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(History Channel)   On this day in history, in 1944, FDR signs G.I. Bill. Sadly, historians do not know when G.I. Joe was signed, as knowing is half the battle   (history.com) divider line
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2020-06-22 6:40:19 PM  
GI Joe PSA - Body Massage
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2020-06-22 6:42:28 PM  
GI JOE JOHNY DO YA PLAY BASEBALL
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2020-06-22 6:43:14 PM  
Fenslerfilm PSA 15 - Help Computer
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2020-06-22 6:44:08 PM  
GI Joe - Pork Chop Sandwiches
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2020-06-22 6:45:35 PM  
/Yo Joe
 
2020-06-22 6:46:53 PM  
GI Joe taught me nobody dies in war. They just jump out of the tank before it explodes.
 
2020-06-22 6:48:18 PM  
Yes. They DO. It's tattooed right there on his ass. 1964.
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2020-06-22 6:48:32 PM  
LGM has an excellent article about this right now
 
2020-06-22 6:52:28 PM  
black veterans had trouble securing the GI Bill's benefits. Some could not access benefits because they had not been given an honorable discharge-and a much larger number of black veterans were discharged dishonorably than their white counterparts.
Veterans who did qualify could not find facilities that delivered on the bill's promise. Black veterans in a vocational training program at a segregated high school in Indianapolis were unable to participate in activities related to plumbing, electricity and printing because adequate equipment was only available to white students.
Simple intimidation kept others from enjoying GI Bill benefits. In 1947, for example, a crowd hurled rocks at black veterans as they moved into a Chicago housing development. Thousands of black veterans were attacked in the years following World War II and some were singled out and lynched.
Though Rankin had lost the battle to exclude black men from VA unemployment insurance, it was doled out inequitably. Men who applied for unemployment benefits were kicked out of the program if any other work was available to them, even work that provided less than subsistence wages. Southern postmasters were even accused of refusing to deliver the forms black veterans needed to fill out to receive their unemployment benefits.
Black veterans' and civil rights groups protested their treatment, calling for protections like black involvement in the VA and non-discriminatory loans, but the racial disparities in the implementation of the GI Bill had already been set into motion. As the years went on, white veterans flowed into newly created suburbs, where they began amassing wealth in skilled positions. But black veterans lacked those options. The majority of skilled jobs were given to white workers.



there is more

Redlining-a decades-old practice of marking maps by race to characterize the risks of lending money and providing insurance-made purchasing a home even more difficult for black veterans. Lenders froze out poorer neighborhoods, ensuring that loan assistance and insurance would be denied. And new white suburbs often came with overtly racist covenants that denied entry to black people.
In 1947, only 2 of the more than 3,200 VA-guaranteed home loans in 13 Mississippi cities went to black borrowers. "These impediments were not confined to the South," notes historian Ira Katznelson. "In New York and the northern New Jersey suburbs, fewer than 100 of the 67,000 mortgages insured by the GI bill supported home purchases by non-whites."



and also:


Black veterans in search of the education they had been guaranteed fared no better. Many black men returning home from the war didn't even try to take advantage of the bill's educational benefits-they could not afford to spend time in school instead of working. But those who did were at a considerable disadvantage compared to their white counterparts. Public education provided poor preparation for black students, and many lacked much educational attainment at all due to poverty and social pressures.
As veteran applications flooded universities, black students often found themselves left out. Northern universities dragged their feet when it came to admitting black students, and Southern colleges barred black students entirely. And the VA itself encouraged black veterans to apply for vocational training instead of university admission and arbitrarily denied educational benefits to some students.

Those students who did try to attend college found doors closed at every turn. A full 95 percent of black veterans were shunted off to black colleges-institutions that were underfunded and overwhelmed by the influx of new students. Most were unaccredited, and with a massive influx in applicants, they had to turn away tens of thousands of veterans.
"Though Congress granted all soldiers the same benefits theoretically," writes historian Hilary Herbold, "the segregationist principles of almost every institution of higher learning effectively disbarred a huge proportion of black veterans from earning a college degree."



less than fifty, etc.

https://www.history.com/news/gi-bill-​b​lack-wwii-veterans-benefits
 
2020-06-22 6:52:29 PM  
That's how my father got his master's at Sewanee.
 
2020-06-22 6:53:31 PM  

thefatbasturd: Yes. They DO. It's tattooed right there on his ass. 1964.
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"you can tell it's swell, it's Mattel".
 
2020-06-22 6:55:04 PM  
If this doesn't win best headline for June, then the voting is fixed. That is brilliant.
 
2020-06-22 7:03:07 PM  

Kirablue42: Black veterans in search of the education they had been guaranteed fared no better. Many black men returning home from the war didn't even try to take advantage of the bill's educational benefits-they could not afford to spend time in school instead of working.


