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2020-06-12 8:40:41 AM  
Because you can't fix stupid but it can be placed on a ventilator
 
2020-06-12 8:49:25 AM  
Tulsa will be a new epicenter about ten days after next week's Trump rally.

Most Americans have changed their behavior since about March 15th. COVID-19 has gone through a few mutations, but it is still the same goddamn virus that it was on March 15th.
 
2020-06-12 9:07:38 AM  
It was all of those protesters last week that did it.  See you at Party Cove on the lake this Saturday!
 
2020-06-12 9:15:49 AM  
This whole crisis reminds me of the movie Melancholia. People see the rogue planet moving away and rejoice, unaware it's just circling back around before impact.
 
2020-06-12 9:19:24 AM  

capt_sensible: Because you can't fix stupid but it can be placed on a ventilator


If there are available ventilators.
 
2020-06-12 9:21:13 AM  
In a few days Georgia is going full pants on head and opening everything.  Bars, clubs, restaurants, theaters, everything.  Not looking forward to the next month.
 
2020-06-12 9:22:29 AM  
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2020-06-12 9:27:24 AM  
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2020-06-12 9:27:59 AM  
Obvious tag is making a lot of moves lately
 
2020-06-12 9:37:57 AM  
New York
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You do the mask math
 
2020-06-12 9:38:06 AM  
Problem:
You've asked the country for voluntary suicides, but none came.

Solution:
Reopen.
 
2020-06-12 9:50:00 AM  
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Screenshot today from Bing coronavirus tracker. Hopefully a glitch.
 
2020-06-12 9:52:57 AM  
It has been said time after time, but apparently few get the message, or understand it : Covid is here. Unless you are content to live in a bubble, and have the means to do so, you will be exposed to it.  When you are, you will have to deal with the effects.  98+% survive.  This is reality.  Hiding means that you will be exposed to it later, but you will still have to deal with it.  There will be 'spikes' as long as there are unexposed people.  'Waiting it out' is an exercise in futility.  Masks and gloves are merely delaying tactics.. If it is fatal to someone, it will be so whenever they are exposed, now or later.   We all hope and pray for medical advances that will control Covid, but that is a big IF, and it will take time, if it is a possibility, which nobody knows.
   Covid is an invisible beast that we all must face, with no other options.   Deal with it now, deal with it later, but you will have to deal with it.   The world has to deal with it, and most will survive.
 
2020-06-12 9:56:36 AM  
You sure the Obvious tag wasn't last seen holding a protest sign?

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2020-06-12 10:00:46 AM  
"Die for the DOW!! GET THOSE PROFIT MACHINES GOING!!! I NEED ANOTHER YACHT"

A month later: "Gosh, why are so many of the unwashed poors still dying?"
 
2020-06-12 10:06:47 AM  
From TFA:

"Though experts aren't exactly sure why these states are experiencing an unexpected uptick in cases..."

I also can't imagine why these states experienced an UNEXPECTED uptick.
 
2020-06-12 10:15:45 AM  

OlderGuy: It has been said time after time, but apparently few get the message, or understand it : Covid is here. Unless you are content to live in a bubble, and have the means to do so, you will be exposed to it.  When you are, you will have to deal with the effects.  98+% survive.  This is reality.  Hiding means that you will be exposed to it later, but you will still have to deal with it.  There will be 'spikes' as long as there are unexposed people.  'Waiting it out' is an exercise in futility.  Masks and gloves are merely delaying tactics.. If it is fatal to someone, it will be so whenever they are exposed, now or later.   We all hope and pray for medical advances that will control Covid, but that is a big IF, and it will take time, if it is a possibility, which nobody knows.
Covid is an invisible beast that we all must face, with no other options.   Deal with it now, deal with it later, but you will have to deal with it.   The world has to deal with it, and most will survive.


Or, you know, we delay the infection long enough to get a vaccine.  In that case, we will "deal" with it later without having to kill a lot of people.
 
2020-06-12 10:17:26 AM  

OlderGuy: It has been said time after time, but apparently few get the message, or understand it : Covid is here. Unless you are content to live in a bubble, and have the means to do so, you will be exposed to it.  When you are, you will have to deal with the effects.  98+% survive.  This is reality.  Hiding means that you will be exposed to it later, but you will still have to deal with it.  There will be 'spikes' as long as there are unexposed people.  'Waiting it out' is an exercise in futility.  Masks and gloves are merely delaying tactics.. If it is fatal to someone, it will be so whenever they are exposed, now or later.   We all hope and pray for medical advances that will control Covid, but that is a big IF, and it will take time, if it is a possibility, which nobody knows.
Covid is an invisible beast that we all must face, with no other options.   Deal with it now, deal with it later, but you will have to deal with it.   The world has to deal with it, and most will survive.


So no lives matter. Got it.
 
