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(CBS Boston)   Christopher Columbus statue gets beheaded overnight in Boston. Cue the "Simpsons Already Did It" plotline   (boston.cbslocal.com) divider line
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2020-06-10 2:22:25 PM  
This must the work of the evil Hans Sprungfeld, the murderous pirate!
 
2020-06-10 3:41:03 PM  
A noble spririt embiggens the smallest man.
 
2020-06-10 4:13:13 PM  
Reminds me of the movie Heaven Help Us, where the boys behead the statue of (I think) St. Basil in the school yard. Donald Sutherland plays the head of the school and admits to one of the other brothers "I always hated that statue."
 
2020-06-10 4:20:57 PM  
 
2020-06-10 4:21:59 PM  
Who? Wasn't he a slaveowner? Or a member of the Confederacy? Whatever, we don't need to know now. He's been erased from history.
 
2020-06-10 4:22:35 PM  

farkingismybusiness: A noble spririt embiggens the smallest man.


A perfectly cromulent take.
 
2020-06-10 4:24:50 PM  
That was just cloud talk!
 
2020-06-10 4:25:57 PM  
Clearly the work of those like the soldiers who stormed Normandy beach.

Brave men all.

/s
 
2020-06-10 4:26:01 PM  
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2020-06-10 4:26:55 PM  
Firstly, I did not tame the legendary buffalo, it was already tame, I merely shot it.
 
2020-06-10 4:27:01 PM  
The Sopranos on Collective Narcissism & Cultural Appropriation (HQ)
Youtube RrO-irvy2SQ
 
2020-06-10 4:27:47 PM  
That's-a spicy topic!
 
2020-06-10 4:28:04 PM  
"She noted that Oñate was tried and found guilty by his own people of cruelty because of his treatment of native people. "

apparently us Americans are like 400 years behind the Spanish

as I recall they declare the Indians fully human in the early Seventeen hundreds in Madrid
 
2020-06-10 4:29:10 PM  
I'm glad we found a way to drag the well known level headedness of Italians into the current situation.
 
2020-06-10 4:29:40 PM  
Oh, and boston. Double Trouble.
 
2020-06-10 4:31:14 PM  
I blame the Super Mutants.
 
2020-06-10 4:31:59 PM  

WastrelWay: Who? Wasn't he a slaveowner? Or a member of the Confederacy? Whatever, we don't need to know now. He's been erased from history.


They can put his sorry nine-year-old-sex-slave selling ass in a museum.  With a big description of what a big ol' honking piece of sh*t he was.
 
2020-06-10 4:32:30 PM  

WastrelWay: Who? Wasn't he a slaveowner? Or a member of the Confederacy? Whatever, we don't need to know now. He's been erased from history.


If you depend on statues for your history, you're doing it wrong.
 
2020-06-10 4:35:48 PM  

zepillin: "She noted that Oñate was tried and found guilty by his own people of cruelty because of his treatment of native people. "

apparently us Americans are like 400 years behind the Spanish

as I recall they declare the Indians fully human in the early Seventeen hundreds in Madrid


No one expects the Spanish Revision!
 
2020-06-10 4:37:10 PM  

Madman drummers bummers: I blame the Super Mutants.


YOU HAD YOUR TIME, HOO-MAN!
 
2020-06-10 4:37:57 PM  

WastrelWay: Who? Wasn't he a slaveowner? Or a member of the Confederacy? Whatever, we don't need to know now. He's been erased from history.


Ironic to hear that from someone who is utterly ignorant.

People who know history know Columbus's rule in the Caribean was as bad as anything committed by the Nazis or the US on native North Americans..
 
2020-06-10 4:38:53 PM  
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2020-06-10 4:38:56 PM  
You all now hear The Simpson's intro.

/you're welcome
//yes, even Lisa's solo
///that you're making up right now
 
2020-06-10 4:40:12 PM  
Columbus kidnapped a Native American and took her back to Spain. During the voyage back he regularly raped her.

This is not an Urban Myth. It's in his diary.

