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(The Hill)   Short answer: Yes. Long answer: A "yes" so long it winds up sounding like I have a slow leak   (thehill.com) divider line
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4227 clicks; posted to Politics » on 27 Jun 2020 at 11:50 PM (6 days ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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6 days ago  
"Sounds like steam escaping..." - Dom DeLuise in Blazing Saddles
 
Xai [TotalFark] [BareFark]
6 days ago  
Becoming?
 
6 days ago  

Xai: Becoming?


If you're white, it's not quite there yet.
 
6 days ago  
It's becoming an anarchy State.

We need MORE police.

/I sound like a law abiding citizen, the lowest form of scum according to Farkers.
 
6 days ago  

8 inches: It's becoming an anarchy State.

We need MORE police.

/I sound like a law abiding citizen, the lowest form of scum according to Farkers.


No trolls on fark
 
6 days ago  

8 inches: It's becoming an anarchy State.

We need MORE police.

/I sound like a law abiding citizen, the lowest form of scum according to Farkers.


No, you sound like a fascist authoritarian.
 
6 days ago  

8 inches: It's becoming an anarchy State.

We need MORE police.

/I sound like a law abiding citizen, the lowest form of scum according to Farkers.


No, you just sound like an idiot.
 
6 days ago  
Question in a headline means the answer is 'no', right?
 
6 days ago  

EvilEgg: Xai: Becoming?

If you're white, it's not quite there yet.


Yes, it is there. There is a difference in how force is applied, and in what situations, but it has been a police state for everyone for some years. Basically since Bush's second term.
 
6 days ago  

Xai: Becoming?


Your comment has been reported to the proper authorities. But don't worry, you won't get a knock at the door.

/they don't knock
 
6 days ago  

8 inches: It's becoming an anarchy State.

We need MORE police.

/I sound like a law abiding citizen, the lowest form of scum according to Farkers.


More police to put their knees on peoples' throats? No thanks, hard pass...
 
6 days ago  

Russ1642: Xai: Becoming?

Your comment has been reported to the proper authorities. But don't worry, you won't get a knock at the door.

/they don't knock


They knock once
 
6 days ago  

8 inches: It's becoming an anarchy State.

We need MORE police.

/I sound like a law abiding citizen, the lowest form of scum according to Farkers.


Thanks for providing an accurate farkie for yourself:

"The lowest form of scum"
 
6 days ago  
Yes, "becoming"... Like Republicans are "becoming" racist.
 
6 days ago  

8 inches: It's becoming an anarchy State.

We need MORE police.

/I sound like a law abiding citizen, the lowest form of scum according to Farkers.


Right now, they have a barely graduated high school diploma.  Generally, failed jocks who just like to have people respect them even though they don't deserve it.

Yes, there are some moral cops, but if they support the scum that tends to taint their departments, they are all the same.

I'm guessing you want more so they can hire the HS drop outs as well.

Law abiding citizens are not scum.  Dumbf*cks who do not realize just how stupid they are, are the greatest evil on the planet.
 
6 days ago  
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6 days ago  

8 inches: It's becoming an anarchy State.

We need MORE police.

/I sound like a law abiding citizen, the lowest form of scum according to Farkers.


I bet if you replaced the comma with "and" then a lot of us would agree with the last sentence
 
6 days ago  

TDWCom29: 8 inches: It's becoming an anarchy State.

We need MORE police.

/I sound like a law abiding citizen, the lowest form of scum according to Farkers.

No trolls on fark


I think that one is just an idiot
 
6 days ago  
Becoming? I realized it after the Rodney King verdict.

If you're Black, it's always been a police state. The realization happens at puberty. You're looked at differently; you have to be conscious of your actions, and that the "wrong" action can have disproportionate consequences.

The War on Drugs - the police were given massive power to disrupt communities - as if crack wasn't destroying them enough.

Asset forfeiture was an excuse for police to stop you and take all your stuff because no Black person should be driving a decent car unless he was dealing.

All those BLM protests? That was the result of unchecked police power.

As far as I know, it's been kind of a police state since before I was born.
 
6 days ago  

8 inches: It's becoming an anarchy State.

We need MORE police.

/I sound like a law abiding citizen, the lowest form of scum according to Farkers.


Ehhhhhhh... We need less militarization and less social responsibilities for cops. The finding and staff that is dedicated for both of those things needs to go to social workers and mental health professionals who are better suited to the ills of society.

