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(Ars Technica)   Google: Sure, you already own your own music and you bought a set of wireless home speakers from us, but you aren't allowed to play your music on your speakers unless you pay us a monthly fee   (arstechnica.com) divider line
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2020-06-24 9:03:39 PM  
This is going to suck. I have every song I have ever purchased or ripped from CD's I paid for on google music. I installed android head in my car so I could access that library and sync it to local storage. Its too large of a library to manage with the native player. Not sure what I am going to do.

Any suggestions?

I will not pay for a streaming service. Napster works just fine in the car.
 
2020-06-24 9:17:22 PM  

sammyk: This is going to suck. I have every song I have ever purchased or ripped from CD's I paid for on google music. I installed android head in my car so I could access that library and sync it to local storage. Its too large of a library to manage with the native player. Not sure what I am going to do.

Any suggestions?

I will not pay for a streaming service. Napster works just fine in the car.


Use Napster instead of Google.

Or put MP3s on your phone and get an aux cable.
 
2020-06-24 9:19:30 PM  

King Something: sammyk: This is going to suck. I have every song I have ever purchased or ripped from CD's I paid for on google music. I installed android head in my car so I could access that library and sync it to local storage. Its too large of a library to manage with the native player. Not sure what I am going to do.

Any suggestions?

I will not pay for a streaming service. Napster works just fine in the car.

Use Napster instead of Google.

Or put MP3s on your phone and get an aux cable.


Or a Bluetooth adapter - I have an android with a 256GB card in it to carry my tunes with me - and maintain a similar setup for my wife.
 
2020-06-24 9:19:32 PM  
Well, bye.
 
2020-06-24 9:24:49 PM  

King Something: sammyk: This is going to suck. I have every song I have ever purchased or ripped from CD's I paid for on google music. I installed android head in my car so I could access that library and sync it to local storage. Its too large of a library to manage with the native player. Not sure what I am going to do.

Any suggestions?

I will not pay for a streaming service. Napster works just fine in the car.

Use Napster instead of Google.

Or put MP3s on your phone and get an aux cable.


Napster is still a thing?
 
2020-06-24 9:32:19 PM  

sammyk: This is going to suck. I have every song I have ever purchased or ripped from CD's I paid for on google music. I installed android head in my car so I could access that library and sync it to local storage. Its too large of a library to manage with the native player. Not sure what I am going to do.

Any suggestions?

I will not pay for a streaming service. Napster works just fine in the car.


Might look at Plex, not perfect put it'll work if you can leave a computer running (even a Raspberry Pi)
 
2020-06-24 9:35:04 PM  
I have a different problem. I subscribe to Apple Music for my android, have had Apple for a long time sans subscription previously.  Lots of my catalog collection is uploaded to the cloud. Generally Apple will still play those songs - but they'll substitute MY versions (cleaned up/SFW) and change them to NSFW versions.  That, or they'll decide "You would prefer THIS version much more!" Invariably a 25-minute megamix shows up, or a re-recorded version "by one or more of the original band members". They've also decided "if we don't play Deadeye Dick's 'New Age Girl' anymore, you won't be able to hear your upload either.
 
2020-06-24 9:51:12 PM  

sammyk: This is going to suck. I have every song I have ever purchased or ripped from CD's I paid for on google music. I installed android head in my car so I could access that library and sync it to local storage. Its too large of a library to manage with the native player. Not sure what I am going to do.

Any suggestions?

I will not pay for a streaming service. Napster works just fine in the car.


So there is the thing. Google music is a free service.  You were getting something for free and you had no problem with it when it was for free.  Now you feel it is an affront to your dignity that someone who had previously given you free storage space on a server you do not pay for now wants to charge you for it.

Hey you bought the music, but why do you have a problem paying for it to be stored on devices that are not your own?

I work for Apple, and while I do not work in Itunes, as a Senior Tech, I do get the occasional call escalated to me from an angry customer.

See, when we sell you a song or a movie and you download it you are supposed to archive it yourself.  Now as a courtesy we let you download it as much as you want. However if the artist, record company, or movie studio, decides to pull it from Itunes, people demand a refund, and we tell them know because they should have kept a copy of their own.

So while I can feel your "hurt" you really have no reason to biatch because a free service is no longer free.

You can get a cheap Sanza player and put a 128 gig card it. and if you need to carry 128 gig or more of music with you, well, that is a whole other issue.

There are plenty of services that will store your music in the cloud for cheap.

