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(PoliceOne)   Organization that does its best to shield bad cops from consequences claims that they have been besmirched and that really it's not their fault   (policeone.com) divider line
    More: Murica, Murder, Manslaughter, Leaders of the Minneapolis police union, George Floyd, Malice aforethought, Homicide, Union director Rich Walker, bystander video of the police encounter  
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2020-06-24 8:48:48 AM  
You earned this reputation over decades, assholes.  Don't expect any sympathy.
 
2020-06-24 9:00:03 AM  
Oh dear. What a shame. Never mind
 
2020-06-24 10:44:07 AM  
All unions do this... who knew?  Its their friggin job to protect their members.
 
2020-06-24 10:47:00 AM  
Oh no! Are police unions being profiled?
 
2020-06-24 10:47:23 AM  
FTA: "But Walker questioned statements that Floyd didn't resist officers because the union hasn't seen footage of the minutes leading up to what the bystander video showed."

It doesn't matter. Resisting arrest doesn't warrant a death sentence ya jackwagon.
 
2020-06-24 10:48:01 AM  
How dare they cast an entire organization in a bad light because a handful of them are bad.  That's stereotyping and wrong.  You shouldn't do that.  These are people just trying to go about their daily lives but yet are accosted for no reason at all just because of the group they belong to.  That is so immoral.  Can't we think of the children!?!
 
2020-06-24 10:49:01 AM  
"We don't know if he was resisting arrest or not so, of course, the officer was right to murder him."

I try to be supportive of law enforcement.  I even try to be supportive of unions.  But this kind of crap makes it REALLY difficult.
 
2020-06-24 10:49:13 AM  
Police unions should not exist. Policing is a power structure in such that any additional advocation on the behalf of the police can only lead to an erosion of the rights of those being police. It's unbalanced.
 
2020-06-24 10:50:39 AM  
Cry moar, Nazis.
 
2020-06-24 10:50:42 AM  
Those brave officers were just trying to get home to their families!
 
2020-06-24 10:51:41 AM  
Police dont deserve unions
 
2020-06-24 10:52:01 AM  

dkulprit: How dare they cast an entire organization in a bad light because a handful of them are bad.  That's stereotyping and wrong.  You shouldn't do that.  These are people just trying to go about their daily lives but yet are accosted for no reason at all just because of the group they belong to.  That is so immoral.  Can't we think of the children!?!


There will be people here that don't get what you just did. But I do, and appreciate it.
 
2020-06-24 10:53:29 AM  
The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers police unions.
 
2020-06-24 10:54:42 AM  
Maybe stop assassinating citizens, assholes!
 
2020-06-24 10:54:43 AM  

lifeslammer: Police dont deserve unions


Force them into AFSCME like the rest of us public servants.
 
2020-06-24 10:55:09 AM  
If cops don't want to be seen as violent thugs, maybe they should stop acting like violent thugs!
 
2020-06-24 10:58:02 AM  
For a group that doesn't like being called pigs, they sure squeal like piglets.
 
2020-06-24 10:58:12 AM  

dwrash: All unions do this... who knew?  Its their friggin job to protect their members.


Today is the rare day that Fark and plutocrats agree that unions are bad.
Why would you disrupt that?

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2020-06-24 10:58:40 AM  

NuclearSmegma: FTA: "But Walker questioned statements that Floyd didn't resist officers because the union hasn't seen footage of the minutes leading up to what the bystander video showed."

It doesn't matter. Resisting arrest doesn't warrant a death sentence ya jackwagon.


This.  Innocent until proven guilty doesn't mean the cop is the judge, jury and executioner.

Their job is to arrest people suspected of committing crime and deliver them to the justice system.  If you fail to do that, you have failed at your job.  If the Union wants to protect officers as a whole, it should also strongly condemn the actions of murderers in their ranks.
 
2020-06-24 11:04:26 AM  

dwrash: All unions do this... who knew?  Its their friggin job to protect their members.


All?
 
2020-06-24 11:04:39 AM  

way south: dwrash: All unions do this... who knew?  Its their friggin job to protect their members.

Today is the rare day that Fark and plutocrats agree that unions are bad.
Why would you disrupt that?

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Don't tell them that the Chamber of Commerce is a union for businesses.
 