We still need cops to handle immediate threats of violence BUT those arseholes need to have regular psych evals to make sure they aren't going Boogaloo-crazy while no one is looking. Which would be helped if we didn't hand them everything they need to cosplay as an extra from The Hurt Locker while on the job.
 
6 days ago  

EvilEgg: Xai: Becoming?

If you're white, it's not quite there yet.


farking cop sits in the church parking lot 4 blocks away. fark him.  At least every minute he's in his car his wife is safe.
 
6 days ago  
There are no law-abiding citizens.   You drive a car, you break the law as soon as you do 26 in a 25 mph zone.

You ride the bus? You definitely have Jay walked.
 
6 days ago  

8 inches: It's becoming an anarchy State.

We need MORE police.

/I sound like a law abiding citizen, the lowest form of scum according to Farkers.

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6 days ago  
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6 days ago  

austerity101: 8 inches: It's becoming an anarchy State.

We need MORE police.

/I sound like a law abiding citizen, the lowest form of scum according to Farkers.

No, you sound like a fascist authoritarian.


He doesn't just sound like one.
 
6 days ago  
That sounds like a police state with more steps
 
6 days ago  

pacified: Question in a headline means the answer is 'no', right?


Technically true, because the question is whether it's becoming a police state.

If I asked whether Spanish was "becoming" a romance language the answer would technically also be 'no', for the same reason.
 
6 days ago  

austerity101: No, you sound like a fascist authoritarian.


You best be wearing a mask when you say that good citizen.
 
6 days ago  

Xai: Becoming?


Came to say this. 

I'll say what I usually do on such topics: If we are an X state now, we have been for a looooong time. If we weren't an X state then, we aren't one now.

In the past our railroad police had the power to catch someone and execute them the next day after a jury of railroad employees convicted, and a railroad cop judge felt like hanging them.

We had police that overtly murdered the LGBT community. We had police that were actively and publicly KKK members (ya, I know, things aren't THAT different).  We had a state and local police force that the 4th amendment didn't even apply to.

How many towns didn't allow black people after sundown?

How many sham trials have their been?

We went through prohibition in the past, started a drug war just to stick it to people with more melanin than we cared for, and ramped that up for decades.

Most of these things have improved over my lifetime, not gotten worse.  We do, otoh, have lots of cameras and an internet to spread information, so it is much harder to deny how things are, and they appear to be more prevalent than they likely are (not saying any level of this shiat is acceptable, I'm just saying that's how things work with information technology and salient events - without national news and a camera to prove it nobody ever heard of police in some local or another beating the fark out of somebody).


You know when idiots like Trump talk of making america great again, and you ask their followers wtf they are talking about and they act like the farking fifties was Mayberry all the way down? Well, when people say police are getting worse today they are falling prey to the same foolishness. Do police have fancy military toys now? Ya, but look at the worst examples of police use of force: it's the same old choking and beating it always was.
 
6 days ago  

theteacher: There are no law-abiding citizens.   You drive a car, you break the law as soon as you do 26 in a 25 mph zone.

You ride the bus? You definitely have Jay walked.


Duh
 
6 days ago  

8 inches: It's becoming an anarchy State.

We need MORE police.

/I sound like a law abiding citizen, the lowest form of scum according to Farkers.


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6 days ago  

HerptheDerp: 8 inches: It's becoming an anarchy State.

We need MORE police.

/I sound like a law abiding citizen, the lowest form of scum according to Farkers.

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Damn
 
6 days ago  

mathamagical: 8 inches: It's becoming an anarchy State.

We need MORE police.

/I sound like a law abiding citizen, the lowest form of scum according to Farkers.

Thanks for providing an accurate farkie for yourself:

"The lowest form of scum"


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6 days ago  
Step 1 - End civil asset forfeiture. Period.

Step 2 - Do"D" is forbidden from handing military equipment to the police. There is NO reason that civil peace officers should have need of a armored vehicle. There's not even any defunding involved here since the DoD never provides any to begin with... They give away these white elephants for free.

If you're a rural county, an exception may be made for a humvee. Without the 50 cal turret or the RPG defense curtains.

Then we can talk about all the OTHER things that need to be done. And a whole honking ass bunch of PDs that need to be rebooted from scratch.
 
6 days ago  

erik-k: Step 1 - End civil asset forfeiture. Period.