You can get them for for like 50 bucks a year for 500 gigs.

I run a plex server on an old machine.
 
2020-06-24 9:54:34 PM  

farkingbubbler: I have a different problem. I subscribe to Apple Music for my android, have had Apple for a long time sans subscription previously.  Lots of my catalog collection is uploaded to the cloud. Generally Apple will still play those songs - but they'll substitute MY versions (cleaned up/SFW) and change them to NSFW versions.  That, or they'll decide "You would prefer THIS version much more!" Invariably a 25-minute megamix shows up, or a re-recorded version "by one or more of the original band members". They've also decided "if we don't play Deadeye Dick's 'New Age Girl' anymore, you won't be able to hear your upload either.


I work for Apple.

The deal with the record company's is that they have to play their sanctioned versions.  If a record company decides that they do not want it any longer in the catalog, then it is removed. Not an Apple choice.  And all of that is in the TOS.

No one needs to hear New Age Girl.  shiattiest band on the planet.  Worst 8 dollars I ever spent and the lead singer pissed his pants on stage he was so tanked. So them in a place called Bullwinkles in Thibodaux. At least it was all you could drink.
 
2020-06-24 10:02:24 PM  

theflatline: See, when we sell you a song or a movie and you download it you are supposed to archive it yourself


The cloud went from the last place to put everything, to the first place to put everything.  Keeping a copy safe at home fell by the wayside for a lot of people.

Storage is cheap.  Get some.
 
2020-06-24 10:08:09 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: theflatline: See, when we sell you a song or a movie and you download it you are supposed to archive it yourself

The cloud went from the last place to put everything, to the first place to put everything.  Keeping a copy safe at home fell by the wayside for a lot of people.

Storage is cheap.  Get some.


i am looking at two 4 TB drives that I paid 50 bucks each for. Once backs up all the data from the other one and there is a third that gets rotated in once a month that goes into a bank box.

And I am a lazy fark.
 
2020-06-24 10:47:30 PM  
I knew there was shifty bullcrap afoot when playing a youtube video would cause my 'play music' stream to pause after a song because 'no more then one device' crap.  I hate youtube's attempts at merging content types and I"ll actively resist it.

I like the paid play music platform, wife and I are on a family subscription so its a pretty cheap way to have ethereal access to virtually the entire world's music catalog at one's finger tips.  No mucking around with files or remembering to transfer X to Y, or ripping those 20th century physical storage media discs like a damned cave man.
 
2020-06-24 10:51:56 PM  
 
2020-06-24 10:59:36 PM  

theflatline: Marcus Aurelius: theflatline: See, when we sell you a song or a movie and you download it you are supposed to archive it yourself

The cloud went from the last place to put everything, to the first place to put everything.  Keeping a copy safe at home fell by the wayside for a lot of people.

Storage is cheap.  Get some.

i am looking at two 4 TB drives that I paid 50 bucks each for. Once backs up all the data from the other one and there is a third that gets rotated in once a month that goes into a bank box.

And I am a lazy fark.


/s
Do you have an onion on your belt too?

I'm lazier than you.  I bought a Western Digital My Cloud. It's saved my ass a few times, like when I went rafting and lost my phone. The phone lasted long enough to upload pics and videos that I had just taken.
 
2020-06-24 11:01:34 PM  
I have avoided buying anything web connected except a PC and a TV. There is no choice anymore with TVs. But I do not connect the TV.  You can local stream anything without needing a web connection.
 
2020-06-24 11:02:43 PM  
They put a restriction on playing your own music through YouTube Music. Whooptee doo. Use a different casting app and quit whining. These people have dumber legal arguments than sovereign citizens.
 
2020-06-24 11:03:06 PM  
And now we have a reason to break up Alphabet.
 
2020-06-24 11:21:42 PM  
I just gave up listening to music.
 
2020-06-24 11:25:31 PM  
Oh, at first I thought the app was going away in favour of the other one and was going to ask for new app recommendations.

But it looks like it's just the "upload your music to Google and play it from there" is going away.

I didn't know that existed.

Just keep your music on your phone and use the old app.
 
2020-06-24 11:29:13 PM  
Sort of like Sonos, where their new software update won't work on their older expensive speakers, and without software the speakers won't work.
 
2020-06-24 11:34:01 PM  
Bummer. Google Play is my online backup for my big-ass music collection. It's easy because whatever gets added to iTunes automatically gets uploaded by the Google music app. I have a local backup, too, but having a free automatic off-site copy is spiffy.
 
