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2020-06-27 4:55:19 PM  
At least $200k... lotta mods on that, commo gear. That's an expensive toy.
 
2020-06-27 5:48:24 PM  
Why does it have drone detection?
 
2020-06-27 5:53:02 PM  

rwhamann: Why does it have drone detection?


Why does it have a radiation monitoring system?
 
2020-06-27 6:12:34 PM  

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: rwhamann: Why does it have drone detection?

Why does it have a radiation monitoring system?


Because IslamoDirtyBombs, duh.
 
2020-06-27 6:25:20 PM  
Libraries are front line homeless resources, by starving them of cash the homeless issues will rise, which the police end up dealing with because nobody else gets funding to do it, resulting in the police arguing that their budget needs to be increased.

And so on, and so on, and so on...
 
2020-06-27 6:31:23 PM  

rwhamann: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: rwhamann: Why does it have drone detection?

Why does it have a radiation monitoring system?

Because IslamoDirtyBombs, duh.


You get the Tennessean too?
 
2020-06-27 7:02:22 PM  
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2020-06-27 8:01:54 PM  
Books?  You mean those things you can download from the internet?
 
2020-06-27 8:29:57 PM  
Each time you encounter the NYTimes or WaPo or whatever news site begging you to subscribe or turn on ads, just imagine if your local library had the funds to allow remote-access subscriptions to all of them instead of more unnecessary stockpiles of police bullshiat.
 
2020-06-27 9:08:49 PM  
'Murica.
 
2020-06-27 9:16:55 PM  

8 inches: Books?  You mean those things you can download from the internet?


Well you can, and I can, but there's plenty of people who can't afford to pay 70 bucks a month for bandwidth who therefore can't.

You're being a stereotype of a shiathead I-got-mine conservative.

Again.
 
2020-06-27 9:44:03 PM  
Knightboat: The Crime Solving Boat
Youtube uoV1-fsFCmw
 
2020-06-27 10:51:45 PM  
Perfect, now they can be the grand marshal of the Trump boat parade
 
2020-06-27 10:53:02 PM  
Obligatory "I hate this timeline" post.

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2020-06-27 10:53:17 PM  
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2020-06-27 10:53:30 PM  
Drone detection > race relations.

It's just economics.
 
2020-06-27 10:55:10 PM  

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lulz
 
2020-06-27 10:57:26 PM  

8 inches: Books?  You mean those things you can download from the internet?


whatever, n00b

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2020-06-27 10:57:53 PM  

phaseolus: 8 inches: Books?  You mean those things you can download from the internet?

Well you can, and I can, but there's plenty of people who can't afford to pay 70 bucks a month for bandwidth who therefore can't.

You're being a stereotype of a shiathead I-got-mine conservative.

Again.


I can't find it, but there was a great quote about libraries.  Something along the lines of "libraries are one of the last places in our society where you aren't required to spend money".
 
2020-06-27 10:58:21 PM  

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: rwhamann: Why does it have drone detection?

Why does it have a radiation monitoring system?


Guarantee there's DHS grant funding here. Probably Operation Stonegarden or UASI.
 
2020-06-27 10:59:17 PM  
It's certified for offshore use?!?  Are they gonna chase a perp down the Ohio River, into the Mississippi, then out to the Gulf of Mexico?
 
2020-06-27 10:59:56 PM  

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: rwhamann: Why does it have drone detection?

Why does it have a radiation monitoring system?


That made me click because I was hoping for details. What instruments? Most civilians have ZERO idea how to use radiation monitoring gear. It's a specialty of my profession. I'm a radiation safety tech for ten years now (ansi 3.1, now radiation control at a government lab) and my federal qualifications say I am recognized for being able to actually interpret data from a wide array of instrumentation.

Cops don't have that training. Its been my VERY limited experience that a lot of emergency responders are actually drastically WORSE because they think they know stuff and they are worse than clueless. Either way, the police are NOT trained in radiation monitoring gear.

And it's FREAKING EXPENSIVE AND FRAGILE, and massively vulnerable to heat and humidity with very rare exception. They have this shiat. Outside. On a boat.

You're supposed to check gear on a regular basis. Daily is normal, or every time before use. Who the fark in the police department is going out with a radioactive source to see if the boat's detectors aren't rotted by water exposure?

/gets dragged off before I start pounding a table
 
2020-06-27 11:01:13 PM  
So what the hell does the Coast Guard do anymore?
 
2020-06-27 11:03:24 PM  
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Who's the best cop now!!!!!
 
2020-06-27 11:04:55 PM  
The police raided the house across the street from me and had an "MRAP," which is to say the same vehicle I drove around Baghdad for 15 months. Last time I checked there aren't any damn IED's lining the roads around shiat ass Kitsap country Washington. Glad they all had body armor and M4's , just in case Uday and Qusay Hussein are housing out in the house or something? But yeah, let's give them more money.
 
2020-06-27 11:05:48 PM  

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2020-06-27 11:07:32 PM  

Barfmaker: Libraries are front line homeless resources, by starving them of cash the homeless issues will rise, which the police end up dealing with because nobody else gets funding to do it, resulting in the police arguing that their budget needs to be increased.

