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(Marijuana Moment)   Americans consider marijuana consumption more morally acceptable than gay relationships, medical testing of animals, the death penalty and abortion   (marijuanamoment.net) divider line
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2020-06-24 9:35:32 AM  
I only buy pot tested on animals by straight doctors and I only smoke it after I've convinced my girlfriend to have an abortion.
 
2020-06-24 9:52:46 AM  
I guess I have to abandon the phrase "smoke a bone."
 
2020-06-24 11:05:10 AM  
I find it quite fascinating the most morally repugnant thing to do in that list is having an affair
 
2020-06-24 11:10:04 AM  
Translation: conservatives want to get high again.
 
2020-06-24 11:19:35 AM  
Well, Americans are idiots. So, it isn't too surprising.
 
2020-06-24 11:22:29 AM  
A century of anti-marijuana propaganda will do that.
 
2020-06-24 11:22:39 AM  
that's the correct view.
 
2020-06-24 11:26:08 AM  
It's a start. Legalize it on the federal level the rest will mellow.
 
2020-06-24 11:27:02 AM  

WhiskeySticks: It's a start. Legalize it on the federal level the rest will mellow.


The Senate and it's filibuster are things that exist, so good luck!
 
2020-06-24 11:27:37 AM  
A majority of people think pornography is immoral? I guess something being immoral doesn't equate to you not enjoying it?
 
2020-06-24 11:29:27 AM  
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Apparently a lot of men were answering this survey with their wives listening in.
 
2020-06-24 11:30:11 AM  
The only people against legalization are those who profit off of it continuing to be illegal. Yes, I'm looking at you, Sgt Stedenko.
 
2020-06-24 11:31:01 AM  
Im an aborted test monkey on death row for smoking too much weed. But at least im not gay.
 
2020-06-24 11:31:36 AM  
Now, of all times, people are against medical testing on animals?

Do they not understand where our vaccine will come from (if we get one at all)?
 
2020-06-24 11:31:49 AM  
There's no such thing as "moral."

Inhaling smoke (especially during a global pandemic that attacks your lung) and more generalised drug addiction are both foolish, but they're not immoral.
 
2020-06-24 11:32:32 AM  

Diogenes: I guess I have to abandon the phrase "smoke a bone."


You then replace it with "smoke a fatty"?
 
2020-06-24 11:32:57 AM  
And yet, we still can't get it legalized nationally, or in most states.

Because our political system doesn't serve you, it serves whoever pays for it. And the wealthy, by and large, run that show with our systemic corruption in the form of political donations and PACs.
 
2020-06-24 11:33:00 AM  
Not surprised. 

American (particularly Conservative Americans) views on pretty much everything seem to boil down to:

- Is it something I do? In which case, it's sacred and must be protected!
- Is it something other people do but I don't? In which case, fark it, it's immoral.

You can pretty much run through a list of every conservative american viewpoint:

COVID Masks? Affects them negatively and benefits others. fark that.
Lockdowns? Affects them negatively and benefits others. fark that.
Abortions? Doesn't affect them, therefore immoral.
Homosexuality? Doesn't affect them, therefore immoral.
Medicare? If they think they have to pay and it benefits others? fark that.
Poverty? fark that.
Rights of POC? fark that.

It's like the empathy switch in their brain is stuck to "off".
 
2020-06-24 11:33:37 AM  
Swap the gay stuff for "any premarital sex", and yes, I'll agree that weed is more "morally acceptable."

However I also think the average American's idea of "morals" are mostly morally reprehensible, so take that for what you will
 
2020-06-24 11:33:38 AM  

Minus1Kelvin: A majority of people think pornography is immoral? I guess something being immoral doesn't equate to you not enjoying it?


The wickedness adds that special thrill. Just like eating pork or wearing polyester. Ohh, it's getting warm in here...

/I'll be in my bunk.
 
2020-06-24 11:33:46 AM  

Shaggy_C: There's no such thing as "moral."

Inhaling smoke (especially during a global pandemic that attacks your lung) and more generalised drug addiction are both foolish, but they're not immoral.


akchuallee.... it was advised to not quit smoking cigarettes if you are a smoker.
 
2020-06-24 11:34:02 AM  

Minus1Kelvin: A majority of people think pornography is immoral? I guess something being immoral doesn't equate to you not enjoying it?


The pornography I watch is normal.  What you guys watch is disgusting and immoral.
 
2020-06-24 11:37:11 AM  

mrshowrules: Minus1Kelvin: A majority of people think pornography is immoral? I guess something being immoral doesn't equate to you not enjoying it?

The pornography I watch is normal.  What you guys watch is disgusting and immoral.


All pornography is immediately disgusting after you 'finish.'

You know it's true.
 
2020-06-24 11:37:44 AM  

special20: Diogenes: I guess I have to abandon the phrase "smoke a bone."

You then replace it with "smoke a fatty"?


Fark.  My vocabulary's really going to take a hit.

/no pun intended
 
2020-06-24 11:38:19 AM  

mongbiohazard: And yet, we still can't get it legalized nationally, or in most states.