2020-06-12 10:18:59 AM  

OlderGuy: It has been said time after time, but apparently few get the message, or understand it : Covid is here. Unless you are content to live in a bubble, and have the means to do so, you will be exposed to it.  When you are, you will have to deal with the effects.  98+% survive.  This is reality.  Hiding means that you will be exposed to it later, but you will still have to deal with it.  There will be 'spikes' as long as there are unexposed people.  'Waiting it out' is an exercise in futility.  Masks and gloves are merely delaying tactics.. If it is fatal to someone, it will be so whenever they are exposed, now or later.   We all hope and pray for medical advances that will control Covid, but that is a big IF, and it will take time, if it is a possibility, which nobody knows.
Covid is an invisible beast that we all must face, with no other options.   Deal with it now, deal with it later, but you will have to deal with it.   The world has to deal with it, and most will survive.


The mortality in the US is about 5% https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/morta​lity
It was about 15% in France. A LOT of your mortality chances has to do with the hospitals being overrun. Right now we are hovering at 80% of so of capacity. So yes, keeping it to 20k or so cases a day might be a good idea. Or we could get in a hurry to get over this and triple the mortality rate so that those who could recover with proper care can't get it.
 
2020-06-12 10:21:06 AM  

MindStalker: OlderGuy: It has been said time after time, but apparently few get the message, or understand it : Covid is here. Unless you are content to live in a bubble, and have the means to do so, you will be exposed to it.  When you are, you will have to deal with the effects.  98+% survive.  This is reality.  Hiding means that you will be exposed to it later, but you will still have to deal with it.  There will be 'spikes' as long as there are unexposed people.  'Waiting it out' is an exercise in futility.  Masks and gloves are merely delaying tactics.. If it is fatal to someone, it will be so whenever they are exposed, now or later.   We all hope and pray for medical advances that will control Covid, but that is a big IF, and it will take time, if it is a possibility, which nobody knows.
Covid is an invisible beast that we all must face, with no other options.   Deal with it now, deal with it later, but you will have to deal with it.   The world has to deal with it, and most will survive.

The mortality in the US is about 5% https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/morta​lity
It was about 15% in France. A LOT of your mortality chances has to do with the hospitals being overrun. Right now we are hovering at 80% of so of capacity. So yes, keeping it to 20k or so cases a day might be a good idea. Or we could get in a hurry to get over this and triple the mortality rate so that those who could recover with proper care can't get it.


How many rural areas have no hospitals?
 
2020-06-12 10:25:28 AM  

jjwars1: [Fark user image 422x750]

Screenshot today from Bing coronavirus tracker. Hopefully a glitch.


Michigan decided that they were going to start including probably cases in their numbers. That was them adding it in, happened about a week ago or so. You'll notice the days after are all back to normal.
 
2020-06-12 10:26:32 AM  
FTFA: "This virus is much more spotty," said Arnold Monto, professor of epidemiology at the University of Michigan School for Public Health. "It is so complicated that when people give you a simple answer to this, it's probably not right."

Crazy when the expert doesn't think that it's obvious.
 
2020-06-12 10:27:51 AM  
Ric Romero asks...

No.  Ric Romero tells.
 
2020-06-12 10:34:28 AM  
Because America values money over people, of course.
 
2020-06-12 10:35:52 AM  

awruk!: capt_sensible: Because you can't fix stupid but it can be placed on a ventilator

If there are available ventilators.


Well then, I guess that would fix stupid
 
2020-06-12 10:44:07 AM  
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2020-06-12 10:55:42 AM  

dbrunker: You sure the Obvious tag wasn't last seen holding a protest sign?

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Picture is from 2018 but I'm sure you will get some gullible people to believe your #fakenews.
 
2020-06-12 11:27:33 AM  

Rapmaster2000: OlderGuy: It has been said time after time, but apparently few get the message, or understand it : Covid is here. Unless you are content to live in a bubble, and have the means to do so, you will be exposed to it.  When you are, you will have to deal with the effects.  98+% survive.  This is reality.  Hiding means that you will be exposed to it later, but you will still have to deal with it.  There will be 'spikes' as long as there are unexposed people.  'Waiting it out' is an exercise in futility.  Masks and gloves are merely delaying tactics.. If it is fatal to someone, it will be so whenever they are exposed, now or later.   We all hope and pray for medical advances that will control Covid, but that is a big IF, and it will take time, if it is a possibility, which nobody knows.
Covid is an invisible beast that we all must face, with no other options.   Deal with it now, deal with it later, but you will have to deal with it.   The world has to deal with it, and most will survive.

Or, you know, we delay the infection long enough to get a vaccine.  In that case, we will "deal" with it later without having to kill a lot of people.


