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(Jalopnik)   Global taillight community's outrage still focused on devil GM, whose flaring back-up lights saying your car is now locked wreak death in parking lots   (jalopnik.com) divider line
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2020-06-20 9:24:17 PM  
He's right.  Psychotic, but absolutely right.
 
2020-06-20 9:37:46 PM  
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Now lets have a discussion about "parking brake" vs "emergency brake"...
 
2020-06-20 9:38:42 PM  
Tell you what.  Stop making the LED headlights so goddamn bright and I'll give you a pass on this.
 
2020-06-20 10:25:51 PM  
If anything at GM ever changes, an entire squadron of VPs and lawyers descend, and attempt to put things back to exactly the same way they used to be.  They'll kill people if they have to.
 
2020-06-20 10:26:04 PM  
I like what he said about hating red turn signals instead of amber. You see a red taillight flash beside you in traffic, you don't know if he's tapping the brakes or about to merge across your fender.
 
2020-06-20 11:15:24 PM  
My CTS wagon does this and I have to admit I kind of like hitting the button and watching the vultures swoop in and argue over my parking spot.
 
2020-06-20 11:43:29 PM  

JerkStore: My CTS wagon does this and I have to admit I kind of like hitting the button and watching the vultures swoop in and argue over my parking spot.


Username checks out
 
2020-06-20 11:45:16 PM  
This kinda reminds me of the old fart state legislator who was confused by "spinner" hubcaps and wanted them banned because he became confuzzled and had an accident while apparently mesmerized by them

Remember spinner hubcaps?
 
2020-06-20 11:47:05 PM  
All this will accomplish is to condition people to ignore reverse lights....with expected consequences
 
2020-06-20 11:48:45 PM  
Also, there is a farking taillightdom. From the sound of it, the people in it can't be too many rungs away from the AD&D players on the doosh ladder.
 
2020-06-20 11:58:10 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: If anything at GM ever changes, an entire squadron of VPs and lawyers descend, and attempt to put things back to exactly the same way they used to be.  They'll kill people if they have to.


Hell, they'll kill an entire company.

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2020-06-21 12:20:35 AM  

SwiftFox: This kinda reminds me of the old fart state legislator who was confused by "spinner" hubcaps and wanted them banned because he became confuzzled and had an accident while apparently mesmerized by them

Remember spinner hubcaps?


That's actually a well-known optical illusion. The spin rate is one of the things the visual cortex uses to determine an object's relative velocity to oneself. A spinner hubcap makes it much easier for other traffic to misjudge a car's speed.
 
2020-06-21 12:31:20 AM  

fusillade762: [i.kinja-img.com image 800x251]

Now lets have a discussion about "parking brake" vs "emergency brake"...


In the 80s it was easy.  German cars had emergency brakes, US cars had parking brakes.

If it can stop the car from highway speeds in a reasonable distance with no damage, it is an emergency break.

My 71 Ford had Galaxy had a "keep it from rolling on a flat surface in the wind brake". A 1/4 inch twig as a chock worked better.
 
2020-06-21 12:34:34 AM  

SwiftFox: This kinda reminds me of the old fart state legislator who was confused by "spinner" hubcaps and wanted them banned because he became confuzzled and had an accident while apparently mesmerized by them

Remember spinner hubcaps?


Curb feelers..
 
2020-06-21 12:45:47 AM  
So whatever light on the ass of the vehicle turns on when it is remotely locked or unlocked.  So what?  How about not having the damned horn sound when this happens?  WTF is that about?  Why on Earth would that be considered a "feature?"  Well, presumably it would be considered a feature if you are my neighbor and am intent on locking and on locking your car every five minutes in order to piss me off.  They do not drive GM vehicles and as far as I know GM does not sound the horn when doing this.
 
2020-06-21 12:54:30 AM  

fusillade762: [i.kinja-img.com image 800x251]

Now lets have a discussion about "parking brake" vs "emergency brake"...


Neither.  It's the hand brake.

It has uses other than parking.
 
