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2020-06-15 7:52:00 PM  
It's all about ethics in auction site reviews.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/15/tech/e​b​ay-cyberstalking/index.html

"The former employees are accused of sending threatening messages to the couple, as well as unsolicited packages including a mask meant to look like a bloody pig, fly larvae, live spiders and a box of cockroaches. According to court documents, they also posted the couple's address to Craigslist and invited singles, couples and swingers to knock on their door "any time of day or night." Prosecutors also accused several of the former employees of flying from California to the couple's home in Massachusetts to "surveil" them, and even of attempting to break into their garage to install a GPS tracker on their vehicle. "
 
2020-06-15 8:21:42 PM  
I haven't been able to find the website of this couple. It would be interesting to read what they had to say. If it struck such a nerve it was probably true!
 
2020-06-15 8:38:53 PM  
According to prosecutors, members of eBay's executive leadership team followed the newsletter and took issue with the content and anonymous comments under the stories.

F*ck eBay.

/watch your back, Drew
 
2020-06-15 9:11:33 PM  
One concert I went to in 2004ish, they put two pig heads on spikes as the singer would sing to them.

Quite the scene.

/Otep
//Ozzfest 2004?
///I have no value to add to this thread
 
2020-06-15 9:19:48 PM  
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"How much is shipping and handling again?"
 
2020-06-15 9:20:37 PM  
 
2020-06-15 9:20:52 PM  
fusillade762:
/watch your back, Drew

The worst a farker would do is send is a keg of natty light.
 
2020-06-15 9:22:04 PM  
"We're going to crush this lady," one eBay executive texted another in April 2019, according to a criminal complaint filed in federal court in Boston that alleged a bizarre intimidation campaign against a Natick couple by the online juggernaut.

Six former eBay employees are accused of harassing and cyberstalking the husband-and-wife team, sending a host of disturbing items that included fly larvae, live spiders, and a bloody pig mask to their home and traveling to Massachusetts to surveil the couple to make them stop publishing a newsletter critical of the online retailer, federal prosecutors said.

It was a "systematic campaign fueled by the resources of a Fortune 500 company to emotionally and psychologically terrorize this middle-aged couple in Natick," US Attorney Andrew E. Lelling said at a news conference.

Prosecutors identified the defendants as James Baugh, 45, of San Jose, Calif., eBay's former senior director of safety and security; David Harville,48, of New York City, eBay's former director of global resiliency; Stephanie Popp, 32, of San Jose, eBay's former senior manager of global intelligence; Stephanie Stockwell, 26, of Redwood City, Calif., former manager of eBay's Global Intelligence Center; Veronica Zea, 26, of San Jose, a former eBay contractor who worked in the center; and Brian Gilbert, 51, of San Jose, a former senior manager of special operations for eBay's global security team who served previously as a Santa Clara police captain.

A systemic campaign of terror organized by a cop? Who'da thunk it...
 
2020-06-15 9:22:05 PM  

Porkbelly: I want to buy one of these on e-bay:

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/​trump-pee-on-me-statues-appear-in-broo​klyn-urinate-new-york-city-nyc-preside​nt-artist/1820668/


Username checks out
 
2020-06-15 9:22:28 PM  
Wow, that's some next level shiat!

I mean, sending porn to the neighbours is pretty funny but setting up a nightly swingers party is damned farking ruthless.

/I've taken notes.
 
2020-06-15 9:25:05 PM  
The whole thing is so crazy it reads like a plot to CSI or a dime store romance novel.
 
2020-06-15 9:25:59 PM  

Salmon: Wow, that's some next level shiat!

I mean, sending porn to the neighbours is pretty funny but setting up a nightly swingers party is damned farking ruthless.

/I've taken notes.


The second I read that I was like "Oh holy shiat they even went full Craigslist!!" ... that's second only to "SWATting" and makes me wonder if that was next on the list.

Holy freaking cow they're going to own eBay when this is all over, not that they would want to unless it would be to change the company from the top down or destroy it. I'm hoping for either.
 
2020-06-15 9:26:24 PM  
Free stuff?

Hey everybody, sign up for my new eNewsletter : "Ebay Sucks Donkey Balls" and the soon to be released eNewletter, "Amazon is a Giant Pile of Steaming Vulture Guano".


/I'm not sure why, but I feel the need to mention I have an irrational fear of expensive electronics and jewelry.
 
