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TWX [TotalFark]
2020-06-10 8:50:14 PM  
This isn't what the world thinks.  This is what various people from around the world think.

I happen to agree with a lot of their assertions, but I do not for a minute think that there aren't a sadly large number of people that think he's doing the right thing because of their own authoritarian leanings, even in western and western-aligned countries.
 
2020-06-10 8:54:02 PM  
We feel pity for the American people NOT for Cheetolini and his ilk.  We feel contempt for Drumpf.
 
2020-06-10 11:09:40 PM  

TWX: but I do not for a minute think that there aren't a sadly large number of people that think he's doing the right thing because of their own authoritarian leanings, even in western and western-aligned countries.


I wonder if this is true. Does anyone have data on this at hand? I can't be arsed to google it.
 
2020-06-10 11:21:16 PM  
I hate that motherf*cker with the heat of 1000 suns

/But I'm American, so who cares?
 
2020-06-10 11:55:30 PM  
Pity. It's not just for fools, anymo'.

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2020-06-11 2:11:14 AM  
That dude from Iran hasn't chimed in yet, I'll wait.

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2020-06-11 2:12:49 AM  
I don't know if pity is the right word... I feel like Americans have brought this on themselves. The society is inherently flawed. I guess you do still feel pity for someone that keeps harming themselves but eventually you just have to move on.
 
2020-06-11 2:14:08 AM  

TWX: This isn't what the world thinks. This is what various people from around the world think.


What the world actually thinks is ".....billion...."

Which is the only word it knows.  And it takes a billion years to say it.
 
2020-06-11 2:17:07 AM  

TWX: This isn't what the world thinks.  This is what various people from around the world think.


The post from Canada echoes my thoughts and the thoughts of other Canadians with whom I discuss the issue.  We feel badly for you suffering under a moronic and ineffective government, but after so many years of becoming bloated and self-assured this downfall was inevitable.

And not a day goes by where I don't hear someone say some variation of "glad the borders are closed".

/how many anecdotes make up a dataset?
 
2020-06-11 2:17:51 AM  

comrade: I don't know if pity is the right word... I feel like Americans have brought this on themselves. The society is inherently flawed. I guess you do still feel pity for someone that keeps harming themselves but eventually you just have to move on.


The American people didn't choose Trump.  Our stupid outdated electoral system chose him.
 
2020-06-11 2:19:04 AM  
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2020-06-11 2:20:13 AM  
Angst subby, pity and angst.
 
2020-06-11 2:20:35 AM  

Snapper Carr: comrade: I don't know if pity is the right word... I feel like Americans have brought this on themselves. The society is inherently flawed. I guess you do still feel pity for someone that keeps harming themselves but eventually you just have to move on.

The American people didn't choose Trump.  Our stupid outdated electoral system chose him.


Addendum:   That's not to say that there aren't a disappointing large number of people in this country who are either supportive of or generally apathetic about his policies but I think the general consensus is clearly that he is dangerously incompetent if not malevolent.
 
2020-06-11 2:22:41 AM  

comrade: I don't know if pity is the right word... I feel like Americans have brought this on themselves. The society is inherently flawed. I guess you do still feel pity for someone that keeps harming themselves but eventually you just have to move on.


Maybe we like to live this way.  Maybe we're the Charlie Sheen of countries, banging seven gram rocks because that's how we roll.  We've got tiger blood!
 
2020-06-11 2:23:13 AM  

i ignore u: comrade: I don't know if pity is the right word... I feel like Americans have brought this on themselves. The society is inherently flawed. I guess you do still feel pity for someone that keeps harming themselves but eventually you just have to move on.

Maybe we like to live this way.  Maybe we're the Charlie Sheen of countries, banging seven gram rocks because that's how we roll.  We've got tiger blood!


Oh also...

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2020-06-11 2:25:44 AM  

Snapper Carr: comrade: I don't know if pity is the right word... I feel like Americans have brought this on themselves. The society is inherently flawed. I guess you do still feel pity for someone that keeps harming themselves but eventually you just have to move on.

The American people didn't choose Trump.  Our stupid outdated electoral system chose him.


Bullshiat. Your collective civic apathy elected him. From the moment he came down that escalator it was painfully obvious to the whole world that he was the worst kind of laughingstock: a dangerous one. Yet your politicians and media gave him legitimacy and on election day a third of you didn't even bother to show up.