2020-06-24 11:35:27 PM  

IronTom: Sort of like Sonos, where their new software update won't work on their older expensive speakers, and without software the speakers won't work.


They really bungled that, but they still support the older speakers just through a split network setup. That is one for old speakers one for new speakers. Requiring two different apps. I think they were trying to please people and made it worse. It at least more made it more confusing.
 
2020-06-24 11:36:13 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: King Something: sammyk: This is going to suck. I have every song I have ever purchased or ripped from CD's I paid for on google music. I installed android head in my car so I could access that library and sync it to local storage. Its too large of a library to manage with the native player. Not sure what I am going to do.

Any suggestions?

I will not pay for a streaming service. Napster works just fine in the car.

Use Napster instead of Google.

Or put MP3s on your phone and get an aux cable.

Napster is still a thing?


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2020-06-24 11:41:46 PM  

jaytkay: Bummer. Google Play is my online backup for my big-ass music collection. It's easy because whatever gets added to iTunes automatically gets uploaded by the Google music app. I have a local backup, too, but having a free automatic off-site copy is spiffy.


That's how I used my Google Music account too.  I run an Emby server (B-list Plex) but I don't use the music portion while on cell data because it doesn't compress a goddamn thing and just sends what ever the file is to you - do that for an hour and it adds up quickly.

I keep a USB drive in my car and my wife's car with our respective music collections on it.  Managing that and the kid's collections as me this close to just paying for Spotify and letting them handle the hassle.  But I'm an old school data collector guy and I won't give up maintaining my personal collection.
 
2020-06-24 11:41:57 PM  
yeah not gonna bother those speakers then, thanks.
 
2020-06-25 12:28:00 AM  
Who goes in for this idiocy? Put the damned music on your phone.
 
2020-06-25 12:36:37 AM  
I pay $120 for Spotify. I get to listen to all the music I could ever want for the least amount of money in my life. It's an absolute bargain.  I m so tired of listening to people whine like little babies.
 
2020-06-25 12:46:42 AM  

theflatline: sammyk: This is going to suck. I have every song I have ever purchased or ripped from CD's I paid for on google music. I installed android head in my car so I could access that library and sync it to local storage. Its too large of a library to manage with the native player. Not sure what I am going to do.

Any suggestions?

I will not pay for a streaming service. Napster works just fine in the car.

So there is the thing. Google music is a free service.  You were getting something for free and you had no problem with it when it was for free.  Now you feel it is an affront to your dignity that someone who had previously given you free storage space on a server you do not pay for now wants to charge you for it.

Hey you bought the music, but why do you have a problem paying for it to be stored on devices that are not your own?

I work for Apple, and while I do not work in Itunes, as a Senior Tech, I do get the occasional call escalated to me from an angry customer.

See, when we sell you a song or a movie and you download it you are supposed to archive it yourself.  Now as a courtesy we let you download it as much as you want. However if the artist, record company, or movie studio, decides to pull it from Itunes, people demand a refund, and we tell them know because they should have kept a copy of their own.

So while I can feel your "hurt" you really have no reason to biatch because a free service is no longer free.

You can get a cheap Sanza player and put a 128 gig card it. and if you need to carry 128 gig or more of music with you, well, that is a whole other issue.

There are plenty of services that will store your music in the cloud for cheap.

You can get them for for like 50 bucks a year for 500 gigs.

I run a plex server on an old machine.


There are games which are no longer sold on Steam or GOG which I can download because it is tied to my account.

If I want, I can still download Flappy Birds to my phone from the Play Store because it is tied to my account. Same goes for music and movies.

From your posts, sounds like you fit in quite well at Apple. Thanks for reminding me why I don't use their products.
 
2020-06-25 12:56:15 AM  

theflatline: I work for Apple.

The deal with the record company's is that they have to play their sanctioned versions.  If a record company decides that they do not want it any longer in the catalog, then it is removed. Not an Apple choice.  And all of that is in the TOS.


I have a bunch of early AAD CDs and to me they sound better than the remastered stuff.  I meet a guy who worked for Virgin starting when Branson was still hand delivering albums to record stores.  He had most of the entire Virgin collection and sometimes he would have half a dozen different versions of what appears the same.  Many were labeled to which version he preferred.
 
2020-06-25 1:04:22 AM  
Suddenly my ancient analog stereo system is looking pretty good.

