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2020-06-15 11:32:43 AM  
I am happy to see this happen in Fla. And AZ and Al and TX.

Because I am evil?

But I am pissed that OH and MI and WI are not increasing. Their protests and ignoring the safety rules should have caused a jump by now.
Where is their state shattering Ka-Boom?
 
2020-06-15 11:35:32 AM  

mayochamp: I was going to say California, but they have had double that and it's a blue state, so that's not worthy of ridicule here. Carry on.


It is a virus. It is medical, not political. California has about about 40 million people. Florida has about 22 million. It would stand to reason there would be more cases where the population is more dense. New York - lots of cases. Wyoming - very few cases. See how that works? Amazing, isn't it?
 
2020-06-15 11:38:51 AM  
COVID is here.
We have no vaccine.
It has a 4% mortality rate. That translates to 14 million dead Americans by the time this runs its course.

All we can do at this point is make sure those 14 million don't happen at the same time; but it's going to happen, we cannot stop it.

Now we've learned there may not be asymptomatic transmission; we've learned that staying inside may help transmit the virus.

So maybe instead of quarantining everyone, it's time to start quarantining just the sick ones.
 
2020-06-15 11:55:04 AM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: ultradeeg: Subby's mom's retirement home?

No, no.  You're thinking of chlamydia.


Give me chlamydia once, shame on you. Give me chlamydia twice.....can't get chlamydia again.
 
2020-06-15 11:56:04 AM  

Gyrfalcon: COVID is here.
We have no vaccine.
It has a 4% mortality rate. That translates to 14 million dead Americans by the time this runs its course.

All we can do at this point is make sure those 14 million don't happen at the same time; but it's going to happen, we cannot stop it.

Now we've learned there may not be asymptomatic transmission; we've learned that staying inside may help transmit the virus.

So maybe instead of quarantining everyone, it's time to start quarantining just the sick ones.


not sure if serious, but I'll bite. you realize the quarantined ones require medical care, right? That means people like me either get quarantined with them or I go home and take the chance of spreading it anyway (which is what I'm doing now). Because this affects people differently, for all I know I have it. Pollen kicks my ass. I've been walking around feeling like shiat for weeks. But, I have no fever. On a normal day, my temp runs 96.4 (really). So if I do have a fever, it's going to go somewhere around 99 - that won't set off any alarms.

I'm not a supporter of everyone staying at home or being in quarantine for no reason.

1. Wear a mask. A real mask, not a farking hanky. There's no reason in the world N95's shouldn't be on the shelves everywhere you go, except our government is so busy protecting their jobs they are forgetting to do their jobs. Billions of masks could have been produced in the last 3 months.
2. Use hand sanitizer. Every single time you touch something in public. When you get home, wash your hands with soap and water.
3. Social distancing. Boo hoo, you can't eat at your favorite place. Get it to go and spend time with you family. It's actually fun. The technology exists to have new release movies sent to your home directly, but corporate America says "no fair, we'll only make hundreds of millions instead of billions". Haircuts - wear a mask, they wear as mask - it really is that easy. Or, be like me and just shave your farking head. Who cares? You won't grace the cover of GQ for a few months. It doesn't matter.
4. Give a shiat about people less fortunate than you. Not everyone is a healthy 30-something with no medical conditions. Some are old, heart conditions, obesity, diabetes, lung disease, cancer, etc. Think about your fellow humans for a change and make a few small simple sacrifices for them. That's really not asking too much.
5. Stop pretending like this is a political issue. It is not. A virus will infect a Democrat, Independent, or Republican with equal gusto. That's what a virus does. Pretending it is anything else is just stupidity.

But we can't do that as a nation because we are divided. it starts at the top and works its way down. The man in charge has 40% of this country in a cult-status. With 40% of people being told to not wear masks and to liberate their states and stand up for their rights, this will continue to spread no matter how much care the other 60% takes.

