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2020-06-26 9:18:08 AM  
I have a feeling they will find a way to have it.
 
2020-06-26 11:16:09 AM  
His guaranteed career earnings is around $50 million. I think he will be just fine if he doesn't play.
 
2020-06-26 11:54:05 AM  

iron_city_ap: His guaranteed career earnings is around $50 million. I think he will be just fine if he doesn't play.


Also, he's right.
 
2020-06-26 12:03:50 PM  

iron_city_ap: His guaranteed career earnings is around $50 million. I think he will be just fine if he doesn't play.


I do love how the football and baseball players that have made generational money like to tell everyone what they should and shouldn't be doing.

Not everyone makes $200,000 per week. There are people that aren't players and coaches that work for teams and at stadiums for who the job IS essential.
 
2020-06-26 12:05:42 PM  

DRTFA: iron_city_ap: His guaranteed career earnings is around $50 million. I think he will be just fine if he doesn't play.

Also, he's right.


No, he's not.
 
2020-06-26 12:15:37 PM  

abhorrent1: DRTFA: iron_city_ap: His guaranteed career earnings is around $50 million. I think he will be just fine if he doesn't play.

Also, he's right.

No, he's not.


What part is he right / not right about?  The part about football being non-essential?  The part about football being a higher risk of Covid spread than basketball?  The part where he's not comfortable putting his family at risk?
 
2020-06-26 12:38:24 PM  

Slow To Return: abhorrent1: DRTFA: iron_city_ap: His guaranteed career earnings is around $50 million. I think he will be just fine if he doesn't play.

Also, he's right.

No, he's not.

What part is he right / not right about?  The part about football being non-essential?  The part about football being a higher risk of Covid spread than basketball?  The part where he's not comfortable putting his family at risk?


The part about it being non-essential. It may be non-essential for him but he has $50M in the bank but like I said above, it IS essential for some people. It's how they make their living.

It's a business and bigger than just the players on the field. How many thousands and thousands of people have lost their jobs because no professional sports have been played?

If players don't want to play because they worry about the risk, then don't play.
I just don't think multi-millionaire players should make the argument that no one should have the option to go back to work if they want to.
 
2020-06-26 12:46:39 PM  

abhorrent1: The part about it being non-essential. It may be non-essential for him but he has $50M in the bank but like I said above, it IS essential for some people. It's how they make their living.


The problem with that argument is that it can be used to define every business as essential.
 
2020-06-26 12:59:06 PM  

Slow To Return: What part is he right / not right about?  The part about football being non-essential?  The part about football being a higher risk of Covid spread than basketball?  The part where he's not comfortable putting his family at risk?


Well the basketball part doesn't make any sense.

Nobody's making him play
 
2020-06-26 1:03:36 PM  
Fark needs a "SMART" tag
 
2020-06-26 1:10:55 PM  

abhorrent1: Slow To Return: abhorrent1: DRTFA: iron_city_ap: His guaranteed career earnings is around $50 million. I think he will be just fine if he doesn't play.

Also, he's right.

No, he's not.

What part is he right / not right about?  The part about football being non-essential?  The part about football being a higher risk of Covid spread than basketball?  The part where he's not comfortable putting his family at risk?

The part about it being non-essential. It may be non-essential for him but he has $50M in the bank but like I said above, it IS essential for some people. It's how they make their living.

It's a business and bigger than just the players on the field. How many thousands and thousands of people have lost their jobs because no professional sports have been played?

If players don't want to play because they worry about the risk, then don't play.
I just don't think multi-millionaire players should make the argument that no one should have the option to go back to work if they want to.


Sounds good. This is the beginning of an argument that will let all those people skip two years of football instead of just one. The virus doesn't give a fark about the $15 an hour jobs or the $10,000,000 ones.If we want a return to normalcy we have to do  whatever it takes to beat the virus. Want to save the economy - beat the virus. It has no idea what we are doing - it just kind of sits there and farks you up until you give it the chance to  grab another body to infest.
 
2020-06-26 1:12:10 PM  

Wave Of Anal Fury: abhorrent1: The part about it being non-essential. It may be non-essential for him but he has $50M in the bank but like I said above, it IS essential for some people. It's how they make their living.

The problem with that argument is that it can be used to define every business as essential.


True. But like I said, if he doesn't want to play, don't play. He has that option, but don't speak for everyone.
No one is forcing anyone to go back to work. Some people do it because they have to and he thinks that option should be taken away from them because of how HE feels about it. Is he going to pay their bills?
 
2020-06-26 1:18:36 PM  

abhorrent1: But like I said, if he doesn't want to play, don't play. He has that option, but don't speak for everyone.