2020-06-24 11:04:50 AM  
Police unions need to be neutered and only allowed to deal with employment issues for their members.

making sure it a cop is disciplined it is warranted ( this includes being fired) , making sure it's members are paid a wage that is fair for the work they do, making sure worki9ng conditions are as safe as they can be for police work.   All of those are fine.

What they should not be allowed to do is:   provide legal representation for it's members, protect bad cops after all doubt of their guilt has been removed.

What they need to start doing : immediately terminate membership of any former officer once they are fired for a legitimate reason. .
 
2020-06-24 11:05:12 AM  
In the 1930s, the allies tried to placate Hitler, hoping he'd be happy to keep the peace.

The strategy of trying to placate police unions, hoping they'll finally do the right thing, is working about the same.
 
2020-06-24 11:06:32 AM  

NuclearSmegma: FTA: "But Walker questioned statements that Floyd didn't resist officers because the union hasn't seen footage of the minutes leading up to what the bystander video showed."

It doesn't matter. Resisting arrest doesn't warrant a death sentence ya jackwagon.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to recall hearing as part of that incident that before he was on the ground, Floyd was handcuffed in the back of the police car.

Sort of sounds to me like the cops chose to escalate the situation.
 
2020-06-24 11:09:35 AM  

Albert911emt: In the 1930s, the allies tried to placate Hitler, hoping he'd be happy to keep the peace.

The strategy of trying to placate police unions, hoping they'll finally do the right thing, is working about the same.


When you start reading some of the history of conflict between people and the police, you see patterns emerge. Whenever things get heated, the police and politicians will offer olive branches and 'strong rule changes' that never amount to anything. I've seen enough and learned enough to know that police unions here in Arizona protect men who abuse women, men who abuse minorities and men who burn crosses. They cower other officers who might say something.
 
2020-06-24 11:10:31 AM  

ImpendingCynic: NuclearSmegma: FTA: "But Walker questioned statements that Floyd didn't resist officers because the union hasn't seen footage of the minutes leading up to what the bystander video showed."

It doesn't matter. Resisting arrest doesn't warrant a death sentence ya jackwagon.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to recall hearing as part of that incident that before he was on the ground, Floyd was handcuffed in the back of the police car.

Sort of sounds to me like the cops chose to escalate the situation.


Indeed. The video timeline done by NY Times is chilling:
https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/1000​0​0007159353/george-floyd-arrest-death-v​ideo.html
 
2020-06-24 11:11:09 AM  
Sounds like "blindsided" was in reference specifically to the government denying the union access to police videos of the murder. While it would seem ludicrously corrupt to share video with the union but not the public, a reasonable argument could be made for public release of such footage, "ongoing investigation" notwithstanding.
 
2020-06-24 11:12:14 AM  

grimlock1972: Police unions need to be neutered and only allowed to deal with employment issues for their members.

making sure it a cop is disciplined it is warranted ( this includes being fired) , making sure it's members are paid a wage that is fair for the work they do, making sure worki9ng conditions are as safe as they can be for police work.   All of those are fine.

What they should not be allowed to do is:   provide legal representation for it's members, protect bad cops after all doubt of their guilt has been removed.

What they need to start doing : immediately terminate membership of any former officer once they are fired for a legitimate reason. .


I would be perfectly fine with allowing them to provide legal representation if the police union also agreed to pay from their own funds for the wrongful death judgments, permanent disabilities, medical care, property damage, ... ...
They would probably be bankrupted in time for Christmas, then the cops would have to start doing bake sales to get their tacticool gear.
 
2020-06-24 11:13:08 AM  

Nadie_AZ: way south: dwrash: All unions do this... who knew?  Its their friggin job to protect their members.

Today is the rare day that Fark and plutocrats agree that unions are bad.
Why would you disrupt that?

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Don't tell them that the Chamber of Commerce is a union for businesses.


Chamber of Commerce's are voluntary membership.
 
2020-06-24 11:14:11 AM  

rebelyell2006: lifeslammer: Police dont deserve unions

Force them into AFSCME like the rest of us public servants.


Many police unions are AFSCME all ready.  Quite a few in Minnesota as a matter of fact.

Source: AFSCME Local 668 web site.

Would it matter?  A union is a union, and a contract is a contract.  It doesn't matter what name the entity elected by the majority of the workers to represent them takes.

The Teamsters have a whole branch dedicated just to representing law enforcement.

Source:  Teamsters National body web site.

