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(Poynter Institute)   And the hits keep coming: A glass shortage could be a huge problem for distributing a COVID-19 vaccine   (poynter.org) divider line
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2020-06-08 8:35:12 PM  
How can we make a lot of glass very quickly?
 
2020-06-08 8:36:17 PM  
Why didn't they realize that they were going to run out of food in the winter?

This is the question the children of survivors of the American Perdition will be asking a hundred years from now.
 
2020-06-08 8:38:24 PM  
Good lord, we've run out of good sand!
 
2020-06-08 8:39:47 PM  
Well this is weird.  The city in which I reside has for years had recycling that has included plastics, aluminum and glass.  Two months ago, we received notice that glass would no longer be accepted for recycling due to "difficult economic realities."  Aluminum cans, plastic and whatnot still recyclable.  Not glass.  WTF ?
 
2020-06-08 8:40:27 PM  
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Inconsolable
 
2020-06-08 8:40:38 PM  
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get in line, Private.
 
2020-06-08 8:41:20 PM  
There are 7 BILLION of us, FFS, and we can't make some glass?
 
2020-06-08 8:41:24 PM  

bd1709h9t: Well this is weird.  The city in which I reside has for years had recycling that has included plastics, aluminum and glass.  Two months ago, we received notice that glass would no longer be accepted for recycling due to "difficult economic realities."  Aluminum cans, plastic and whatnot still recyclable.  Not glass.  WTF ?


It's not as cost effective to recycle glass
 
2020-06-08 8:41:51 PM  
So the wealthy countries will get all the vaccines, got it.

Not worried about glass up here, we drink a lot of bottled beer.
 
2020-06-08 8:42:25 PM  
"The challenge is not so much to make the vaccine itself, it's to fill vials," said Pascal Soriot, CEO of AstraZeneca

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2020-06-08 8:42:35 PM  
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2020-06-08 8:44:02 PM  

AcneVulgaris: There are 7 BILLION of us, FFS, and we can't make some glass?


The manufacturing capacity to make 2 billion single dose vials isn't there.

Fortunately the 'scienticians' remembered that you can use containers that hold 5, 10, 25, 100, or even thousands of doses, making this a non-issue
 
2020-06-08 8:44:19 PM  
Vaccine?
 
2020-06-08 8:45:07 PM  

Salmon: Not worried about glass up here, we drink a lot of bottled beer.


But what will you do when you have to choose between beer or a vaccine?
 
2020-06-08 8:45:09 PM  
I know a guy who can help with that (nsfw audio).

Trailer Park Boys - Ray's Liquor-Lanche
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2020-06-08 8:45:40 PM  

solokumba: Vaccine?


Just give me autism and be done with it!11!!!
 
2020-06-08 8:47:30 PM  
I mentioned this to dad when I first saw it in my news feed a while ago and got ever the engineer's response: "why can't they use plastic?"
 
2020-06-08 8:48:47 PM  

albuquerquehalsey: [media.gettyimages.com image 561x612]

get in line, Private.


I remember those. They -really- sucked.
 
2020-06-08 8:50:10 PM  
Whiny shiats will take every oppoturnity to whine some more
 
2020-06-08 8:50:29 PM  

Tom Marvolo Bombadil: Salmon: Not worried about glass up here, we drink a lot of bottled beer.

But what will you do when you have to choose between beer or a vaccine?


Kobayashi Maru!
 
2020-06-08 8:50:40 PM  
I warned them!!
I told them - watch the glass! Don't get short on the glass!!
But did they listen?
Nooooooooooo!!!!

/Plastic man, myself
 
2020-06-08 8:51:41 PM  

bd1709h9t: Well this is weird.  The city in which I reside has for years had recycling that has included plastics, aluminum and glass.  Two months ago, we received notice that glass would no longer be accepted for recycling due to "difficult economic realities."  Aluminum cans, plastic and whatnot still recyclable.  Not glass.  WTF ?


Glass is just melted sand.  There really isn't much of an energy benefit to reusing glass vs sand (as opposed to mining tons of earth to get a pound of aluminum).
Glass is heavy, so it is more expensive to ship than to just build a glass plant next to where sand comes from.
There isn't a great way to sort clear glass from colored glass, so it is easily contaminated.
 
