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2020-06-25 10:14:36 AM  
Odd, my neighbrohood is littered with Mirages and Fits with the odd Yaris or Spark. But then again, I live in a city and not in an empty rural hellscape.
 
2020-06-25 10:16:07 AM  
Also, there is the random Fiesta and Versa.
 
2020-06-25 10:19:37 AM  
Well, given that they discontinued the Prius C, which is based on the Yaris, this was probably in the works for a while.

/still love my Prius C
 
2020-06-25 10:27:41 AM  
I had one - got totaled sitting in front of my house at just over a year old - loved it - sick gas MPG.

Have a Corolla now - pretty impressive (way over sticker) MPG of 40+ highway for long trips of 70-75 MPH
 
2020-06-25 10:29:07 AM  
Americans have voted. Yawnmobile over one of the last fun-to-drive cars. Never letting go of my Mazda 3.
 
2020-06-25 10:46:16 AM  
Pirates inconsolable.

*YAAAARISSS!"
 
2020-06-25 11:16:16 AM  
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Not again!
 
2020-06-25 11:16:28 AM  
Had a 2001 Echo. Drove it into the ground. Been carless for a while now, but am now looking at either a new Mirage or Spark.

/I like cheap, nimble, and "boring" to drive cars
 
2020-06-25 11:21:55 AM  

Cewley: Americans have voted. Yawnmobile over one of the last fun-to-drive cars. Never letting go of my Mazda 3.


Last I heard, they're more likely to dump the 6 before the 3.
/three liter V6
//second to last model year for that engine
///no clue about the turbo, but that was always out of my price range
 
2020-06-25 11:29:20 AM  

wooden_badger: Well, given that they discontinued the Prius C, which is based on the Yaris, this was probably in the works for a while.

/still love my Prius C


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The North American Yaris is a re-nosed Mazda2, you can actually buy a Mazda2 in Puerto Rico

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The Yaris sold in Europe in Asia is now on the TNGA platform, and does come as a hybrid
 
2020-06-25 11:30:36 AM  
The Yaris always was and always will be garbage, like the Echo before it.
 
2020-06-25 11:44:06 AM  

bhcompy: The Yaris always was and always will be garbage, like the Echo before it.


I recommended an ECHO to a family friend when he and his wife needed an affordable car. That was 2004. Its still running great. Most people need nothing more than reliable inexpensive cars.
 
2020-06-25 11:50:15 AM  
I've only seen one Yaris commercial, but it was obvious they were being marketed to people who spend $600 on a pair of sneakers with some jock's name on them.
 
2020-06-25 11:58:51 AM  

arrogantbastich: Odd, my neighbrohood is littered with Mirages and Fits with the odd Yaris or Spark. But then again, I live in a city and not in an empty rural hellscape.


Conversely an electrical engineer I worked with at a prior job lives in the country outside of OKC and commutes to/from work daily on I-35 for an hour each way.  It's almost comical to see him, a very large, graybeard, Vietnam vet man get in and out of his Yaris but he likes it and its fuel economy.

BTW, he grows grapes and makes wine on his empty rural hellscape.
 
2020-06-25 11:59:51 AM  

bhcompy: The Yaris always was and always will be garbage, like the Echo before it.


I rented a Yaris once when I had to travel out of state for work. That was the most uncomfortable car I have had the displeasure to drive. I was so happy to return that and get back to my own car.
 
2020-06-25 12:03:09 PM  
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NOOOOOO!
 
2020-06-25 12:03:10 PM  

natazha: I've only seen one Yaris commercial, but it was obvious they were being marketed to people who spend $600 on a pair of sneakers with some jock's name on them.


Yeah, you should never buy a product if you don't like who you perceive it's being marketed to.
 
2020-06-25 12:04:55 PM  

SansNeural: arrogantbastich: Odd, my neighbrohood is littered with Mirages and Fits with the odd Yaris or Spark. But then again, I live in a city and not in an empty rural hellscape.

Conversely an electrical engineer I worked with at a prior job lives in the country outside of OKC and commutes to/from work daily on I-35 for an hour each way.  It's almost comical to see him, a very large, graybeard, Vietnam vet man get in and out of his Yaris but he likes it and its fuel economy.

