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2020-06-20 10:18:31 PM  
And not a circumcised one.
 
2020-06-20 10:31:08 PM  
Are there any Israeli politicians that aren't complete assholes? That seems to be the default there.
 
2020-06-21 2:31:52 AM  
I'm curious how the Brits are going to spin it so that they can blame Brussels for that one too.
 
2020-06-21 5:14:05 AM  
Don't worry, between the time she leaves her house and the time she gets to the airport to fly to the UK, Israel will have had 3 more elections.
 
2020-06-21 5:54:10 AM  

pxlboy: Are there any Israeli politicians that aren't complete assholes? That seems to be the default there.


Nope.
Anyone who isn't doesn't last long in politics here.
 
2020-06-21 6:16:45 AM  
Fundraiser?
 
2020-06-21 6:18:10 AM  

pxlboy: Are there any Israeli politicians that aren't complete assholes? That seems to be the default there.


No. Well, I can count them on one hand with amputated fingers.
 
2020-06-21 6:20:34 AM  

ParallelUniverseParking: I'm curious how the Brits are going to spin it so that they can blame Brussels for that one too.


She won't be the first Jew Britain had to take in as a result of the actions of mainland Europe.
 
2020-06-21 6:26:03 AM  
Tipsy Hotlovely?
 
2020-06-21 6:28:21 AM  
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Dat ass.
 
2020-06-21 6:59:26 AM  
Are they going to remove her from photos to appease the hasidic/UO?

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/14/wo​r​ld/newspaper-in-israel-scrubs-women-fr​om-a-photo-of-paris-unity-rally.html

All the progression being made right now is being hindered by stuff like this...
 
2020-06-21 7:11:45 AM  
She was chosen as ambassasor to the UK. I think that makes it OK to call her a coont. And also because she is one.

// let's see what the filter soes with that one
 
2020-06-21 7:13:27 AM  
Well that was unimaginative filtering.
 
2020-06-21 7:14:53 AM  
Jew and Arab populations are now in parity inside Israel and Palestinian territories, large minatory of the Jewish population is Haredi, who do not give a single fark about modern state of Israel, pay neither taxes nor serve in the military. Educated middle class wants to GTFO as fast as they can.

Its hard to see Israel survive another 50 years, what are their options really?
1) Two state solution based on 1967 borders? That will not fly with the settlers
2) Single state solution with full civil rights for Palestinians? Haha, no.
3) "Final solution to the Arab question in Greater Israel"?
 
2020-06-21 7:15:45 AM  

ParallelUniverseParking: I'm curious how the Brits are going to spin it so that they can blame Brussels for that one too.


That would be an incorrect blame classification. The Real Englishman's (TM) blame system is as follows:

- European Union
- Unelected bureaucrats
- Merkel and Macron
- Traitorous Remoaners
- Immigrants
- job-stealing Poles
- non-integrating Muslims
- The Left
- Jeremy Corbyn
- The BBC
- Unions
- Civil Service establishment elitists
- Woke BLM Antifa nanny-state politically correct health and safety gone mad transgender rights activists
- Last Labour Government

I believe this would be most likely filed under 'blame the left', in the Jeremy Corbyn subfolder.
 
2020-06-21 7:23:40 AM  

Creidiki: Jew and Arab populations are now in parity inside Israel and Palestinian territories, large minatory of the Jewish population is Haredi, who do not give a single fark about modern state of Israel, pay neither taxes nor serve in the military. Educated middle class wants to GTFO as fast as they can.

Its hard to see Israel survive another 50 years, what are their options really?
1) Two state solution based on 1967 borders? That will not fly with the settlers
2) Single state solution with full civil rights for Palestinians? Haha, no.
3) "Final solution to the Arab question in Greater Israel"?


The answer is 2, but we'll have to be dragged kicking and screaming to it.
 
2020-06-21 7:28:05 AM  

Clash City Farker: [media.gettyimages.com image 401x612]

Dat ass.


Wow. Her leg seamlessly transitions into her foot...
 
2020-06-21 7:29:08 AM  

shpritz: Creidiki: Jew and Arab populations are now in parity inside Israel and Palestinian territories, large minatory of the Jewish population is Haredi, who do not give a single fark about modern state of Israel, pay neither taxes nor serve in the military. Educated middle class wants to GTFO as fast as they can.