Jenkins, a 12-year veteran and member of the NFL Players Association's executive committee


I do believe the man was appointed to do just that when it comes to football players. It's his responsibility to speak for his constituency - football players. And that's what he did. You don't have to like it but you'll have to hit the weight room if you want your opinion to have equal value.
 
2020-06-26 1:32:33 PM  

JohnBigBootay: abhorrent1: But like I said, if he doesn't want to play, don't play. He has that option, but don't speak for everyone.

Jenkins, a 12-year veteran and member of the NFL Players Association's executive committee

I do believe the man was appointed to do just that when it comes to football players. It's his responsibility to speak for his constituency - football players. And that's what he did. You don't have to like it but you'll have to hit the weight room if you want your opinion to have equal value.


Yeah, I'm sure all 2000 NFL players 100% agree with his opinion.
Like I've said multiple times. If players don't want to play, then don't play. It's pretty simple. But the people want or need to work should have the option.
 
2020-06-26 1:44:52 PM  

abhorrent1: Yeah, I'm sure all 2000 NFL players 100% agree with his opinion.


Oh, is that a new requirement of executive committees? 100% or no deal? I'm sure they guys who voted against the last CBA will be surprised to hear that.

Like I've said multiple times. If players don't want to play, then don't play. It's pretty simple. But the people want or need to work should have the option.

Stop worrying about it. You are getting your wish because we're a nation of idiots.They are going to start the football season. But then, after all the outbreaks, which are inevitable, they will shut it down again. Because the virus still does not give a fark about your job. It just wants hosts. If we continue to provide it with hosts I assure it will be happy to keep using them.
 
2020-06-26 2:18:11 PM  

JohnBigBootay: abhorrent1: Yeah, I'm sure all 2000 NFL players 100% agree with his opinion.

Oh, is that a new requirement of executive committees? 100% or no deal? I'm sure they guys who voted against the last CBA will be surprised to hear that.

Like I've said multiple times. If players don't want to play, then don't play. It's pretty simple. But the people want or need to work should have the option.

Stop worrying about it. You are getting your wish because we're a nation of idiots.They are going to start the football season. But then, after all the outbreaks, which are inevitable, they will shut it down again. Because the virus still does not give a fark about your job. It just wants hosts. If we continue to provide it with hosts I assure it will be happy to keep using them.


Texas and Florida are heading screaming into another lockdown., 5 teams won't be able to start their season on time. There is no way football starts on time this year, and I highly doubt we get more than a couple games before it shuts down if it even gets off the ground.
 
2020-06-26 2:40:55 PM  

Klivian: JohnBigBootay: abhorrent1: Yeah, I'm sure all 2000 NFL players 100% agree with his opinion.

Oh, is that a new requirement of executive committees? 100% or no deal? I'm sure they guys who voted against the last CBA will be surprised to hear that.

Like I've said multiple times. If players don't want to play, then don't play. It's pretty simple. But the people want or need to work should have the option.

Stop worrying about it. You are getting your wish because we're a nation of idiots.They are going to start the football season. But then, after all the outbreaks, which are inevitable, they will shut it down again. Because the virus still does not give a fark about your job. It just wants hosts. If we continue to provide it with hosts I assure it will be happy to keep using them.

Texas and Florida are heading screaming into another lockdown., 5 teams won't be able to start their season on time. There is no way football starts on time this year, and I highly doubt we get more than a couple games before it shuts down if it even gets off the ground.


Yeah but what about the people who work at the concession stand or sell t-shirts and shiat?

Just kidding. The truth is that this sucks. The virus sucks. The disruption sucks. the unemployment sucks. The inability to earn money sucks. But the fastest way to get to the best outcome is to deny the virus hosts. Yes, there will be lots of pain and uneven economic suffering amongst our populace along the way. I don't know how to fix that.
 
2020-06-26 3:30:22 PM  

JohnBigBootay: Klivian: JohnBigBootay: abhorrent1: Yeah, I'm sure all 2000 NFL players 100% agree with his opinion.

Oh, is that a new requirement of executive committees? 100% or no deal? I'm sure they guys who voted against the last CBA will be surprised to hear that.

Like I've said multiple times. If players don't want to play, then don't play. It's pretty simple. But the people want or need to work should have the option.

Stop worrying about it. You are getting your wish because we're a nation of idiots.They are going to start the football season. But then, after all the outbreaks, which are inevitable, they will shut it down again. Because the virus still does not give a fark about your job. It just wants hosts. If we continue to provide it with hosts I assure it will be happy to keep using them.

