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(KTVZ Bend)   "I roundly reject the notion we're somehow in the way of reform" claims man who is trying to stop reform   (ktvz.com) divider line
    More: Murica, Police, Oregon's law enforcement unions, Michael Selvaggio, police accountability bills, Oregon Public Broadcasting, member of the legislative People of Color Caucus, Chokehold, Black man  
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2020-06-24 1:13:30 PM  
"It's not that we oppose reform, but simply the direction. We would be far happier if there were no police oversight, all investigations into accountability were handled in house, and if the annual budget were put into an offshore account...lemmee see, I got the number right here..."
 
2020-06-24 6:13:45 PM  
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2020-06-24 6:14:47 PM  
But, he added, the bills have some "very obvious and unworkable mechanisms" and that it "seems to me like they really rushed into this."

These issues have been present for generations. Giving you the authority to police yourselves hasn't worked even the slightest bit. So now you don't get a seat at the table.
 
2020-06-24 6:16:30 PM  
We're not standing in the way, we just oppose some of the unworkable measures in the 6 proposed bills.

Can you be more specific?

*General handwaving at all 6 bills* those measures, the ones on this oversight thing.
 
2020-06-24 6:17:33 PM  
Fark you, cop.
 
2020-06-24 6:18:02 PM  
Since they are unwilling or unable to reform themselves the legislature will have to impose reform. Life as a public servant.
 
2020-06-24 6:19:09 PM  
Your "union" makes Americans less safe.  It does this deliberately and intentionally.

F*ck your "union".
 
2020-06-24 6:20:08 PM  
"Oh hey now, waaaaaait just a minute, we shouldn't stop killing black people quite so fast, let's have a think about this and collect some data for awhile!"
 
2020-06-24 6:27:38 PM  
DRTFA but: GFY.
 
2020-06-24 6:27:42 PM  
Yeah and rapists want more laws against rape. Sure bro
 
2020-06-24 6:31:13 PM  
"It is time for us to go ahead and initiate these reforms," Manning said. "The people demand it."

Damn right. fark the cops and their unions. They work for us and need to play by our rules.
 
2020-06-24 6:31:37 PM  
Oh so you don't want to stand in the way of reform. Cool, cool. Stand aside, then. Be out of the way. Thanks.
 
2020-06-24 6:42:13 PM  

hubiestubert: "It's not that we oppose reform, but simply the direction. We would be far happier if there were no police oversight, all investigations into accountability were handled in house, and if the annual budget were put into an offshore account...lemmee see, I got the number right here..."


Honestly it too me until the "offshore account" to realize it was not a quote from the article.
 
2020-06-24 6:42:26 PM  
Maybe the criminals should just stop being criminals.
 
2020-06-24 6:42:46 PM  
It's cute how people still use the textbook definition of "reform" to describe the crap that goes on in politics.
 
2020-06-24 6:43:22 PM  

TheSwizz: "It is time for us to go ahead and initiate these reforms," Manning said. "The people demand it."

Damn right. fark the cops and their unions. They work for us and need to play by our rules.


James Manning is awesome, and he is one of the few politicians I have been proud to vote for.
 
2020-06-24 6:44:04 PM  
"A conservative is one who stands athwart history yelling 'Stop.'"   -- William F. Buckley Jr.

A reactionary is one who stands athwart equity yelling "Law and Order!" --me, just now
 
2020-06-24 6:51:46 PM  
Is this the same guy who lobbies against pumping their own gas because of the concern for public safety?
 
2020-06-24 6:55:50 PM  
At leased he only addressed the topic roundly, and not squarely.
 
2020-06-24 7:01:34 PM  
You've had multiple opportunities to clean up your own house.  You've refused.  Now it's being cleaned for you.
 
2020-06-24 7:04:03 PM  
So, if ya'll have some issues with the bills, why don't you tell us your issues?  I mean, maybe you want "no tear gas" changed to "no tear gas unless ordered by the governor".  I might be willing to listen to you on that one.  Unfortunately, the fact that you oppose all six f'n bills kind of makes it sound as if this might, maybe, possibly not be a principled objection. And, in that admittedly unlikely case, you can just STFU and not GBTW.
 
2020-06-24 7:13:26 PM  
Instead of filing taxes with the IRS next year, I think I should be allowed to figure out how much to send them.  Who knows, it might be more than they would have wanted.
 
2020-06-24 7:27:38 PM  
Yeah they don't get a seat at the table for this, especially since they are the ones that caused this. So sit back and take it or quit.
 
2020-06-24 7:37:40 PM  
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We're gonna need some new FBI LEO guys I guess.
 
2020-06-24 7:43:11 PM  
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2020-06-24 8:08:04 PM  
roundly reject

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/reject (n)
 
2020-06-24 8:09:44 PM  
Message to police unions.  You don't get a farking say in this.  That ship sailed a long time ago.  So shut your whore mouth and sit your donut filled ass down or we'll have you taken out back and shot.
 
2020-06-24 9:58:37 PM  

joker420: Maybe the criminals should just stop being criminals.


The cops have had plenty of chances to clean their own house.  Now they'll have it done for them.
 
2020-06-25 1:44:13 AM  

common sense is an oxymoron: joker420: Maybe the criminals should just stop being criminals.

The cops have had plenty of chances to clean their own house.  Now they'll have it done for them.


Don't engage, he is either a troll or an ethno state enthusiast, doesn't really matter either way, if he's just trolling it's just as bad as being the other in a situation like this.
 
2020-06-25 4:01:44 AM  
Defund the police.  Close the departments and invest in robust social programs.
 
2020-06-25 1:25:41 PM  
*eyeroll* Jeez, he missed an easy out here.  If he'd just said "Listen, we understand things need to improve and we're eager to help - measures in each of these bills are counterproductive, can we please work together to craft something realistic?", this could have gone in such a better direction.

/his reactionary "no" says so much about him & his.
 
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