Step 2 - Do"D" is forbidden from handing military equipment to the police. There is NO reason that civil peace officers should have need of a armored vehicle. There's not even any defunding involved here since the DoD never provides any to begin with... They give away these white elephants for free.

If you're a rural county, an exception may be made for a humvee. Without the 50 cal turret or the RPG defense curtains.

Then we can talk about all the OTHER things that need to be done. And a whole honking ass bunch of PDs that need to be rebooted from scratch.


I agree with step 1.

Step 2 has always been pretty "meh" to me. I mean, police don't need such things (with very few possible exceptions one could imagine, I guess), but they also don't really do much with them either. On the list of "zomg the police did WHAT?!!" stories I can think of, none of them involved doing anything with an MRAP that couldn't have been done without one.  Crashing into things and breaching can be accomplished without one, and unless the firepower is being leveled at police to justify all that armor the armor isn't of much value.  And if such firepower is being leveled at them... well that would justify having it.

I'm almost positive none of the cops are shooting things up with 50cal turrets or using RPG defense systems.

That side of the complaint about cops always seems like a red herring to me.
 
6 days ago  

Solid Muldoon: [Fark user image image 465x287]
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Is... is that Adam-12?
 
Xai [TotalFark] [BareFark]
6 days ago  

8 inches: It's becoming an anarchy State.

We need MORE police.

/I sound like a law abiding citizen, the lowest form of scum according to Farkers.


I just find it rather odd that when police brutality actually causes MORE protests and unrest, that you don't stop and think 'hmm, maybe my logic is flawed'

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6 days ago  
And don't overlook the fact that this article is appearing in The Hill, which is only slightly to the left of the WSJ and Reason.

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/embiggens nicely
 
6 days ago  
Snowflakes.  The lot of you.
 
6 days ago  

rebelyell2006: mathamagical: Thanks for providing an accurate farkie for yourself:

"The lowest form of scum"

[Fark user image 425x312]


I see you have some of the same color assignments as I do.

Although, after that one, I'm >this< far from puh-lonking him entirely.
 
6 days ago  

bughunter: Although, after that one, I'm >this< far from puh-lonking him entirely.


[and during composition of that]

8 inches: Snowflakes.  The lot of you.


Never adding anything to the conversation is the criterion.  You just met it.

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6 days ago  
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Coming soon to a city near you.
 
5 days ago  

ViolentEastCoastCity: Solid Muldoon: [Fark user image image 465x287]
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Is... is that Adam-12?


Yes.
 
5 days ago  

bughunter: rebelyell2006: mathamagical: Thanks for providing an accurate farkie for yourself:

"The lowest form of scum"

[Fark user image 425x312]

I see you have some of the same color assignments as I do.

Although, after that one, I'm >this< far from puh-lonking him entirely.


I've got him in troll piss yellow with "I'm a millionaire!" as his farkie
 
5 days ago  
No. America's been a police state for quite a while now, the transformation is long over.
 
5 days ago  
Becoming?
 
5 days ago  

FarkingChas: ViolentEastCoastCity: Solid Muldoon: [Fark user image image 465x287]
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Is... is that Adam-12?

Yes.


Nice.
 
5 days ago  
Isn't scum normally found on top of stuff?
 
5 days ago  
The United States of America, Land of the Free, Home of the Brave, already is a police state, and has been for decades.

The US imprisons more people, both as an absolute number, and as a per-capita proportion of its population, than any other nation on earth save perhaps North Korea, and keeps them there for longer average sentences than any other nation.

With that simple fact out in the open, anyone who thinks the US is not a police state is inhabiting an altogether different reality.
 
5 days ago  
This is the inevitable result of an Imperial Presidency.
Our POTUS should be weak as water during peacetime.
The only real power should be the Veto.
That's what the Founders wanted: a decorative dummy like the figurehead on the bow of a ship.
But, as soon as Congress declares War or a disaster, Commander-in-Chief should decisively take charge
for the Duration + 6 mos.
Then, when the national emergency is over, claw back those powers.
Once again, the only weapon in POTUS hand should be the large scissors for cutting the ribbons at the Grand Opening of Something.
POTUS/CinC are the Janus-heads of our Democracy/Republic: Comedy/Tragedy are the two sides of the same.
Trump should play as much golf as he wants.
But he should know WTF is going on.
 
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