BTW, he grows grapes and makes wine on his empty rural hellscape.


Good for him. When I lived out in a empty rural hellscape, you didn't drive after dark because you couldn't always see to dodge the drunks.
 
2020-06-25 12:06:36 PM  

arrogantbastich: SansNeural: arrogantbastich: Odd, my neighbrohood is littered with Mirages and Fits with the odd Yaris or Spark. But then again, I live in a city and not in an empty rural hellscape.

Conversely an electrical engineer I worked with at a prior job lives in the country outside of OKC and commutes to/from work daily on I-35 for an hour each way.  It's almost comical to see him, a very large, graybeard, Vietnam vet man get in and out of his Yaris but he likes it and its fuel economy.

BTW, he grows grapes and makes wine on his empty rural hellscape.

Good for him. When I lived out in a empty rural hellscape, you didn't drive after dark because you couldn't always see to dodge the drunks.


Heh, he doesn't drive after dark because he's too drunk to see the road.
 
2020-06-25 12:10:18 PM  

Electrify: am now looking at either a new Mirage or Spark


Either are fine for local commuting if you fit in them. I rented a Spark in Florida and the engine was greatly underpowered for highway driving, but it managed. I did not fit in the seats without my knee being jammed up against the center console.

A Chevy Cruze would be a better upgrade if you can find a new one still on dealership lots, or maybe a slightly used one. With the turbocharged gasoline engine in that car, use at least mid-grade fuel and use premium in summer.

My local Mitsubishi dealership is selling Mirages for $9,990. With that small of an engine, buy the manual transmission. The automatic is a CVT and saps enough power from what is already a 3-cylinder 75 horsepower engine.
 
2020-06-25 12:11:40 PM  
Oh, subby, don't you know you're only supposed to use that acronym for Fiats?
 
2020-06-25 12:28:40 PM  
The problem with smaller vehicles is math.  A $15,000 small car costs the company $14,000 to make.  A $19,000 slightly larger car costs the company $17,000 to make.  Heck, in some circumstances, a $15,000 small car might cost the company $16,000 to make.  Meanwhile, a $40,000 large SUV or pickup costs the company $30,000 to make.

That is, people are only willing to pay a very small amount for a smaller car; the demand for such is low under normal circumstances, especially in the US with wide open spaces and a car tax system not tied to engine displacement.  (In Japan and parts/all of Europe, the larger the engine, the higher the yearly registration tax.)
 
2020-06-25 12:35:58 PM  

Trocadero: Cewley: Americans have voted. Yawnmobile over one of the last fun-to-drive cars. Never letting go of my Mazda 3.

Last I heard, they're more likely to dump the 6 before the 3.
/three liter V6
//second to last model year for that engine
///no clue about the turbo, but that was always out of my price range


Agreed.  I have a 2006 Mazda 3 hatchback that's a blast to drive with 185K miles on it still with the 2.3L engine.  If that engine goes, I'll do a 2.5L Ford engine swap to keep it going.  Insurance is cheap, the car is reliable, and people are agog at how handy a hatchback is for hauling.
 
2020-06-25 12:37:48 PM  

cocozilla: bhcompy: The Yaris always was and always will be garbage, like the Echo before it.

I recommended an ECHO to a family friend when he and his wife needed an affordable car. That was 2004. Its still running great. Most people need nothing more than reliable inexpensive cars.


They go places, but not comfortably.  A Saturn SL is more comfortable than that thing
 
2020-06-25 12:41:36 PM  
We're on our second Yaris after the first got totalled by the wife. $14k new and 35mpg highway. The horror. How dare people want an affordable commuter car, this is America!
 
2020-06-25 12:41:42 PM  

Electrify: Had a 2001 Echo. Drove it into the ground. Been carless for a while now, but am now looking at either a new Mirage or Spark.

/I like cheap, nimble, and "boring" to drive cars


cocozilla: bhcompy: The Yaris always was and always will be garbage, like the Echo before it.

I recommended an ECHO to a family friend when he and his wife needed an affordable car. That was 2004. Its still running great. Most people need nothing more than reliable inexpensive cars.


