like wildfire. The number of cases of COVID-19 worldwide has now passed 10 million and the number of deaths worldwide is 500,000. In the U.S., the number of cases is 2.5 million and the number of deaths is 125,000. American exceptionalism is definitely visible in the data, as it is #1 worldwide in both categories, with twice as many cases and deaths as runner-up Brazil and roughly 30x as many cases and deaths as China, despite China having four times the population of the U.S. Maybe all of Donald Trump's tweets praising Chinese President Xi Jinping's leadership were on target after all.
The biggest hotspots in the U.S. are in Texas, Florida, and Arizona, all of which are likely to be swing states in November. But new cases are up in 36 states and down in only two, Connecticut and Rhode Island. They are stable in the others. The ICU at Texas' largest hospital, the Texas Medical Center in Houston, is full. People calling 911 to report a case of COVID-19 in Houston have to wait an hour to even get an operator. Fifty Houston firefighters have tested positive and 200 are in quarantine. Gov. Greg Abbott (R-TX) is gradually realizing that he has a problem on his hands and has politely asked people to wash their hands and wear masks in public. He also closed the state's bars. But he hasn't ordered any new restrictions.
Florida is also a problem, with 9,500 new cases on Saturday, another new record. yesterday there were another 8,500 new cases, but it is possible that reporting isn't complete because it was a Sunday. The number of new cases ever day is up fivefold from 2 weeks ago. The total number of cases there is now 133,000. Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) is still in denial. He said: "Really nothing has changed in the past week in terms of, we had a big test dump." Dr. Marissa Levine, a professor of public health at the University of South Florida, didn't exactly agree. Her comment: "Without doing anything differently, we're going to see tens of thousands of new cases every day in short order."
In Arizona, 87% of ICU beds are occupied. There were a record 3,600 cases reported Saturday and 3,900 on Sunday, for a total of over 70,000 so far. As in Florida, the governor, Doug Ducey (R), asked people to stay home if possible and wear masks if not possible, but didn't issue any binding orders. If restaurant staff comes down with COVID-19 in Arizona, the restaurant is legally allowed to stay open, and many have done so. There is not even a requirement to tell diners that a staff member has COVID-19, so contact tracing would be impossible, even if it were done, which it isn't.
For many people, the new rise in infections means that 4 months have been wasted. People have lost their jobs, their businesses, and more, and we are almost back to where we were in the beginning. It is beginning to appear that all those sacrifices were for nothing due to mismanagement at the very top. At some point people are going to be asking why they sacrificed so much for so little, and whose fault is it?
In short, we are nowhere near the end of this pandemic, the U.S. has managed it just about the worst of any country in the world, and large states with Republican governors are the worst in the U.S. Arizona and Florida are especially relevant politically, because both states have an abundance of seniors, many of whom are not happy about how the federal and state governments are handling the crisis, and who may express their discontent at the polls in November (or at a mailbox in October). Currently, we have Joe Biden ahead by 9 points in Florida and 5 in Arizona. Together those states have 40 electoral votes. Arizona has a strong history of absentee voting although Florida does not. If the 2020 results are identical to the 2016 results except for Florida and Arizona turning blue, then Biden gets 272 electoral votes and becomes #46 (assuming there are no faithless electors). We expect to hear from the Supreme Court on that topic this week. Also on abortion and Trump's tax returns. (V)
 
4 days ago  
We're going to run out of doctors and nurses soon, and frankly, we deserve it.
 
4 days ago  

pkjun: [Fark user image 850x478]

I am not eager to take health advice from these men.


Re: the guy on the left wearing the "Snowflakes" shirt, why is it that the people who rattle on and on about "Libby snowflakes" are always the thinnest-skinned people around (with the President being Patient Zero)? I swear it's like they're overcompensating for their personal insecurities by just trying to show how tough they are only to break  down the instant they're challenged by anything in life.
 
4 days ago  

orbister: Marcus Aurelius: Why are filthy animals allowed to roam the streets with no mask on?

Please don't think of masks as a panacea, no mater how scared you are. At best they bring some additional benefit of all other precautions - keeping your distance, frequent hand washing, isolating and so on - are in place but without these masks really don't make a great deal of difference.