Texas and Florida are heading screaming into another lockdown., 5 teams won't be able to start their season on time. There is no way football starts on time this year, and I highly doubt we get more than a couple games before it shuts down if it even gets off the ground.

Yeah but what about the people who work at the concession stand or sell t-shirts and shiat?

Just kidding. The truth is that this sucks. The virus sucks. The disruption sucks. the unemployment sucks. The inability to earn money sucks. But the fastest way to get to the best outcome is to deny the virus hosts. Yes, there will be lots of pain and uneven economic suffering amongst our populace along the way. I don't know how to fix that.


I don't disagree entirely. I just don't think the generational wealth guys are the right spokes-people. It's easy for them to say "don't play". Most players make league minimum or less.
 
2020-06-26 5:01:32 PM  

abhorrent1: I don't disagree entirely. I just don't think the generational wealth guys are the right spokes-people. It's easy for them to say "don't play". Most players make league minimum or less.


Not stopping the virus will hit the little people the worst. Coming back now will help the little guy so he can get a couple checks for a month or two. But that means we don't stop the virus. So little guy can get crushed all over again this winter and next year. Rich guy will be fine either way. The best thing to get everyone to the finish line sooner  is to buckle down and do one hard year. We started that but then we completely farked it up.

Look at FLA and TEXAS. Open up! open the bars!  open the restaurants!!! They did. Now covid is kicking their ass WORSE than it was two months ago and growing stronger. So today they announced they have to shut them down again.

Don't you think it would have ultimately been better at the end of the day if they had just stayed closed? Because if they had stay closed we would not be seeing the numbers we are now seeing. But now all those little guys get to do it  all over again. One hard  year is better than this thing never farking ending. Which it won't if we are too farking stupid to live without football and bars for a year.
 
2020-06-26 5:08:38 PM  

JohnBigBootay: abhorrent1: I don't disagree entirely. I just don't think the generational wealth guys are the right spokes-people. It's easy for them to say "don't play". Most players make league minimum or less.

Not stopping the virus will hit the little people the worst. Coming back now will help the little guy so he can get a couple checks for a month or two. But that means we don't stop the virus. So little guy can get crushed all over again this winter and next year. Rich guy will be fine either way. The best thing to get everyone to the finish line sooner  is to buckle down and do one hard year. We started that but then we completely farked it up.

Look at FLA and TEXAS. Open up! open the bars!  open the restaurants!!! They did. Now covid is kicking their ass WORSE than it was two months ago and growing stronger. So today they announced they have to shut them down again.

Don't you think it would have ultimately been better at the end of the day if they had just stayed closed? Because if they had stay closed we would not be seeing the numbers we are now seeing. But now all those little guys get to do it  all over again. One hard  year is better than this thing never farking ending. Which it won't if we are too farking stupid to live without football and bars for a year.


You should be dropping knowledge like someplace where it'll be more likely to be seen than a dead thread with 19 posts.
 
2020-06-26 5:25:39 PM  

Slow To Return: You should be dropping knowledge like someplace where it'll be more likely to be seen than a dead thread with 19 posts.


Like all my posts, I write them just for me. Your helpful attitude is inspiring and I appreciate the attention.
 
2020-06-26 7:45:49 PM  

JohnBigBootay: abhorrent1: But like I said, if he doesn't want to play, don't play. He has that option, but don't speak for everyone.

Jenkins, a 12-year veteran and member of the NFL Players Association's executive committee

I do believe the man was appointed to do just that when it comes to football players. It's his responsibility to speak for his constituency - football players. And that's what he did. You don't have to like it but you'll have to hit the weight room if you want your opinion to have equal value.


You don't have to hit the weight room to be employed directly or indirectly by the NFL. Scouts, coaches, trainers, travel agents, lawyers, concessionaires, ticket takers, workers who build and maintain their facilities, the list can go on and on. Most of the people employed due to the NFL's existence are not necessarily stronger physically than the average Farker, to my knowledge. So I believe that this is what 'abhorrent' refers to --- the fact that it is easiest for a player or owner to step back and take a year's vacation. Most of the people that business employs can't. Can they find other jobs? Maybe. Might be hard if everyone else is scrambling for those jobs. Is it worth it to stop the economy to save some lives? I think it's a difficult question, but definitely it's not answered only by whether or not a professional athlete late in his career is willing to risk a year of unemployment.
 
2020-06-26 8:56:15 PM  

proteus_b: JohnBigBootay: abhorrent1: But like I said, if he doesn't want to play, don't play. He has that option, but don't speak for everyone.

