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(Fox 43 Pennsylvania)   So when the COVID-19 vaccine becomes available, who will be the first to get it?   (fox43.com) divider line
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2020-06-25 7:06:31 AM  
Rich white people, only after it's tested on the poorest of poors to make sure they don't outright die from it
 
2020-06-25 7:16:32 AM  
Review who got, hoarded, the Tamiflu during the H1N1 panic.
Hint: NOT YOU
 
2020-06-25 7:22:23 AM  
I'll wait until the rush dies down.
 
2020-06-25 7:54:55 AM  
The homeless. you always test it on the homeless first.

/The rich, duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... Why are we even asking this?
 
2020-06-25 10:07:28 AM  
That's assuming that it's not immediately co-opted and only available to FlammenTrumpers.
 
2020-06-25 10:10:15 AM  
If it were available to me on day 1, I'd still wait six months to see if any side effects had been discovered.
 
TWX [TotalFark]
2020-06-25 10:18:42 AM  
I'd postulated before, the elderly (like 75+) and those with medical conditoins that leave them highly at-risk first.  Probably medical professionals along with or next.  Then seniors, and slowly working down the age-groups depending on demand.

And given how the likelihood of dying follows an exponential curve similar to the graph (ignore the particular labels) with the X-axis being age:

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It's right to start administering the vaccine to the most at-risk first.  The likelihood of dying from it as a forty year old is almost as low as dying from it as an eighteen year old, but the likelihood of dying from it as a 55 year old is much higher, and as a 70 year old, much, MUCH higher.
 
TWX [TotalFark]
2020-06-25 10:21:09 AM  

8 inches: If it were available to me on day 1, I'd still wait six months to see if any side effects had been discovered.


That may be difficult to gauge if they try to administer to those at greatest risk first, and six months might not tell you anything useful anyway.  Often vaccine development processes take decades because they normally want to make sure that the vaccines don't give people cancer.  Seasonal flu has a quick turnaround only because the development process is mature already.
 
2020-06-25 10:40:21 AM  
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2020-06-25 10:42:14 AM  
Somebody who's been wearing a mask.
 
2020-06-25 10:48:28 AM  

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him first.
Let them work the bugs out on the first few million.
 
2020-06-25 10:59:31 AM  
Well, with a competent government, we already had a plan on what order to give the vaccine.

With this government, you'll get your vaccine when you vote Republican.
 
2020-06-25 11:04:31 AM  

iheartscotch: That's assuming that it's not immediately co-opted and only available to FlammenTrumpers.


Hmm, assuming the Trumpiest of the Trumpers will be in jail once this administration is voted out... Do you really think the Biden administration will be cruel enough to test the vaccine on prisoners?
 
2020-06-25 11:20:01 AM  
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2020-06-25 11:42:47 AM  
Trick question.  There will not be a vaccine.
 
2020-06-25 11:54:05 AM  
If it magically gets approved this October by the Trump FDA. . .definitely Not Me.  That approval will be suspicious as all hell and probably a very questionable vaccine.

If it's approved next Spring, and not just by the FDA (hopefully in a Biden Administration), but also by the relevant agencies of other countries like Canada, the UK etc. and is endorsed by the WHO?  Yeah, I'll line up to get it.
 
2020-06-25 12:00:15 PM  

8 inches: If it were available to me on day 1, I'd still wait six months to see if any side effects had been discovered.


You're a lot more likely to see the "vaccinated but still got covid" stories. I'd like to think we have enough experience in general to make a safe vaccine, it's the effective part I'm concerned about.
 
2020-06-25 12:17:07 PM  
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2020-06-25 12:20:37 PM  
It's probably coming 6 months after the AIDS vaccine.
 
7 days ago  
After it's thoroughly tested and cleared for the general public to receive, the first people to receive it will be President Biden and his senior staff.
 
7 days ago  

TWX: I'd postulated before, the elderly (like 75+) and those with medical conditoins that leave them highly at-risk first.  Probably medical professionals along with or next.  Then seniors, and slowly working down the age-groups depending on demand.