Unfortunately it seems that "masks cure everything" vs "masks are an assault on my liberty" have become the latest battle lines in hopelessly partisan US politics.


Masks don't do much for the person wearing them, but cut the transmission rate by 70% if the asymptomatic-infected person is wearing them.

There's no bothsides here. Libs are neither saying "masks cure everything" nor is mask-wearing an unreasonable request. If you go out, you should wear a mask, because you cannot know if you are asymptomatic or presymptomatic, and mask-wearing will significantly decrease your odds of giving someone else a disease that might kill them or (through them) their loved ones.
 
4 days ago  

havocmike: I keep saying it - it's all selfishness.

invent a mask that protects the person wearing it instead of the people around them, and you'd see near universal wearing tomorrow.


They have those, we call them N100 masks.
 
4 days ago  

Glitchwerks: I predict that two weeks after July 4th that it's going to be an absolute worst case scenario in red states.


It will be a lot worse and sooner than that.
Most of them are already nearing the per capita infection rate that NY had at the "peak".
Arizona in particular, is completely farked.
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4 days ago  
Last month you lemmings screamed that FL and TX needed to do more testing.

This month...Look at those tests!!!

Idiots.
 
4 days ago  

orbister: Marcus Aurelius: Why are filthy animals allowed to roam the streets with no mask on?

Please don't think of masks as a panacea, no mater how scared you are. At best they bring some additional benefit of all other precautions - keeping your distance, frequent hand washing, isolating and so on - are in place but without these masks really don't make a great deal of difference.

Unfortunately it seems that "masks cure everything" vs "masks are an assault on my liberty" have become the latest battle lines in hopelessly partisan US politics.


I don't know anyone who advocates masks that also doesn't advocate proper social distancing, etc. I do know people that grudgingly wear masks out of social obligation or because they're required (a few people at my office, for example), and they often don't care about the other aspects. But totally agree that no one should be advocating for masking as a substitute for those other things (in the "pee and pants" analogy meme often used for masks, if you also stay 6 feet away from the serial urinator, WITH pants, you're even less likely to get wet).
 
4 days ago  
I don't get it. It's like protesting seatbelts infringe on your freedom to die.
 
4 days ago  

pkjun: Masks don't do much for the person wearing them, but cut the transmission rate by 70% if the asymptomatic-infected person is wearing them.

There's no bothsides here. Libs are neither saying "masks cure everything" nor is mask-wearing an unreasonable request. If you go out, you should wear a mask, because you cannot know if you are asymptomatic or presymptomatic, and mask-wearing will significantly decrease your odds of giving someone else a disease that might kill them or (through them) their loved ones.


Have a you a source for that 70% as a factor independent of distancing and other behaviour? Here in Scotland we are down to a handful of new cases per day and no deaths for five days, and masks are only required on public transport. While it certainly seem that they have some benefits, the impression I get from fark is that the left has adopted them as something to scream at the right about. And vice versa.
Or to put it another way, it is very odd the way the left bangs on and on about masks without mentioning the other things that need to happen before masks become worthwhile.
 
4 days ago  

G. Tarrant: orbister: Marcus Aurelius: Why are filthy animals allowed to roam the streets with no mask on?

Please don't think of masks as a panacea, no mater how scared you are. At best they bring some additional benefit of all other precautions - keeping your distance, frequent hand washing, isolating and so on - are in place but without these masks really don't make a great deal of difference.

Unfortunately it seems that "masks cure everything" vs "masks are an assault on my liberty" have become the latest battle lines in hopelessly partisan US politics.

I don't know anyone who advocates masks that also doesn't advocate proper social distancing, etc. I do know people that grudgingly wear masks out of social obligation or because they're required (a few people at my office, for example), and they often don't care about the other aspects. But totally agree that no one should be advocating for masking as a substitute for those other things (in the "pee and pants" analogy meme often used for masks, if you also stay 6 feet away from the serial urinator, WITH pants, you're even less likely to get wet).


Thanks - that was what I was grasping at, less clearly. Ah well, we shall see. The US is still at half the UK deaths per million. but all our curves are going down now ...
 