Your country is deeply sick and all of you share the blame for turning a blind eye to it. Your electoral college would have denied him the win if the vote had been fair, but so many of you pretend the disenfranchisement of voters in blue areas is status quo. Your courts should have stopped him but they've been stacked with naked partisans for decades. Mitch snubbed Merrick Garland and let Trump walk free of impeachment because you and your nation showed him there are no consequences.

Stop pretending the system is at fault, the people are at fault for building the system in their own cynical, racist, anti-intellectual image.
 
2020-06-11 2:26:00 AM  
Good. Enable the java and get the corona. Or worse. Feck off, cup.
 
2020-06-11 2:28:32 AM  

Snapper Carr: comrade: I don't know if pity is the right word... I feel like Americans have brought this on themselves. The society is inherently flawed. I guess you do still feel pity for someone that keeps harming themselves but eventually you just have to move on.

The American people didn't choose Trump.  Our stupid outdated electoral system chose him.


My point is is that trump isn't the problem.  American traits like individualism is the problem.
 
2020-06-11 2:34:56 AM  

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Yeah, I saved that one too and was going to post it.
 
2020-06-11 2:39:15 AM  

comrade: Snapper Carr: comrade: I don't know if pity is the right word... I feel like Americans have brought this on themselves. The society is inherently flawed. I guess you do still feel pity for someone that keeps harming themselves but eventually you just have to move on.

The American people didn't choose Trump.  Our stupid outdated electoral system chose him.

My point is is that trump isn't the problem.  American traits like individualism is the problem.


Individualism is a pretty broad philisophical and socio-poilitical brush, that covers everything from libertarian socialism to Randism, anarchism to classical liberalism, and everything in between.

That said, the current concept as apparently imagined by the GOP of almost Andrew Ryan levels of sillyness certainly doesn't help things.
 
2020-06-11 2:39:34 AM  

comrade: Snapper Carr: comrade: I don't know if pity is the right word... I feel like Americans have brought this on themselves. The society is inherently flawed. I guess you do still feel pity for someone that keeps harming themselves but eventually you just have to move on.

The American people didn't choose Trump.  Our stupid outdated electoral system chose him.

My point is is that trump isn't the problem.  American traits like individualism is the problem.


Do not disagree with this point at all. It's something I finally realized after getting older. We are raised with the concept that America is this mecca of freedom and space to do what you want. Free speech, guns, and fark yeah!

Fortunately there are many here among us, who think that life is not a joke. That our friends, neighbors, and other country people deserve respect and support. We may not be a vocal majority but the recent protests and the pandemic has wakened a lot of our complacent selves into actualizing this social concern. We'll get there. I hope. Sigh.
 
2020-06-11 2:47:40 AM  
They're being generous.
 
2020-06-11 2:47:42 AM  
As an American I feel disgust.
 
2020-06-11 2:48:37 AM  

Barfmaker: TWX: but I do not for a minute think that there aren't a sadly large number of people that think he's doing the right thing because of their own authoritarian leanings, even in western and western-aligned countries.

I wonder if this is true. Does anyone have data on this at hand? I can't be arsed to google it.


I'd wager the people who support Orban or Duterte think he's peaches. Authoritarian propaganda exists everywhere
 
2020-06-11 2:51:25 AM  

theAyshe: Snapper Carr: comrade: I don't know if pity is the right word... I feel like Americans have brought this on themselves. The society is inherently flawed. I guess you do still feel pity for someone that keeps harming themselves but eventually you just have to move on.

The American people didn't choose Trump.  Our stupid outdated electoral system chose him.

Bullshiat. Your collective civic apathy elected him. From the moment he came down that escalator it was painfully obvious to the whole world that he was the worst kind of laughingstock: a dangerous one. Yet your politicians and media gave him legitimacy and on election day a third of you didn't even bother to show up.

Your country is deeply sick and all of you share the blame for turning a blind eye to it. Your electoral college would have denied him the win if the vote had been fair, but so many of you pretend the disenfranchisement of voters in blue areas is status quo. Your courts should have stopped him but they've been stacked with naked partisans for decades. Mitch snubbed Merrick Garland and let Trump walk free of impeachment because you and your nation showed him there are no consequences.