2020-06-21 1:31:04 AM  

edmo: Marcus Aurelius: If anything at GM ever changes, an entire squadron of VPs and lawyers descend, and attempt to put things back to exactly the same way they used to be.  They'll kill people if they have to.

Hell, they'll kill an entire company.

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I absolutely LOVED Saturn but they killed Saturn because it wasn't profitable. Shame. My 1999 SC2 lasted me damn near 200,000 miles with only needing a replacement to the clutch master cylinder and I still got $600 for it.
 
2020-06-21 1:39:48 AM  

Mindlock: fusillade762: [i.kinja-img.com image 800x251]

Now lets have a discussion about "parking brake" vs "emergency brake"...

Neither.  It's the hand brake.

It has uses other than parking.


You mean the eBrake?
 
2020-06-21 1:41:46 AM  

common sense is an oxymoron: He's right.  Psychotic, but absolutely right.


How often does someone actually see the flashing lights and freak out?
 
2020-06-21 1:57:33 AM  

Moniker o' Shame: So whatever light on the ass of the vehicle turns on when it is remotely locked or unlocked.  So what?  How about not having the damned horn sound when this happens?  WTF is that about?  Why on Earth would that be considered a "feature?"  Well, presumably it would be considered a feature if you are my neighbor and am intent on locking and on locking your car every five minutes in order to piss me off.  They do not drive GM vehicles and as far as I know GM does not sound the horn when doing this.


I have been to the UK multiple times. I never heard a horn sound for the alarm. Just the lights blink. I am guessing that they have a law preventing it. I would love to see that in the USA. But people would get all upset at that job killing law messing with our freedumbs. :(
I have never noticed that GM cars do not sound the horn. You sure about that?

Their cars also turn off the radio when the car door opens. Another feature I would like to see.
 
2020-06-21 4:00:48 AM  
Really, the blinking white lights? Not the eyeball searing brightness all new cars taillights have? I'm looking at you Cadillac! Freaking LEDs are blinding as hell at night when you're stuck behind one.

Besides, only idiots don't know back up lights stay on all the time when in reverse, regardless of whether you're stepping on the brakes or not. They're not like the regular brake lights that dim or turn off when the let off the brake. If they're blinking, they're not in gear.
 
2020-06-21 4:45:14 AM  

bingethinker: I like what he said about hating red turn signals instead of amber. You see a red taillight flash beside you in traffic, you don't know if he's tapping the brakes or about to merge across your fender.


Why is it even legal ? I've only seen this is the US.
 
2020-06-21 4:47:40 AM  

SwiftFox: This kinda reminds me of the old fart state legislator who was confused by "spinner" hubcaps and wanted them banned because he became confuzzled and had an accident while apparently mesmerized by them

Remember spinner hubcaps?


To be honest, it turns out that people unconsciously rely a lot of wheel motion to see if a vehicle is in motion or not, at low speed.

Or it's because they are favoured by "urban" types, as it's about the cause of half of legislation, it seems.
 
2020-06-21 4:56:39 AM  
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What real tail lights may look like.
Missing Mad Men for some reason right now...
 
2020-06-21 5:20:40 AM  

SwiftFox: This kinda reminds me of the old fart state legislator who was confused by "spinner" hubcaps and wanted them banned because he became confuzzled and had an accident while apparently mesmerized by them

Remember spinner hubcaps?


Yesterday I saw one of the crown air fresheners on the dashboard of a car in Australia.
 
2020-06-21 6:17:00 AM  
I never noticed this.  Whatever.
 
2020-06-21 6:49:50 AM  
Meanwhile at Ford, taillights have a long and stupid history...

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2020-06-21 8:05:30 AM  

Mindlock: fusillade762: [i.kinja-img.com image 800x251]

Now lets have a discussion about "parking brake" vs "emergency brake"...

Neither.  It's the hand brake.

It has uses other than parking.


The "hand brake" is for people that can drive a manual transmission on hills. The "parking brake" is for people that use it once a year. The "emergency brake" is for people that ask "What's this lever for".
 