4 days ago  

orbister: pkjun: Masks don't do much for the person wearing them, but cut the transmission rate by 70% if the asymptomatic-infected person is wearing them.

There's no bothsides here. Libs are neither saying "masks cure everything" nor is mask-wearing an unreasonable request. If you go out, you should wear a mask, because you cannot know if you are asymptomatic or presymptomatic, and mask-wearing will significantly decrease your odds of giving someone else a disease that might kill them or (through them) their loved ones.

Have a you a source for that 70% as a factor independent of distancing and other behaviour? Here in Scotland we are down to a handful of new cases per day and no deaths for five days, and masks are only required on public transport. While it certainly seem that they have some benefits, the impression I get from fark is that the left has adopted them as something to scream at the right about. And vice versa.
Or to put it another way, it is very odd the way the left bangs on and on about masks without mentioning the other things that need to happen before masks become worthwhile.


Since both masks and social distancing help independently, you can get the same result different ways, using either or both. Also, the more people that are infected, the more a mask will help.

WEAR A MASK.
 
4 days ago  

orbister: pkjun: Masks don't do much for the person wearing them, but cut the transmission rate by 70% if the asymptomatic-infected person is wearing them.

There's no bothsides here. Libs are neither saying "masks cure everything" nor is mask-wearing an unreasonable request. If you go out, you should wear a mask, because you cannot know if you are asymptomatic or presymptomatic, and mask-wearing will significantly decrease your odds of giving someone else a disease that might kill them or (through them) their loved ones.

Have a you a source for that 70% as a factor independent of distancing and other behaviour? Here in Scotland we are down to a handful of new cases per day and no deaths for five days, and masks are only required on public transport. While it certainly seem that they have some benefits, the impression I get from fark is that the left has adopted them as something to scream at the right about. And vice versa.
Or to put it another way, it is very odd the way the left bangs on and on about masks without mentioning the other things that need to happen before masks become worthwhile.


Many factors. So many businesses here were deemed "essential" that the virus continued to stampede through the community even with a supposed shut down. Half assed measure gave half assed results.

Media and internet tend to focus on bars and parties but here the majority of cases are in the Hispanic community that work jobs that didn't shut down, didn't have adequate worker protections.
 
4 days ago  

Don't Lag Me Bro: I don't get it. It's like protesting seatbelts infringe on your freedom to die.


good analogy. i've been trying to think of a short and sweet one i could tell people IRL. my brain's been stuck on "this is a health issue, not politics. if you cut yourself and were gushing blood would you "protest" a bandage or stitches to "assert your freedom"? why?"

but that doesn't get to the idea of that gushing blood maybe killing everyone it splashes.

the reality that "trying to stop a potentially deadly illness" is now "politics" in america makes me both rage and cry.

in the 40 and early 50's (pre-vaccine) were there american parents screaming "f*ck you polio! are you even real? i do what i want! i'm happy to maybe kill my kids and yours too! i wouldn't stop this illness if i could!" ?

somehow i think not.
 
4 days ago  

orbister: pkjun: Masks don't do much for the person wearing them, but cut the transmission rate by 70% if the asymptomatic-infected person is wearing them.

There's no bothsides here. Libs are neither saying "masks cure everything" nor is mask-wearing an unreasonable request. If you go out, you should wear a mask, because you cannot know if you are asymptomatic or presymptomatic, and mask-wearing will significantly decrease your odds of giving someone else a disease that might kill them or (through them) their loved ones.

Have a you a source for that 70% as a factor independent of distancing and other behaviour? Here in Scotland we are down to a handful of new cases per day and no deaths for five days, and masks are only required on public transport. While it certainly seem that they have some benefits, the impression I get from fark is that the left has adopted them as something to scream at the right about. And vice versa.
Or to put it another way, it is very odd the way the left bangs on and on about masks without mentioning the other things that need to happen before masks become worthwhile.


Largely because Americans have already shown they give fark all about personal space and social distancing.  You can easily require people to wear masks or be fined.  You can not easily monitor people to make sure they avoid walking within 6 inches of someone's face to ask a question.