2020-06-15 9:27:36 PM  
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2020-06-15 9:28:16 PM  

big pig peaches: Hey everybody, sign up for my new eNewsletter : "Ebay Sucks Donkey Balls" and the soon to be released eNewletter, "Amazon is a Giant Pile of Steaming Vulture Guano".



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2020-06-15 9:29:54 PM  

Salmon: Wow, that's some next level shiat!

I mean, sending porn to the neighbours is pretty funny but setting up a nightly swingers party is damned farking ruthless.

/I've taken notes.


In college we sent a 3 ft dong to a dude who very socially akward and hard to deal with. He lost his collective shiat.

/Those were the days
 
2020-06-15 9:41:15 PM  
I just took a look at EBay's stock and was surprised at how well it's doing. It used to be a reasonable place to sell stuff that you no longer needed/wanted, not it's an even shadier version of overstock.com. I haven't bought anything there in years because the selection became terrible as small sellers were squeezed out with their unreasonable selling fees. What's left are big sellers selling obsolete stuff at near-retail prices. Amazon sucks, but regularly beat Ebay and Facebook Marketplace, NextDoor and other apps are free.
 
2020-06-15 9:50:23 PM  
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2020-06-15 9:54:10 PM  

thorpe: It's all about ethics in auction site reviews.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/15/tech/eb​ay-cyberstalking/index.html

"The former employees are accused of sending threatening messages to the couple, as well as unsolicited packages including a mask meant to look like a bloody pig, fly larvae, live spiders and a box of cockroaches. According to court documents, they also posted the couple's address to Craigslist and invited singles, couples and swingers to knock on their door "any time of day or night." Prosecutors also accused several of the former employees of flying from California to the couple's home in Massachusetts to "surveil" them, and even of attempting to break into their garage to install a GPS tracker on their vehicle. "


Huh.

eBay actually has employees.
 
2020-06-15 9:59:42 PM  

AsparagusFTW: Salmon: Wow, that's some next level shiat!

I mean, sending porn to the neighbours is pretty funny but setting up a nightly swingers party is damned farking ruthless.

/I've taken notes.

In college we sent a 3 ft dong to a dude who very socially akward and hard to deal with. He lost his collective shiat.

/Those were the days


agreed.

I miss the subscription pull-outs from magazines, you could fill out anyone's name and address for a subscription or 10 shiatty cds for a penny and a nightmare trying to cancel afterwards.

The last fun one was when Depends had free samples online, my boss was raging through the office by the time the 5th or 6th package of diapers showed up with his name on them.
 
2020-06-15 10:02:35 PM  
I'd put the bloody pig mask, box of live cockroaches, and funeral wreath back out on eBay and start the bidding at .99 cents each, plus shipping.
 
2020-06-15 10:03:19 PM  

bdunseth: I'd put the bloody pig mask, box of live cockroaches, and funeral wreath back out on eBay and start the bidding at .99 cents each, plus shipping.


Can I get that with gift wrapping/shipping?

/A++++, excellent seller, would buy again
 
2020-06-15 10:13:59 PM  
Ok, there has to be more to this for execs to get involved at this level of clusterfark.
 
2020-06-15 10:15:00 PM  
Progressives are so farked in the head, how does this happen to large groups of people.
 
2020-06-15 10:15:54 PM  
I think the victims were these folks:
https://www.ecommercebytes.com/
 
2020-06-15 10:25:24 PM  

Imaginativescreenname: fusillade762:
/watch your back, Drew

The worst a farker would do is send is a keg of natty light.


Hey man, free beer is free beer.
 
2020-06-15 10:29:30 PM  

eddie_irvine: I just took a look at EBay's stock and was surprised at how well it's doing. It used to be a reasonable place to sell stuff that you no longer needed/wanted, not it's an even shadier version of overstock.com. I haven't bought anything there in years because the selection became terrible as small sellers were squeezed out with their unreasonable selling fees. What's left are big sellers selling obsolete stuff at near-retail prices. Amazon sucks, but regularly beat Ebay and Facebook Marketplace, NextDoor and other apps are free.


I used to sell there back in the early days and it was great for certain things like collectibles, antiques and vintage clothing.

Now it's mainly terrible Chinese knock offs. Even filtering to get stuff that ships from the US or wherever else you are located doesn't work anymore since they'll list a US location but end up shipping from China anyway.