Stop pretending the system is at fault, the people are at fault for building the system in their own cynical, racist, anti-intellectual image.


Hey now, fully a third of us have been literally screaming about this shiat for like, 30 years.
 
2020-06-11 2:54:45 AM  
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Because Scottsmen do not mince words.
 
2020-06-11 2:55:11 AM  
The attitudes expressed here are as valid as the people in this country who think exactly the same way.  However, remember the U.K. has BoJo, and La Farge keeps flapping his mouth; The Philippines has Duterte; the former Soviet satellite countries have somehow made multiple clones of the three stooges and put versions in power; France has Marine Le Pen and her followers who won't go away; Italy is Italy; China and India are ready to start sending angry letters to each other; Israel's Prime Minister and his wife have been indicted for corruption . . . and of course there's Pooty, sitting on top of his pile of pilfered rubles.
So maybe we should take a little bit of pride.  Of them all, Trump is likely the worst.
 
2020-06-11 2:55:13 AM  
Trump regime related:

- disbelief at the current state of affairs. this is in large part because of the stark contrast between the Obama era (when we largely thought the US was  - finally - getting itself right) and the present bunch.
- sympathy for those who suffer the depredations of a GOP-led govt. Seriously, you guys are getting f*cked over (bigly?)

in general :

- confusion as to why the US stubbornly refuses to unf*ck itself and move into the future, rather than crucify itself on its past; and the near-hysterical levels of social masturbation over the f*cking constitution. Your constitution should serve your people, not the other way around. As such it both can, and should, be up to period review through the lens of the country's current place in history and desired place in the future. But no-o-o-oooo.

For what we want to believe is a, even the, can-do get-up-and-go kind of nation, the crucial area of societal modernisation is where you choose to drag your feet. This is an idiocy on a par with the intractable Israel/Palestine conflict.

In short, we wish your political presence would go back to being annoying for being brash and cocky, which we cringed at a bit but could accept in a spirit of fraternity, instead of stupid and vicious which imperils us all.

Be aware that this is how the US is being presented. Your reality may be different.
I freely admit to never having been to the US , but also to having an ever-decreasing desire to do so.
 
2020-06-11 2:56:33 AM  

I dont want to be on this planet anymore: That dude from Iran hasn't chimed in yet, I'll wait.

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Iranians tend to be polite.
 
2020-06-11 3:00:23 AM  

TWX: This isn't what the world thinks.  This is what various people from around the world think.

I happen to agree with a lot of their assertions, but I do not for a minute think that there aren't a sadly large number of people that think he's doing the right thing because of their own authoritarian leanings, even in western and western-aligned countries.


And yet, funnily enough, not many countries have elected their own version of Trump; just the usual authoritarian states ... and the UK.

So yes, Canada, New Zealand, Australia etc DO have room to criticise.
 
2020-06-11 3:15:11 AM  

TWX: This isn't what the world thinks.  This is what various people from around the world think.

I happen to agree with a lot of their assertions, but I do not for a minute think that there aren't a sadly large number of people that think he's doing the right thing because of their own authoritarian leanings, even in western and western-aligned countries.


No, it's pretty representative. Nobody in the world understands why the US still has capitalized health care, something that exaggerates the pandemic. Or uses the Imperial measurement system, for that matter.

Ok, sure, I suppose some countries understand that. Some? I meant, a couple. Two. Namely Liberia and Myanmar.
 
2020-06-11 3:16:42 AM  
Yep, pity. Right now you're the family member that we know we can't help until after you hit bottom. It's heartbreaking.
 
2020-06-11 3:38:03 AM  

Ketchuponsteak: I dont want to be on this planet anymore: That dude from Iran hasn't chimed in yet, I'll wait.

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Iranians tend to be polite.


youve never been to Southern California have you
 
2020-06-11 4:08:31 AM  

comrade: I don't know if pity is the right word... I feel like Americans have brought this on themselves. The society is inherently flawed. I guess you do still feel pity for someone that keeps harming themselves but eventually you just have to move on.


Like an abused spouse that keeps going back to their partner. At a certain point you start to resent them, and the pity gets mixed with a bit of disdain.
 
2020-06-11 4:37:06 AM  
I has a sad.
 