Its hard to see Israel survive another 50 years, what are their options really?
1) Two state solution based on 1967 borders? That will not fly with the settlers
2) Single state solution with full civil rights for Palestinians? Haha, no.
3) "Final solution to the Arab question in Greater Israel"?

The answer is 2, but we'll have to be dragged kicking and screaming to it.


Do you want a civil war here? Because that's how you get a civil war.
 
2020-06-21 7:30:23 AM  

bostonguy: shpritz: Creidiki: Jew and Arab populations are now in parity inside Israel and Palestinian territories, large minatory of the Jewish population is Haredi, who do not give a single fark about modern state of Israel, pay neither taxes nor serve in the military. Educated middle class wants to GTFO as fast as they can.

Its hard to see Israel survive another 50 years, what are their options really?
1) Two state solution based on 1967 borders? That will not fly with the settlers
2) Single state solution with full civil rights for Palestinians? Haha, no.
3) "Final solution to the Arab question in Greater Israel"?

The answer is 2, but we'll have to be dragged kicking and screaming to it.

Do you want a civil war here? Because that's how you get a civil war.


I want an end to Jewish supremacy.
 
2020-06-21 7:30:30 AM  

shpritz: Creidiki: Jew and Arab populations are now in parity inside Israel and Palestinian territories, large minatory of the Jewish population is Haredi, who do not give a single fark about modern state of Israel, pay neither taxes nor serve in the military. Educated middle class wants to GTFO as fast as they can.

Its hard to see Israel survive another 50 years, what are their options really?
1) Two state solution based on 1967 borders? That will not fly with the settlers
2) Single state solution with full civil rights for Palestinians? Haha, no.
3) "Final solution to the Arab question in Greater Israel"?

The answer is 2, but we'll have to be dragged kicking and screaming to it.


#2 will *NEVER* happen.

Do you know why? Because if it did, about 40% of Israel would be non-Jewish. They're a democracy. What do you think will happen in the Knesset? I'll give you a hint:

Joint List becomes the largest party by a mile.
 
2020-06-21 7:43:19 AM  

shpritz: bostonguy: shpritz: Creidiki: Jew and Arab populations are now in parity inside Israel and Palestinian territories, large minatory of the Jewish population is Haredi, who do not give a single fark about modern state of Israel, pay neither taxes nor serve in the military. Educated middle class wants to GTFO as fast as they can.

Its hard to see Israel survive another 50 years, what are their options really?
1) Two state solution based on 1967 borders? That will not fly with the settlers
2) Single state solution with full civil rights for Palestinians? Haha, no.
3) "Final solution to the Arab question in Greater Israel"?

The answer is 2, but we'll have to be dragged kicking and screaming to it.

Do you want a civil war here? Because that's how you get a civil war.

I want an end to Jewish supremacy.


So go with option #1.
 
2020-06-21 7:44:09 AM  

ColonelCathcart: shpritz: Creidiki: Jew and Arab populations are now in parity inside Israel and Palestinian territories, large minatory of the Jewish population is Haredi, who do not give a single fark about modern state of Israel, pay neither taxes nor serve in the military. Educated middle class wants to GTFO as fast as they can.

Its hard to see Israel survive another 50 years, what are their options really?
1) Two state solution based on 1967 borders? That will not fly with the settlers
2) Single state solution with full civil rights for Palestinians? Haha, no.
3) "Final solution to the Arab question in Greater Israel"?

The answer is 2, but we'll have to be dragged kicking and screaming to it.

#2 will *NEVER* happen.

Do you know why? Because if it did, about 40% of Israel would be non-Jewish. They're a democracy. What do you think will happen in the Knesset? I'll give you a hint:

Joint List becomes the largest party by a mile.


I don't have a problem with sharing power with my Arab neighbors. I've even voted for the Joint List and Hadash a few times.
 
2020-06-21 7:49:05 AM  

bostonguy: shpritz: bostonguy: shpritz: Creidiki: Jew and Arab populations are now in parity inside Israel and Palestinian territories, large minatory of the Jewish population is Haredi, who do not give a single fark about modern state of Israel, pay neither taxes nor serve in the military. Educated middle class wants to GTFO as fast as they can.

Its hard to see Israel survive another 50 years, what are their options really?
1) Two state solution based on 1967 borders? That will not fly with the settlers
2) Single state solution with full civil rights for Palestinians? Haha, no.
3) "Final solution to the Arab question in Greater Israel"?