2020-06-08 8:52:47 PM  

El Trolo: How can we make a lot of glass very quickly?


Berkley springs, wv.

Oh and you can bet there are other ways if getting it in you
 
2020-06-08 8:53:35 PM  

El Trolo: How can we make a lot of glass very quickly?


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2020-06-08 8:54:51 PM  

Dr. DJ Duckhunt: solokumba: Vaccine?

Just give me autism and be done with it!11!!!


Problem: we turn into a nation of Sheldon Coopers.
 
2020-06-08 8:56:01 PM  

Salmon: Tom Marvolo Bombadil: Salmon: Not worried about glass up here, we drink a lot of bottled beer.

But what will you do when you have to choose between beer or a vaccine?

Kobayashi Maru!


Kirk gets his vaccine in a beer, but Spock dies of radiation inside a brewery vat.
 
2020-06-08 8:56:08 PM  

erik-k: I mentioned this to dad when I first saw it in my news feed a while ago and got ever the engineer's response: "why can't they use plastic?"


Another approach would be to send out the first batch, then collect the empties and re-fill them as needed. If they could do it for milk bottles a hundred years ago, they can figure out a way to do it for vaccines in 2020. Put a $10 deposit on each bottle if people need an incentive beyond saving lives.
 
2020-06-08 8:59:13 PM  

Ivo Shandor: erik-k: I mentioned this to dad when I first saw it in my news feed a while ago and got ever the engineer's response: "why can't they use plastic?"

Another approach would be to send out the first batch, then collect the empties and re-fill them as needed. If they could do it for milk bottles a hundred years ago, they can figure out a way to do it for vaccines in 2020. Put a $10 deposit on each bottle if people need an incentive beyond saving lives.


I suspect there is a giant raft of sterility issues with that particular plan.

Crap ike this is generally treated in a 'clean room' manner.
 
2020-06-08 9:02:07 PM  
Not to worry farkers. The odds on a vaccine this year... approach zero as  a limit.

Now, EFFECTIVE TREATMENT, on the other hand, is a high probability.
 
2020-06-08 9:04:07 PM  
Glass? Who gives a shit about glass?
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2020-06-08 9:04:32 PM  

GrogSmash: Ivo Shandor: erik-k: I mentioned this to dad when I first saw it in my news feed a while ago and got ever the engineer's response: "why can't they use plastic?"

Another approach would be to send out the first batch, then collect the empties and re-fill them as needed. If they could do it for milk bottles a hundred years ago, they can figure out a way to do it for vaccines in 2020. Put a $10 deposit on each bottle if people need an incentive beyond saving lives.

I suspect there is a giant raft of sterility issues with that particular plan.

Crap ike this is generally treated in a 'clean room' manner.


Glass can be heated to a temperature which will take care of any biological contamination, and/or washed with chemicals to accomplish the same goal.
 
2020-06-08 9:05:59 PM  

El Trolo: How can we make a lot of glass very quickly?


Well, it DOES start with an onerous healthcare system ironically....
 
2020-06-08 9:06:48 PM  

Ivo Shandor: GrogSmash: Ivo Shandor: erik-k: I mentioned this to dad when I first saw it in my news feed a while ago and got ever the engineer's response: "why can't they use plastic?"

Another approach would be to send out the first batch, then collect the empties and re-fill them as needed. If they could do it for milk bottles a hundred years ago, they can figure out a way to do it for vaccines in 2020. Put a $10 deposit on each bottle if people need an incentive beyond saving lives.

I suspect there is a giant raft of sterility issues with that particular plan.

Crap ike this is generally treated in a 'clean room' manner.

Glass can be heated to a temperature which will take care of any biological contamination, and/or washed with chemicals to accomplish the same goal.


I know that, you know that.

Tell that to a federal regulator :P. Or the general (read half as smart as a bruised turnip) public.  Reused vials would have its own giant outcry.
 
2020-06-08 9:07:48 PM  

synithium: Good lord, we've run out of good sand!


