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2020-06-26 9:45:15 PM  
He'll get his pardon. He's one guy that knows where the bodies are buried.
 
2020-06-26 10:30:46 PM  

NeoCortex42: He'll get his pardon. He's one guy that knows where the bodies are buried.


Stone might not be happy that Trump let him sweat it out this long.  After he is pardoned, there is no reason to stay loyal to Trump.  No reason to not help State prosecutors.

1) Trump does not really trust anyone to be loyal to him
2) Trump never likes to give up leverage
3) If he starts pardoning people now - it will look like he's on his way out (which he is)
 
2020-06-26 10:53:35 PM  
I thought Stone and Trump pretty close which for the friendless POTUS is a big deal.
 
2020-06-27 12:05:38 AM  

mrshowrules: Stone might not be happy that Trump let him sweat it out this long.  After he is pardoned, there is no reason to stay loyal to Trump.


What are you talking about?  Stone built his BRAND on being a loyal scumbag.  If he turns on Trump, no fellow scumbags would ever hire him again!
 
2020-06-27 12:05:52 AM  
Pardoned or given the Epstein suite?
 
2020-06-27 12:06:36 AM  

mrshowrules: NeoCortex42: He'll get his pardon. He's one guy that knows where the bodies are buried.

Stone might not be happy that Trump let him sweat it out this long.  After he is pardoned, there is no reason to stay loyal to Trump.  No reason to not help State prosecutors.

1) Trump does not really trust anyone to be loyal to him
2) Trump never likes to give up leverage
3) If he starts pardoning people now - it will look like he's on his way out (which he is)


Except Stone is loyal GOP toad to the end.  He'll lick his warts and bide his time until a new master comes along.
 
2020-06-27 12:07:32 AM  
Trump should just pardon him and get it over with. It's not going to make his base turn on him. Nancy Pelosi isn't going to impeach him over it, even though corruptive pardons are literally the textbook example of justified impeachment written about in the Federalist papers. Just scratch that itch already. There's no consequences for it.
 
2020-06-27 12:08:34 AM  
Trump will live to July 13th?
 
2020-06-27 12:08:37 AM  
I hope Trump pardons him. If anything, it further poisons the well for Trump's kids if they ever plan on running for office. The kids just sat around while their father did nothing right.
 
2020-06-27 12:09:37 AM  

BlastYoBoots: mrshowrules: Stone might not be happy that Trump let him sweat it out this long.  After he is pardoned, there is no reason to stay loyal to Trump.

What are you talking about?  Stone built his BRAND on being a loyal scumbag.  If he turns on Trump, no fellow scumbags would ever hire him again!


Maybe I don't want to understand what drives Stone because it would give me a deep icky feeling.  I really don't know but my best guess would be that Stone does not get pardoned until after the election.
 
2020-06-27 12:10:43 AM  
Good ol' Zippy...

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2020-06-27 12:14:21 AM  

Harry Wagstaff: Pardoned or given the Epstein suite?


"Looks like antifa murdered Roger Stone in police custody last night!" shouted the President of the United States, over the roar of the helicopter in the background. "Sad!"
 
Azz [TotalFark]
2020-06-27 12:20:17 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: Harry Wagstaff: Pardoned or given the Epstein suite?

"Looks like antifa murdered Roger Stone in police custody last night!" shouted the President of the United States, over the roar of the helicopter in the background. "Sad!"


Or the Clintons, just like they murdered Scalia
 
2020-06-27 12:24:50 AM  

BlastYoBoots: mrshowrules: Stone might not be happy that Trump let him sweat it out this long.  After he is pardoned, there is no reason to stay loyal to Trump.

What are you talking about?  Stone built his BRAND on being a loyal scumbag.  If he turns on Trump, no fellow scumbags would ever hire him again!


Why would they hire him?
He got caught.
 
2020-06-27 12:28:16 AM  
Deserves to die in pain and alone.
 
2020-06-27 12:30:01 AM  

Purple_Urkle: BlastYoBoots: mrshowrules: Stone might not be happy that Trump let him sweat it out this long.  After he is pardoned, there is no reason to stay loyal to Trump.

What are you talking about?  Stone built his BRAND on being a loyal scumbag.  If he turns on Trump, no fellow scumbags would ever hire him again!

Why would they hire him?
He got caught.


So did Oliver North. What's your point?
 
2020-06-27 12:30:11 AM  

Harry Wagstaff: Pardoned or given the Epstein suite?


Two hots and a tot?
 
2020-06-27 12:37:56 AM  
Trump can't pardon him at this point. He's not going to waste political capital on that shiat, not heading into an election where's he's already severely behind in the polls in states he thought he could count on. He certainly wants to pardon Stone, but his advisors will constantly remind him how bad it is. He'll get pardoned at the end of his term as he's walking out the door, and then Biden will revoke it.
 
2020-06-27 12:41:59 AM  

FnkyTwn: Biden will revoke it.


Please detail what mechanism allows a President to revoke a pardon.
 