The answer is 2, but we'll have to be dragged kicking and screaming to it.

Do you want a civil war here? Because that's how you get a civil war.

I want an end to Jewish supremacy.

So go with option #1.


Option 1 doesn't end Jewish supremacy. It exists to make sure there is a majority of Jews in Israel so Jewish supremacy can continue by more democratic means. It's a way for Israeli liberals to convince themselves that a Jewish State isn't inherently racist. And in time it will lead to a full-blown theocracy when the Haredim outnumber secular Jews.
 
2020-06-21 7:50:15 AM  

shpritz: The answer is 2, but we'll have to be dragged kicking and screaming to it.


If I wanted to live in an Arab country I would move to such paradises of prosperity, human rights and democracy as Egypt, Lebanon, Syria or Jordan. Never, ever going to happen.
This was actually Arafat's old dream, ending Israel without firing a single bullet and turning it into an Arab country where the Jews live as a minority. People who think Israel will commit suicide on a national scale are extremely delusional.
 
2020-06-21 7:52:22 AM  

shpritz: ColonelCathcart: shpritz: Creidiki: Jew and Arab populations are now in parity inside Israel and Palestinian territories, large minatory of the Jewish population is Haredi, who do not give a single fark about modern state of Israel, pay neither taxes nor serve in the military. Educated middle class wants to GTFO as fast as they can.

Its hard to see Israel survive another 50 years, what are their options really?
1) Two state solution based on 1967 borders? That will not fly with the settlers
2) Single state solution with full civil rights for Palestinians? Haha, no.
3) "Final solution to the Arab question in Greater Israel"?

The answer is 2, but we'll have to be dragged kicking and screaming to it.

#2 will *NEVER* happen.

Do you know why? Because if it did, about 40% of Israel would be non-Jewish. They're a democracy. What do you think will happen in the Knesset? I'll give you a hint:

Joint List becomes the largest party by a mile.

I don't have a problem with sharing power with my Arab neighbors. I've even voted for the Joint List and Hadash a few times.


Good for you being all tolerant and open, but we both know it isn't common
 
2020-06-21 7:52:51 AM  
i'd dick her if you know what i mean
 
2020-06-21 7:59:44 AM  

ColonelCathcart: shpritz: ColonelCathcart: shpritz: Creidiki: Jew and Arab populations are now in parity inside Israel and Palestinian territories, large minatory of the Jewish population is Haredi, who do not give a single fark about modern state of Israel, pay neither taxes nor serve in the military. Educated middle class wants to GTFO as fast as they can.

Its hard to see Israel survive another 50 years, what are their options really?
1) Two state solution based on 1967 borders? That will not fly with the settlers
2) Single state solution with full civil rights for Palestinians? Haha, no.
3) "Final solution to the Arab question in Greater Israel"?

The answer is 2, but we'll have to be dragged kicking and screaming to it.

#2 will *NEVER* happen.

Do you know why? Because if it did, about 40% of Israel would be non-Jewish. They're a democracy. What do you think will happen in the Knesset? I'll give you a hint:

Joint List becomes the largest party by a mile.

I don't have a problem with sharing power with my Arab neighbors. I've even voted for the Joint List and Hadash a few times.

Good for you being all tolerant and open, but we both know it isn't common


Not claiming it's common. I realize I'm in a tiny minority today amongst Israelis and that the prevailing attitude is best exemplified by Tapping's little rant up there.

I never claimed option 2 was going to happen anytime soon. But it's the only realistic endgame. And if you're young enough you might even get a chance to see it happening.
 
2020-06-21 8:00:33 AM  

shpritz: It exists to make sure there is a majority of Jews in Israel so Jewish supremacy can continue by more democratic means. It's a way for Israeli liberals to convince themselves that a Jewish State isn't inherently racist.


What's wrong with the Jewish people having a country of our own? The English people have one. The German people have one. The Russian people have one. Most people have one.
 
2020-06-21 8:02:49 AM  

shpritz: And in time it will lead to a full-blown theocracy when the Haredim outnumber secular Jews.


The haredim cannot sustain themselves. Their economy is a pyramid scheme. Slowly, more and more are going to work every year. You just don't hear about it because it is gradual. Once they're out of their cultish bubbles, there will be more going "off the derech."