Are masks better with distancing?  Yes.  Do they help when people are not distancing?  Also yes.
 
4 days ago  

luna1580: Don't Lag Me Bro: I don't get it. It's like protesting seatbelts infringe on your freedom to die.

good analogy. i've been trying to think of a short and sweet one i could tell people IRL. my brain's been stuck on "this is a health issue, not politics. if you cut yourself and were gushing blood would you "protest" a bandage or stitches to "assert your freedom"? why?"

but that doesn't get to the idea of that gushing blood maybe killing everyone it splashes.

the reality that "trying to stop a potentially deadly illness" is now "politics" in america makes me both rage and cry.

in the 40 and early 50's (pre-vaccine) were there american parents screaming "f*ck you polio! are you even real? i do what i want! i'm happy to maybe kill my kids and yours too! i wouldn't stop this illness if i could!" ?

somehow i think not.


It's rather like drunk driving.. it's not just you that you'll kill.
 
4 days ago  
I could say something about treating people who refuse to wear masks because of freedoms start being treated like the walking dead because those people are actively trying to spread a virus. However I don't think people would be comfortable with my feelings in that regard so I just avoid those people all together as best I can.
 
4 days ago  
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way to wear that snowflake shirt ironically, hipster
 
4 days ago  

havocmike: I keep saying it - it's all selfishness.

invent a mask that protects the person wearing it instead of the people around them, and you'd see near universal wearing tomorrow.


Like the plastic face shields?
 
4 days ago  

G. Tarrant: pkjun: [Fark user image 850x478]

I am not eager to take health advice from these men.

Re: the guy on the left wearing the "Snowflakes" shirt, why is it that the people who rattle on and on about "Libby snowflakes" are always the thinnest-skinned people around (with the President being Patient Zero)? I swear it's like they're overcompensating for their personal insecurities by just trying to show how tough they are only to break  down the instant they're challenged by anything in life.


Every accusation is a confession.
 
4 days ago  

Alphax: luna1580: Don't Lag Me Bro: I don't get it. It's like protesting seatbelts infringe on your freedom to die.

good analogy. i've been trying to think of a short and sweet one i could tell people IRL. my brain's been stuck on "this is a health issue, not politics. if you cut yourself and were gushing blood would you "protest" a bandage or stitches to "assert your freedom"? why?"

but that doesn't get to the idea of that gushing blood maybe killing everyone it splashes.

the reality that "trying to stop a potentially deadly illness" is now "politics" in america makes me both rage and cry.

in the 40 and early 50's (pre-vaccine) were there american parents screaming "f*ck you polio! are you even real? i do what i want! i'm happy to maybe kill my kids and yours too! i wouldn't stop this illness if i could!" ?

somehow i think not.

It's rather like drunk driving.. it's not just you that you'll kill.


Sounds like we know what to do then...

Not wearing mask in public

1st offense: 5000$ fine, education/counseling

2nd offense: 10000$ fine, counseling, 3 to 90 days in prison

3rd offense: 25000$ fine, 2 to 5 years in prison.

Exact Time in prison determined by # you contacted and likely infected
 
4 days ago  

Alphax: luna1580: Don't Lag Me Bro: I don't get it. It's like protesting seatbelts infringe on your freedom to die.

good analogy. i've been trying to think of a short and sweet one i could tell people IRL. my brain's been stuck on "this is a health issue, not politics. if you cut yourself and were gushing blood would you "protest" a bandage or stitches to "assert your freedom"? why?"

but that doesn't get to the idea of that gushing blood maybe killing everyone it splashes.

the reality that "trying to stop a potentially deadly illness" is now "politics" in america makes me both rage and cry.

in the 40 and early 50's (pre-vaccine) were there american parents screaming "f*ck you polio! are you even real? i do what i want! i'm happy to maybe kill my kids and yours too! i wouldn't stop this illness if i could!" ?

somehow i think not.

It's rather like drunk driving.. it's not just you that you'll kill.


aye. drunk driving without a seat belt or airbags.

the problem is that argument won't work in florida, plenty of retirees/young locals see zero problem with drunk driving/boating. after all, THEY'RE always careful and haven't killed anybody yet...
 