He was a despicable man.
 
2020-06-10 4:41:30 PM  
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/different statue but whatever.
 
2020-06-10 4:41:50 PM  
Clearly, this person was not perfect, and so we must obliterate him from history.

I'm pretty sure someone would say "those who cannot remember the past are concerned to repeat it", but since we've erased all those inconvenient humans from history, I must have just coined the saying.
 
2020-06-10 4:43:11 PM  

WastrelWay: Who? Wasn't he a slaveowner?


Yes.  Not just an owner, but a slave trader.


Personally, I like statues of people because of the artistic and industrial capability to create them.  I can't carve a model or pour metal to create a cast from a mold, and I appreciate the difficulty of those things.

I'm OK with them being taken down, but it would be a shame for them to be destroyed.  Put them in a museum, where the vast majority will forget who they are, but admire the artists and craftsmen who could create them.

I'm also OK if people want to do something really fun with them, like hang them in a vat of urine.

These statues of historic figures, whether you like the subject or not, are art.  Some art is specifically meant to piss people off, and that's OK with me.
 
2020-06-10 4:44:01 PM  
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2020-06-10 4:44:39 PM  
Let's move Columbus Day to coincide with Canadian Thanksgiving (which it happens to for 2020) and rename it Indigenous Peoples' Day because fark Columbus.
 
2020-06-10 4:44:45 PM  

WastrelWay: Who? Wasn't he a slaveowner? Or a member of the Confederacy? Whatever, we don't need to know now. He's been erased from history.


He's a dude celebrated in the US, even though he never stepped foot in the place.

Also, he was pretty much an asshole.
 
2020-06-10 4:45:24 PM  

Dork Gently: Clearly, this person was not perfect, and so we must obliterate him from history.

I'm pretty sure someone would say "those who cannot remember the past are concerned to repeat it", but since we've erased all those inconvenient humans from history, I must have just coined the saying.


I meant "condemned to repeat it", but as I am creating new quotes here, I suppose it doesn't matter.
 
2020-06-10 4:46:09 PM  

Dork Gently: Clearly, this person was not perfect, and so we must obliterate him from history.

I'm pretty sure someone would say "those who cannot remember the past are concerned to repeat it", but since we've erased all those inconvenient humans from history, I must have just coined the saying.


What?  There is a difference between remembering someone and celebrating them.  We don't build statues of Hitler and we still remember who he was.
 
2020-06-10 4:46:18 PM  

New Rising Sun: zepillin: "She noted that Oñate was tried and found guilty by his own people of cruelty because of his treatment of native people. "

apparently us Americans are like 400 years behind the Spanish

as I recall they declare the Indians fully human in the early Seventeen hundreds in Madrid

No one expects the Spanish Revision!


I might have overshot that by a couple of hundred years

'Are These Not Also Men?': The Indians' Humanity and Capacity for Spanish Civilisation
 
2020-06-10 4:46:59 PM  
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2020-06-10 4:48:15 PM  

Dork Gently: Clearly, this person was not perfect, and so we must obliterate him from history.

I'm pretty sure someone would say "those who cannot remember the past are concerned to repeat it", but since we've erased all those inconvenient humans from history, I must have just coined the saying.


I think we can remember someone without erecting a statue depicting them in the middle of a town square.

I'm pretty sure most of us remember that Hitler fellow, and there are no statues that I know of in any cites in the US.
 
2020-06-10 4:49:06 PM  

Dork Gently: Clearly, this person was not perfect, and so we must obliterate him from history.

I'm pretty sure someone would say "those who cannot remember the past are concerned to repeat it", but since we've erased all those inconvenient humans from history, I must have just coined the saying.


Not perfect?  Bill the sheep farker wasn't perfect.  This is Columbus.
 
2020-06-10 4:50:21 PM  

zepillin: I might have overshot that by a couple of hundred years


I'm pretty sure they made an official stance in the 1700s but I can't find it I'm going back to Destiny 2
 
2020-06-10 4:50:50 PM  
Well, I see the usual crowd is here to rapidly satisfy Godwin's Law, and its corollary about losing the argument.
 