2020-06-21 8:07:05 AM  

FarkingChas: Moniker o' Shame: So whatever light on the ass of the vehicle turns on when it is remotely locked or unlocked.  So what?  How about not having the damned horn sound when this happens?  WTF is that about?  Why on Earth would that be considered a "feature?"  Well, presumably it would be considered a feature if you are my neighbor and am intent on locking and on locking your car every five minutes in order to piss me off.  They do not drive GM vehicles and as far as I know GM does not sound the horn when doing this.

I have been to the UK multiple times. I never heard a horn sound for the alarm. Just the lights blink. I am guessing that they have a law preventing it.


Highway code rule 112:
Rule 112
The horn. Use only while your vehicle is moving and you need to warn other road users of your presence. Never sound your horn aggressively. You MUST NOT use your horn

while stationary on the road
when driving in a built-up area between the hours of 11.30 pm and 7.00 am


IANAL ICBW but the highway code is not specifically law, but ignoring elements of it could lead to generic charges. Sounding your horn excessively at night would probably fall under noise pollution laws rather than specific vehicular charges. You're not getting arrested if you park up at a friend's house and toot to let him know you're there.
 
2020-06-21 8:38:15 AM  

meanmutton: I absolutely LOVED Saturn but they killed Saturn because it wasn't profitable.


Well, Saturn was profitable enough to operate as its own company; GM killed it because Saturn was hurting the sales of other GM products, and Saturn was able to be more independent because of the union, and giving UAW more power was never something GM wanted to let happen.
 
2020-06-21 9:13:48 AM  

Moniker o' Shame: So whatever light on the ass of the vehicle turns on when it is remotely locked or unlocked.  So what?  How about not having the damned horn sound when this happens?  WTF is that about?  Why on Earth would that be considered a "feature?"  Well, presumably it would be considered a feature if you are my neighbor and am intent on locking and on locking your car every five minutes in order to piss me off.  They do not drive GM vehicles and as far as I know GM does not sound the horn when doing this.


Can't walk through a parking lot anymore without a different horn going off every 6 seconds. It's goddamn ridiculous. Especially the jackasses that hit the button multiple times. ONE PRESS, ASSHOLES.
 
2020-06-21 9:28:05 AM  
There is a Global Taillight Community?!
 
2020-06-21 9:40:33 AM  
I'd rather talk about unregulated misaligned headlights, foglights, blinding oncoming traffic.  Aligning headlights used to be part of the yearly inspection in my state.  Then the manufacturers just decided, yeah, we'll just choose our own angle and brightness and fark the oncoming traffic, and apparently the states said, "as you wish big auto!"
 
2020-06-21 9:52:18 AM  

Ker_Thwap: I'd rather talk about unregulated misaligned headlights, foglights, blinding oncoming traffic.  Aligning headlights used to be part of the yearly inspection in my state.  Then the manufacturers just decided, yeah, we'll just choose our own angle and brightness and fark the oncoming traffic, and apparently the states said, "as you wish big auto!"


This right here is an actual safety issue.  Jagoffs who think that winning the headlight arms race is an extension of proving their masculinity are a public hazard.  The rest of this thread is 1st world world problems
 
2020-06-21 9:53:24 AM  
You need to change your life so that you spend less of it driving.
 
2020-06-21 10:04:49 AM  
There is a global community of people who are wound far too tight.
 
2020-06-21 11:13:22 AM  

Moniker o' Shame: So whatever light on the ass of the vehicle turns on when it is remotely locked or unlocked.  So what?  How about not having the damned horn sound when this happens?  WTF is that about?  Why on Earth would that be considered a "feature?"  Well, presumably it would be considered a feature if you are my neighbor and am intent on locking and on locking your car every five minutes in order to piss me off.  They do not drive GM vehicles and as far as I know GM does not sound the horn when doing this.


It's so you can find your car in a crowded parking lot.
 
2020-06-21 11:46:21 AM  

Moniker o' Shame: GM does not sound the horn when doing this


The do, but you can turn it off in the electronic infotainment system menu.
 
2020-06-21 11:49:02 AM  

Al Tsheimers: The "hand brake" is for people that can drive a manual transmission on hills.


