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(The Hill)   GAO to Bureau of Land Management: So, just how much Gold, Silver, and Copper are private companies mining from public lands without having to pay even a penny in royalties for? Bureau of Land Management: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯   (thehill.com) divider line
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2020-06-25 3:03:27 PM  
...oh, and the companies are pissed if you even inquire or suggest that they cleanup their sh*t.

The Branch Dildonians were just a speck on this, and this Administration has done jack and squat to even look at the raid on natural resources, and is AS offended if you ask questions as the companies themselves.
 
2020-06-25 3:08:36 PM  

hubiestubert: ...oh, and the companies are pissed if you even inquire or suggest that they cleanup their sh*t.

The Branch Dildonians were just a speck on this, and this Administration has done jack and squat to even look at the raid on natural resources, and is AS offended if you ask questions as the companies themselves.


We know this all too well here in Arizona. One of their favorite activities is mining groundwater. They'd love to mine the hell out of the Grand Canyon.
 
2020-06-25 3:22:00 PM  
ALL Land Manages!

/Wait, I might have misread that...
 
2020-06-25 3:42:41 PM  
Ummm... I'd like to speak to the Manager, please.

Get me your manager right now.
 
2020-06-25 5:42:15 PM  
It's not just the Bundys that want a handout from the government.
 
2020-06-25 6:24:04 PM  
Has anyone told AOC, Katie Porter or Elizabeth Warren about this?
 
2020-06-25 6:29:33 PM  

TwilightZone: Has anyone told AOC, Katie Porter or Elizabeth Warren about this?


Their plates are already pretty full. We're going to need a whole lot more energized and engaged elected officials to clean up all of our problems.

Which would be awesome to see.
 
2020-06-25 6:30:47 PM  
They are following the law, which says that the companies don't need to report the amount they are mining or pay any royalties.  The guy that is complaining is a Congressman.  You know what Congress can do?  It can change the law!

...well, it could, if the Senate wasn't controlled by a turtle...
 
2020-06-25 6:31:20 PM  
But that's good soshulisms, because it's for private companies (which are people, my friend).
 
2020-06-25 6:34:18 PM  

Aquapope: But that's good soshulisms, because it's for private companies (which are people, my friend).


Corporations are people, human beings aren't unless their net worth exceeds $1,000,000 and if you question the system or status quo the police will be sent to your home to break in and murder you.

Ain't capitalism grand?
 
2020-06-25 6:35:18 PM  

Geotpf: They are following the law, which says that the companies don't need to report the amount they are mining or pay any royalties.  The guy that is complaining is a Congressman.  You know what Congress can do?  It can change the law!

...well, it could, if the Senate wasn't controlled by a turtle...


But the house can still make a big stink about it, and the first, most important thing to make a stink about is how much money they're making off of public resources.
 
2020-06-25 6:37:37 PM  

PlaidJaguar: Aquapope: But that's good soshulisms, because it's for private companies (which are people, my friend).

Corporations are people, human beings aren't unless their net worth exceeds $1,000,000 and if you question the system or status quo the police will be sent to your home to break in and murder you.

Ain't capitalism grand?


Human beings ARE people from -9 months to birth, after which they're 'resources', like gold, silver and copper.
 
2020-06-25 6:37:44 PM  

Lochsteppe: TwilightZone: Has anyone told AOC, Katie Porter or Elizabeth Warren about this?

Their plates are already pretty full. We're going to need a whole lot more energized and engaged elected officials to clean up all of our problems.

Which would be awesome to see.


You're probably right -- but they're the attack dogs pack leaders we need for this particular issue.

/that's a compliment
//i love dogs
///doggos are the best
 
2020-06-25 6:38:07 PM  

Geotpf: They are following the law, which says that the companies don't need to report the amount they are mining or pay any royalties.  The guy that is complaining is a Congressman.  You know what Congress can do?  It can change the law!

...well, it could, if the Senate wasn't controlled by a turtle...


Part of the reason for congresscritters to publicly complain about this stuff is that it isn't well known to the public, therefore there isn't much pressure to address it. Making it more visible can put more pressure on other congresscritters to get involved in addressing the problem. So, this congresscritter is doing their job.
 
2020-06-25 6:39:56 PM  
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2020-06-25 6:50:15 PM  
Give us UBI, and I'll care less about this, given we're taking care of the environment while it's being done.
 
2020-06-25 6:56:19 PM  

Aquapope: But that's good soshulisms, because it's for private companies (which are people, my friend).


It involves federal land, so that makes it nashunal soshulisms.
 
2020-06-25 6:57:08 PM  
That's the whole point of a kleptocracy -- looting & polluting.
 
2020-06-25 6:57:16 PM  
Sovereign wealth fund. All resources should be going in to a fund that pays dividends to all Americans. Companies can be paid for the work of extraction but we as citizens own the proceeds.
 
2020-06-25 6:59:39 PM  

Cornelius Dribble: Aquapope: But that's good soshulisms, because it's for private companies (which are people, my friend).

It involves federal land, so that makes it nashunal soshulisms.


That's the best kind... Someone should form a political party around it. Imagine all the great things it could accomplish for the fatherland.
 
2020-06-25 7:13:00 PM  
Have they ever?
 
2020-06-25 7:17:35 PM  

Spaz-master: Have they ever?


Probably not, royalties for hardrock mining on federal land are, for whatever reason, collected by the states and not the federal government. Could be because cleanup costs are more localized.

/not going to rule out the possibility of graft, either
 
2020-06-25 8:04:02 PM  

Aquapope: PlaidJaguar: Aquapope: But that's good soshulisms, because it's for private companies (which are people, my friend).

Corporations are people, human beings aren't unless their net worth exceeds $1,000,000 and if you question the system or status quo the police will be sent to your home to break in and murder you.

Ain't capitalism grand?

Human beings ARE people from -9 months to birth, after which they're 'resources', like gold, silver and copper.


No they're a resource from -9 months to birth too.


Just one that is utilized differently and has different branding in marketing materials.
 
2020-06-25 9:08:04 PM  
Wow.
In BC, Canada the red tape to keep my gold mine active is a constant hassle.  The gov't is on me for every little thing all the time. I can't move a piece of moss without filing paperwork.
 
2020-06-25 9:19:54 PM  
Turnip is all about zero sum. Ask him about this, I'm sure it will get fixed.
 
2020-06-25 11:18:15 PM  
Well that article was misleading and manipulative

I would comment futher but why bother

empty drivle

couldn't help myself
 
2020-06-26 12:54:12 AM  

Aquapope: But that's good soshulisms, because it's for private companies (which are people, my friend).


In some ways, yes.  In other ways, no.

These kinds of extractive industries is what allows many rural areas to be economically viable, without any sort of government led means of production.

On the other hand, there are a good number of regulations that need to be followed in which the government has some sort of control of said industry.
 
2020-06-26 12:58:06 AM  

willwall: Sovereign wealth fund. All resources should be going in to a fund that pays dividends to all Americans. Companies can be paid for the work of extraction but we as citizens own the proceeds.


This is done somewhat on a state level where a number get royalties from these kinds of extractive industries. Just not at a federal level. Not that the feds don't have any say in the operation of said mining, they just don't get direct payment from the royalties. They get their pound of flesh through other methods.
 
2020-06-26 3:29:45 AM  

SumoJeb: Wow.
In BC, Canada the red tape to keep my gold mine active is a constant hassle.  The gov't is on me for every little thing all the time. I can't move a piece of moss without filing paperwork.


Move to Ontario then.  That's where Barrick Gold is located.  And they're taking our (as in American)  gold in them that hills!

Their most productive mine is in Carlin

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