/the right dual-channel sound card makes jacking music off YouTube embarrassingly easy
 
2020-06-25 1:06:49 AM  

KRSESQ: Suddenly my ancient analog stereo system is looking pretty good.

/the right dual-channel sound card makes jacking music off YouTube embarrassingly easy


I read that very wrong the first...three times.
 
2020-06-25 1:11:19 AM  
Wait, you put your music on someone else's servers, and are suddenly shocked when they decide to charge you money to access those servers?
 
2020-06-25 1:13:04 AM  

KRSESQ: Suddenly my ancient analog stereo system is looking pretty good.

/the right dual-channel sound card makes jacking music off YouTube embarrassingly easy


Phrasing.
 
2020-06-25 1:40:07 AM  

dionysusaur: King Something: sammyk: This is going to suck. I have every song I have ever purchased or ripped from CD's I paid for on google music. I installed android head in my car so I could access that library and sync it to local storage. Its too large of a library to manage with the native player. Not sure what I am going to do.

Any suggestions?

I will not pay for a streaming service. Napster works just fine in the car.

Use Napster instead of Google.

Or put MP3s on your phone and get an aux cable.

Or a Bluetooth adapter - I have an android with a 256GB card in it to carry my tunes with me - and maintain a similar setup for my wife.


Or a new Walkman with Bluetooth. Screw a phone, a dedicated player is the best. DAC's in phones are trash. Bass will hit harder too. Lossless for the win.

There is going to never be a perfect solution. You are going to just have to move your files off the cloud into a player of some type.
 
2020-06-25 1:54:50 AM  

mindset zero: dionysusaur: King Something: sammyk: This is going to suck. I have every song I have ever purchased or ripped from CD's I paid for on google music. I installed android head in my car so I could access that library and sync it to local storage. Its too large of a library to manage with the native player. Not sure what I am going to do.

Any suggestions?

I will not pay for a streaming service. Napster works just fine in the car.

Use Napster instead of Google.

Or put MP3s on your phone and get an aux cable.

Or a Bluetooth adapter - I have an android with a 256GB card in it to carry my tunes with me - and maintain a similar setup for my wife.

Or a new Walkman with Bluetooth. Screw a phone, a dedicated player is the best. DAC's in phones are trash. Bass will hit harder too. Lossless for the win.

There is going to never be a perfect solution. You are going to just have to move your files off the cloud into a player of some type.


Lol.

You do you know DAC stands for, right? I'll give you a clue, Bluetooth doesn't transmit the A in DAC meaning the C part, and subsequently the whole thing, unused. Thus as far as the DAC in the source device is concerned when it comes to Bluetooth...it isn't concerned.
 
2020-06-25 1:58:11 AM  
You basically just said, "Buy an expensive dedicated device but don't use the bit that's better than the one in your phone...because it will sound better?"
 
2020-06-25 2:04:08 AM  
I would say it is obvious that Google is getting shiattier over time.  Get a new service.  For music, just put it on your phone (especially if you have an SD card capable phone) for using it in your car.  If at home, hook your computer to your sound system.  You should have all the storage you could want on your computer with your choice of player.  Even if a laptop you can get Network Attached Storage for cheap that can handle all your media storage/backing up needs.
 
2020-06-25 2:07:35 AM  

dyhchong: mindset zero: dionysusaur: King Something: sammyk: This is going to suck. I have every song I have ever purchased or ripped from CD's I paid for on google music. I installed android head in my car so I could access that library and sync it to local storage. Its too large of a library to manage with the native player. Not sure what I am going to do.

Any suggestions?

I will not pay for a streaming service. Napster works just fine in the car.

Use Napster instead of Google.

Or put MP3s on your phone and get an aux cable.

Or a Bluetooth adapter - I have an android with a 256GB card in it to carry my tunes with me - and maintain a similar setup for my wife.

Or a new Walkman with Bluetooth. Screw a phone, a dedicated player is the best. DAC's in phones are trash. Bass will hit harder too. Lossless for the win.

There is going to never be a perfect solution. You are going to just have to move your files off the cloud into a player of some type.

Lol.

You do you know DAC stands for, right? I'll give you a clue, Bluetooth doesn't transmit the A in DAC meaning the C part, and subsequently the whole thing, unused. Thus as far as the DAC in the source device is concerned when it comes to Bluetooth...it isn't concerned.


I personally prefer to hard-line my set ups. Get sick of the dash unit randomly disconnecting and the lower output.
 