And given how the likelihood of dying follows an exponential curve similar to the graph (ignore the particular labels) with the X-axis being age:

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It's right to start administering the vaccine to the most at-risk first.  The likelihood of dying from it as a forty year old is almost as low as dying from it as an eighteen year old, but the likelihood of dying from it as a 55 year old is much higher, and as a 70 year old, much, MUCH higher.


This is how it should be distributed.  Basically, the groups you listed (old people, people with underlying health conditions, medical workers who possibly are exposed to megadoses of the virus at their jobs) are pretty much the only people who really have to fear dying from the thing, so they absolutely should get it first.

Now, whether reality matches theory is another thing.
 
7 days ago  

TWX: I'd postulated before, the elderly (like 75+) and those with medical conditoins that leave them highly at-risk first.  Probably medical professionals along with or next.  Then seniors, and slowly working down the age-groups depending on demand.


Reverse those.  Medical providers (including anyone who works directly with the elderly) first.
 
7 days ago  

Ambivalence: You're a lot more likely to see the "vaccinated but still got covid" stories. I'd like to think we have enough experience in general to make a safe vaccine, it's the effective part I'm concerned about.


Also, people are terrible with the concept of statistics.  See all the morans who thought a 30% chance of Trump winning = 0%.

They are the same ones who say, "flu vaccine is only 70% effective, so why bother?"
 
7 days ago  
A poor college student who got paid $15 to take it and didn't bother to read the waiver
 
TWX [TotalFark]
6 days ago  

BMFPitt: TWX: I'd postulated before, the elderly (like 75+) and those with medical conditoins that leave them highly at-risk first.  Probably medical professionals along with or next.  Then seniors, and slowly working down the age-groups depending on demand.

Reverse those.  Medical providers (including anyone who works directly with the elderly) first.


That doesn't work because many of the elderly receive some kind of regular care from people that aren't classed as medical workers.  Think of the nonmedical staff in assisted living apartments like housekeeping staff, kitchen staff, dining hall staff, grounds, maintenance, those who come in for periodic grooming tasks like hair and finger/toenail trimming, etc, and that's before accounting for family, having to go grocery shopping, and other necessary trips out into the world.  Hell, even sitting in medical appointment waiting rooms.

The elderly and the infirm have a lot of contacts that wouldn't be early in-line for vaccination, thus they need it right at the beginning.
 
6 days ago  

TWX: That doesn't work because many of the elderly receive some kind of regular care from people that aren't classed as medical workers.


That's why I added them explicitly.
 
6 days ago  

snocone: Review who got, hoarded, the Tamiflu during the H1N1 panic.
Hint: NOT YOU


I got Tamiflu when my whole family got H1N1. It was generally available at the time. We got it during the big early Fall wave before it disappeared.

My son hit the jackpot with it. He scored the super-immunity. He literally hasn't been sick since. He went all the way through elementary school without once getting so much as a cough or sniffle.

The vaccine you want is H1N5. That is some scary shiat.
 
6 days ago  
They'll charge $1000 a shot. The rich will get theirs first. Trump will confiscate the rest and sell it overseas while pocketing the money.
 
6 days ago  
Duh, the rich and powerful.  Same as for everything else.  Which is as it should be.
 
6 days ago  
Well, we could just examine who the CDC has on its Tier 1 priority.

Sure, this is for an influenza pandemic, but I get the feeling they'd use this same prioritization for COVID as well.

There's a link on that page to Tiers 2-5.

My wife, being a health worker, would be Tier 1. I would end up likely in Tier 5.
 
6 days ago  

durbnpoisn: Trick question.  There will not be a vaccine.


Absolutely correct. 2 - 3 years at the absolute minimum including a miracle. If it ever happens at all.
 
6 days ago  
This farking article again? Does this count as a repeat even if the person dusted it off and rewrote it?
 
6 days ago  

psilocyberguy: durbnpoisn: Trick question.  There will not be a vaccine.

Absolutely correct. 2 - 3 years at the absolute minimum including a miracle. If it ever happens at all.


It will happen. Think positive. But hey nobody is making you get it.
 
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