I agree with you, there will be death on a large scale and there's pretty much nothing we can do to stop it because almost half the country thinks it's a joke and\or they're selfish and just don't give a shiat.
 
2020-06-15 11:58:39 AM  
damn - sorry. Didn't mean to get on the soapbox. Enough posting for today.
 
2020-06-15 12:05:10 PM  

mayochamp: shiat we have Oregon shutting down again due to rise in cases, and no thread on that.


https://www.fark.com/comments/1084504​0​/Governor-of-Oregon-Yeah-how-about-we-​hold-back-on-reopening-right-now
 
2020-06-15 12:10:00 PM  
Gyrfalcon: It has a 4% mortality rate. That translates to 14 million dead Americans by the time this runs its course.

Not even close.  Stop the fearmongering bullshiat.
 
2020-06-15 12:11:48 PM  

Tad_Waxpole: Gyrfalcon: It has a 4% mortality rate. That translates to 14 million dead Americans by the time this runs its course.

Not even close.  Stop the fearmongering bullshiat.


That was the last reliable number I saw. Instead of being a dick, why not correct my figures?
 
2020-06-15 12:15:12 PM  

tyrannosaurushex: That Florida tag is laughable. We got it on a whim due to lockboxes showing up in dumpsters, but only 30% of our population is native.

Which says at least two things:

1. Stastically speaking, the misdeeds attributed to "Floridians" are more than likely the handiwork of another state's village idiot.

2. If Florida is so awful, why do all of you keep coming here/retiring here.

That said, Desantis is a dummy and the RNC in Jax is going to be a nightmare. Imagine Opera giving out cars but the cars are Covid 19.


If Opera was giving out cars, I might change back from Brave Browser.
 
2020-06-15 12:20:33 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Tad_Waxpole: Gyrfalcon: It has a 4% mortality rate. That translates to 14 million dead Americans by the time this runs its course.

Not even close.  Stop the fearmongering bullshiat.

That was the last reliable number I saw. Instead of being a dick, why not correct my figures?


Right now the CDC speculates that the real rate is about .2%.

Your number only takes into account confirmed cases.  So somebody would need to feel sick enough to see a doctor, get a test, then become a confirmed case before they die.  It doesn't take into account all of those with mild or no symptoms, so they never get tested, which we're learning is probably the vast majority of those who are infected.

The number of infected but unconfirmed is likely to be several magnitudes higher than those who are confirmed cases.
 
2020-06-15 12:31:52 PM  

Tad_Waxpole: Gyrfalcon: Tad_Waxpole: Gyrfalcon: It has a 4% mortality rate. That translates to 14 million dead Americans by the time this runs its course.

Not even close.  Stop the fearmongering bullshiat.

That was the last reliable number I saw. Instead of being a dick, why not correct my figures?

Right now the CDC speculates that the real rate is about .2%.

Your number only takes into account confirmed cases.  So somebody would need to feel sick enough to see a doctor, get a test, then become a confirmed case before they die.  It doesn't take into account all of those with mild or no symptoms, so they never get tested, which we're learning is probably the vast majority of those who are infected.

The number of infected but unconfirmed is likely to be several magnitudes higher than those who are confirmed cases.


So its even less of an issue than I said

Why are we flipping out like it was rabies?
 
2020-06-15 12:43:02 PM  

mayochamp: adj_m: mayochamp: I was going to say California, but they have had double that and it's a blue state, so that's not worthy of ridicule here. Carry on.

If California had double (they don't) they'd be doing just as badly as Florida, as they have twice as many people.

Yes they do, and I will refer you to the many other threads where fark totally ignores per capita when it comes to making red states look bad when they are just the same as any blue state. shiat we have Oregon shutting down again due to rise in cases, and no thread on that. But holy crap we have had like 7 for Tulsa and Jacksonville for shiat that hasn't even happened yet.


Yeah, math is hard.
 