Besides, the percentage of parliament seats going to the two ultra-Orthodox parties never increases greatly. We've got no danger of a theocracy.
 
2020-06-21 8:04:03 AM  

shpritz: ColonelCathcart: shpritz: Creidiki: Jew and Arab populations are now in parity inside Israel and Palestinian territories, large minatory of the Jewish population is Haredi, who do not give a single fark about modern state of Israel, pay neither taxes nor serve in the military. Educated middle class wants to GTFO as fast as they can.

Its hard to see Israel survive another 50 years, what are their options really?
1) Two state solution based on 1967 borders? That will not fly with the settlers
2) Single state solution with full civil rights for Palestinians? Haha, no.
3) "Final solution to the Arab question in Greater Israel"?

The answer is 2, but we'll have to be dragged kicking and screaming to it.

#2 will *NEVER* happen.

Do you know why? Because if it did, about 40% of Israel would be non-Jewish. They're a democracy. What do you think will happen in the Knesset? I'll give you a hint:

Joint List becomes the largest party by a mile.

I don't have a problem with sharing power with my Arab neighbors. I've even voted for the Joint List and Hadash a few times.


No group or society as a whole ever survives when it is split 50/50 along some significant line.

That's also my worry about the US, UK and everywhere where there is increasing polarization.
 
2020-06-21 8:07:06 AM  

bostonguy: shpritz: It exists to make sure there is a majority of Jews in Israel so Jewish supremacy can continue by more democratic means. It's a way for Israeli liberals to convince themselves that a Jewish State isn't inherently racist.

What's wrong with the Jewish people having a country of our own? The English people have one. The German people have one. The Russian people have one. Most people have one.


Judaism is a religion. That's the difference. I don't support having Christian States, or Islamic States and I feel the same about Jewish States.
 
2020-06-21 8:07:32 AM  

shpritz: Not claiming it's common. I realize I'm in a tiny minority today amongst Israelis and that the prevailing attitude is best exemplified by Tapping's little rant up there.


Explaining reality is not 'a little rant', by your own admission you voted for a communist party and the Joint List which also include Balad, a fascist group literally saying they want to turn Israel into an Arab state, so grasping reality and common sense doesn't seem to be your strong suite.
You're a tiny minority and what you're saying will never, ever happen because most Israelis have common sense when it comes to committing suicide on a national scale.
 
2020-06-21 8:10:27 AM  

shpritz: Judaism is a religion. That's the difference. I don't support having Christian States, or Islamic States and I feel the same about Jewish States.


Judaism is also a nationality.

bostonguy: Besides, the percentage of parliament seats going to the two ultra-Orthodox parties never increases greatly. We've got no danger of a theocracy.


The man voted for an Arab communist party and for the Joint List including Balad, don't confuse him with facts.
 
2020-06-21 8:10:58 AM  

bostonguy: shpritz: It exists to make sure there is a majority of Jews in Israel so Jewish supremacy can continue by more democratic means. It's a way for Israeli liberals to convince themselves that a Jewish State isn't inherently racist.

What's wrong with the Jewish people having a country of our own? The English people have one. The German people have one. The Russian people have one. Most people have one.


Your own country with your own borders in Nationalism and its racist. That went out of style. What we have today is a global society and every one should be treated equally.
 
2020-06-21 8:13:08 AM  

Clash City Farker: What we have today is a global society and every one should be treated equally.


So we should just have a one-world government and everyone can live wherever they want? OK.
 
2020-06-21 8:17:32 AM  

TappingTheVein: shpritz: Judaism is a religion. That's the difference. I don't support having Christian States, or Islamic States and I feel the same about Jewish States.

Judaism is also a nationality.

bostonguy: Besides, the percentage of parliament seats going to the two ultra-Orthodox parties never increases greatly. We've got no danger of a theocracy.

The man voted for an Arab communist party and for the Joint List including Balad, don't confuse him with facts.


A Muslim can't join the Jewish "nationality" without converting to Judaism. So it's not the same as being German or English.

And if it makes you feel any better Taps, these days I vote for the farthest right party with realistic chances. I wanna hasten annexation so we can put an end to this "Jewish and Democratic" farce.
 
2020-06-21 8:18:00 AM  

bostonguy: Clash City Farker: What we have today is a global society and every one should be treated equally.