My car has a hill-holder feature, but manual transmissions are all but gone.
 
2020-06-21 12:17:58 PM  

PainInTheASP: Tell you what.  Stop making the LED headlights so goddamn bright and I'll give you a pass on this.


Make it illegal and punishable by death to put LED bars on Jeep Wranglers, and I'll accept any color taillight, turn signal and back-up light the author wants.
 
M-G
2020-06-21 12:18:40 PM  
Every time I come across a GM vehicle like that, I want to cockpunch the person(s) responsible.

And don't get me started on non-amber signals.
 
2020-06-21 1:00:27 PM  

SwiftFox: This kinda reminds me of the old fart state legislator who was confused by "spinner" hubcaps and wanted them banned because he became confuzzled and had an accident while apparently mesmerized by them

Remember spinner hubcaps?


Yep.  The spinning rims lost their status as a 'thing' when Stark told Jarvis to leave them off the Mk VII suit, though.
 
2020-06-21 1:01:56 PM  

wildlifer: SwiftFox: This kinda reminds me of the old fart state legislator who was confused by "spinner" hubcaps and wanted them banned because he became confuzzled and had an accident while apparently mesmerized by them

Remember spinner hubcaps?

Curb feelers..


Had those on my '62 Impala.
 
2020-06-21 1:04:07 PM  

Moniker o' Shame: So whatever light on the ass of the vehicle turns on when it is remotely locked or unlocked.  So what?  How about not having the damned horn sound when this happens?  WTF is that about?  Why on Earth would that be considered a "feature?"  Well, presumably it would be considered a feature if you are my neighbor and am intent on locking and on locking your car every five minutes in order to piss me off.  They do not drive GM vehicles and as far as I know GM does not sound the horn when doing this.


Beeping the horn is a feedback mechanism to confirm that the car has received and executed the command to lock / unlock.  It's for blind drivers who can't see the lights flash.
 
2020-06-21 1:28:08 PM  
If you trawl the packed parts of parking lot lanes seeking & waiting for a close spot to take right after it's vacated, you should not complain about "safety".
 
2020-06-21 2:13:43 PM  

Joe USer: common sense is an oxymoron: He's right.  Psychotic, but absolutely right.

How often does someone actually see the flashing lights and freak out?


I was sitting in my trailer a few months ago and I happened to look out the back window and noticed the person in the space behind me had started their Chevy truck. The back-up lights were on and the guy gets out of his truck and goes back into his trailer. I freaked out a bit, thinking this person had put the truck in reverse and was hoping the parking brake would hold it.

I watched again later and noticed that the backup lights came on as he was coming out of his trailer. That told me that the backup lights were connected to the locking system, which I think is rather stupid.
 
2020-06-21 2:26:35 PM  

SwiftFox: This kinda reminds me of the old fart state legislator who was confused by "spinner" hubcaps and wanted them banned because he became confuzzled and had an accident while apparently mesmerized by them

Remember spinner hubcaps?


This guy does
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2020-06-21 2:44:17 PM  
If this bothers you go into the parking garage, remove the plastic cover over the lights, insert a bomb wired to the power supply, replace the cover, and emit your victory cackle until you realize the voltage of LED lights is too low to trigger the detonator.
 
2020-06-21 3:47:51 PM  
So were all going to ignore the fact that the brake pedal must be depressed to shift from park.... so you would see brake lights then the back-up lights come on in order. This is how we tell when its been put into gear.

Man do people love a good pearl clutching or what.
 
2020-06-21 4:34:58 PM  

DON.MAC: fusillade762: [i.kinja-img.com image 800x251]

Now lets have a discussion about "parking brake" vs "emergency brake"...

In the 80s it was easy.  German cars had emergency brakes, US cars had parking brakes.

If it can stop the car from highway speeds in a reasonable distance with no damage, it is an emergency break.

My 71 Ford had Galaxy had a "keep it from rolling on a flat surface in the wind brake". A 1/4 inch twig as a chock worked better.


To be fair, the regular brakes on a '71 Galaxy can't stop it from highway speeds in a reasonable distance without damage, either.
 
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