2020-06-15 1:07:00 PM  
Gyrfalcon:

So its even less of an issue than I said
Why are we flipping out like it was rabies?


No one is counting the number of people that survive and have permanent health issues. No one knows how long it will keep circulating. From one region to another then back again, even stronger. Factor in those before you declare no issue.
 
2020-06-15 1:50:05 PM  
My guess is Earth
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2020-06-15 2:15:05 PM  

MythDragon: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: ultradeeg: Subby's mom's retirement home?

No, no.  You're thinking of chlamydia.

Give me chlamydia once, shame on you. Give me chlamydia twice.....can't get chlamydia again.


Really?!? so a prophylactic case of it is a GOOD thing...

/I dinna see that coming
 
2020-06-15 2:20:04 PM  

FarkingChas: Because I am evil?


Yes.
 
2020-06-15 2:20:38 PM  
NASCAR just invited 1200 officials, over 1k fans (Selected Military and 1st Responders), about 250 teams and drivers for a weekend of racing at Homestead/Miami Speedway.

/Just to prove that rednecks b rednecks, no matter how successful and rich they are
// that'll make it spread thru half the south
 
2020-06-15 2:23:09 PM  

Tad_Waxpole: Gyrfalcon: It has a 4% mortality rate. That translates to 14 million dead Americans by the time this runs its course.

Not even close.  Stop the fearmongering bullshiat.


14 million predicted dead - The number actually dead = The number of lives saved by Trump. It's simple math. Let's see how it works out.
 
2020-06-15 2:25:05 PM  

Mikeyworld: NASCAR just invited 1200 officials, over 1k fans (Selected Military and 1st Responders), about 250 teams and drivers for a weekend of racing at Homestead/Miami Speedway.

/Just to prove that rednecks b rednecks, no matter how successful and rich they are
// that'll make it spread thru half the south


Is that more or less than the number of people at the BLM protests?
 
2020-06-15 2:51:15 PM  

Hey Nurse!: damn - sorry. Didn't mean to get on the soapbox. Enough posting for today.


No reason to apologize.  In fact, thanks for saving me some typing.  I've about had it with trying to address all the blatantly wrong (intentionally, willfully, or just plain poorly taught) posts here and elsewhere.  But, we should really try... it was _just_ the willfully ignorant and belligerent and confidently incorrect and selfish getting sick and dying, I'd have stopped caring months ago.  Hell, if they'd carve a farkin' DNR into their foreheads and make sure every member of their family knew they were all going to be committed, irrevocably, to denying any attempt at medical care, I'd be hanging up Trump Rally posters.

But no, they will inevitably shriek for compassion and understanding and heroic efforts when _they_ are the ones who need the vents, and, far worse -- will take with them the healthcare pros who have to care for them, who will then get sick when the hospitals are overflowing and the PPE is gone.

We're long past a reckoning about responsibility for giving megaphones to ignorant information causing direct harm to public health.  But, Fark ain't the only place that seems not to care, and it's a drop in the bucket compared to the horrorshow that is FB and Twitter.
 
2020-06-15 2:54:54 PM  

PaulRB: Might be time for a Florida-ectomy.


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2020-06-15 2:58:43 PM  

Hey Nurse!: Gyrfalcon: COVID is here.
We have no vaccine.
It has a 4% mortality rate. That translates to 14 million dead Americans by the time this runs its course.

All we can do at this point is make sure those 14 million don't happen at the same time; but it's going to happen, we cannot stop it.

Now we've learned there may not be asymptomatic transmission; we've learned that staying inside may help transmit the virus.

So maybe instead of quarantining everyone, it's time to start quarantining just the sick ones.

not sure if serious, but I'll bite. you realize the quarantined ones require medical care, right? That means people like me either get quarantined with them or I go home and take the chance of spreading it anyway (which is what I'm doing now). Because this affects people differently, for all I know I have it. Pollen kicks my ass. I've been walking around feeling like shiat for weeks. But, I have no fever. On a normal day, my temp runs 96.4 (really). So if I do have a fever, it's going to go somewhere around 99 - that won't set off any alarms.