2020-06-27 12:43:41 AM  

FnkyTwn: Trump can't pardon him at this point. He's not going to waste political capital on that shiat, not heading into an election where's he's already severely behind in the polls in states he thought he could count on. He certainly wants to pardon Stone, but his advisors will constantly remind him how bad it is. He'll get pardoned at the end of his term as he's walking out the door, and then Biden will revoke it.


I could also see a scenario where he decides that his advisors don't know sh*t, which is why he's down so far in the polls (because it can't possibly be his own fault) and just doing whatever he wants. I think there's a pretty good chance that he's about to get more dangerous, not less. I hope I'm wrong on that one for the good of the country.
 
2020-06-27 12:47:11 AM  

LordJiro: Purple_Urkle: BlastYoBoots: mrshowrules: Stone might not be happy that Trump let him sweat it out this long.  After he is pardoned, there is no reason to stay loyal to Trump.

What are you talking about?  Stone built his BRAND on being a loyal scumbag.  If he turns on Trump, no fellow scumbags would ever hire him again!

Why would they hire him?
He got caught.

So did Oliver North. What's your point?


You're correct.

I stupidly forgot Republicans are stupid. Shame on me.
 
2020-06-27 12:59:34 AM  

Purple_Urkle: LordJiro: Purple_Urkle: BlastYoBoots: mrshowrules: Stone might not be happy that Trump let him sweat it out this long.  After he is pardoned, there is no reason to stay loyal to Trump.

What are you talking about?  Stone built his BRAND on being a loyal scumbag.  If he turns on Trump, no fellow scumbags would ever hire him again!

Why would they hire him?
He got caught.

So did Oliver North. What's your point?

You're correct.

I stupidly forgot Republicans are stupid. Shame on me.


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2020-06-27 1:00:21 AM  
Lawn Dorder!!!!
 
2020-06-27 1:03:04 AM  
I'm more concerned about what loud shiny object he'll throw out the day before as cover for the pardon.
Sarah Kendzior has nailed this dude from day one. The move is: ''Cover up crime with scandals, cover up malice with incompetence''
 
2020-06-27 1:03:18 AM  

mrshowrules: No reason to not help State prosecutors.


He likes being a dirty tricks guy and doing so would tank his reputation with his client base.
 
2020-06-27 1:03:21 AM  
One interesting thing is that the prosecutors claimed that the Justice Dept is delaying incarceration up to 60 days at the request of the convicted.  If that's true - a big if, given the case they're talking about - it's a reasonable approach to dealing with criminals.  Very rarely do they deserve to die, and never do they deserve to suffer like that.

Now that I've said that, if the Justice Dept is *not* doing that for everyone, but only for high-end white collar crime types, that ain't right.
 
2020-06-27 1:06:05 AM  

FnkyTwn: Trump can't pardon him at this point. He's not going to waste political capital on that shiat, not heading into an election where's he's already severely behind in the polls in states he thought he could count on. He certainly wants to pardon Stone, but his advisors will constantly remind him how bad it is. He'll get pardoned at the end of his term as he's walking out the door, and then Biden will revoke it.


Wut? Care to cite any authority to revoke a pardon?
 
2020-06-27 1:06:44 AM  

Weatherkiss: Trump should just pardon him and get it over with. It's not going to make his base turn on him. Nancy Pelosi isn't going to impeach him over it, even though corruptive pardons are literally the textbook example of justified impeachment written about in the Federalist papers. Just scratch that itch already. There's no consequences for it.


Oh The Lincoln Prohect disagrees
 
2020-06-27 1:07:52 AM  
.@TheJusticeDept cited #COVID19 as a reason that Roger Stone shouldn't have to report to begin his sentence, and guidance has been adopted generally. But the same agency is appealing the order to let asylum seeking families with children as young as 6 months old out for the same.

- Amy Maldonado (@AmyMaldonadoLaw) June 26, 2020


Super cool.
 
Azz [TotalFark]
2020-06-27 1:22:42 AM  

mrmopar5287: FnkyTwn: Biden will revoke it.

Please detail what mechanism allows a President to revoke a pardon.


Please detail the existence of Trump's nutsack outside of your mouth
 
2020-06-27 1:34:23 AM  

NeoCortex42: He'll get his pardon. He's one guy that knows where the bodies are buried.


He's also the link between russian intelligence (wikileaks) and the trump admin.
 
2020-06-27 1:37:29 AM  
why give him any delay if it's just a hoax?
 
2020-06-27 1:39:01 AM  

lolmao500: NeoCortex42: He'll get his pardon. He's one guy that knows where the bodies are buried.

He's also the link between russian intelligence (wikileaks) and the trump admin.


yes. He's also Q.
 
2020-06-27 1:56:43 AM  

mrmopar5287: FnkyTwn: Biden will revoke it.

Please detail what mechanism allows a President to revoke a pardon.


Please detail how President Biden can be charged with a crime if he does it.
 
