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(ABC 15)   Company behind "magical" coronavirus filtration system used by church that held Trump rally gets slapped by the Arizona AG   (abc15.com) divider line
    More: Followup, Donald Trump, Common cold, Patent infringement, Advertising, Dream City Church, Arizona, similar claims, AG's office  
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2020-06-26 3:08:41 PM  
23 votes:
FTFA:The AG warned Dream City Church, which rents out space for public events, including this week's President Trump rally, that it may be violating the Arizona Consumer Fraud Act with false claims.

So despite giving blatantly misleading claims about their new filtration system (not to mention violating IRS rules by hosting a political event), they're being told "STOP! Or I'll stay 'stop' again!"

The idiots who sold and installed it are in actual trouble... the church just gets a little "tsk tsk" and nothing more.
 
2020-06-26 9:48:27 PM  
20 votes:

King Something: clkeagle: the church just gets a little "tsk tsk" and nothing more.

It's a miracle they got that much of a punishment, and not the least bit surprising that they didn't get more.

The IRS can't punish them because they worship Jesus™, which means that any sort of punishment for using their church as a political venue (or for pretty much anything at all) automagically counts as an assault on their religious liberties.


I'm so over churches getting special treatment.
 
2020-06-26 4:54:42 PM  
8 votes:

clkeagle: the church just gets a little "tsk tsk" and nothing more.


It's a miracle they got that much of a punishment, and not the least bit surprising that they didn't get more.

The IRS can't punish them because they worship Jesus™, which means that any sort of punishment for using their church as a political venue (or for pretty much anything at all) automagically counts as an assault on their religious liberties.
 
2020-06-26 9:47:26 PM  
6 votes:

clkeagle: FTFA:The AG warned Dream City Church, which rents out space for public events, including this week's President Trump rally, that it may be violating the Arizona Consumer Fraud Act with false claims.

So despite giving blatantly misleading claims about their new filtration system (not to mention violating IRS rules by hosting a political event), they're being told "STOP! Or I'll stay 'stop' again!"

The idiots who sold and installed it are in actual trouble... the church just gets a little "tsk tsk" and nothing more.


The idiots who sold and installed it are the church leadership
 
2020-06-26 10:12:03 PM  
4 votes:
What-a-bout renting a church out for political use .. Is that a Johnson Amendment issue ..
 
2020-06-26 10:43:27 PM  
2 votes:

mikalmd: What-a-bout renting a church out for political use .. Is that a Johnson Amendment issue ..


Nope, that was discussed... It's a separate hall, it's probably specifically zoned that way. Whether it's a wedding or a political rally, it would be legit because it wasn't the actual church building. Someone on here was mentioning that their Masonic Lodge would do the same thing, a separate hall that could be rented out for events.
 
2020-06-26 10:18:52 PM  
2 votes:

Mikey1969: I mean, this shiat was rather cool. It basically made particulates in the air fall to the ground, and it worked.


And stick to surfaces.

Which people touch.

It was a lie. It was always a lie. If it was real, literally every food service place in the country would be required to have such systems installed.
 
2020-06-26 10:14:26 PM  
2 votes:

Jgok: fusillade762: A local winery has installed something similar.  Our AG hasn't made any moves on them that I'm aware of.

"Called ActivePure Technology, and commercially available since 2013 as the Air Scrubber Plus, the key to its function is a proprietary blend of reactive metals added to the original titanium dioxide coating. When exposed to ultraviolet light, these metals mix with the surrounding air and humidity to produce charged clusters of hydrogen and oxygen such as hydrogen peroxide, hydroxyls, and superoxide ions, which are antimicrobial agents also found in nature."

Well, ActivePure is actually a NASA spinoff originally developed to keep plants from ripening too fast by getting rid of ethylene.

https://spinoff.nasa.gov/Spinoff2015/c​g_7.html

I doubt the AG would be able to say anything about that.

This "Clean Air EXP" thing is just some woo BS cooked up by a couple of church members.


If they were an honest company they wouldn't have made the sale.

They did.

Money trumps truth.
 
2020-06-26 10:49:37 PM  
1 vote:

Mikey1969: mikalmd: What-a-bout renting a church out for political use .. Is that a Johnson Amendment issue ..

Nope, that was discussed... It's a separate hall, it's probably specifically zoned that way. Whether it's a wedding or a political rally, it would be legit because it wasn't the actual church building. Someone on here was mentioning that their Masonic Lodge would do the same thing, a separate hall that could be rented out for events.


It's probably not, but the state won't look and the GOP has deliberately gutted the IRS so they can't look.

You can bet not ONE dollar involved there was taxed.
 
2020-06-26 10:16:36 PM  
1 vote:
Interesting that it's in Phx...

Way back in the late '90s, when I worked at a brewery in downtown Phx, our boss(the owner) brought in an ionization system that some of his former Boy Scouts had designed and were trying to get off the ground. I wonder if this was related?

I mean, this shiat was rather cool. It basically made particulates in the air fall to the ground, and it worked. I hung out with some friends after work up in our banquet room area, drinking beer and playing pool. They were all smoking cigars and my normal hacking/coughing/throat clearing shiat that I've done my whole life wasn't affected an more than on a normal day.

But for a virus? I don't really buy it. Also, it says it would take 10 minutes to kill the 'rona in that hall. How do you do that? Have all 3,000 people enter one at a time, with a 10 minute break between each person?
 
2020-06-26 10:09:28 PM  
1 vote:
You can pray for a quick death... but I'm pretty sure that's about all you can hope for, Christians.

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2020-06-26 10:07:20 PM  
1 vote:

qorkfiend: clkeagle: FTFA:The AG warned Dream City Church, which rents out space for public events, including this week's President Trump rally, that it may be violating the Arizona Consumer Fraud Act with false claims.

So despite giving blatantly misleading claims about their new filtration system (not to mention violating IRS rules by hosting a political event), they're being told "STOP! Or I'll stay 'stop' again!"

The idiots who sold and installed it are in actual trouble... the church just gets a little "tsk tsk" and nothing more.

The idiots who sold and installed it are the church leadership


And if the church hasn't been paid for the rally by now they have some more bad news coming
 
2020-06-26 9:55:21 PM  
1 vote:
Hmm. He's Republican.

So Arizona Anal Geyser it is then.
 
2020-06-26 9:51:39 PM  
1 vote:
I assume Faith-Based-Filtration is just as effective as traditional prayer.

/not at all but maybe you get lucky anyhow
 
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