How the hell would that be FDR or the people who made the bills fault?

It sounds like you sort of blaming these people for not fixing all systemic racism.
 
2020-06-22 7:03:21 PM  
I am assuming that C.O.B.R.A never signed.
 
2020-06-22 7:05:48 PM  

Corvus: Kirablue42: Black veterans in search of the education they had been guaranteed fared no better. Many black men returning home from the war didn't even try to take advantage of the bill's educational benefits-they could not afford to spend time in school instead of working.

How the hell would that be FDR or the people who made the bills fault?

It sounds like you sort of blaming these people for not fixing all systemic racism.


If people have good intentions, but no follow through, and allow evil people to circumvent their good, then why are they doing it in the first place?

In the Lord of the Rings trilogy books, there was a battle for the Shire too. People forgot that.
 
2020-06-22 7:07:04 PM  

Corvus: Kirablue42: Black veterans in search of the education they had been guaranteed fared no better. Many black men returning home from the war didn't even try to take advantage of the bill's educational benefits-they could not afford to spend time in school instead of working.

How the hell would that be FDR or the people who made the bills fault?

It sounds like you sort of blaming these people for not fixing all systemic racism.


Could have been pretty simple if it mattered to government. Enforce benefits and remove accrediation if programs didn't comply. The reason there was systematic racism is because the system, including the federal government all the way to the top, was in on it.
 
2020-06-22 7:14:32 PM  
Betsy DeVos wishes she had been there, thinking of the money she could steal
 
2020-06-22 7:16:43 PM  
GI Bill was the best financial thing I've ever done, period.  $100 a  month times 12 months, turned into, ohhhhh, $20,000.  when I got out in 1997 (meaning, pre 9/11) I got something like $450 a month.  then, a defense authorization bill kicked it to $650 for the final two years.  and with academic scholarships, being smarter than the average bear), i was more or less on a free ride academically, so that money was gravy.

best part was my final semester, every semester you had to go in and certify that you were in fact going to college and hadn't dropped out.  each semester it would be like, "ok, you only have $9,500 left...."  "Ok, you only have $4,500 left" and so on.  my final semester i go in and the lady goes, "Welp, you only have 1 payout left.    But....you lucky dog......GI Bill can't be discontinued until the semester ends.....which means you're fat ass is getting 3 free months, courtesy of Uncle Sam."  CHA CHING

/post 9/11, i hear they expanded teh shiat out of GI Bill.  they get a ton more money now and free books and all kinds of shiat i didn't.
 
2020-06-22 7:22:21 PM  
My tax dollars?  Paying for some freeloading government employee's education?  Next thing you know they'll want free healthcare and their own system of hospitals!  It's Soshulizm run amok!!!
 
2020-06-22 7:54:33 PM  

AirForceVet: That's how my father got his master's at Sewanee.


That's how my Grandfather got his engineering degree from Purdue.
 
2020-06-22 8:07:31 PM  
rickythepenguin: GI Bill was the best financial thing I've ever done, period. $100 a  month times 12 months, turned into, ohhhhh, $20,000.  when I got out in 1997 (meaning, pre 9/11) I got something like $450 a month.  then, a defense authorization bill kicked it to $650 for the final two years.  and with academic scholarships, being smarter than the average bear), i was more or less on a free ride academically, so that money was gravy.

best part was my final semester, every semester you had to go in and certify that you were in fact going to college and hadn't dropped out.  each semester it would be like, "ok, you only have $9,500 left...."  "Ok, you only have $4,500 left" and so on.  my final semester i go in and the lady goes, "Welp, you only have 1 payout left.    But....you lucky dog......GI Bill can't be discontinued until the semester ends.....which means you're fat ass is getting 3 free months, courtesy of Uncle Sam."  CHA CHING

/post 9/11, i hear they expanded teh shiat out of GI Bill.  they get a ton more money now and free books and all kinds of shiat i didn't.


Me too. Me and the wife both got out of college with zero student debt. Then we moved into a house with zero down payment. It's very helpful to a couple starting out to not have those albatrosses hanging over your head. Student debt just sucks, and it sucks people have it at all.
 
2020-06-22 8:09:09 PM  
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2020-06-22 8:18:13 PM  
I'm confused.  Should I be outraged because FDR was a racist piece of shiat, or should I be in glee because he was such an admirer of Stalin?  Outrage would normally be the correct answer, but....
 
2020-06-22 8:33:52 PM  
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2020-06-22 8:39:10 PM  
A better GI Bill

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2020-06-22 8:59:23 PM  
 
2020-06-22 9:04:14 PM  

ISO15693: Welp. Time to tear his statue down I guess.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/21/art​s/design/roosevelt-statue-to-be-remove​d-from-museum-of-natural-history.html


Different Roosevelt, genius.
 