I have a 2006 Scion xA which I bought new, which is an Echo with a different body (same frame, same engine/transmission (even though the Yaris had replaced the Echo by 2006 the first gen xA and xB were based on the older Echo)).  I'm going to keep it until it dies, which will probably be sometime during Biden's Vice President's second term as President.  Only negative is that it is slightly underpowered.  Otherwise, fun to chuck around corners, lots of room for how small it is on the outside, good outside visibility, good gas mileage, comfy enough for long trips, extremely reliable, what's not to love?
 
2020-06-25 12:43:14 PM  
Most buyers would do better with a clean, late model Corolla than a new Yaris.
 
2020-06-25 12:51:10 PM  
I had a Yaris for 12 years of long hard commuting in back-roads Canuckistan.
It was small & boring but feckin' bulletproof! My daughter drove it for another year after I 'upgraded'.
Drove it to the junkyard under its own power.
 
2020-06-25 12:58:32 PM  

natazha: I've only seen one Yaris commercial, but it was obvious they were being marketed to people who spend $600 on a pair of sneakers with some jock's name on them.


God, I remember the first ads.  Some dweeb screaming "YARIS!  IT'S A CAR!!!"
 
2020-06-25 1:27:36 PM  
I have a 2010 Honda FIT with 230K miles and still going strong.  Cost me $10K used in 2013.

I plan on buying another used FIT next year and passing this one down to the kids.

Screw Toyota and their commitment to pricing themselves out of the market.
 
2020-06-25 1:31:10 PM  
I just traded up from a Corolla to a RAV 4 (hybrid, AWD).  It's so much more civilized.  I'm looking forward to how it does in the snow.  The Corolla was terrible in winter.
 
2020-06-25 1:39:11 PM  

NewWorldDan: I just traded up from a Corolla to a RAV 4 (hybrid, AWD).  It's so much more civilized.  I'm looking forward to how it does in the snow.  The Corolla was terrible in winter.


I'm considering methods of converting my old '94 Toyota pickup to all electric.  Simplest way might be to sladapt (slap/adapt) a 100 HP, 480 Volt, 3 phase induction motor under the hood and strap a used VFAC drive and a shiatpack of lithium cells in the bed.  A more challenging but versatile way would be building a multi-stage brushless DC motor and driver(s).
 
2020-06-25 1:40:09 PM  
Yaris owner here. First model year of the sedan. Never a mechanical problem with it. Certain trim features are falling apart (speakers, visor, etc) and people seem to try to go out of their way to hit me, but all the important parts are as reliable as ever.
 
2020-06-25 1:57:50 PM  

NewWorldDan: I just traded up from a Corolla to a RAV 4 (hybrid, AWD).  It's so much more civilized.  I'm looking forward to how it does in the snow.  The Corolla was terrible in winter.


I have a 2009 Corolla and it is great in the snow.  Little skinny wheels, FWD.   My youngest is driving it now.   Wife got a  2019 Rav 4 AWD and we love it.  Rav4 is a great road trip car;  Comforable, high vis, great gas mileage.
 
2020-06-25 10:15:22 PM  

oldfarthenry: I had a Yaris for 12 years of long hard commuting in back-roads Canuckistan.
It was small & boring but feckin' bulletproof! My daughter drove it for another year after I 'upgraded'.
Drove it to the junkyard under its own power.


I got 446k miles out of an '07 Yaris, then a transaxle coupling broke and spilled it's gear oil all over the highway.
Then I drove it to a dealer to buy a new car. Bulletproof indeed! I was going to retire it at 500k, but the workhorse broke it's leg.
 
2020-06-25 11:05:23 PM  
The hidden truth behind all your undying Yaris stories is none of you traded it in and bought another one midway through its life span.
 
2020-06-25 11:27:41 PM  

arrogantbastich: The hidden truth behind all your undying Yaris stories is none of you traded it in and bought another one midway through its life span.


Yeah, very true, but the Yaris had no major mechanical problems until it's demise, just consumables. My previous car was a Saturn SL that was just becoming a pain in the arse with the amount of little crap that just needed to be replaced to keep it on the road. I retired that one at 220k.
 
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