So we should just have a one-world government and everyone can live wherever they want? OK.


Yesh, like in Star Trek.
 
2020-06-21 8:23:22 AM  

bostonguy: Clash City Farker: What we have today is a global society and every one should be treated equally.

So we should just have a one-world government and everyone can live wherever they want? OK.


Shwaye shwaye, ya habibi.
 
2020-06-21 8:23:52 AM  

Clash City Farker: bostonguy: Clash City Farker: What we have today is a global society and every one should be treated equally.

So we should just have a one-world government and everyone can live wherever they want? OK.

Yesh, like in Star Trek.


But you're assuming that the one-world government would just be a global version of a US / UK / UN system of government. In reality, China would control the world. Plus, everyone in poor countries would run to live in Europe and North America. It'd be anarchy.
 
2020-06-21 8:25:25 AM  

shpritz: A Muslim can't join the Jewish "nationality" without converting to Judaism. So it's not the same as being German or English.


You are again confusing religion with nationality. A Muslim can convert to Judaism (and risk getting killed by his Muslim brethren) as a religion. By nationality I'm Jewish but I'm an Atheist.

shpritz: And if it makes you feel any better Taps, these days I vote for the farthest right party with realistic chances. I wanna hasten annexation so we can put an end to this "Jewish and Democratic" farce.


You actually think there will be a Jordan Valley full annexation ? look, you already provided enough evidence that you're delusional, there's no need for more. Are you really so unaware of what Netanyahu is and his "tactics" ?
By your own words you voted for a Communist party and a fascist part calling for ending Israel, that's all the context needed.
 
2020-06-21 8:31:55 AM  

bostonguy: Clash City Farker: bostonguy: Clash City Farker: What we have today is a global society and every one should be treated equally.

So we should just have a one-world government and everyone can live wherever they want? OK.

Yesh, like in Star Trek.

But you're assuming that the one-world government would just be a global version of a US / UK / UN system of government. In reality, China would control the world. Plus, everyone in poor countries would run to live in Europe and North America. It'd be anarchy.


LOL, China.

China is a joke. Cant you see that?

Pax Americanan is the best thing we have got. I'm not saying there isnt room to invent something better, though. But you cant go backwards. Communism and socialism is not the answer.
 
2020-06-21 8:51:45 AM  

Creidiki: Jew and Arab populations are now in parity inside Israel and Palestinian territories, large minatory of the Jewish population is Haredi, who do not give a single fark about modern state of Israel, pay neither taxes nor serve in the military. Educated middle class wants to GTFO as fast as they can.

Its hard to see Israel survive another 50 years, what are their options really?
1) Two state solution based on 1967 borders? That will not fly with the settlers
2) Single state solution with full civil rights for Palestinians? Haha, no.
3) "Final solution to the Arab question in Greater Israel"?


4)  Forced conversion of the Palestinian Arab population to Judaism.  Can't be too difficult, they're already circumcised and don't eat pork anyway.
 
2020-06-21 9:00:41 AM  

TappingTheVein: shpritz: A Muslim can't join the Jewish "nationality" without converting to Judaism. So it's not the same as being German or English.

You are again confusing religion with nationality. A Muslim can convert to Judaism (and risk getting killed by his Muslim brethren) as a religion. By nationality I'm Jewish but I'm an Atheist.


I'm not confusing anything. I'm simply not buying into a bullshiat argument. "Judaism is a nationality" is a concept that secular Zionists like to tell themselves because then they can pretend that being a Jew is just like being German or English (which is exactly what bostonguy did upthread) and use that to justify the existence of a Jewish State even though they are against the concept of [insert some other religion] State. They find it easy to convince themselves that it's the same because "hey, I'm Jewish but I don't believe in god and I'm not religious so it must be just like any other nationality." But it's not the same thing. A person from a different religion (ie, someone that wasn't born into the Jewish "nationality") can't just pass a citizenship test and maybe pledge allegiance. That person can only join our "nationality" by converting to Judaism. Because Judaism is a religion, and not actually a nationality.

shpritz: And if it makes you feel any better Taps, these days I vote for the farthest right party with realistic chances. I wanna hasten annexation so we can put an end to this "Jewish and Democratic" farce.