Because our political system doesn't serve you, it serves whoever pays for it.


Why don't you just move to a state that meets your needs for drug availability? It seems to me more like you're serving an economic system because it pays you if you continue to live somewhere you don't like because of a job.
 
2020-06-24 11:40:05 AM  

Shaggy_C: mrshowrules: Minus1Kelvin: A majority of people think pornography is immoral? I guess something being immoral doesn't equate to you not enjoying it?

The pornography I watch is normal.  What you guys watch is disgusting and immoral.

All pornography is immediately disgusting after you 'finish.'

You know it's true.


Le petit remords.
 
2020-06-24 11:42:43 AM  

Shaggy_C: There's no such thing as "moral."

Inhaling smoke (especially during a global pandemic that attacks your lung) and more generalised drug addiction are both foolish, but they're not immoral.


If I weren't so damn mellow right now I'd tell you to go fark yourself.

Instead I will just tell you (cause you seem really open to new and challenging information and all) that marijuana is not addictive, and that edibles and vaping are Things. Please adjust your dumbass rhetoric accordingly.
 
2020-06-24 11:42:45 AM  
Funny part is that they should ask whether or not people think other folks think pot is morally acceptable.

I cannot tell you how many church ladies have walked up to me and gone, "Don't tell XYZ, but I smoke regularly." Usually XYZ is a best friend they've known for years, who also comes up to me and says, "Don't tell ABC, but I smoke regularly." There have been so many times I've wanted to sit them down and go, "You two would actually have a really good time together."
 
2020-06-24 11:45:12 AM  

Shaggy_C: mongbiohazard: And yet, we still can't get it legalized nationally, or in most states.

Because our political system doesn't serve you, it serves whoever pays for it.

Why don't you just move to a state that meets your needs for drug availability? It seems to me more like you're serving an economic system because it pays you if you continue to live somewhere you don't like because of a job.


This might be a solution if weed laws were the only laws that differed between the states.
 
2020-06-24 11:48:29 AM  
Selfish Boomers are getting older and are realizing that marijuana is useful in relieving symptoms related to old age and illnesses. That is the only reason why this has become a discussion in the US now. Otherwise, we would have needed to wait for them to die off first.
 
2020-06-24 11:48:34 AM  

Shaggy_C: mrshowrules: Minus1Kelvin: A majority of people think pornography is immoral? I guess something being immoral doesn't equate to you not enjoying it?

The pornography I watch is normal.  What you guys watch is disgusting and immoral.

All pornography is immediately disgusting after you 'finish.'

You know it's true.


I know.
 
2020-06-24 11:49:54 AM  

edmo: Translation: conservatives want to get high again.


Do you blame them?
The buyer's remorse must be getting pretty damn intense.
 
2020-06-24 11:51:46 AM  
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2020-06-24 11:52:14 AM  

edmo: Translation: conservatives want to get high again.


They always have. Those are called Libertarians
 
2020-06-24 11:55:32 AM  
I'm curious about what Subby thinks the order of those should be, because I see one thing that should be tied and a bunch of stuff that has more moral implications.
 
2020-06-24 11:56:54 AM  

Shaggy_C: There's no such thing as "moral."

Inhaling smoke (especially during a global pandemic that attacks your lung) and more generalised drug addiction are both foolish, but they're not immoral.


I disagree somewhat.  There are definitely things like murder and rape that are clearly immoral.  There are also things that are clearly super-moral, like giving money to feed the poor.

Most of the things one does are neither immoral nor really "super-moral", so they are moral in the sense of not being immoral.
 
2020-06-24 11:59:23 AM  
Stolen from another thread
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/got nothin
 
2020-06-24 12:09:48 PM  
So is this why Barr was going after the weed industry?
 
2020-06-24 12:09:54 PM  

Shaggy_C: mongbiohazard: And yet, we still can't get it legalized nationally, or in most states.

Because our political system doesn't serve you, it serves whoever pays for it.

Why don't you just move to a state that meets your needs for drug availability? It seems to me more like you're serving an economic system because it pays you if you continue to live somewhere you don't like because of a job.


You missed the point.
 
2020-06-24 12:13:33 PM  
The only reason the Moral Outrage™ about the devil's lettuce has gone away is because it's been clearly shown how much money can be made from legal sales.
 
2020-06-24 12:17:32 PM  

alto_reed_on_a_tenor_sax: If I weren't so damn mellow right now I'd tell you to go fark yourself.

Instead I will just tell you (cause you seem really open to new and challenging information and all) that marijuana is not addictive, and that edibles and vaping are Things. Please adjust your dumbass rhetoric accordingly.


"Vaping" is still inhalation of something into the very lungs which COVID-19 ravages so...swing and a miss.

On the other point I agree - I guess eating your drugs is the better choice if you insist on partaking.
 
2020-06-24 12:18:40 PM  
"... gay relationships, medical testing of animals, the death penalty and abortion"

Wow, that brings back memories. Sheldon Klein had the best Bar-Mitzvah.
 
2020-06-24 12:21:13 PM  

Shaggy_C: alto_reed_on_a_tenor_sax: If I weren't so damn mellow right now I'd tell you to go fark yourself.