I'm not a supporter of everyone staying at home or being in quarantine for no reason.

1. Wear a mask. A real mask, not a farking hanky. There's no reason in the world N95's shouldn't be on the shelves everywhere you go, except our government is so busy protecting their jobs they are forgetting to do their jobs. Billions of masks could have been produced in the last 3 months.
2. Use hand sanitizer. Every single time you touch something in public. When you get home, wash your hands with soap and water.
3. Social distancing. Boo hoo, you can't eat at your favorite place. Get it to go and spend time with you family. It's actually fun. The technology exists to have new release movies sent to your home directly, but corporate America says "no fair, we'll only make hundreds of millions instead of billions". Haircuts - wear a mask, they wear as mask - it really is that easy. Or, be like me and just shave your farking head. Who cares ...


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2020-06-15 3:09:03 PM  
I live on the East Coast of Florida, in Indian River County and when I go out to get something, I wear a mask in the stores. So far, from what I can estimate, out of every 6 people shopping, 5 wear no masks. 90% of the businesses have their employees masked up but I've been in some where the workers either wore no masks, wore them improperly (nose sticking out the top), or just a few workers wore them at all.

I ordered a pizza to take home and while I waited in a chair 6 foot from the next one, the guy cutting, packing and setting out the pizza had his nose poking out of his mask, breathing all over the food.

All around town it's the same thing. I sat in Walmart's Parking lot for a bit and watched herds of folks go in without masks with some looking like they'd give you heck if you mentioned it and others with their heads up and looking proud to be idiots. I was unhappy to see entire families, kids and all, go in mask-less, which led me to believe that the folks didn't care about their kids health.

Now, I can't see my Dr.s but have to have phone conversations with them but if something serious happens I can go to the ER. So the medical facilities are following orders.

It's hard to fathom that the city and county government is not making mask wearing mandatory. Yes, we do have Covid19 cases in town and they're growing. Yet Joe and Josephine Idiot are determined not to wear masks because they feel it's a government conspiracy.

They don't require spacing between people but many of the stores do. I'm waiting until we get top heavy with Covid 19 cases to see what the mask-less people do. One cemetery is about full and another has limited space.
 
2020-06-15 3:15:48 PM  

Mikeyworld: NASCAR just invited 1200 officials, over 1k fans (Selected Military and 1st Responders), about 250 teams and drivers for a weekend of racing at Homestead/Miami Speedway.

/Just to prove that rednecks b rednecks, no matter how successful and rich they are
// that'll make it spread thru half the south


They banned the Loser flag though.   I'm sure 1,000 is as best its going to get from here on out

One black guy and some Toyotas ruined it for the 'necks
 
2020-06-15 3:32:36 PM  

mayochamp: adj_m: mayochamp: I was going to say California, but they have had double that and it's a blue state, so that's not worthy of ridicule here. Carry on.

If California had double (they don't) they'd be doing just as badly as Florida, as they have twice as many people.

Yes they do, and I will refer you to the many other threads where fark totally ignores per capita when it comes to making red states look bad when they are just the same as any blue state. shiat we have Oregon shutting down again due to rise in cases, and no thread on that. But holy crap we have had like 7 for Tulsa and Jacksonville for shiat that hasn't even happened yet.


I'm pretty sure California still has twice the population of Florida.
 
2020-06-15 4:19:11 PM  

Alien Robot: Mikeyworld: NASCAR just invited 1200 officials, over 1k fans (Selected Military and 1st Responders), about 250 teams and drivers for a weekend of racing at Homestead/Miami Speedway.

/Just to prove that rednecks b rednecks, no matter how successful and rich they are
// that'll make it spread thru half the south

Is that more or less than the number of people at the BLM protests?