2020-06-25 2:45:10 AM  

dyhchong: mindset zero: dionysusaur: King Something: sammyk: This is going to suck. I have every song I have ever purchased or ripped from CD's I paid for on google music. I installed android head in my car so I could access that library and sync it to local storage. Its too large of a library to manage with the native player. Not sure what I am going to do.

Any suggestions?

I will not pay for a streaming service. Napster works just fine in the car.

Use Napster instead of Google.

Or put MP3s on your phone and get an aux cable.

Or a Bluetooth adapter - I have an android with a 256GB card in it to carry my tunes with me - and maintain a similar setup for my wife.

Or a new Walkman with Bluetooth. Screw a phone, a dedicated player is the best. DAC's in phones are trash. Bass will hit harder too. Lossless for the win.

There is going to never be a perfect solution. You are going to just have to move your files off the cloud into a player of some type.

Lol.

You do you know DAC stands for, right? I'll give you a clue, Bluetooth doesn't transmit the A in DAC meaning the C part, and subsequently the whole thing, unused. Thus as far as the DAC in the source device is concerned when it comes to Bluetooth...it isn't concerned.


On top of that, bluetooth farks with the D as well. Your high quality digital files get to your bluetooth headphones after lossy compression.
 
2020-06-25 3:18:50 AM  

sammyk: This is going to suck. I have every song I have ever purchased or ripped from CD's I paid for on google music. I installed android head in my car so I could access that library and sync it to local storage. Its too large of a library to manage with the native player. Not sure what I am going to do.

Any suggestions?

I will not pay for a streaming service. Napster works just fine in the car.


Use physical media
 
2020-06-25 5:55:32 AM  
Why would you put an online service between your music and your speakers?

Who would do that?
 
2020-06-25 5:57:44 AM  

Russ1642: dyhchong: mindset zero: dionysusaur: King Something: sammyk: This is going to suck. I have every song I have ever purchased or ripped from CD's I paid for on google music. I installed android head in my car so I could access that library and sync it to local storage. Its too large of a library to manage with the native player. Not sure what I am going to do.

Any suggestions?

I will not pay for a streaming service. Napster works just fine in the car.

Use Napster instead of Google.

Or put MP3s on your phone and get an aux cable.

Or a Bluetooth adapter - I have an android with a 256GB card in it to carry my tunes with me - and maintain a similar setup for my wife.

Or a new Walkman with Bluetooth. Screw a phone, a dedicated player is the best. DAC's in phones are trash. Bass will hit harder too. Lossless for the win.

There is going to never be a perfect solution. You are going to just have to move your files off the cloud into a player of some type.

Lol.

You do you know DAC stands for, right? I'll give you a clue, Bluetooth doesn't transmit the A in DAC meaning the C part, and subsequently the whole thing, unused. Thus as far as the DAC in the source device is concerned when it comes to Bluetooth...it isn't concerned.

On top of that, bluetooth farks with the D as well. Your high quality digital files get to your bluetooth headphones after lossy compression.


Yup, I have some bluetooth headphones that can also be wired and they sound 1/4 of the price over bluetooth.

Wired they are fantastic.

Very interesting to see just how much music you lose over bluetooth.
 
2020-06-25 6:26:23 AM  

King Something: sammyk: This is going to suck. I have every song I have ever purchased or ripped from CD's I paid for on google music. I installed android head in my car so I could access that library and sync it to local storage. Its too large of a library to manage with the native player. Not sure what I am going to do.

Any suggestions?

I will not pay for a streaming service. Napster works just fine in the car.

Use Napster instead of Google.

Or put MP3s on your phone and get an aux cable.


The deck in my car is basically an android tablet, with micro SD slot and 2 USB ports so I can go direct. The problem is being able to find what I want to listen to. My MP3 collection is gigantic.
 
2020-06-25 6:29:43 AM  

theflatline: sammyk: This is going to suck. I have every song I have ever purchased or ripped from CD's I paid for on google music. I installed android head in my car so I could access that library and sync it to local storage. Its too large of a library to manage with the native player. Not sure what I am going to do.

Any suggestions?

I will not pay for a streaming service. Napster works just fine in the car.

So there is the thing. Google music is a free service.  You were getting something for free and you had no problem with it when it was for free.  Now you feel it is an affront to your dignity that someone who had previously given you free storage space on a server you do not pay for now wants to charge you for it.

Hey you bought the music, but why do you have a problem paying for it to be stored on devices that are not your own?