A vaccine would be great.. also mostly wishful thinking..  the Flu, HIV, AIDs, the Common Cold... nope, nada... no vaccine yet.... we do have Flu shots, which help on certain strains, but no vaccine.  We are still a long way from having a full understanding of how Covid works.   We are learning more every day, but a virus is an incredibly complicated organism, and nature has had many decades and centuries to tweak viruses to be more effective..   all about the programming in the DNA..  Nature can alter that, we cannot.   We also cannot survive hiding... surviving is moving forward, hiding is standing still..  My neighbor is 97, she would not survive Covid.  She can hide.  She has no need of going out.  As I am her support, I do have to go out.  I have to buy groceries, for her and myself.   I have to keep things working so she doesn't have to go out.  I do the banking, pay the bills, keep the grass cut, but I have to do that for myself too, and don't have a problem doing it.  I have been exposed, and still here.   As long as there are people not exposed, there will be new cases.  No way around that.
 
2020-06-12 11:35:34 AM  

Begoggle: dbrunker: You sure the Obvious tag wasn't last seen holding a protest sign?

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Picture is from 2018 but I'm sure you will get some gullible people to believe your #fakenews.


Assuming you're telling the truth, why don't you write a letter to the editor and ask them why they used it in their June 8, 2020 article on George Floyd protests.  While you're at it you might want to fix this article and this one too
 
2020-06-12 11:38:41 AM  
It's not like we had mass gatherings in major metropolitan areas recently.
 
2020-06-12 11:44:49 AM  

MindStalker: OlderGuy: It has been said time after time, but apparently few get the message, or understand it : Covid is here. Unless you are content to live in a bubble, and have the means to do so, you will be exposed to it.  When you are, you will have to deal with the effects.  98+% survive.  This is reality.  Hiding means that you will be exposed to it later, but you will still have to deal with it.  There will be 'spikes' as long as there are unexposed people.  'Waiting it out' is an exercise in futility.  Masks and gloves are merely delaying tactics.. If it is fatal to someone, it will be so whenever they are exposed, now or later.   We all hope and pray for medical advances that will control Covid, but that is a big IF, and it will take time, if it is a possibility, which nobody knows.
Covid is an invisible beast that we all must face, with no other options.   Deal with it now, deal with it later, but you will have to deal with it.   The world has to deal with it, and most will survive.

The mortality in the US is about 5% https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/morta​lity
It was about 15% in France. A LOT of your mortality chances has to do with the hospitals being overrun. Right now we are hovering at 80% of so of capacity. So yes, keeping it to 20k or so cases a day might be a good idea. Or we could get in a hurry to get over this and triple the mortality rate so that those who could recover with proper care can't get it.


Death is one end of the spectrum. Some people clear the infection without ever noticing it.

In between those two endpoints, there are a huge number of ways that this disease can fark up your health for weeks, months, or possibly years. Lung damage. Strokes. Amputated limbs. Heart damage. 6-figure hospital bills. Lost work due to extreme fatigue. You name it.

Do not focus only on the death rate. Look for stats on hospital admissions, and do the math on the "fully recovered" vs. "total cases" numbers in your area. And wear a farking mask.
 
2020-06-12 11:49:06 AM  

OlderGuy: A vaccine would be great.. also mostly wishful thinking..  the Flu, HIV, AIDs, the Common Cold... nope, nada... no vaccine yet.... we do have Flu shots, which help on certain strains, but no vaccine.


What, precisely, do you think is inside those flu "shots"? Tequila?

Flu mutates rapidly and we need new vaccines each year. Measles, polio, chicken pox, hepatitis A & B, etc., etc. do not have this problem and do not need to be repeated annually. SARS-CoV-2 mutates slowly.
 
2020-06-12 12:11:41 PM  

Ivo Shandor: MindStalker: OlderGuy: It has been said time after time, but apparently few get the message, or understand it : Covid is here. Unless you are content to live in a bubble, and have the means to do so, you will be exposed to it.  When you are, you will have to deal with the effects.  98+% survive.  This is reality.  Hiding means that you will be exposed to it later, but you will still have to deal with it.  There will be 'spikes' as long as there are unexposed people.  'Waiting it out' is an exercise in futility.  Masks and gloves are merely delaying tactics.. If it is fatal to someone, it will be so whenever they are exposed, now or later.   We all hope and pray for medical advances that will control Covid, but that is a big IF, and it will take time, if it is a possibility, which nobody knows.
Covid is an invisible beast that we all must face, with no other options.   Deal with it now, deal with it later, but you will have to deal with it.   The world has to deal with it, and most will survive.

The mortality in the US is about 5% https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/morta​lity
It was about 15% in France. A LOT of your mortality chances has to do with the hospitals being overrun. Right now we are hovering at 80% of so of capacity. So yes, keeping it to 20k or so cases a day might be a good idea. Or we could get in a hurry to get over this and triple the mortality rate so that those who could recover with proper care can't get it.

Death is one end of the spectrum. Some people clear the infection without ever noticing it.