4 days ago  

Don't Lag Me Bro: I don't get it. It's like protesting seatbelts infringe on your freedom to die.


The seat belts in the 89 cars had to be automatic because people wouldn't wear them.  Those automatic belts were responsible for lots of head trauma and went away.  The stupid is strong with the human race.
 
4 days ago  
I don't know the exact numbers on chances of getting COVID in the general public when wearing a mask.

However, I will say that I have been treating mostly COVID patients since March, and the only thing that has kept me and the rest of our nursing staff from getting sick has been proper, consistent mask usage. We use N95s now, but for the first few weeks, there were no N95s, so we just used regular surgical masks the same we do for other respiratory viruses including influenza. Social distancing is not an option. The mask is our single, only most effective defense against COVID.

We also wear a face shield or goggles to protect against transmission via the eye, though I'm not sure what the rate of infection by that route is. We certainly don't take these precautions with other respiratory viruses including influenza.

As far as I'm concerned, with similar equipment (i.e. not cloth masks), there is no reason that the general public should not see a near-zero rate of transmission with proper mask usage. The difference is that people get complacent. And I still see plenty of masks worn with the nose uncovered. And I still see plenty of surgical masks with the metal band at the top left uncrimped.
 
4 days ago  

Leader O'Cola: Alphax: luna1580: Don't Lag Me Bro: I don't get it. It's like protesting seatbelts infringe on your freedom to die.

good analogy. i've been trying to think of a short and sweet one i could tell people IRL. my brain's been stuck on "this is a health issue, not politics. if you cut yourself and were gushing blood would you "protest" a bandage or stitches to "assert your freedom"? why?"

but that doesn't get to the idea of that gushing blood maybe killing everyone it splashes.

the reality that "trying to stop a potentially deadly illness" is now "politics" in america makes me both rage and cry.

in the 40 and early 50's (pre-vaccine) were there american parents screaming "f*ck you polio! are you even real? i do what i want! i'm happy to maybe kill my kids and yours too! i wouldn't stop this illness if i could!" ?

somehow i think not.

It's rather like drunk driving.. it's not just you that you'll kill.

Sounds like we know what to do then...

Not wearing mask in public

1st offense: 5000$ fine, education/counseling

2nd offense: 10000$ fine, counseling, 3 to 90 days in prison

3rd offense: 25000$ fine, 2 to 5 years in prison.

Exact Time in prison determined by # you contacted and likely infected


And manslaughter charges if anyone dies as a result.
 
4 days ago  

Leader O'Cola: Glitchwerks: I predict that two weeks after July 4th that it's going to be an absolute worst case scenario in red states.

It will be a lot worse and sooner than that.
Most of them are already nearing the per capita infection rate that NY had at the "peak".
Arizona in particular, is completely farked.
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Bear in mind you're looking at *new cases.*  It'll take a couple weeks for deaths to swing up, and then another week or two for deaths to accumulate to New York levels.   After that, it will likely get horrific.

I'm only disagreeing with the timeline.  Two weeks after july 4, or maybe a little longer, is when Florida is likely to pass New York in total deaths.  "the south" overall will pass that milestone sooner, but that's not the "worst case" let alone "a lot worse than the worst case".

For worst case per capita, yeah, look to Arizona.  Their ICUs are already bursting, so their mortality rate is going to skyrocket to Lombardy levels.  (Lombardy had 18% CFR)
 
4 days ago  

IHateHipHop: I don't know the exact numbers on chances of getting COVID in the general public when wearing a mask.

However, I will say that I have been treating mostly COVID patients since March, and the only thing that has kept me and the rest of our nursing staff from getting sick has been proper, consistent mask usage. We use N95s now, but for the first few weeks, there were no N95s, so we just used regular surgical masks the same we do for other respiratory viruses including influenza. Social distancing is not an option. The mask is our single, only most effective defense against COVID.

We also wear a face shield or goggles to protect against transmission via the eye, though I'm not sure what the rate of infection by that route is. We certainly don't take these precautions with other respiratory viruses including influenza.