And so on, and so on, and so on...


I work in library IT.  You're not wrong.
 
2020-06-27 11:08:58 PM  

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: rwhamann: Why does it have drone detection?

Why does it have a radiation monitoring system?


I can believe that because the Nuke Plants in the TVA are on lakes, which this boat will be used on, it doesn't hurt to have a non-biased (read Non-TVA) reading.

/giving them a huge benefit of the doubt
 
2020-06-27 11:10:10 PM  

Rucker10: there aren't any damn IED's lining the roads around shiat ass Kitsap country Washington.


Be the change you want to see in the world.  If they want to feel like a hostile occupying army untethered to civilian oversigt, then they should get treated like one.

/I never did renounce that oath about "...and domestic".
 
2020-06-27 11:10:43 PM  

8 inches: Books?  You mean those things you can download from the internet?


I hate to break this to you, but books aren't free on the internet.  Well, unless they were written before 1925.
 
2020-06-27 11:10:54 PM  

LeoffDaGrate: So what the hell does the Coast Guard do anymore?


It gives Diane Neal something to do:
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2020-06-27 11:10:58 PM  
Why are posters talking about the Tennessean and TVA when Louisville is on the North side of KY?
 
2020-06-27 11:11:45 PM  

oldweasel: Why are posters talking about the Tennessean and TVA when Louisville is on the North side of KY?


If there are no Nuke plants on lakes in KY, disregard my benefit of the doubt.
 
2020-06-27 11:12:41 PM  

Barfmaker: Libraries are front line homeless resources, by starving them of cash the homeless issues will rise, which the police end up dealing with because nobody else gets funding to do it, resulting in the police arguing that their budget needs to be increased.

And so on, and so on, and so on...


Sounds like police job security to me.
 
2020-06-27 11:13:52 PM  

ColonelCathcart: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: rwhamann: Why does it have drone detection?

Why does it have a radiation monitoring system?

I can believe that because the Nuke Plants in the TVA are on lakes, which this boat will be used on, it doesn't hurt to have a non-biased (read Non-TVA) reading.

/giving them a huge benefit of the doubt


This boat is going to be used on the Ohio, there aren't any lakes in Jefferson county
 
2020-06-27 11:14:11 PM  

ColonelCathcart: I can believe that because the Nuke Plants in the TVA are on lakes, which this boat will be used on, it doesn't hurt to have a non-biased (read Non-TVA) reading.

/giving them a huge benefit of the doubt


Know what's more effective if something happens?

Getting the power plant to put one of their emergency response radiation protection techs on a boat to go have a look around. And maybe an environmental monitoring person to help with water sampling.

Both of these people know what they're looking at on the instruments. They can read the data. The cops shouldn't be entering an area that is suspect in the first place. They should secure the outer limit while actual competent people work. Everyone else runs AWAY from the radioactive problem, radiation techs run TOWARD. That is how this works.

Radiation techs are, in extremis, the nuclear/radioactive equivalent of firemen. If there's other personnel that must go in, they may walk beside us BUT NEVER AHEAD, because we're the ones making sure they don't walk into something that will kill their fool asses.

Meanwhile, people with zero experience with radiation/contamination monitor gear have a shiatting panic attack when it passively chirps once to itself.

/I had to answer a call on Friday for exactly that, can you tell?
//"IT BEEPED AT ME!" "...what a lot, or?" "TWICE!"
///For context, "bip... bip..." is an instrument doing instrument things, REEEEEEEEE is trouble times, typically
 
2020-06-27 11:14:16 PM  

FightDirector: Rucker10: there aren't any damn IED's lining the roads around shiat ass Kitsap country Washington.

Be the change you want to see in the world.  If they want to feel like a hostile occupying army untethered to civilian oversigt, then they should get treated like one.

/I never did renounce that oath about "...and domestic".


I'd never do that. But I'd laugh my ass off if somebody did. Maybe that makes me asshole, but if they feel like they need all that shiat they should earn it.
 
2020-06-27 11:15:09 PM  

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: ColonelCathcart: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: rwhamann: Why does it have drone detection?

Why does it have a radiation monitoring system?

I can believe that because the Nuke Plants in the TVA are on lakes, which this boat will be used on, it doesn't hurt to have a non-biased (read Non-TVA) reading.

/giving them a huge benefit of the doubt

This boat is going to be used on the Ohio, there aren't any lakes in Jefferson county


Ok, so do we give them the benefit of the doubt on the radiation detection?

Either way, this is disgusting. Rednecks with faxpayer funded toys while their schools and state rots from the inside.
 
2020-06-27 11:15:41 PM  

8 inches: Books?  You mean those things you can download from the internet?


Not if you don't have the internet and need to go to the library to get on-line.
 
2020-06-27 11:16:30 PM  
Final note: most radiation monitoring gear is high voltage/low amperage so they just have high voltage gear strapped to a god damn boat.

/yes, some monitor probes are waterproof, like RO7s or waterproofed AMP100 probes
//but the detectors and cords? hahahah oh god let's just not
///has been electrocuted by shorting 9V on an AMP100 destined for water use
 
2020-06-27 11:17:07 PM  

LeoffDaGrate: So what the hell does the Coast Guard do anymore?