I work for Apple, and while I do not work in Itunes, as a Senior Tech, I do get the occasional call escalated to me from an angry customer.

See, when we sell you a song or a movie and you download it you are supposed to archive it yourself.  Now as a courtesy we let you download it as much as you want. However if the artist, record company, or movie studio, decides to pull it from Itunes, people demand a refund, and we tell them know because they should have kept a copy of their own.

So while I can feel your "hurt" you really have no reason to biatch because a free service is no longer free.

You can get a cheap Sanza player and put a 128 gig card it. and if you need to carry 128 gig or more of music with you, well, that is a whole other issue.

There are plenty of services that will store your music in the cloud for cheap.

You can get them for for like 50 bucks a year for 500 gigs.

I run a plex server on an old machine.


1. Google music is ad supported. I do frequently listen to the "station" and listen to the ads.
2. I'm not butthurt about it. Just trying to find a solution for cataloging the music I paid for that I am perfectly willing to store locally on a thumb drive in my car and on my phone. So get off your high horse and STFU.
 
2020-06-25 6:35:51 AM  

BlazeTrailer: sammyk: This is going to suck. I have every song I have ever purchased or ripped from CD's I paid for on google music. I installed android head in my car so I could access that library and sync it to local storage. Its too large of a library to manage with the native player. Not sure what I am going to do.

Any suggestions?

I will not pay for a streaming service. Napster works just fine in the car.

Use physical media


That's a hard no, I am talking about a music collection gathered over 40 years. Yes I want it in my car and on all my devices.
 
2020-06-25 6:38:43 AM  

sammyk: theflatline: sammyk: This is going to suck. I have every song I have ever purchased or ripped from CD's I paid for on google music. I installed android head in my car so I could access that library and sync it to local storage. Its too large of a library to manage with the native player. Not sure what I am going to do.

Any suggestions?

I will not pay for a streaming service. Napster works just fine in the car.

So there is the thing. Google music is a free service.  You were getting something for free and you had no problem with it when it was for free.  Now you feel it is an affront to your dignity that someone who had previously given you free storage space on a server you do not pay for now wants to charge you for it.

Hey you bought the music, but why do you have a problem paying for it to be stored on devices that are not your own?

I work for Apple, and while I do not work in Itunes, as a Senior Tech, I do get the occasional call escalated to me from an angry customer.

See, when we sell you a song or a movie and you download it you are supposed to archive it yourself.  Now as a courtesy we let you download it as much as you want. However if the artist, record company, or movie studio, decides to pull it from Itunes, people demand a refund, and we tell them know because they should have kept a copy of their own.

So while I can feel your "hurt" you really have no reason to biatch because a free service is no longer free.

You can get a cheap Sanza player and put a 128 gig card it. and if you need to carry 128 gig or more of music with you, well, that is a whole other issue.

There are plenty of services that will store your music in the cloud for cheap.

You can get them for for like 50 bucks a year for 500 gigs.

I run a plex server on an old machine.

1. Google music is ad supported. I do frequently listen to the "station" and listen to the ads.
2. I'm not butthurt about it. Just trying to find a solution for cataloging the music I paid for that I am perfe ...


I'd like to add another GFY. I pay google for 100GB storage manually, there is plenty of space left over for my music collection. Just cause I want to keep the same convenience I have enjoyed for years doesn't make me a freeloader.

A brand ambassador you are not. Thanks for reminding me why I do not and will not buy Apple products and will always think their fanboys are pretentious pricks.
 
2020-06-25 7:35:23 AM  
This is why I run my own plex server, which ensures I have full access to my entire media library, anywhere, and nobody can take it away.
 
2020-06-25 7:58:15 AM  
Head to eBay and get a squeezebox. Mine is pushing 15 years old and still works great.

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2020-06-25 10:47:12 AM  
Google can eat shiat if they want me to give money to YouTube.

I still feel dirty for buying Hotline Miami 1 and 2 on Google play when i had an android tablet....

The only music I listen to is video game soundtracks that I've downloaded from steam they better not take that shiat away
 
2020-06-25 11:16:31 AM  
This is why I like physical media. And my own hard drive, networking system.
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WACS700.  Got it in 2006. The main unit automatically rips your CDs to its hard drive, and can broadcast to six of the satellite units by wifi, with each playing a different song or all playing the same. And you plug it into your PC and share music from your PC as well.

And doesn't depend on Google or anyone turning it off any time they want.
 
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