2020-06-22 9:10:16 PM  
My Dad left a safe defense plant position to fly in a stateside based unit so Uncle Sugar could pay to educate his ass after the war was over. His only worry was that they would ship his butt off to Korea in the middle of his edumacation. Fortunately I came along and gave him a dependent, AND he was a good Republican.

I'm not gonna judge him. I ended up somewhat 'colleging' myself until I ended up with a high enough draft number to save me from dying in Vietnam or sitting in a federal prison as a draft resistor. Canada wasn't an option for me; I'd serve one way or the other. And in the end, I didn't have to do either. Lucky Ducky.
 
2020-06-22 9:27:07 PM  
He was drafted about the same time as Willie
 
2020-06-22 9:45:31 PM  
So what does all of this have to do with going to the Dr. For a stomach ache?
 
2020-06-22 9:46:49 PM  

brantgoose: I am assuming that C.O.B.R.A never signed.


Didn't need overpriced health insurance I guess.
 
2020-06-22 10:15:41 PM  

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Sean VasDeferens: I'm confused.  Should I be outraged because FDR was a racist piece of shiat, or should I be in glee because he was such an admirer of Stalin?  Outrage would normally be the correct answer, but....


No, your Nazi ass should wash your mouth out with buckshot.
 
2020-06-22 10:31:07 PM  
Talking about events for today.. just noticed on my calendar that it apparently is Labrador Discovery Day in Canada.  Interesting.. does Canada also have Poodle Discovery Day and a Bulldog Discovery Day?
 
2020-06-22 10:43:25 PM  

stuartp9: Talking about events for today.. just noticed on my calendar that it apparently is Labrador Discovery Day in Canada.  Interesting.. does Canada also have Poodle Discovery Day and a Bulldog Discovery Day?


yes.
 
2020-06-22 11:19:30 PM  

Combustion: Me and the wife both got out of college with zero student debt. Then we moved into a house with zero down payment. It's very helpful to a couple starting out to not have those albatrosses hanging over your head. Student debt just sucks, and it sucks people have it at all.



Yeah, between GI Bill, doing 7 years of college/grad school in about 5, and academic scholarships, I left grad school with zero debt.  my wife racked up - who knows - $50K?  $70K? 80? - and just about 2 years ago paid it off.  she slammed that note and paid it off in about 13-15 years.
 
2020-06-23 4:11:56 AM  
Action Man: Battlefield Casualties
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2020-06-23 5:27:15 AM  

I_Can't_Believe_it's_not_Boutros: ISO15693: Welp. Time to tear his statue down I guess.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/21/art​s/design/roosevelt-statue-to-be-remove​d-from-museum-of-natural-history.html

Different Roosevelt, genius.


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(Or are you playing along and extending it?)
 
2020-06-23 8:30:27 AM  

rickythepenguin: GI Bill was the best financial thing I've ever done, period.  $100 a  month times 12 months, turned into, ohhhhh, $20,000.  when I got out in 1997 (meaning, pre 9/11) I got something like $450 a month.  then, a defense authorization bill kicked it to $650 for the final two years.  and with academic scholarships, being smarter than the average bear), i was more or less on a free ride academically, so that money was gravy.

best part was my final semester, every semester you had to go in and certify that you were in fact going to college and hadn't dropped out.  each semester it would be like, "ok, you only have $9,500 left...."  "Ok, you only have $4,500 left" and so on.  my final semester i go in and the lady goes, "Welp, you only have 1 payout left.    But....you lucky dog......GI Bill can't be discontinued until the semester ends.....which means you're fat ass is getting 3 free months, courtesy of Uncle Sam."  CHA CHING

/post 9/11, i hear they expanded teh shiat out of GI Bill.  they get a ton more money now and free books and all kinds of shiat i didn't.


Moe:  Did you go to school, stupid?
Curly:  Yeah, I came out the same way.
 
2020-06-23 11:09:49 AM  

Kirablue42: thefatbasturd: Yes. They DO. It's tattooed right there on his ass. 1964.
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"you can tell it's swell, it's Mattel".


Mell no. Asnthe tattoo says "Hasbro" 😁
 
2020-06-23 1:44:54 PM  

stuartp9: Talking about events for today.. just noticed on my calendar that it apparently is Labrador Discovery Day in Canada.  Interesting.. does Canada also have Poodle Discovery Day and a Bulldog Discovery Day?


No, it's a Marijuana Holiday in Canada. You smoke Labrador, man.
 
2020-06-23 7:36:41 PM  

I'm an Egyptian!: Sean


So you're back again to calling everyone Hitler.
 
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