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(Greenville Online)   The University of South Carolina has a women's dormitory named for a gynecologist who performed experimental surgeries on slaves without anesthesia   (greenvilleonline.com) divider line
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2020-06-16 11:23:46 AM  
You expect SC to have a problem with that?
 
2020-06-16 11:35:44 AM  
Maybe SC whites could be slaves for a while.
 
2020-06-16 11:50:41 AM  
FTFA: "I feel like we're jumping to conclusions. We're trying to rewrite history," Rice told The Greenville News and Anderson Independent Mail Tuesday. "And I just feel like we need to take a little time. I think we're getting emotional about things."


Republicans are miserable, repulsive, useless people.
 
2020-06-16 12:22:59 PM  
It's not like anesthesia was an option back then, but point taken.
 
2020-06-16 12:43:36 PM  

IgG4: It's not like anesthesia was an option back then, but point taken.


It was first used in the 1840s and was available for most of Sim's career.
 
2020-06-16 12:59:50 PM  
Wiki quotes SC's pitch for their med school at the time:

No place in the United States offers as great opportunities for the acquisition of anatomical knowledge, subjects being obtained from among the colored population in sufficient number for any purpose, and proper dissections carried on without offending any individuals in the community!!


And I threw up a little.
 
2020-06-16 1:36:36 PM  
Why even use names? They should just use a number so no one can get offended. Something  like, oh I don't know, Unit 731.
 
2020-06-16 1:36:46 PM  
The question isn't, "why do you guys wanna take down these statues of awful people?" It's why in God's name the powers that be decided that these, of ALL the Americans in history, were most deserving of being honored. Surely, there are less problematic people that have done some good in this country.
 
2020-06-16 1:37:18 PM  

lurkey: Maybe SC whites could be slaves for a while.


Fark is not your personal erotica site.
 
2020-06-16 1:37:26 PM  
Insert "That's the joke" meme here.
 
2020-06-16 1:38:53 PM  
Welcome to the Alfred Packard Resaurant & Grill.
 
2020-06-16 1:39:13 PM  

wejash: Wiki quotes SC's pitch for their med school at the time:

No place in the United States offers as great opportunities for the acquisition of anatomical knowledge, subjects being obtained from among the colored population in sufficient number for any purpose, and proper dissections carried on without offending any individuals in the community!!


And I threw up a little.


That is some actual literal Nazi shiat right there.
 
2020-06-16 1:40:36 PM  

robodog: lurkey: Maybe SC whites could be slaves for a while.

Fark is not your personal erotica site.


I've often suggested this, and also giving women the exclusive right to vote for a few hundred years, just to see if they do a better job of it.

After, all turn-about is fair play isn't it? What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
 
2020-06-16 1:40:58 PM  

WillJM8528: The question isn't, "why do you guys wanna take down these statues of awful people?" It's why in God's name the powers that be decided that these, of ALL the Americans in history, were most deserving of being honored. Surely, there are less problematic people that have done some good in this country.


Um, because there have been awful people in charge. Some of those who work forces are the same that burn crosses extends well beyond just the police department. When you have a deplorable population they will often elect awful people to places of power when encouraged by dog whistles (see the current president of the united states of america)
 
2020-06-16 1:41:23 PM  
No wonder neo-Confederates and Nazis get along so well.
 
2020-06-16 1:42:21 PM  
State Sen. Rex Rice, Republican from Easley, said he does not support the Clemson or UofSC requests to remove historical figures' names from campus buildings. ..."You start cherry-picking certain people, I think you need to look at everybody. You know, I think for the most part a lot of people have some kind of baggage that somebody is offended by,"

No surprise he is a fan of Dr. Cletus Mengele. Rex Rice sponsored a bill to force invasive vaginal ultrasounds on women who inquire about abortion services.
 
2020-06-16 1:43:12 PM  

Albert911emt: FTFA: "I feel like we're jumping to conclusions. We're trying to rewrite history," Rice told The Greenville News and Anderson Independent Mail Tuesday. "And I just feel like we need to take a little time. I think we're getting emotional about things."


Republicans are miserable, repulsive, useless people.


I hear the same argument whenever there is a mass shooting.
 
2020-06-16 1:43:44 PM  

brantgoose: Welcome to the Alfred Packard Resaurant & Grill.


Sorry - It's "Alferd Packer"


/ resisting the reference to "Ask the Man Who Owns One"  Packard Auto tagline
 
2020-06-16 1:43:47 PM  

WillJM8528: The question isn't, "why do you guys wanna take down these statues of awful people?" It's why in God's name the powers that be decided that these, of ALL the Americans in history, were most deserving of being honored. Surely, there are less problematic people that have done some good in this country.


A lot of people climbed to power and wealth on the backs of slaves.
 
2020-06-16 1:44:47 PM  

jaytkay: State Sen. Rex Rice, Republican from Easley, said he does not support the Clemson or UofSC requests to remove historical figures' names from campus buildings. ..."You start cherry-picking certain people, I think you need to look at everybody. You know, I think for the most part a lot of people have some kind of baggage that somebody is offended by,"

No surprise he is a fan of Dr. Cletus Mengele. Rex Rice sponsored a bill to force invasive vaginal ultrasounds on women who inquire about abortion services.