How? HOW??
 
2020-06-08 9:08:36 PM  
*looks furtively at all the beer bottles in my recycle bin*

Sorry. My bad.
 
2020-06-08 9:09:33 PM  

Dr. DJ Duckhunt: [media.comicbook.com image 640x320]
Inconsolable


ya know, given all the shows and movies and programs out there, I did miss the 'sequel' to that, and given how farking evil this world is today, the ending of unbreakable was a hopeful one, and I am terrified to watch the newest movie since it might not have a good "happy" ending with a positive resolution like unbreakable had. So tell me guys, did the follow up movie turn dark or did it have any good guys in it at all anywhere?
 
2020-06-08 9:09:55 PM  
I have some soda bottles they can have for a nickel a pop.
 
2020-06-08 9:09:59 PM  

El Trolo: How can we make a lot of glass very quickly?


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2020-06-08 9:11:15 PM  
 
2020-06-08 9:13:58 PM  

albuquerquehalsey: Gyrfalcon: synithium: Good lord, we've run out of good sand!

How? HOW??

Vince Beiser: "So the sand that we use, is what you call 'marine sand.' It's the sand that you find at the bottom of rivers, and on beaches and at the bottom of lakes and oceans." I know what you're thinking, and no, we can't use sand from the desert. Wind erosion makes the grains too round for most purposes. We need angular sand that interlocks like pieces to a puzzle. Like the sand generated from mountain rocks, pelted by rain, wind, and rivers for over 25 thousand years.


We need to start breeding more parrotfish.
 
2020-06-08 9:14:06 PM  
Corning's busy. Sorry.

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Gorilla out front shoulda told ya.
 
2020-06-08 9:17:19 PM  
Other than enraged people, morons and sickness, is there ANYTHING we have in ample smounts?
 
2020-06-08 9:19:04 PM  

Smirky the Wonder Chimp: Other than enraged people, morons and sickness, is there ANYTHING we have in ample smounts?


Assholes
 
2020-06-08 9:22:28 PM  

Ivo Shandor: albuquerquehalsey: Gyrfalcon: synithium: Good lord, we've run out of good sand!

How? HOW??

Vince Beiser: "So the sand that we use, is what you call 'marine sand.' It's the sand that you find at the bottom of rivers, and on beaches and at the bottom of lakes and oceans." I know what you're thinking, and no, we can't use sand from the desert. Wind erosion makes the grains too round for most purposes. We need angular sand that interlocks like pieces to a puzzle. Like the sand generated from mountain rocks, pelted by rain, wind, and rivers for over 25 thousand years.

We need to start breeding more parrotfish.


Some day I'll teach you about the difference between carbonates and silica.
 
2020-06-08 9:24:50 PM  
dimebag the vaccine sure there is no lack of those.
 
2020-06-08 9:27:49 PM  

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For years I've warned that people might describe Cassandra as a fear monger irather than a prophetess telling people the actual truth, but alas, no one listened.
 
2020-06-08 9:28:17 PM  

Dinodork: Some day I'll teach you about the difference between carbonates and silica.


So feed the parrotfish some hexactinellid sponges.
 
2020-06-08 9:29:26 PM  

Ivo Shandor: erik-k: I mentioned this to dad when I first saw it in my news feed a while ago and got ever the engineer's response: "why can't they use plastic?"

Another approach would be to send out the first batch, then collect the empties and re-fill them as needed. If they could do it for milk bottles a hundred years ago, they can figure out a way to do it for vaccines in 2020. Put a $10 deposit on each bottle if people need an incentive beyond saving lives.


This. If you get enough plates spinning and with a little overcapacity you could have a constant stream of bottles coming in and going out.
 
2020-06-08 9:31:48 PM  

albuquerquehalsey: [media.gettyimages.com image 561x612]

get in line, Private.


Yeah, which is worse, COVID-19 or hepatitis from the guy at the head of the line?
 
2020-06-08 9:31:58 PM  
Uhhh just tell the Coca Cola Company thy can't use glass for making bottles for the rest of the year. There is hardly a shortage of glass, there is just a really stupid misdirection of glass.
 
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