2020-06-10 4:50:54 PM  

WastrelWay: Who? Wasn't he a slaveowner? Or a member of the Confederacy? Whatever, we don't need to know now. He's been erased from history.


Which is why the Germans have never heard of a man named Hitler....

No one learns any meaningful history from farking statues.
 
2020-06-10 4:51:49 PM  
I like this new season didn't care for the last one much
 
2020-06-10 4:53:51 PM  

zepillin: New Rising Sun: zepillin: "She noted that Oñate was tried and found guilty by his own people of cruelty because of his treatment of native people. "

apparently us Americans are like 400 years behind the Spanish

as I recall they declare the Indians fully human in the early Seventeen hundreds in Madrid

No one expects the Spanish Revision!

I might have overshot that by a couple of hundred years

'Are These Not Also Men?': The Indians' Humanity and Capacity for Spanish Civilisation


Virtually no European ever seriously doubted the humanity of Indians or Africans or the shared descent from Adam and Eve, which raises a lot of uncomfortable questions as the claim that they believed otherwise in some ways absolves them because of "different times" nonsense.
 
2020-06-10 4:54:24 PM  
So, conservatives don't like when people hold up George Floyd as a martyr, since he had a criminal record.

But don't touch their confederate traitor statues, or monuments to genocidal dickwads.
 
2020-06-10 4:54:27 PM  

Dork Gently: Clearly, this person was not perfect, and so we must obliterate him from history.

I'm pretty sure someone would say "those who cannot remember the past are concerned to repeat it", but since we've erased all those inconvenient humans from history, I must have just coined the saying.


he was an a******

some of the Conquistadors are actually pretty cool

and some of their Chronicler's were empathetic and highly accurate
 
2020-06-10 4:55:18 PM  

Somacandra: This must the work of the evil Hans Sprungfeld, the murderous pirate!


A pirate?!?   Well, that's hardly the kind of person we wish to associate with at Long John Silvers!
 
2020-06-10 4:55:33 PM  

Dork Gently: Well, I see the usual crowd is here to rapidly satisfy Godwin's Law, and its corollary about losing the argument.


"Haw, haw, stupid Libs bring up Nazis when the subject is genocide. Libs are so stupid. Haw haw!"
 
2020-06-10 4:55:45 PM  

Myria: Let's move Columbus Day to coincide with Canadian Thanksgiving (which it happens to for 2020) and rename it Indigenous Peoples' Day because fark Columbus.


Kill Columbus Day, make Election Day a paid federal holiday. I don't care what grumpy old whitewashers think, Columbus was a monster.
 
2020-06-10 4:56:50 PM  
"eiger: Virtually no "southern" European ever seriously doubted

FTFU


hell  Americans didn't consider them human until the 1800s Maybe

and they weren't Spanish or Italian
 
2020-06-10 5:00:25 PM  
Now the bosque Shepherds might thought they were okay

and the approximately one-third of the original immigrants who went native and kept being driven further and further west

thought they were cool and they were hanging out with them marrying them even
 
2020-06-10 5:02:18 PM  

eiger: Virtually no European ever seriously doubted the humanity of Indians or Africans


This is an attempt at sarcasm, right?
 
2020-06-10 5:02:39 PM  

Dork Gently: Clearly, this person was not perfect, and so we must obliterate him from history.

I'm pretty sure someone would say "those who cannot remember the past are concerned to repeat it", but since we've erased all those inconvenient humans from history, I must have just coined the saying.


The past gets repeated continuously by modern day bad people. You want under-age sex slavery? Happens all the time in shiathole countries. Happens in this shiathole country. Epstein was a great example. He was murdered and all the shiat he did was swept under the goddamn carpet. Our goddamn pos in chief has been credibly accused of raping a teen girl, not to mention the skeevy locker room behavior with the teen models. Seems like the assholes really do learn from history.
 
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