Instead I will just tell you (cause you seem really open to new and challenging information and all) that marijuana is not addictive, and that edibles and vaping are Things. Please adjust your dumbass rhetoric accordingly.

"Vaping" is still inhalation of something into the very lungs which COVID-19 ravages so...swing and a miss.

On the other point I agree - I guess eating your drugs is the better choice if you insist on partaking.


I'm starting a rumor that eating pot causes bowel cancer if you'd like to get on board with that.
 
2020-06-24 12:23:16 PM  

Shaggy_C: There's no such thing as "moral."

Inhaling smoke (especially during a global pandemic that attacks your lung) and more generalised drug addiction are both foolish, but they're not immoral.


A hundred years worth of American conservatives would like a word....
 
2020-06-24 12:32:07 PM  
Marijuana Use Is More Moral Than Porn, Gay Relations and Wearing Animal Fur, Americans Say

Which "Americans?"  The ones they cherry-picked for this stupid cl*ckbait?
 
2020-06-24 12:38:16 PM  
What follows, of course, is that we need to change the laws to give police protection to the people who profit from producing and selling this garbage.  Amirite?

alto_reed_on_a_tenor_sax:

Instead I will just tell you (cause you seem really open to new and challenging information and all) that marijuana is not addictive,

You will tell us that, but it doesn't make it true.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti​c​les/PMC2797098/

"Some 4.3 percent of Americans have been dependent on marijuana, as defined in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, 4th Edition, Text Revision (DSM-IV-TR; American Psychiatric Association, 2000), at some time in their lives. Marijuana produces dependence less readily than most other illicit drugs. Some 9 percent of those who try marijuana develop dependence compared to, for example, 15 percent of people who try cocaine and 24 percent of those who try heroin. However, because so many people use marijuana, cannabis dependence is twice as prevalent as dependence on any other illicit psychoactive substance (cocaine, 1.8 percent; heroin, 0.7 percent; Anthony and Helzer, 1991; Anthony, Warner, and Kessler, 1994)."
 
2020-06-24 12:43:48 PM  

Shaggy_C: mrshowrules: Minus1Kelvin: A majority of people think pornography is immoral? I guess something being immoral doesn't equate to you not enjoying it?

The pornography I watch is normal.  What you guys watch is disgusting and immoral.

All pornography is immediately disgusting after you 'finish.'

You know it's true.


Disgusting is a bit harsh. I would go with disinteresting
 
2020-06-24 12:44:05 PM  
Really setting the bar high there, I see.
 
2020-06-24 1:08:47 PM  

tirob: What follows, of course, is that we need to change the laws to give police protection to the people who profit from producing and selling this garbage.  Amirite?

alto_reed_on_a_tenor_sax:

Instead I will just tell you (cause you seem really open to new and challenging information and all) that marijuana is not addictive,

You will tell us that, but it doesn't make it true.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/artic​les/PMC2797098/

"Some 4.3 percent of Americans have been dependent on marijuana, as defined in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, 4th Edition, Text Revision (DSM-IV-TR; American Psychiatric Association, 2000), at some time in their lives. Marijuana produces dependence less readily than most other illicit drugs. Some 9 percent of those who try marijuana develop dependence compared to, for example, 15 percent of people who try cocaine and 24 percent of those who try heroin. However, because so many people use marijuana, cannabis dependence is twice as prevalent as dependence on any other illicit psychoactive substance (cocaine, 1.8 percent; heroin, 0.7 percent; Anthony and Helzer, 1991; Anthony, Warner, and Kessler, 1994)."


Outdated cherrypicked bullshiat conducted during a time of total prohibition.

Nobody takes you seriously here.

Nobody.   You make MORE people want to smoke weed.  That has to be your intention.
 
2020-06-24 1:24:33 PM  

tirob: What follows, of course, is that we need to change the laws to give police protection to the people who profit from producing and selling this garbage.  Amirite?

alto_reed_on_a_tenor_sax:

Instead I will just tell you (cause you seem really open to new and challenging information and all) that marijuana is not addictive,

You will tell us that, but it doesn't make it true.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/artic​les/PMC2797098/

"Some 4.3 percent of Americans have been dependent on marijuana, as defined in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, 4th Edition, Text Revision (DSM-IV-TR; American Psychiatric Association, 2000), at some time in their lives. Marijuana produces dependence less readily than most other illicit drugs. Some 9 percent of those who try marijuana develop dependence compared to, for example, 15 percent of people who try cocaine and 24 percent of those who try heroin. However, because so many people use marijuana, cannabis dependence is twice as prevalent as dependence on any other illicit psychoactive substance (cocaine, 1.8 percent; heroin, 0.7 percent; Anthony and Helzer, 1991; Anthony, Warner, and Kessler, 1994)."


Dependent != chemical addiction.

IIRC, pot is not chemically addictive.  You can get into the habit of doing it, like one gets in the habit of playing video games or jogging or watching TV, but that's a mental thing, not a chemical addiction like, say, tobacco.
 
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