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2020-06-27 11:17:33 PM  

8 inches: Books?  You mean those things you can download from the internet?


The Louisville Free Public Library offers ebooks in addition to physical books, among other things classes, activities and research assistance
 
2020-06-27 11:20:55 PM  

NewportBarGuy: At least $200k... lotta mods on that, commo gear. That's an expensive toy.


A used 27' coast guard safeboat with full popo equipment runs maybe 300k afaik at the most. That's with new outboards and new equipment. The rest of that type of boat is indestructible and repairable.

https://www.boattrader.com/boats/make​-​safe/

The article suggests it is a new build and who knows what overpaying went into the thing. I'd certainly hope it isn't 700k.
 
2020-06-27 11:24:35 PM  

Ringshadow: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: rwhamann: Why does it have drone detection?

Why does it have a radiation monitoring system?

That made me click because I was hoping for details. What instruments? Most civilians have ZERO idea how to use radiation monitoring gear. It's a specialty of my profession. I'm a radiation safety tech for ten years now (ansi 3.1, now radiation control at a government lab) and my federal qualifications say I am recognized for being able to actually interpret data from a wide array of instrumentation.

Cops don't have that training. Its been my VERY limited experience that a lot of emergency responders are actually drastically WORSE because they think they know stuff and they are worse than clueless. Either way, the police are NOT trained in radiation monitoring gear.

And it's FREAKING EXPENSIVE AND FRAGILE, and massively vulnerable to heat and humidity with very rare exception. They have this shiat. Outside. On a boat.

You're supposed to check gear on a regular basis. Daily is normal, or every time before use. Who the fark in the police department is going out with a radioactive source to see if the boat's detectors aren't rotted by water exposure?

/gets dragged off before I start pounding a table


They probably just tossed them a few PRDs, maybe something that gives an isotope guess, and described it generously.
 
2020-06-27 11:28:21 PM  

Smackledorfer: They probably just tossed them a few PRDs, maybe something that gives an isotope guess, and described it generously.


Gotta admit I hadn't heard PRD before, adding that to my personal lexicon of alphabet soup.

That said googling it pulled up the RadEye, and let me tell you I love RadEyes (they're stalwart little buggars and cheap to boot), but I feel like that doesn't really solve my main problems, namely not believing the end users in this case have sufficient training, and doubting the regularity of operational checks versus radioactive sources.

Still feels more effective to put an RP tech and an environmental tech on the boat.
 
2020-06-27 11:31:15 PM  
 
2020-06-27 11:34:26 PM  
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Here's hoping this happens with their new toy.
 
2020-06-27 11:37:46 PM  

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Here's hoping this happens with their new toy.


I don't think there's much danger of that on the Ohio unless they attempt a landing at the Great Lawn when it's flooded
 
2020-06-27 11:37:52 PM  

Ringshadow: Smackledorfer: They probably just tossed them a few PRDs, maybe something that gives an isotope guess, and described it generously.

Gotta admit I hadn't heard PRD before, adding that to my personal lexicon of alphabet soup.

That said googling it pulled up the RadEye, and let me tell you I love RadEyes (they're stalwart little buggars and cheap to boot), but I feel like that doesn't really solve my main problems, namely not believing the end users in this case have sufficient training, and doubting the regularity of operational checks versus radioactive sources.

Still feels more effective to put an RP tech and an environmental tech on the boat.


Prd is personal radiation detector. The one I've used was much cheaper looking than that radeye you refer to.

You'd strap it to your belt and it'd beep if it detects something. It gives the millirems or whatever, I forget, and gives a 1-10 number.  The training is as follows:

If ten, GTFO until you are at a 9. Follow SIN procedure.  (Secure, isolate, notify). I think you can be "safe" in a 9 for a short bit.  Get back to an 8 from there. If anything from 2-7, try to figure out the source. Report all 2+ readings, but quickly say fark it because the goddamn cement is a 2-3 in places, and not a dreaded dirty bomb shielded down to a 3. The rest is just not harassing cancer patients and medical transport.

Which means the whole thing is mostly shenanigans so some clown can equip half the government with them and pretend they contributed to preventing the next 9/11. All likely suggested by a connected manufacturer who convinces people we all need a new toy to be safe.

Now I wouldn't call staff bringing those to a boat the boat "being equipped with mobile radiation detection" but I suppose it is technically true.
 
2020-06-27 11:39:06 PM  

Barfmaker: Libraries are front line homeless resources, by starving them of cash the homeless issues will rise, which the police end up dealing with because nobody else gets funding to do it, resulting in the police arguing that their budget needs to be increased.

And so on, and so on, and so on...


They are also major resource for   a substantial chunk of the housed population as well.  Ms Gough and I did science outreach to rural/underserved communities for the last 15 years, often doing programs in local libraries.  Until then, I hadn't realize what an amazing resource they had become.  Internet access, youth and adult literacy programs, nutrition and budgeting classes, after-school programs, etc,  In many of the communities where we worked, the local library had become the de facto community center.
 
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