The best alternative I found is interest specific buy/sell/trade groups on Facebook which are free and often surprisingly well regulated amongst themselves.
 
2020-06-15 10:54:10 PM  

liltingbanshee: I think the victims were these folks:
https://www.ecommercebytes.com/


It may be them based on a comment on this article they ran.
https://www.ecommercebytes.com/C/blog​/​blog.pl?/pl/2020/6/1592241873.html

"ecommercebytes is located in Natick, Ma. 1+1= David & Ina"
 
2020-06-15 11:08:30 PM  
Why do ppl use eBay? Seriously!
I used it once, like 2003??????
The disc didn't work. It was blank? Who knows. I placed it in every single type of hardware. From cd/DVD/pc.
Meh? They gave me my money back, and I never used eBay, again. To this very second. And I didn't die. Same thing with Walmart. When I was 16 ??? 24? Something. I bought a cassette. It turns out to be censored. Never ever ever bought media form Walmart again. And I didn't die. What's up with you all????
 
2020-06-15 11:12:55 PM  

This text is now purple: Huh.

eBay actually has employees.


And the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.

a lifetime ago, I used to work for an internet provider; we used to host some advertising subsidiary owned by ebay. One day we received a takedown notice from ebay's lawyers claiming that we were hosting a fraudulent site trying to steal ebay login info. they demanded it be taken down immediately, and that they had already notified the FBI so better hurry the fark up if we know what's good for us.

...Except the domain we were hosting was part of ebay, and was referred to numerous times in their own online help information. It took forever to get a hold of a live person at ebay HQ, and once we explained the notice we received from them they kind of went into panic mode stressing we should NOT take it offline and that it was indeed part of their official site. Suggested that they may want to let the FBI know that they farked up as well.
 
2020-06-15 11:16:21 PM  

waxbeans: Why do ppl use eBay? Seriously!
I used it once, like 2003??????
The disc didn't work. It was blank? Who knows. I placed it in every single type of hardware. From cd/DVD/pc.
Meh? They gave me my money back, and I never used eBay, again. To this very second. And I didn't die. Same thing with Walmart. When I was 16 ??? 24? Something. I bought a cassette. It turns out to be censored. Never ever ever bought media form Walmart again. And I didn't die. What's up with you all????



There's a time and place for everything.

Buying a 'new laptop', new playstation or xbox of ebay?  Beyond stupid indeed.
But buying a used hard-to-find DVD set for pennies on the dollar?  Why not?

As long as the seller has good reviews and you can afford to lose the money, it's not all bad.
 
2020-06-15 11:16:42 PM  
What. In. The. Actual. Fark. ??
 
2020-06-15 11:18:57 PM  

Excelsior: This text is now purple: Huh.

eBay actually has employees.

And the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.

a lifetime ago, I used to work for an internet provider; we used to host some advertising subsidiary owned by ebay. One day we received a takedown notice from ebay's lawyers claiming that we were hosting a fraudulent site trying to steal ebay login info. they demanded it be taken down immediately, and that they had already notified the FBI so better hurry the fark up if we know what's good for us.

...Except the domain we were hosting was part of ebay, and was referred to numerous times in their own online help information. It took forever to get a hold of a live person at ebay HQ, and once we explained the notice we received from them they kind of went into panic mode stressing we should NOT take it offline and that it was indeed part of their official site. Suggested that they may want to let the FBI know that they farked up as well.


Wow. WTF.
Well, that guarantees I'll never use them over.
 
2020-06-15 11:23:43 PM  

Excelsior: Buying a 'new laptop', new playstation or xbox of ebay?  Beyond stupid indeed.
But buying a used hard-to-find DVD set for pennies on the dollar?  Why not?

As long as the seller has good reviews and you can afford to lose the money, it's not all bad.


Odd that you say that.
That, was what I was buying.
It was a DVD of Johnny Got His Gun.
Apparently, Metallica, bought it. And doesn't publish it.

It would be 15 years before I got to see the movie. On a Irate May DL. That I deleted right after seeing the movie. Had saw it as a kid in 1988. Wanted to see it again.
//Lars Ulrich can eat a cock.
 