As far as I'm concerned, with similar equipment (i.e. not cloth masks), there is no reason that the general public should not see a near-zero rate of transmission with proper mask usage. The difference is that people get complacent. And I still see plenty of masks worn with the nose uncovered. And I still see plenty of surgical masks with the metal band at the top left uncrimped.


Thank you for all that you do. I hope you all remain healthy and stay safe as possible.
 
4 days ago  
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4 days ago  

mofa: We're going to run out of doctors and nurses soon, and frankly, we deserve it.


We decided "the rules" were more important than letting an obvious criminal megalomaniac run the country, and we're paying the price.
 
4 days ago  

nartreb: Leader O'Cola: Glitchwerks: I predict that two weeks after July 4th that it's going to be an absolute worst case scenario in red states.

It will be a lot worse and sooner than that.
Most of them are already nearing the per capita infection rate that NY had at the "peak".
Arizona in particular, is completely farked.
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Bear in mind you're looking at *new cases.*  It'll take a couple weeks for deaths to swing up, and then another week or two for deaths to accumulate to New York levels.   After that, it will likely get horrific.

I'm only disagreeing with the timeline.  Two weeks after july 4, or maybe a little longer, is when Florida is likely to pass New York in total deaths.  "the south" overall will pass that milestone sooner, but that's not the "worst case" let alone "a lot worse than the worst case".

For worst case per capita, yeah, look to Arizona.  Their ICUs are already bursting, so their mortality rate is going to skyrocket to Lombardy levels.  (Lombardy had 18% CFR)


You're not wrong per se, but my point was NY was already starting to mitigate before and during the peak. AZ has done nothing, my bet is that by Friday I need to reset the color scale to max at -2.5
 
4 days ago  

Glitchwerks: I predict that two weeks after July 4th that it's going to be an absolute worst case scenario in red states.


Good. More votes for Biden
 
4 days ago  

Sean VasDeferens: Last month you lemmings screamed that FL and TX needed to do more testing.

This month...Look at those tests!!!

Idiots.


If we ignore it it will just go away, right?
 
4 days ago  

Marcus Aurelius: Why are filthy animals allowed to roam the streets with no mask on?


Because muh free dumbs
 
4 days ago  

Don't Lag Me Bro: I don't get it. It's like protesting seatbelts infringe on your freedom to die.


I'm old enough to remember when seatbelts weren't required. When the law was changed, there were indeed people that argued that it infringed on their freedom. I had a guy tell me a story of someone who was in an accident, and supposedly was able to escape from their car before it caught on fire because they weren't wearing a seatbelt. The difference between then and now is back then there wasn't an internet to allow idiots to easily find each other, spread misinformation, and organize.
 
4 days ago  

Tyrone Slothrop: Don't Lag Me Bro: I don't get it. It's like protesting seatbelts infringe on your freedom to die.

I'm old enough to remember when seatbelts weren't required. When the law was changed, there were indeed people that argued that it infringed on their freedom. I had a guy tell me a story of someone who was in an accident, and supposedly was able to escape from their car before it caught on fire because they weren't wearing a seatbelt. The difference between then and now is back then there wasn't an internet to allow idiots to easily find each other, spread misinformation, and organize.


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4 days ago  

luna1580: Don't Lag Me Bro: I don't get it. It's like protesting seatbelts infringe on your freedom to die.

good analogy. i've been trying to think of a short and sweet one i could tell people IRL. my brain's been stuck on "this is a health issue, not politics. if you cut yourself and were gushing blood would you "protest" a bandage or stitches to "assert your freedom"? why?"

but that doesn't get to the idea of that gushing blood maybe killing everyone it splashes.

the reality that "trying to stop a potentially deadly illness" is now "politics" in america makes me both rage and cry.

in the 40 and early 50's (pre-vaccine) were there american parents screaming "f*ck you polio! are you even real? i do what i want! i'm happy to maybe kill my kids and yours too! i wouldn't stop this illness if i could!" ?

somehow i think not.


They would have if "social media" existed back then.
 
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Animatronik: Since both masks and social distancing help independently


And that's the problem, right there. Without social distancing, the additional contribution of masks is tiny. Far too many people think they have similar effectiveness.
 
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