2020-06-27 2:03:23 AM  

Kirablue42: lolmao500: NeoCortex42: He'll get his pardon. He's one guy that knows where the bodies are buried.

He's also the link between russian intelligence (wikileaks) and the trump admin.

yes. He's also Q.


If I was a betting man, I would say you're right.
 
2020-06-27 2:06:29 AM  
Stone dying of Covid in prison...yeah, I can dig that as karmic justice.
 
2020-06-27 2:08:28 AM  

Weatherkiss: Trump should just pardon him and get it over with. It's not going to make his base turn on him. Nancy Pelosi isn't going to impeach him over it, even though corruptive pardons are literally the textbook example of justified impeachment written about in the Federalist papers. Just scratch that itch already. There's no consequences for it.


Huh... I figured you would have been on the fence on this.
 
2020-06-27 2:14:52 AM  

Azz: Barricaded Gunman: Harry Wagstaff: Pardoned or given the Epstein suite?

"Looks like antifa murdered Roger Stone in police custody last night!" shouted the President of the United States, over the roar of the helicopter in the background. "Sad!"

Or the Clintons, just like they murdered Scalia


I find this offensive.

I murdered Scalia. Easily. With a pillow.
 
2020-06-27 2:52:11 AM  
I am guessing that he does not get pardoned.
 
2020-06-27 3:19:13 AM  
What is up with his face? Is that a mask mark? Does Trump also bronzer his guiche?
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2020-06-27 3:21:41 AM  

The Zen Philosopher Basho: Azz: Barricaded Gunman: Harry Wagstaff: Pardoned or given the Epstein suite?

"Looks like antifa murdered Roger Stone in police custody last night!" shouted the President of the United States, over the roar of the helicopter in the background. "Sad!"

Or the Clintons, just like they murdered Scalia

I find this offensive.

I murdered Scalia. Easily. With a pillow.


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2020-06-27 3:32:24 AM  
Ugly f*ck..he thinks this is a movie..like he's the penguin..dumb shiat loser
 
2020-06-27 8:43:17 AM  

Corn_Fed: mrmopar5287: FnkyTwn: Biden will revoke it.

Please detail what mechanism allows a President to revoke a pardon.

Please detail how President Biden can be charged with a crime if he does it.


Joe Biden might be so addled by dementia that he genuinely believes he can un-pardon someone. However, no matter how frothing-at-the-mouth serious a case of TDS anyone surrounding him has, there is no way they could convince any White House lawyer that's is possible.
 
2020-06-27 9:28:32 AM  

mrmopar5287: Joe Biden might be so addled by dementia that he genuinely believes he can un-pardon someone. However, no matter how frothing-at-the-mouth serious a case of TDS anyone surrounding him has, there is no way they could convince any White House lawyer that's is possible.


Keep breathlessly pushing Republican President Donald Trump's flaccid attempts at labeling Joe Biden as mentally unfit, even as Trump waddles the earth in confused rage all day.

Doesn't make you look six kinds of f*cking stupid, I promise.
 
2020-06-27 9:43:39 AM  
Im cynical. I believe Trump will pardon Stone. I believe he would already had done that.

However Im not so sure the fact he hasnt done so already is because of T's re-election chances. I think that accepting a pardon, and thus accepting he did the crime, would place Stone in trouble with state's authorities and would get him to face even more jail time.

So what do they do? What we are seeing now, dont pardon him, run out the clock. Block any attempts for the judges to force him to see the inside of a jail cell. Once the election is over and T believe he has lost, he will pardon Stone and put in a EO saying the DoJ has to block any states from charging him.
 
2020-06-27 9:50:36 AM  

Lonestar: I think that accepting a pardon, and thus accepting he did the crime


Accepting a pardon is not an admission of guilt.
 
2020-06-27 9:52:27 AM  

Lonestar: would place Stone in trouble with state's authorities


It's not been suggested that Stone has committed any crimes that violate state laws. It's not as simple as just saying "We'll charge him in state court!" when allegedly making false statements to Congress is not a state crime.
 
Azz [TotalFark]
2020-06-27 9:54:59 AM  
State Crimes' Lives Matter!
 
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2020-06-27 9:59:18 AM  
mrmopar5287:

Stone's always been a corrupt piece of shiat human being. So the question is why are you working so hard to defend him?
 
2020-06-27 10:07:12 AM  

Azz: Stone's always been a corrupt piece of shiat human being. So the question is why are you working so hard to defend him?


I simply don't believe Steve Bannon or Rick Gates. Rick Gates served prison time after taking a plea bargain. His testimony is suspect. I have a personal policy of entirely dismissing any testimony that comes from people who make plea bargains in exchange for testimony because it's incentivized and thus more likely to be lies.

That, and Roger Stone got convicted by a jury foreperson who had obvious bias BEFORE the trial, with her social media posts that showed her contempt. She obviously lied on her jury questionnaire about how she hadn't formed an opinion of the trial. That alone should be enough for a mistrial.
 
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