2020-06-11 5:02:18 AM  

Barfmaker: TWX: but I do not for a minute think that there aren't a sadly large number of people that think he's doing the right thing because of their own authoritarian leanings, even in western and western-aligned countries.

I wonder if this is true. Does anyone have data on this at hand? I can't be arsed to google it.


I can't find cut and dried recent numbers through Google, but I did find these:

Pew Research, January 2020 (just after impeachment but before Corona and the BLM resurgence):
"Anti-Trump sentiments are especially common in Western Europe: Roughly three-in-four or more lack confidence in Trump in Germany, Sweden, France, Spain and the Netherlands. He also gets especially poor reviews in Mexico, where 89% do not have confidence in him."
https://www.pewresearch.org/global/20​2​0/01/08/trump-ratings-remain-low-aroun​d-globe-while-views-of-u-s-stay-mostly​-favorable/

The Guardian April 2020
"To a watching world, the absence of a fair, affordable US healthcare system, the cut-throat contest between American states for scarce medical supplies, the disproportionate death toll among ethnic minorities, chaotic social distancing rules, and a lack of centralised coordination are reminiscent of a poor, developing country, not the most powerful, influential nation on earth."
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2​0​20/apr/12/us-global-reputation-rock-bo​ttom-donald-trump-coronavirus

The Guardian, May 2020:
"A poll in France last week found Merkel to be far and away the most trusted world leader. Just 2% had confidence Trump was leading the world in the right direction. Only Boris Johnson and Xi Jinping inspired less faith."
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2​0​20/may/15/donald-trump-coronavirus-res​ponse-world-leaders

Sorry a bit heavy on left leaning Guardian links, but that's all the recent coverage I could find on international opinion polling. America First apparently is already heavily in effect when it comes to this subject ;)
 
2020-06-11 5:26:06 AM  
My dad is a centre-right, Murdoch-paper subscribing, Tory.

When I was a kid, he would always repeat the truism that those under 30 who aren't left wing have no heart, but those over 30 who are not right wing have no brains.

We argue about Brexit, whether the BBC should be publicly funded, whether crowds toppling statues is a good thing, and might have considered emigrating if Jeremy Corbyn had become Prime Minister.

We both think Donald Trump is a dangerously ignorant bellend.
 
2020-06-11 5:29:07 AM  
Doh this is where I should have posted it:

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2020-06-11 5:30:41 AM  

Father_Jack: Ketchuponsteak: I dont want to be on this planet anymore: That dude from Iran hasn't chimed in yet, I'll wait.

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Iranians tend to be polite.

youve never been to Southern California have you


No.

I was thinking about Iranians in Iran actually.
 
2020-06-11 6:42:33 AM  
Publicly funded healthcare, free education and minimum income aren't socialist, they're merely inconvienent to the Wealthy since they require everyone pay a fair share, including them.
 
2020-06-11 7:04:36 AM  

comrade: I don't know if pity is the right word... I feel like Americans have brought this on themselves. The society is inherently flawed. I guess you do still feel pity for someone that keeps harming themselves but eventually you just have to move on.


It seems that your education system is at-fault -it is underfunded and run by greedy SOB's with no interest in actually educating the next generation..
You treat teachers like you treat unionized trash collectors
No emphasis on critical thinking skills - just memorize a bunch of facts to pass a standardized test.
And Zero Tolerance
And an unhealthy emphasis on football
 
2020-06-11 7:34:50 AM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: comrade: I don't know if pity is the right word... I feel like Americans have brought this on themselves. The society is inherently flawed. I guess you do still feel pity for someone that keeps harming themselves but eventually you just have to move on.

It seems that your education system is at-fault -it is underfunded and run by greedy SOB's with no interest in actually educating the next generation..
You treat teachers like you treat unionized trash collectors
No emphasis on critical thinking skills - just memorize a bunch of facts to pass a standardized test.
And Zero Tolerance
And an unhealthy emphasis on football


Why bother with educated citizens who can think on their own and who will question your motives when it's so much easier to manipulate the dumb masses into voting for you and believing every word you say.
 
2020-06-11 8:21:17 AM  

Hagbard_C: Barfmaker: TWX: but I do not for a minute think that there aren't a sadly large number of people that think he's doing the right thing because of their own authoritarian leanings, even in western and western-aligned countries.