I don't see where AFCME or Teamsters would matter.  To exclude one group of public sector employees pretty much means exposing every public sector employee to being stripped of the right to collectively bargain for conditions and salary.

So baa humbug the cops all you want, but the teacher's unions are right there with 'em.  So unless you're willling to punish all of them, you can't punish just one.

This country needs more unions.  PERIOD.  It's the only way average Americans can claw their way out of the lower and lower middle class.
 
2020-06-24 11:18:08 AM  

Cdr.Murdock: rebelyell2006: lifeslammer: Police dont deserve unions

Force them into AFSCME like the rest of us public servants.

Many police unions are AFSCME all ready.  Quite a few in Minnesota as a matter of fact.

Source: AFSCME Local 668 web site.

Would it matter?  A union is a union, and a contract is a contract.  It doesn't matter what name the entity elected by the majority of the workers to represent them takes.

The Teamsters have a whole branch dedicated just to representing law enforcement.

Source:  Teamsters National body web site.

I don't see where AFCME or Teamsters would matter.  To exclude one group of public sector employees pretty much means exposing every public sector employee to being stripped of the right to collectively bargain for conditions and salary.

So baa humbug the cops all you want, but the teacher's unions are right there with 'em.  So unless you're willling to punish all of them, you can't punish just one.

This country needs more unions.  PERIOD.  It's the only way average Americans can claw their way out of the lower and lower middle class.


When they are AFSCME, they are still in separate locals than everybody else.  Let them have the same contracts, same reps, and same rules as the garbage truck drivers and municipal museum curators.
 
2020-06-24 11:20:50 AM  

Cdr.Murdock: rebelyell2006: lifeslammer: Police dont deserve unions

Force them into AFSCME like the rest of us public servants.

Many police unions are AFSCME all ready.  Quite a few in Minnesota as a matter of fact.

Source: AFSCME Local 668 web site.

Would it matter?  A union is a union, and a contract is a contract.  It doesn't matter what name the entity elected by the majority of the workers to represent them takes.

The Teamsters have a whole branch dedicated just to representing law enforcement.

Source:  Teamsters National body web site.

I don't see where AFCME or Teamsters would matter.  To exclude one group of public sector employees pretty much means exposing every public sector employee to being stripped of the right to collectively bargain for conditions and salary.

So baa humbug the cops all you want, but the teacher's unions are right there with 'em.  So unless you're willling to punish all of them, you can't punish just one.

This country needs more unions.  PERIOD.  It's the only way average Americans can claw their way out of the lower and lower middle class.


We need more unions that do not protect or defend bad actors.  Bad actors hurt the industry as a whole.  They hurt the unions attempt at improving conditions and safety.  Part of defending an industry of workers should be defending it against people who do harm to its reputation.
 
2020-06-24 11:22:25 AM  

dwrash: All unions do this... who knew?  Its their friggin job to protect their members.


Yeah all those teachers unions rallying around teachers who rape children.

All those construction unions rallying around their members who show up to work drunk or high.

All those grocery store unions who rally around members who got caught stealing.

I'm being sarcastic of course.

That doesn't happen.  Police unions are unique when it comes to defending their own, even when what the employee did was blatantly wrong and calling out for and demanding blood when there is the slightest infraction levied against the officers.  See the rallying around the officers who pushed over a 76 year old man posing no threat.  Where a teachers union would either be silent or actually condemn them for doing something wrong, they threatened to have everyone walk off their job and had shirts made in support of the cops that did it.

When teachers unions scrape together bail to get another teacher out of jail for raping a child, have t-shirts made in support of said teacher, and threaten to strike if said teacher is taken out of the school we can have a conversation about how ALL unions are the same.

When a construction union rallies around its members who did something illegal that caused a structure to collapse (see florida bridge collapse), scrapes up bail for members, and refuses to build more buildings until members are back on job we can have a talk about how all unions are the same.

When a grocery store union does all of the above for a member who got caught stealing red handed we can have a legitimate conversation about how all unions are the same.

Don't get me wrong, unions wield a lot of power, sometimes to the detriment of everyone else, and we can and should have a conversation about finding a happy balance between representing their members and being dicks because they can be.  But a police union is a head and shoulders above other unions when it comes to being assholes and aren't even close to the same as other unions.

Fark off with your false equivalences.
 
2020-06-24 11:22:56 AM  
The Union was "blindsided" by being denied the right to review officer body camera video.