In between those two endpoints, there are a huge number of ways that this disease can fark up your health for weeks, months, or possibly years. Lung damage. Strokes. Amputated limbs. Heart damage. 6-figure hospital bills. Lost work due to extreme fatigue. You name it.

Do not focus only on the death rate. Look for stats on hospital admissions, and do the math on the "fully recovered" vs. "total cases" numbers in your area. And wear a farking mask.


Yep, we should look at this similar to how we looked at Polio.  Polio only killed 5 to 10% of those infected but it permanently injured far more.  "Hey look, you will eventually get polio one way or another, why worry about it".
 
2020-06-12 12:45:17 PM  

ShonenBat: It's not like we had mass gatherings in major metropolitan areas recently.


Shhh! That's awfully close to racist talk.

Everyone knows diseases forgive social gatherings as long as your intentions are pure.

We went from 'You can't have a funeral for your dead mom - it's too risky!' to 'thousands of people protesting together is fine' in a week.
 
2020-06-12 12:53:20 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: We went from 'You can't have a funeral for your dead mom - it's too risky!' to 'thousands of people protesting together is fine' in a week.


Are they really saying "this is fine" or is it more "this is necessary"?
 
2020-06-12 1:20:47 PM  

capt_sensible: awruk!: capt_sensible: Because you can't fix stupid but it can be placed on a ventilator

If there are available ventilators.

Well then, I guess that would fix stupid


Don't know about fixing, but it has certainly potential for removing it.
 
2020-06-12 2:32:46 PM  

Ivo Shandor: OlderGuy: A vaccine would be great.. also mostly wishful thinking..  the Flu, HIV, AIDs, the Common Cold... nope, nada... no vaccine yet.... we do have Flu shots, which help on certain strains, but no vaccine.

What, precisely, do you think is inside those flu "shots"? Tequila?

Flu mutates rapidly and we need new vaccines each year. Measles, polio, chicken pox, hepatitis A & B, etc., etc. do not have this problem and do not need to be repeated annually. SARS-CoV-2 mutates slowly.


Yes, this.  People seem to want to believe that this particular virus mutates like the flu.

https://www.healthline.com/health-new​s​/what-to-know-about-mutation-and-covid​-19#The-bottom-line

The new coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 has already mutated a handful of times, which has many people wondering whether the mutations could lead to a more severe, deadlier disease.
According to experts, the new mutations are extremely similar to the original virus that appeared in Wuhan, China, and don't seem to be any more aggressive.
Because the mutations are so similar, a vaccine would likely protect people against not only the original strain but new mutations as well.


I'm not sure why people want to believe that this particular SARS coronavirus is endemic when the last two weren't.  We don't have to live with an old people killing disease forever.  We can eradicate it with multiple means.  SARS and MERS were eliminated simply through isolation.
 
2020-06-12 9:56:47 PM  

Rapmaster2000: OlderGuy: It has been said time after time, but apparently few get the message, or understand it : Covid is here. Unless you are content to live in a bubble, and have the means to do so, you will be exposed to it.  When you are, you will have to deal with the effects.  98+% survive.  This is reality.  Hiding means that you will be exposed to it later, but you will still have to deal with it.  There will be 'spikes' as long as there are unexposed people.  'Waiting it out' is an exercise in futility.  Masks and gloves are merely delaying tactics.. If it is fatal to someone, it will be so whenever they are exposed, now or later.   We all hope and pray for medical advances that will control Covid, but that is a big IF, and it will take time, if it is a possibility, which nobody knows.
Covid is an invisible beast that we all must face, with no other options.   Deal with it now, deal with it later, but you will have to deal with it.   The world has to deal with it, and most will survive.

Or, you know, we delay the infection long enough to get a vaccine.  In that case, we will "deal" with it later without having to kill a lot of people.


How many years are you willing to hide ?
 
2020-06-12 9:58:53 PM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: OlderGuy: It has been said time after time, but apparently few get the message, or understand it : Covid is here. Unless you are content to live in a bubble, and have the means to do so, you will be exposed to it.  When you are, you will have to deal with the effects.  98+% survive.  This is reality.  Hiding means that you will be exposed to it later, but you will still have to deal with it.  There will be 'spikes' as long as there are unexposed people.  'Waiting it out' is an exercise in futility.  Masks and gloves are merely delaying tactics.. If it is fatal to someone, it will be so whenever they are exposed, now or later.   We all hope and pray for medical advances that will control Covid, but that is a big IF, and it will take time, if it is a possibility, which nobody knows.
Covid is an invisible beast that we all must face, with no other options.   Deal with it now, deal with it later, but you will have to deal with it.   The world has to deal with it, and most will survive.

So no lives matter. Got it.


All lives matter... to me.   Covid doesn't think about it.   It,s looking for another host to infect.
 
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