See, perfect example, awful people in a position of power because they dog whistle to the right awful people.
 
2020-06-16 1:50:09 PM  

Albert911emt: FTFA: "I feel like we're jumping to conclusions. We're trying to rewrite history," Rice told The Greenville News and Anderson Independent Mail Tuesday. "And I just feel like we need to take a little time. I think we're getting emotional about things."


Republicans are miserable, repulsive, useless people.


This shot has been known for decades. What do they need more time for?
 
2020-06-16 1:50:44 PM  

lurkey: Maybe SC whites could be slaves for a while.


Such internet bullshiat. Lead the way, tough-guy.

Please direct me to a living white person that legally owned slaves. My mother (still alive) picked cotton by hand if you wish to know my point of reference. Is slavery wrong? Hell to the YES.
 
2020-06-16 1:55:58 PM  
But you can't judge figures from the past by today's standards!

"Records provide knowledge of his use of at least 11 other enslaved women for medical experimentation... Records also show that some doctors who assisted Sims after being made aware of the inhumane treatment refused to continue working with him. Sims then used enslaved persons to hold down women during surgeries," the resolution reads.

Oh.
 
2020-06-16 1:58:37 PM  

bucket_pup: lurkey: Maybe SC whites could be slaves for a while.

Such internet bullshiat. Lead the way, tough-guy.

Please direct me to a living white person that legally owned slaves. My mother (still alive) picked cotton by hand if you wish to know my point of reference. Is slavery wrong? Hell to the YES.


Legally... OK, no. Illegally, I know of some in the Southwest. Can we use those?
 
2020-06-16 1:59:52 PM  

jaytkay: A lot of people climbed to power and wealth on the backs of slaves.


That's so exaggerated. Only a tiny % of people owned slaves, and I would be shocked if more than a handful of rich families today could trace their fortunes to slave ownership.

shiat, slavery was outlawed for 35 years before my home state of Washington even became a state.

The vast majority of white-owned wealth doesn't own a dime to slavery.
 
2020-06-16 2:03:53 PM  
Damn it's going to suck trying to get around down here when all the streets and buildings are named MLK. I hope everyone keeps there WAZE updated.
 
2020-06-16 2:18:45 PM  

Albert911emt: FTFA: "I feel like we're jumping to conclusions. We're trying to rewrite history," Rice told The Greenville News and Anderson Independent Mail Tuesday. "And I just feel like we need to take a little time. I think we're getting emotional about things."


Republicans are miserable, repulsive, useless people.


"Jumping to conclusions" about events that happened 150 years ago.
 
2020-06-16 2:20:49 PM  

Magnanimous_J: jaytkay: A lot of people climbed to power and wealth on the backs of slaves.

That's so exaggerated. Only a tiny % of people owned slaves, and I would be shocked if more than a handful of rich families today could trace their fortunes to slave ownership.

shiat, slavery was outlawed for 35 years before my home state of Washington even became a state.

The vast majority of white-owned wealth doesn't own a dime to slavery.


The question was about institutions named after people. Those would be prominent people, not ditch diggers. Really. I am not kidding.
 
2020-06-16 2:21:03 PM  
 
2020-06-16 2:27:16 PM  

lurkey: Maybe SC whites could be slaves for a while.


Maybe SC couldnt send any white politician to DC for like 100 years or something
 
2020-06-16 2:35:10 PM  
**is renamed Mengele Hall**
 
2020-06-16 3:05:06 PM  

WillJM8528: The question isn't, "why do you guys wanna take down these statues of awful people?" It's why in God's name the powers that be decided that these, of ALL the Americans in history, were most deserving of being honored. Surely, there are less problematic people that have done some good in this country.


In this case, I get it.

He was being honored for his major contributions to women's health.

Controversy aside, he is still known as the father of modern gynaecology. He invented a surgery that has helped many millions. And his research started a whole field of medicine dedicated to women's health.

I also get why people are offended that he is being honored. He was a disgusting and terrible person who experimented on slaves. His name should be taken down, but I get why someone thought to put it up in the first place. (Sort of like Columbus, I get why people thought to celebrate him, despite his awfulness)
 
2020-06-16 3:23:27 PM  
Oh, yeah, that's a renamin'. Hell, that's a tear-the-building-down moment.
 
2020-06-16 3:50:35 PM  
Captain Shaky
I also get why people are offended that he is being honored. He was a disgusting and terrible person who experimented on slaves. His name should be taken down, but I get why someone thought to put it up in the first place. (Sort of like Columbus, I get why people thought to celebrate him, despite his awfulness)


I'll post it again with more context:

No, he wasn't. Several different articles are available online that address or outright refute the accusations made against him. (More are behind paywalls).


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti​c​les/PMC2563360/
 
2020-06-16 4:32:37 PM  
Everything about the history of women's healthcare is horrifying.