One's a sporting event; the other is life. Can you see the difference?
 
2020-06-15 4:20:42 PM  

Hey Nurse!: Gyrfalcon: COVID is here.
We have no vaccine.
It has a 4% mortality rate. That translates to 14 million dead Americans by the time this runs its course.

All we can do at this point is make sure those 14 million don't happen at the same time; but it's going to happen, we cannot stop it.

Now we've learned there may not be asymptomatic transmission; we've learned that staying inside may help transmit the virus.

So maybe instead of quarantining everyone, it's time to start quarantining just the sick ones.

not sure if serious, but I'll bite. you realize the quarantined ones require medical care, right? That means people like me either get quarantined with them or I go home and take the chance of spreading it anyway (which is what I'm doing now). Because this affects people differently, for all I know I have it. Pollen kicks my ass. I've been walking around feeling like shiat for weeks. But, I have no fever. On a normal day, my temp runs 96.4 (really). So if I do have a fever, it's going to go somewhere around 99 - that won't set off any alarms.

I'm not a supporter of everyone staying at home or being in quarantine for no reason.

1. Wear a mask. A real mask, not a farking hanky. There's no reason in the world N95's shouldn't be on the shelves everywhere you go, except our government is so busy protecting their jobs they are forgetting to do their jobs. Billions of masks could have been produced in the last 3 months.
2. Use hand sanitizer. Every single time you touch something in public. When you get home, wash your hands with soap and water.
3. Social distancing. Boo hoo, you can't eat at your favorite place. Get it to go and spend time with you family. It's actually fun. The technology exists to have new release movies sent to your home directly, but corporate America says "no fair, we'll only make hundreds of millions instead of billions". Haircuts - wear a mask, they wear as mask - it really is that easy. Or, be like me and just shave your farking head. Who cares ...


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2020-06-15 4:30:39 PM  

FLMountainMan: OmnomnomCookies: Add to that, re-opening theme parks and theaters, reopening schools, and college football season...you're basically looking at 'Rona until there is a vaccine.

We were looking at that before.  Did you honestly think it was just going to go away?

The GOP has dug in their heels and now we get to watch the numbers keep going up.  Rather than take sensible measures to slow things to where they could be minimized, we're going to just take the batteries out of the smoke detectors.  Good jerb.

As opposed to what?  The Democratic fantasy land where we all stay locked inside for the next year until a vaccine is developed?  That doesn't work either.

GardenWeasel: The blue state intent was to starve out the virus.

I honestly chuckled at this.


Yeah, let's go with the hyperbole, solid strategy.  How about implementing measures like New Zealand? Population of 5 million, 1100 cases, 22 deaths.  But go ahead and give the GOP talking point of, "We can't try your idea, it would never work!"

Also, nobody said anything about staying locked inside until a vaccine is developed either.  See the previous point, common sense approaches can actually work instead of having a president that touts treatment from a drug that the FDA pulled the plug on, injecting Clorox, having your Senators and Congressmen pick a fight with a celeb, and saying, "Hey, here's $1200, we good for 5 months, right?  Oh, don't ask for details on where the $500B we loaned out went to."  The lack of solutions from Republicans has been the same song all over.  How's that Obamacare replacement working for you?  Idiots tearing crap apart because it solves a problem they don't want solved, and when they are posed with providing an alternative they are stuck showing they would rather have the problem than any solution.  Fark the poors and middle class.

Since you enjoy throwing out absurd options, how's this?  Is your GOP solution to mail everyone a Bible, separate people by race, give everyone a voucher for a free gun, and pass another tax cut?  Thoughts and prayers, buddy.  Thanks for playing.
 