Its so unfair when they can't watch the video and change their stories to match what can be seen in it.
 
2020-06-24 11:23:32 AM  

akya: Bad actors hurt the industry as a whole.


Pauly Shore is proof of that.
 
2020-06-24 11:26:20 AM  
FTA: "But Walker questioned statements that Floyd didn't resist officers because the union hasn't seen footage of the minutes leading up to what the bystander video showed."

This is the same bullshiat they pushed when they said that the public didn't know about Floyd's "criminal history" or in any of these cases where they say that there was weed in someone's system and therefore it somehow justifies whatever force the officers used.

It doesn't matter if he had a criminal history. It doesn't matter if he (or anybody) resisted. It doesn't matter if there were drugs in the system. Once he - or any suspect - was face-first on the ground, with his hands behind his back, handcuffed, and docile, what he did before that point MUST BE completely irrelevant. At that point, the job of the police is to get them into the police car and off to the station. Not sitting on their back and neck from 9 minutes.

The police - and the union - need to understand this. If someone was resisting or fighting back, you subdue them, and once they are subdued, that's it. The police don't get to "pay them back" for whatever they did before by kicking them or adding an extra tasing or kneeling on them for 9 minutes.
 
2020-06-24 11:26:47 AM  

dkulprit: dwrash: All unions do this... who knew?  Its their friggin job to protect their members.

Yeah all those teachers unions rallying around teachers who rape children.

All those construction unions rallying around their members who show up to work drunk or high.

All those grocery store unions who rally around members who got caught stealing.

I'm being sarcastic of course.

That doesn't happen.  Police unions are unique when it comes to defending their own, even when what the employee did was blatantly wrong and calling out for and demanding blood when there is the slightest infraction levied against the officers.  See the rallying around the officers who pushed over a 76 year old man posing no threat.  Where a teachers union would either be silent or actually condemn them for doing something wrong, they threatened to have everyone walk off their job and had shirts made in support of the cops that did it.

When teachers unions scrape together bail to get another teacher out of jail for raping a child, have t-shirts made in support of said teacher, and threaten to strike if said teacher is taken out of the school we can have a conversation about how ALL unions are the same.

When a construction union rallies around its members who did something illegal that caused a structure to collapse (see florida bridge collapse), scrapes up bail for members, and refuses to build more buildings until members are back on job we can have a talk about how all unions are the same.

When a grocery store union does all of the above for a member who got caught stealing red handed we can have a legitimate conversation about how all unions are the same.

Don't get me wrong, unions wield a lot of power, sometimes to the detriment of everyone else, and we can and should have a conversation about finding a happy balance between representing their members and being dicks because they can be.  But a police union is a head and shoulders above other unions when it comes to being assholes and aren ...


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/13/ny​r​egion/troubled-teachers-back-in-classr​ooms-new-york.html

Ahem?
 
2020-06-24 11:28:48 AM  

Cdr.Murdock: rebelyell2006: lifeslammer: Police dont deserve unions

Force them into AFSCME like the rest of us public servants.

Many police unions are AFSCME all ready.  Quite a few in Minnesota as a matter of fact.

Source: AFSCME Local 668 web site.

Would it matter?  A union is a union, and a contract is a contract.  It doesn't matter what name the entity elected by the majority of the workers to represent them takes.

The Teamsters have a whole branch dedicated just to representing law enforcement.

Source:  Teamsters National body web site.

I don't see where AFCME or Teamsters would matter.  To exclude one group of public sector employees pretty much means exposing every public sector employee to being stripped of the right to collectively bargain for conditions and salary.

So baa humbug the cops all you want, but the teacher's unions are right there with 'em.  So unless you're willling to punish all of them, you can't punish just one.

This country needs more unions.  PERIOD.  It's the only way average Americans can claw their way out of the lower and lower middle class.


I'm gonna take this on a bit of a logic train, follow along if you care.

Fact A) My boss, a Tucker Carlson/Sean Hannity Republican, argued quite vehemently a while ago that it is perfectly acceptable for public schools to have religious proselytization, because, in his view, public schools were somehow private entities and therefore their actions would not constitute state sponsorship of a religion.

Fact B) Said boss has also argued using Hannity and Carlson's talking points that public employees, from the municipal level on up to federal level, should be ineligible for union representation because the money is coming from the government, anyways, and there's already elected officials, salary tables, employee protections codified in law, etc.