I wonder if this is true. Does anyone have data on this at hand? I can't be arsed to google it.

I can't find cut and dried recent numbers through Google, but I did find these:

Pew Research, January 2020 (just after impeachment but before Corona and the BLM resurgence):
"Anti-Trump sentiments are especially common in Western Europe: Roughly three-in-four or more lack confidence in Trump in Germany, Sweden, France, Spain and the Netherlands. He also gets especially poor reviews in Mexico, where 89% do not have confidence in him."
https://www.pewresearch.org/global/202​0/01/08/trump-ratings-remain-low-aroun​d-globe-while-views-of-u-s-stay-mostly​-favorable/

The Guardian April 2020
"To a watching world, the absence of a fair, affordable US healthcare system, the cut-throat contest between American states for scarce medical supplies, the disproportionate death toll among ethnic minorities, chaotic social distancing rules, and a lack of centralised coordination are reminiscent of a poor, developing country, not the most powerful, influential nation on earth."
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/20​20/apr/12/us-global-reputation-rock-bo​ttom-donald-trump-coronavirus

The Guardian, May 2020:
"A poll in France last week found Merkel to be far and away the most trusted world leader. Just 2% had confidence Trump was leading the world in the right direction. Only Boris Johnson and Xi Jinping inspired less faith."
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/20​20/may/15/donald-trump-coronavirus-res​ponse-world-leaders

Sorry a bit heavy on left leaning Guardian links, but that's all the recent coverage I could find on international opinion polling. America First apparently is already heavily in effect when it comes to this subject ;)


The Guardian is a centrist paper. It appears  left-leaning because of the extreme right slant of most comparators. It's the same with your major political parties:  the Democrats are extremely right wing; the Republicans are so much further to the right you can't really even see them on less you zoom way out.
 
2020-06-11 8:21:52 AM  
"Unless you zoom way out."
 
2020-06-11 9:03:01 AM  

PerpetualPeristalsis: Hagbard_C: Barfmaker: TWX: but I do not for a minute think that there aren't a sadly large number of people that think he's doing the right thing because of their own authoritarian leanings, even in western and western-aligned countries.

I wonder if this is true. Does anyone have data on this at hand? I can't be arsed to google it.

I can't find cut and dried recent numbers through Google, but I did find these:

Pew Research, January 2020 (just after impeachment but before Corona and the BLM resurgence):
"Anti-Trump sentiments are especially common in Western Europe: Roughly three-in-four or more lack confidence in Trump in Germany, Sweden, France, Spain and the Netherlands. He also gets especially poor reviews in Mexico, where 89% do not have confidence in him."
https://www.pewresearch.org/global/202​0/01/08/trump-ratings-remain-low-aroun​d-globe-while-views-of-u-s-stay-mostly​-favorable/

The Guardian April 2020
"To a watching world, the absence of a fair, affordable US healthcare system, the cut-throat contest between American states for scarce medical supplies, the disproportionate death toll among ethnic minorities, chaotic social distancing rules, and a lack of centralised coordination are reminiscent of a poor, developing country, not the most powerful, influential nation on earth."
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/20​20/apr/12/us-global-reputation-rock-bo​ttom-donald-trump-coronavirus

The Guardian, May 2020:
"A poll in France last week found Merkel to be far and away the most trusted world leader. Just 2% had confidence Trump was leading the world in the right direction. Only Boris Johnson and Xi Jinping inspired less faith."
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/20​20/may/15/donald-trump-coronavirus-res​ponse-world-leaders

Sorry a bit heavy on left leaning Guardian links, but that's all the recent coverage I could find on international opinion polling. America First apparently is already heavily in effect when it comes to this subject ;)

The Guardian is a centrist paper. It appears  left-leaning because of the extreme right slant of most comparators. It's the same with your major political parties:  the Democrats are extremely right wing; the Republicans are so much further to the right you can't really even see them on less you zoom way out.


I quite agree with you.I still stand by 'left leaning' as opposed to 'left wing' (like salon.com for instance). Their news section and selection is objectively centrist, but I think I can safely state that their opinion writers on average pick Labour over the Tories. All in all a solid newspaper, but for a larger picture a few more sources (especially a right leaning one) would've been nice.
 
2020-06-11 10:41:53 AM  
The US is hamstrung by religion.
 
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