2020-06-15 4:52:48 PM  
democratic Hoax
 
2020-06-15 5:44:38 PM  
The WHO has said that in countries that have conducted extensive testing for COVID-19, should remain at 5% or lower for at least 14 days.
I don't know if Florida is doing extensive testing.
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https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/i​n​dividual-states/florida
 
2020-06-15 5:59:08 PM  

SmithHiller: The WHO has said that in countries that have conducted extensive testing for COVID-19, should remain at 5% or lower for at least 14 days.
I don't know if Florida is doing extensive testing.
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https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/in​dividual-states/florida


Found a report that states that Florida needs to do 16,000 tests per day.
https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/27/c​o​ronavirus-many-states-short-of-testing​-levels-needed-for-safe-reopening/
 
2020-06-15 7:26:25 PM  

dammit just give me a login: GardenWeasel: DeSantis told WPLG on Friday that he attributed the state's rise in cases to an outbreak among farmworkers in north central Florida.

They just can't help being racist f*cks.

While I completely agree in principle with your statement, there may be some truth to Governor Trump-Humper's words.

I am not familiar with the situation in north central FL, but in the southern central parts of the state, there seem to be 2 types of areas with the highest number of cases.  The more populated areas with higher numbers of elderly and the areas where a lot of the agricultural workers live; Indiantown, Belle Glade, Clewiston, Immokalee.

FL DOH map by zip code:
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For instance, in Martin County (where I'm farking around), there have been almost 1200 cases. Nearly 500 from Indiantown, nearly 300 from south Stuart, about 170 in Stuart.  (Stuart and south Stuart are not agricultural, but have a higher demographic of less affluent folks.)  In all of the more affluent areas, the total cases are under 100.  Indiantown has a large Hispanic population with a lot of them performing agricultural work.  You'll see several old school buses full of workers being transported to/from the various farms on any given day.

source: https://fdoh.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsd​ashboard/index.html#/74c7375b03894e689​20c2d0131eef1e6


This is a very good analysis. Just wanted to add that DeSoto County (in red) also has a lot of undocumented or work visa folks who carpool and drive west to Sarasota and Manatee Counties to do day labor and work with landscaping companies.
 
2020-06-15 7:37:44 PM  

MSBFDffpm: PaulRB: Might be time for a Florida-ectomy.

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Wow, we've never seen that in a Florida thread before.
 
2020-06-15 9:57:20 PM  
old thread, i know,

but i just got a text from tampa that 3 residents in my g-ma's nursing home (critical care/hospice/advanced memory care) were sent to hospital symptomatic and tested positive. i am SURE many residents have it.

and they were being strict! ZERO non-staff visitors, pics-thru-the-window, the whole thing.

and it still got in.
 
2020-06-16 2:44:26 AM  

Mikeyworld: One's a sporting event; the other is life. Can you see the difference?


Can the coronavirus? How does it avoid political gatherings that you approve of? Is it sentient?
 
2020-06-16 9:13:44 AM  

GardenWeasel: EyeHaveRisen: Perhaps those areas were not being tested until now.

Either way, the lockdown won't work.   Do the herd immunity thing like Switzerland did and get it over with.
3% isn't enough excuse to shut it all down.

Lets get to work

There was a study last week on Fark stating the antibodies were so inconsistent that herd immunity may never be achieved.

And Sweden was a dumpster fire.


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2020-06-16 12:10:13 PM  

Alien Robot: Mikeyworld: One's a sporting event; the other is life. Can you see the difference?

Can the coronavirus? How does it avoid political gatherings that you approve of? Is it sentient?


...and , Pray tell, when did I mention polictical crap? I DO not approve of your sheltered opinion. Get out, get hit on by a po-po, and maybe notice that people are dying because of our 'protectors'
 
2020-06-16 1:26:19 PM  

luna1580: old thread, i know,



I dunno what made me click it to check in, but I'm glad I did, even if you'll probably not see this.

I'm sure you're stressed out of your mind.  And angry.  Etc.  Good luck.  Hope it goes better than we are right to fear.  EIP if you want to vent.  Take care of yourself, ok?
 
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