Conclusion: The combination of Hannity/Carlson talking points would imply that teachers, as non-government employees are eligible for union membership, but police officers should be ineligible for such membership, and the police unions need to be disbanded as they have no legitimate purpose.
 
2020-06-24 11:31:11 AM  
No corruption here.  Just two best friends sharing a hand shake.
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2020-06-24 11:33:35 AM  

rebelyell2006: akya: Bad actors hurt the industry as a whole.

Pauly Shore is proof of that.


Pauly Shore is a national treasure, you take that back right now.

In the Army Now, Encino Man, and Bio-Dome are all movies on par with Citizen Kane and Schindler's list.
 
2020-06-24 11:42:40 AM  

rolladuck: Cdr.Murdock: rebelyell2006: lifeslammer: Police dont deserve unions

Force them into AFSCME like the rest of us public servants.

Many police unions are AFSCME all ready.  Quite a few in Minnesota as a matter of fact.

Source: AFSCME Local 668 web site.

Would it matter?  A union is a union, and a contract is a contract.  It doesn't matter what name the entity elected by the majority of the workers to represent them takes.

The Teamsters have a whole branch dedicated just to representing law enforcement.

Source:  Teamsters National body web site.

I don't see where AFCME or Teamsters would matter.  To exclude one group of public sector employees pretty much means exposing every public sector employee to being stripped of the right to collectively bargain for conditions and salary.

So baa humbug the cops all you want, but the teacher's unions are right there with 'em.  So unless you're willling to punish all of them, you can't punish just one.

This country needs more unions.  PERIOD.  It's the only way average Americans can claw their way out of the lower and lower middle class.

I'm gonna take this on a bit of a logic train, follow along if you care.

Fact A) My boss, a Tucker Carlson/Sean Hannity Republican, argued quite vehemently a while ago that it is perfectly acceptable for public schools to have religious proselytization, because, in his view, public schools were somehow private entities and therefore their actions would not constitute state sponsorship of a religion.

Fact B) Said boss has also argued using Hannity and Carlson's talking points that public employees, from the municipal level on up to federal level, should be ineligible for union representation because the money is coming from the government, anyways, and there's already elected officials, salary tables, employee protections codified in law, etc.

Conclusion: The combination of Hannity/Carlson talking points would imply that teachers, as non-government employees are eligible for union membe ...


Are you using Hannity/Carlson talking points as interpreted by your boss to assert the validity of an argument?

Or should I fold under questioning?

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2020-06-24 11:43:13 AM  

Cdr.Murdock: dkulprit: dwrash: All unions do this... who knew?  Its their friggin job to protect their members.

Yeah all those teachers unions rallying around teachers who rape children.

All those construction unions rallying around their members who show up to work drunk or high.

All those grocery store unions who rally around members who got caught stealing.

I'm being sarcastic of course.

That doesn't happen.  Police unions are unique when it comes to defending their own, even when what the employee did was blatantly wrong and calling out for and demanding blood when there is the slightest infraction levied against the officers.  See the rallying around the officers who pushed over a 76 year old man posing no threat.  Where a teachers union would either be silent or actually condemn them for doing something wrong, they threatened to have everyone walk off their job and had shirts made in support of the cops that did it.

When teachers unions scrape together bail to get another teacher out of jail for raping a child, have t-shirts made in support of said teacher, and threaten to strike if said teacher is taken out of the school we can have a conversation about how ALL unions are the same.

When a construction union rallies around its members who did something illegal that caused a structure to collapse (see florida bridge collapse), scrapes up bail for members, and refuses to build more buildings until members are back on job we can have a talk about how all unions are the same.

When a grocery store union does all of the above for a member who got caught stealing red handed we can have a legitimate conversation about how all unions are the same.

Don't get me wrong, unions wield a lot of power, sometimes to the detriment of everyone else, and we can and should have a conversation about finding a happy balance between representing their members and being dicks because they can be.  But a police union is a head and shoulders above other unions when it comes to being assholes and aren ...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/13/nyr​egion/troubled-teachers-back-in-classr​ooms-new-york.html

Ahem?


They were caught sleeping and shirking responsibility or failing to tell them they got arrested for a non-violent crime!  Totally the same as George Floyd, Phillando Castille, and Daniel Shaver.  Totally.  The.  Same.  So sorry I was wrong.