You actually think there will be a Jordan Valley full annexation ? look, you already provided enough evidence that you're delusional, there's no need for more. Are you really so unaware of what Netanyahu is and his "tactics" ?
By your own words you voted for a Communist party and a fascist part calling for ending Israel, that's all the context needed.


Not tomorrow, but it's a piecemeal process. And eventually the Palestinians will realize we never actually meant it with the two state solution and they will start demanding a vote in our elections. That will be the beginning of the end for Zionism.
 
2020-06-21 9:16:59 AM  
tzipi, what do you think about palestinian settlements?

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sorry i asked
 
2020-06-21 9:22:06 AM  

shpritz: And eventually the Palestinians will realize we never actually meant it with the two state solution and they will start demanding a vote in our elections.


South Africa tried, they really really tried something like this. Idea was that blacks would be citizens of economically unviable  bantustans without rights, providing cheap labour.

I would love to say that Apartheid fell due to international pressure, but it was never a major factor, ANC's armed struggle was also a joke, they got their asses handed to them on regular basis. But once the african labour stopped playing ball Apartheid just imploded, any attempt to do the same in will face the same fate. De Klerk and the Nationalist Party saw the writing in the wall and got out while the going was good.
 
2020-06-21 9:37:27 AM  

shpritz: I'm not confusing anything. I'm simply not buying into a bullshiat argument


You not buying it is not going to change the fact that Judaism is both a nationality and a religion. My ID card where under 'nationality' is written 'Jewish' is not going to fade into oblivion because you choose to reject reality and substitute it with your own.

shpritz: A person from a different religion


You again don't seem to grasp the simple concept of one word describing 2 things. Sorry, there's not much I can do about that.

shpritz: That person can only join our "nationality" by converting to Judaism.


Simply not true, you are again confusing religion and nationality. A person can convert to the Jewish religion, not to the Jewish nationality the same way I can convert to Islam but can't become an Arab.

shpritz: Because Judaism is a religion, and not actually a nationality


Say it as much as you want, you are simply wrong. It can be both, sometimes not at the same time.

shpritz: Not tomorrow, but it's a piecemeal process.


Netanyahu said the same thing at least twice in recent years, right after or before elections about the Jordan Valley. In similar threads on those occasions I said the same thing: not going to happen. Eventually there will be some exchange as described by the peace offers (rejected by the Palestinians) from the last 20 years, at around 5%. Regarding the current promises of entire annexation, Jordan Valley, etc: not going to happen.

shpritz: they will start demanding a vote in our elections


They have a vote and elections, as dictated by the Oslo Accords for the Palestinian Authority in control of Area A. Too bad they went the same route as other Arab/Islamic countries and canceled democracy or turned it into a Kleptocracy, both in Gaza and the West Bank. Their doing, not Israel. I believe Abbas will be celebrating the 16th year of his 4 year term as Prime Minister soon.

shpritz: That will be the beginning of the end for Zionism.


I'm sure someone who voted for the Arab Communist party and the Joint Party with the Arab fascist party Balad is salivating at the idea but like I said: delusional bullshiat. Never, ever going to happen.
 
2020-06-21 9:57:36 AM  
bostonguy:

What's wrong with the Jewish people having a country of our own?

England never said "We are creating this nation to give a home to all who are English" then proceeded to follow it up with "Well not you, you're too black for us".
 
2020-06-21 10:08:22 AM  

bostonguy: shpritz: It exists to make sure there is a majority of Jews in Israel so Jewish supremacy can continue by more democratic means. It's a way for Israeli liberals to convince themselves that a Jewish State isn't inherently racist.

What's wrong with the Jewish people having a country of our own? The English people have one. The German people have one. The Russian people have one. Most people have one.


none of those have said if you aren't church of england, protestant, or russian orthodox that we have the right to throw you off your land and build walls to keep you in the areas we'll allow you
 
2020-06-21 10:15:02 AM  

Murkanen: England never said "We are creating this nation to give a home to all who are English" then proceeded to follow it up with "Well not you, you're too black for us".


Neither did Israel as evident by the many Arab/Muslim, Druze, Bedouin, Ethiopians, etc citizens of Israel.
 
2020-06-21 10:26:31 AM  
I'm still confused about Judaism being a nationality. I'm not trying to be difficult, but I don't know of a nation called Jew. I get that there is a difference between practicing the Jewish faith, and being culturally Jewish, but nationality implies a nation.
 
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