Jenkins, a 12-year veteran and member of the NFL Players Association's executive committee

I do believe the man was appointed to do just that when it comes to football players. It's his responsibility to speak for his constituency - football players. And that's what he did. You don't have to like it but you'll have to hit the weight room if you want your opinion to have equal value.

You don't have to hit the weight room to be employed directly or indirectly by the NFL. Scouts, coaches, trainers, travel agents, lawyers, concessionaires, ticket takers, workers who build and maintain their facilities, the list can go on and on. Most of the people employed due to the NFL's existence are not necessarily stronger physically than the average Farker, to my knowledge. So I believe that this is what 'abhorrent' refers to --- the fact that it is easiest for a player or owner to step back and take a year's vacation. Most of the people that business employs can't. Can they find other jobs? Maybe. Might be hard if everyone else is scrambling for those jobs. Is it worth it to stop the economy to save some lives? I think it's a difficult question, but definitely it's not answered only by whether or not a professional athlete late in his career is willing to risk a year of unemployment.


Most of those you listed work part-time with teams; teams aren't employing anyone more than they have to.
 
2020-06-26 9:32:33 PM  
I'm not saying those jobs don't matter. They matter a lot. All our jobs matter. I'm simply saying, very clearly, that the best way for the economy to return to normalcy is to get control of the virus. Today they re-closed all the bars in Texas and Florida. Again. Are those employees better off now than they would have been if we'd stayed closed longer and actually gotten the virus under control? Go look at the case count in South Korea. We got this shiat at the same time. They did what needed to be done. We're too too stupid to accept the hard reality of what we need to do and we're making it worse and burning resources by delaying the inevitable.
 
2020-06-26 9:33:09 PM  

JohnBigBootay: Sounds good. This is the beginning of an argument that will let all those people skip two years of football instead of just one. The virus doesn't give a fark about the $15 an hour jobs or the $10,000,000 ones.If we want a return to normalcy we have to do  whatever it takes to beat the virus. Want to save the economy - beat the virus. It has no idea what we are doing - it just kind of sits there and farks you up until you give it the chance to  grab another body to infest.


People somehow don't get this. Well said
 
2020-06-26 9:37:24 PM  

abhorrent1: Wave Of Anal Fury: abhorrent1: The part about it being non-essential. It may be non-essential for him but he has $50M in the bank but like I said above, it IS essential for some people. It's how they make their living.

The problem with that argument is that it can be used to define every business as essential.

True. But like I said, if he doesn't want to play, don't play. He has that option, but don't speak for everyone.
No one is forcing anyone to go back to work. Some people do it because they have to and he thinks that option should be taken away from them because of how HE feels about it. Is he going to pay their bills?


If he and other players don't play because of C19 concerns, then all those other people who depend on them to bring in the billions off dollars of revenue to justify their jobs won't make money, because spectators don't go to see replacement players play, nor will they pay to not see the stars play. we tried that experiment in football and it didn't work out so well.
 
2020-06-26 11:15:45 PM  

JohnBigBootay: abhorrent1: I don't disagree entirely. I just don't think the generational wealth guys are the right spokes-people. It's easy for them to say "don't play". Most players make league minimum or less.

Not stopping the virus will hit the little people the worst. Coming back now will help the little guy so he can get a couple checks for a month or two. But that means we don't stop the virus. So little guy can get crushed all over again this winter and next year. Rich guy will be fine either way. The best thing to get everyone to the finish line sooner  is to buckle down and do one hard year. We started that but then we completely farked it up.

Look at FLA and TEXAS. Open up! open the bars!  open the restaurants!!! They did. Now covid is kicking their ass WORSE than it was two months ago and growing stronger. So today they announced they have to shut them down again.

Don't you think it would have ultimately been better at the end of the day if they had just stayed closed? Because if they had stay closed we would not be seeing the numbers we are now seeing. But now all those little guys get to do it  all over again. One hard  year is better than this thing never farking ending. Which it won't if we are too farking stupid to live without football and bars for a year.


If we would have shut down - and REALLY shut down, not this halfway crap - we could have been basically done with this in 6 weeks.

Instead, MAH FREEDUMS
 
2020-06-27 7:48:41 AM  

abhorrent1: iron_city_ap: His guaranteed career earnings is around $50 million. I think he will be just fine if he doesn't play.

I do love how the football and baseball players that have made generational money like to tell everyone what they should and shouldn't be doing.

Not everyone makes $200,000 per week. There are people that aren't players and coaches that work for teams and at stadiums for who the job IS essential.


Exactly. The wealthiest athletes are right up there with the owners when it comes to their I got mine and screw the young guys attitudes.
 
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