Please try again.  If the police union supports officers for getting caught sleeping on the job, failing to do paperwork in a timely manner. What you just posted is a false equivalence.  Find me a union who represented and publicallydefended a teacher who raped a child, a construction worker who's negligence caused someone's death.  Show me where the teachers union threatened to strike and pull all teachers because of any of the infractions in the thing you linked.

Quit it with these false equivalencies.
 
2020-06-24 11:45:36 AM  

dkulprit: Quit it with these false equivalencies.


Naa, it's fun......
 
2020-06-24 11:48:08 AM  

Cdr.Murdock: Are you using Hannity/Carlson talking points as interpreted by your boss to assert the validity of an argument?

Or should I fold under questioning?


I know it sounds like a stretch on its face, but those two generate tons of content, and I was having trouble finding it, to cite it, probably because he usually listens to Hannity on the radio.

But it wouldn't be the most extreme arguments that they have made.  But I am aware that it requires that those points are accurate representations of their arguments.

And it's actually worse than you stated. It's my interpretation of his recollection of Hannity/Carlson talking points as he interpreted them.  But, Alex Jones did literally state repeatedly that he would eat his neighbors on live television, a few weeks ago.  So, in 2020, I think we need to keep insanity on the table until it's firmly eliminated.
 
2020-06-24 11:49:26 AM  

rolladuck: And it's actually worse than you stated. It's my interpretation of his recollection of Hannity/Carlson talking points as he interpreted them.  But, Alex Jones did literally state repeatedly that he would eat his neighbors on live television, a few weeks ago.  So, in 2020, I think we need to keep insanity on the table until it's firmly eliminated.


I should clarify: Alex Jones stated repeatedly on live television that he would eat his neighbors. He did not say that he would eat them on live television. Subtle but important difference there. Unless you're the neighbors.
 
2020-06-24 11:54:50 AM  

dwrash: All unions do this... who knew?  Its their friggin job to protect their members.


Unions should be there to make sure employees get fair pay and benefits, as well as make sure their members are as safe as possible on the job site.

Unions should not be shielding bad employees. Yes, they do it...but it's a power they shouldn't have.
 
2020-06-24 11:56:20 AM  

rolladuck: Cdr.Murdock: Are you using Hannity/Carlson talking points as interpreted by your boss to assert the validity of an argument?

Or should I fold under questioning?

I know it sounds like a stretch on its face, but those two generate tons of content, and I was having trouble finding it, to cite it, probably because he usually listens to Hannity on the radio.

But it wouldn't be the most extreme arguments that they have made.  But I am aware that it requires that those points are accurate representations of their arguments.

And it's actually worse than you stated. It's my interpretation of his recollection of Hannity/Carlson talking points as he interpreted them.  But, Alex Jones did literally state repeatedly that he would eat his neighbors on live television, a few weeks ago.  So, in 2020, I think we need to keep insanity on the table until it's firmly eliminated.


The Alex Jones thing.  I've made several jokes about that one with friends.  Some of them got it, some didn't.

Recently, a friends husband started talking "Alex Jones" this and that.  I just rolled with it.  If someone is wackadoodle enough to seek out that guy, and then bring his opinions up in casual conversation as anything other than a joke, I know I'm dealing with a grade A nutbag.  No need to make an argument otherwise.  Just tell him you have to go home and re charge the HAARP machine and leave it at that.

Hannity does generate a lot of content.  He's on most of the AM talkers in my area.  I really can't stand listening to him, even when it's just someone in the background down the hall with it on.
 
2020-06-24 11:58:24 AM  

Miss_Dorothy_Kilgallen: "We don't know if he was resisting arrest or not so, of course, the officer was right to murder him."

I try to be supportive of law enforcement.  I even try to be supportive of unions.  But this kind of crap makes it REALLY difficult.


IKR? Even the most skeptical critics have to admit that some parts of being a cop quite simply suck. But this guy deserves only one defender, his laywer.

It's not that pinning and cuffing someone resisting a lawful arrest is a bad thing: some people are criminals, some of those will fight the cops, and the cops have to overcome that. But let the guy up and put him in the car once you've done that! Continued force is police brutality at that point, and Floyd was straight murder.
 
2020-06-24 12:04:38 PM  
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2020-06-24 12:21:14 PM  

dwrash: All unions do this... who knew?  Its their friggin job to protect their members.


It's there job to protect their members from corporate oppression.  It is not their job to shield their members from prosecution when their members commit felonies.
 
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