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(Engadget)   Olympus has fallen   (engadget.com) divider line
    More: Sad, Digital single-lens reflex camera, camera business, Camera, much larger business, might affect owners of Olympus, Olympus, severe digital camera market, Micro Four Thirds  
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2020-06-24 1:50:22 PM  
7 votes:

AdmirableSnackbar: Makes sense, there isn't a huge market for digital cameras given that most demand for them is satisfied by people's phones.


There is taking pictures and there is photography. They are not the same. Sure, I use my phone for snapshots, but no phone camera will ever compare to what I can do with my Sony full-frame mirrorless camera and G Master lenses.
 
2020-06-24 9:42:20 AM  
5 votes:
Makes sense, there isn't a huge market for digital cameras given that most demand for them is satisfied by people's phones.
 
2020-06-24 1:43:21 PM  
3 votes:

akula: there's really zero reason to own a camera that's not a DSLR nowadays.


My Sony RX10 IV and I respectfully disagree.  Speed, flexibility, and convenience matter, especially when shooting small flying objects at ranges from two feet to infinity.
 
2020-06-24 2:29:20 PM  
2 votes:
They'll probably go the route of Polaroid and Kodak, with some private venture company slapping the brand name on any old POS knockoff digital camera gear made by an Alibaba vendor and sell them at Big Lots and the 4 remaining K-Mart stores.
 
2020-06-24 12:04:47 PM  
2 votes:
My 35 YO OM1 cries quietly in its camera bag
 
2020-06-25 2:09:40 AM  
1 vote:
Straight Outta Hate:

When it comes to taking still pictures, an OVF is exactly what the lens sees at the speed it sees it.

Except I don't care about what the lens sees. I care about the image that ends up on the sensor. EVFs show  the image that ends up on the sensor, but taking into account all the camera settings like exposure, white balance etc.
Then you get the extra stuff you can just overlay onto an EVF, like a real time histogram - again, taking into account things like exposure compensation. Or focus peaking. Or zebra lines. Or...

An EVF can only be as good.
It can never be better.


Of course it can. Just use any mirrorless camera that's been made in the last two or three years.
 
2020-06-24 2:35:16 PM  
1 vote:

AdmirableSnackbar: havana_joe: AdmirableSnackbar: Makes sense, there isn't a huge market for digital cameras given that most demand for them is satisfied by people's phones.

There is taking pictures and there is photography. They are not the same. Sure, I use my phone for snapshots, but no phone camera will ever compare to what I can do with my Sony full-frame mirrorless camera and G Master lenses.

Yes, and the demand for photography equipment is far lower now than it was 15 years ago because people don't need photography equipment anymore to take the kinds of photos they want. There are people who are interested in photography but they aren't in numbers sufficient to prop up the commercial photography industry as it was, again, even 15 years ago.


Photography has ALWAYS been a niche business. Ok, sure, more people had cheap cameras years ago and that helped, but I'm talking pro equipment. Now phones have replaced the cheap cameras, but those who take photography seriously will still support the industry. But there will be consolidation. Samsung should have stuck with the NX line, the NX1 was amazing and ahead of it's time. Olympus is good, but I've personally never liked the M43 format. APS-C in small bodies seems to be the sweet spot, with full-frame as the step-up and medium format hopefully being more widespread as prices decline in the future. Just my opinions, of course.
 
2020-06-24 2:14:14 PM  
1 vote:

havana_joe: AdmirableSnackbar: Makes sense, there isn't a huge market for digital cameras given that most demand for them is satisfied by people's phones.

There is taking pictures and there is photography. They are not the same. Sure, I use my phone for snapshots, but no phone camera will ever compare to what I can do with my Sony full-frame mirrorless camera and G Master lenses.


Yes, and the demand for photography equipment is far lower now than it was 15 years ago because people don't need photography equipment anymore to take the kinds of photos they want. There are people who are interested in photography but they aren't in numbers sufficient to prop up the commercial photography industry as it was, again, even 15 years ago.
 
2020-06-24 1:59:11 PM  
1 vote:
akula:

I still prefer a real camera for some tasks (usually ones requiring telephoto or fast autofocus), but there's really zero reason to own a camera that's not a DSLR nowadays.

I beg your pardon, but mirrorless has won. It's over. Modern EVFs are vastly superior to OVFs, the native mirrorless lenses are just as good (though just as expensive), continuous shooting is better, and the hybrid story (photo and video) is much, much better on mirrorless. Reading the image directly off the sensor also allows for some more computational photography tricks, like the animal detection autofocus feature that Sony and others have.

In 2020 the only reasons to get a DSLR over a mirrorless is if you've got a bunch of glass you'd rather not sell or adapt, or if you really mind carrying an extra battery around.
 
2020-06-24 12:59:08 PM  
1 vote:

AdmirableSnackbar: Makes sense, there isn't a huge market for digital cameras given that most demand for them is satisfied by people's phones.


As the cameras in phones have improved, the market for actual cameras has become microscopically small compared to what it was.

I still prefer a real camera for some tasks (usually ones requiring telephoto or fast autofocus), but there's really zero reason to own a camera that's not a DSLR nowadays.
 
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