Still is.

/at least we got vibrators out of it...?
 
2020-06-16 5:25:25 PM  
I don't know. This is bad just because it masquerades as "science'. Men already know everything they need to know about women, and vice versa. By the way, when I was in college, you might say I targeted a women's dormitory. Of course I cannot reveal any details because I am discreet.
 
2020-06-16 5:25:36 PM  

Rambino: wejash: Wiki quotes SC's pitch for their med school at the time:

No place in the United States offers as great opportunities for the acquisition of anatomical knowledge, subjects being obtained from among the colored population in sufficient number for any purpose, and proper dissections carried on without offending any individuals in the community!!


And I threw up a little.

That is some actual literal Nazi shiat right there.



Oh in some "unique" ways, South Carolina was almost 100 years ahead of their time alright.
 
2020-06-16 6:06:18 PM  

dionysusaur: You expect SC to have a problem with that?


I expect anyone who watches college football to have a ... Nah. Half of them want patetno back
They don't give a fark.
It's foobahw!
 
2020-06-16 6:06:18 PM  

8tReAsUrEz: bucket_pup: lurkey: Maybe SC whites could be slaves for a while.

Such internet bullshiat. Lead the way, tough-guy.

Please direct me to a living white person that legally owned slaves. My mother (still alive) picked cotton by hand if you wish to know my point of reference. Is slavery wrong? Hell to the YES.

Legally... OK, no. Illegally, I know of some in the Southwest. Can we use those?


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2020-06-16 6:08:13 PM  

Aaron469: Damn it's going to suck trying to get around down here when all the streets and buildings are named MLK. I hope everyone keeps there WAZE updated.


I grew up in Atlanta which has 26 roads with the word Peachtree in it. You'll live.
 
2020-06-16 6:17:04 PM  

bucket_pup: 8tReAsUrEz: bucket_pup: lurkey: Maybe SC whites could be slaves for a while.

Such internet bullshiat. Lead the way, tough-guy.

Please direct me to a living white person that legally owned slaves. My mother (still alive) picked cotton by hand if you wish to know my point of reference. Is slavery wrong? Hell to the YES.

Legally... OK, no. Illegally, I know of some in the Southwest. Can we use those?

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Show your cards, please.


Read 'em and weep, as goes the saying... https://eu.desertsun.com/st​ory/opinion​/columnists/2019/06/09/slavery-21st-ce​ntury-california-yes-trafficking-still​-exists/1369145001/

/Normally, cards don't tickle my fancy, but ya got y'self a game, pardner
 
2020-06-16 7:39:10 PM  
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Angel of Death
 
2020-06-16 8:27:02 PM  
Know what the worst part is. The sickest part.

We still know NOTHING about the female reproductive system. Ask any woman if they've ever had abdominal pain or distress or concerns outright dismissed by doctors. Ask if they've ever been misdiagnosed. Ask someone with Endo how many doctors it took to get a proper diagnosis.

On August 24, 2017, I collapsed at work in extreme abdominal pain and was taken out by ambulance. ER decided it was an ovarian cyst, in spite of having ZERO history of ovarian cysts and ZERO family history of ovarian cysts. And in spite of being an ablation/ligation patient from 2012. They ignored that medical history, and they shouldn't have. Because it turns out i was in post ablation syndrome and my left fallopian tube had exploded. It wasn't found until surgery on October 27, 2017.

Yes folks. I walked around with an organ ruptured to pieces dumping fluid into the rest of my body for two months. In pain the entire time and having my pain largely dismissed though my ob-gyn said, in spite of not knowing the damage done yet, that she wasn't surprised that I was in pain (PATSS is a continuing pain condition).

My surgeon told me I had no right to be alive.

So really. All these lives lost, this horrible nazi-ass shiat right here, and we still act like the female reproductive tract is an actual farking mystery.
 
2020-06-16 11:10:25 PM  

8tReAsUrEz: bucket_pup: 8tReAsUrEz: bucket_pup: lurkey: Maybe SC whites could be slaves for a while.

Such internet bullshiat. Lead the way, tough-guy.

Please direct me to a living white person that legally owned slaves. My mother (still alive) picked cotton by hand if you wish to know my point of reference. Is slavery wrong? Hell to the YES.

Legally... OK, no. Illegally, I know of some in the Southwest. Can we use those?

[Fark user image 144x144]
Show your cards, please.

Read 'em and weep, as goes the saying... https://eu.desertsun.com/sto​ry/opinion/columnists/2019/06/09/slave​ry-21st-century-california-yes-traffic​king-still-exists/1369145001/

/Normally, cards don't tickle my fancy, but ya got y'self a game, pardner


Hall was removed from the family when authorities finally intervened, but she is just one of many California slaves, women mostly, who continue to labor in sweatshops, in brothels, and in the homes of wealthy expatriates, particularly those from the Middle East, where slavery is often tolerated.

Maybe we can get people from the Middle East to be slaves for a while?
 
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