2020-06-15 11:24:38 PM  

Excelsior: waxbeans: Why do ppl use eBay? Seriously!
I used it once, like 2003??????
The disc didn't work. It was blank? Who knows. I placed it in every single type of hardware. From cd/DVD/pc.
Meh? They gave me my money back, and I never used eBay, again. To this very second. And I didn't die. Same thing with Walmart. When I was 16 ??? 24? Something. I bought a cassette. It turns out to be censored. Never ever ever bought media form Walmart again. And I didn't die. What's up with you all????


There's a time and place for everything.

Buying a 'new laptop', new playstation or xbox of ebay?  Beyond stupid indeed.
But buying a used hard-to-find DVD set for pennies on the dollar?  Why not?

As long as the seller has good reviews and you can afford to lose the money, it's not all bad.


yeah, I'll use it for really specific items: really hard to find motorcycle parts and musical items.
 
2020-06-15 11:33:09 PM  

waxbeans: Excelsior: This text is now purple: Huh.

eBay actually has employees.

And the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.

a lifetime ago, I used to work for an internet provider; we used to host some advertising subsidiary owned by ebay. One day we received a takedown notice from ebay's lawyers claiming that we were hosting a fraudulent site trying to steal ebay login info. they demanded it be taken down immediately, and that they had already notified the FBI so better hurry the fark up if we know what's good for us.

...Except the domain we were hosting was part of ebay, and was referred to numerous times in their own online help information. It took forever to get a hold of a live person at ebay HQ, and once we explained the notice we received from them they kind of went into panic mode stressing we should NOT take it offline and that it was indeed part of their official site. Suggested that they may want to let the FBI know that they farked up as well.

Wow. WTF.
Well, that guarantees I'll never use them over.


This was ~2004 or so, I'd expect that they are a bit more internet savvy by now.
 
2020-06-16 12:54:43 AM  
The detail of this story that I thought was potentially the creepiest was that they sent the couple a book about dealing with your spouse's death. That would be terrifying.
If someone turns this into a movie, I would absolutely watch it.
 
2020-06-16 1:18:44 AM  
This story is insane even by 2020 standards. I hope the settlement figure is prodigious.
 
2020-06-16 1:20:14 AM  

37dragonfly: The detail of this story that I thought was potentially the creepiest was that they sent the couple a book about dealing with your spouse's death. That would be terrifying.
If someone turns this into a movie, I would absolutely watch it.


This alone would make me want to embark on a Taken style revenge mission.
 
2020-06-16 1:38:11 AM  
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2020-06-16 2:19:40 AM  

bdunseth: I'd put the bloody pig mask, box of live cockroaches, and funeral wreath back out on eBay and start the bidding at .99 cents each, plus shipping.


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2020-06-16 4:33:23 AM  

Excelsior: waxbeans: Excelsior: This text is now purple: Huh.

eBay actually has employees.

And the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.

a lifetime ago, I used to work for an internet provider; we used to host some advertising subsidiary owned by ebay. One day we received a takedown notice from ebay's lawyers claiming that we were hosting a fraudulent site trying to steal ebay login info. they demanded it be taken down immediately, and that they had already notified the FBI so better hurry the fark up if we know what's good for us.

...Except the domain we were hosting was part of ebay, and was referred to numerous times in their own online help information. It took forever to get a hold of a live person at ebay HQ, and once we explained the notice we received from them they kind of went into panic mode stressing we should NOT take it offline and that it was indeed part of their official site. Suggested that they may want to let the FBI know that they farked up as well.

Wow. WTF.
Well, that guarantees I'll never use them over.

This was ~2004 or so, I'd expect that they are a bit more internet savvy by now.


I wouldn't assume anything.
 
2020-06-16 4:52:39 AM  

Salmon: yeah, I'll use it for really specific items: really hard to find motorcycle parts and musical items.


Back in the day when my kids had nintendo DS handhelds, they would lose styluses like you wouldn't believe.

Went to ebay, searched for DS stylus with free shipping and no reserve -- there'd be hundreds of listings. Sort by ending soonest, and bid a penny each on the first 20 auctions that didn't have any other bids.  lose some, win some -- A week later there'd be a dozen different envelopes from china, each containing one stylus, for a whopping 12 cents total.
 
2020-06-16 8:40:24 AM  
YakuzaBay
 
2020-06-16 11:39:01 AM  
Someone wants to pay $310.00 (plus shipping) for something I bought for $12.00? Sounds good to me.
 
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