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(Phys Org2)   Mankind has been battling mosquitoes for centuries, and it turns out their secret weakness is...Perlite?   (phys.org) divider line
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TWX [TotalFark]
2020-06-06 10:32:40 AM  
This is actually pretty cool.  Insecticides that cause fatal dehydration of only the smallest insects are already commonplace, but most still use chemicals.  If they've found techniques that work without the use of those chemicals then that could be good news.

My only conern would be along the lines of the concerns that asbestos poses, especially if homes are retreated every few months for years on end.
 
2020-06-06 10:38:38 AM  

TWX: This is actually pretty cool.  Insecticides that cause fatal dehydration of only the smallest insects are already commonplace, but most still use chemicals.  If they've found techniques that work without the use of those chemicals then that could be good news.

My only conern would be along the lines of the concerns that asbestos poses, especially if homes are retreated every few months for years on end.


Yea, I'm not sure airborne volcanic glass particles is gonna be that great for lungs
 
2020-06-06 11:03:25 AM  
Fluoride in water isn't cool, but a mosquito truck giving you asthma is a ok?
 
2020-06-06 11:15:30 AM  
Just wait until the mosquitoes discover steel cages, thumb tacks, barb wire and folding steel chairs as Mankind has real issues with those.
 
2020-06-06 12:01:19 PM  

HighlanderRPI: TWX: This is actually pretty cool.  Insecticides that cause fatal dehydration of only the smallest insects are already commonplace, but most still use chemicals.  If they've found techniques that work without the use of those chemicals then that could be good news.

My only conern would be along the lines of the concerns that asbestos poses, especially if homes are retreated every few months for years on end.

Yea, I'm not sure airborne volcanic glass particles is gonna be that great for lungs


All of this. Came here to say all of this. Glad to see you brilliant motherfarkers are already on the job. :)
 
2020-06-06 12:14:24 PM  

HighlanderRPI: TWX: This is actually pretty cool.  Insecticides that cause fatal dehydration of only the smallest insects are already commonplace, but most still use chemicals.  If they've found techniques that work without the use of those chemicals then that could be good news.

My only conern would be along the lines of the concerns that asbestos poses, especially if homes are retreated every few months for years on end.

Yea, I'm not sure airborne volcanic glass particles is gonna be that great for lungs


We'd have to wear masks forever.
 
2020-06-06 1:25:24 PM  
Just the other day I was thinking it would be nice to coat the place in a fresh layer of perlite.
 
2020-06-06 2:24:00 PM  

HighlanderRPI: TWX: This is actually pretty cool.  Insecticides that cause fatal dehydration of only the smallest insects are already commonplace, but most still use chemicals.  If they've found techniques that work without the use of those chemicals then that could be good news.

My only conern would be along the lines of the concerns that asbestos poses, especially if homes are retreated every few months for years on end.

Yea, I'm not sure airborne volcanic glass particles is gonna be that great for lungs


CSB: when I was around 12 or 13, we had a small flea problem in our house. My dad thought it would be a great idea to spray the place with malathion one day. I came home from school and decided to take a nap on a loveseat we had. It felt a bit damp but it was also the beginning of December and it was under a window, so I just figured the room as a bit chilly is all. Yeah, not so much. After I woke up I had a fever, chills, shakes,etc. The only thing the doctor told them was to pump a GNC-worth of B-12 in me until the symptoms passed. A few days after it started, we were at some electronics store that isn't around anymore (I forget the name but think like Fry's or Circuit City) and my mom asked what I wanted for Christmas. my reply was "Not to die?"
 
2020-06-06 3:03:51 PM  
The ol' lung cancer instead of malaria switcharoo, eh?
I'm not sure if that is a good trade.
 
2020-06-06 3:17:12 PM  
fine powdered silica... what could go wrong?

/diatomaceous earth, also a fine silica powder, was supposed to kill by dehydration ants and other insects.  The fire ants I tried some on did not seem particularly disturbed
 
2020-06-06 3:18:11 PM  
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2020-06-06 3:29:59 PM  
That explains why my dwarves never have a pest problem. Well, that and 2 Cat.
 
2020-06-06 3:31:39 PM  
Um, why not use diatomaceous earth? No volcanic glass nightmare, same effect. No chemicals, you can eat the damn stuff it you want, and it is already proven and marketed to dehydrate pest insects.

Only thing you miss is I guess the static cling effect to walls.  In fact, I just used my giant bag of DE to get rid of ants in the side panel of my car with a compressed air assist to aerosolize it, so I guess you could just have a spritzer with it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diatoma​c​eous_earth
 
2020-06-06 3:31:58 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: fine powdered silica... what could go wrong?

/diatomaceous earth, also a fine silica powder, was supposed to kill by dehydration ants and other insects.  The fire ants I tried some on did not seem particularly disturbed


I've used diatomaceous before and it worked great. Was it straight diatomaceous or mixed in some tasty gel? They aren't going to try eating it by itself.
 
2020-06-06 3:50:38 PM  

isamudyson: Just wait until the mosquitoes discover steel cages, thumb tacks, barb wire and folding steel chairs as Mankind has real issues with those.


You forgot Legos
 
2020-06-06 3:53:39 PM  
Fast forward to millions of people dead and trillions of lawsuits because people's lungs were destroyed by spraying fine shards of glass in the air.

This is a tremendously stupid idea.
 
2020-06-06 3:53:46 PM  
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2020-06-06 3:55:34 PM  

Outlawtsar: Um, why not use diatomaceous earth? No volcanic glass nightmare, same effect. No chemicals, you can eat the damn stuff it you want, and it is already proven and marketed to dehydrate pest insects.

Only thing you miss is I guess the static cling effect to walls.  In fact, I just used my giant bag of DE to get rid of ants in the side panel of my car with a compressed air assist to aerosolize it, so I guess you could just have a spritzer with it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diatomac​eous_earth


Even the food grade version isn't healthy to inhale.
 
2020-06-06 3:57:40 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: /diatomaceous earth, also a fine silica powder, was supposed to kill by dehydration ants and other insects.  The fire ants I tried some on did not seem particularly disturbed


In my experience, diatomaceous earth works great.  Takes a while though.  They have to walk through it, and it gets all in the little joints in their exoskeletons and rips them open, and then they dehydrate through the open wounds.  They'll also end up unintentionally carrying it back to the the nest and spreading it around there.

Also, it's a bunch of old jagged diatom cell walls.

Outlawtsar: Um, why not use diatomaceous earth? No volcanic glass nightmare, same effect. No chemicals, you can eat the damn stuff it you want, and it is already proven and marketed to dehydrate pest insects.

Only thing you miss is I guess the static cling effect to walls.  In fact, I just used my giant bag of DE to get rid of ants in the side panel of my car with a compressed air assist to aerosolize it, so I guess you could just have a spritzer with it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diatomac​eous_earth


There is a big problem with it though, and probably with this volcanic glass stuff too.  If you breathe it in, it lodges in the lungs, and then the lungs form a nodule around it.  Over prolonged exposure, these nodules build up.  Nasty disease, no cure, aside from a lung transplant, I suppose.
 
2020-06-06 4:06:07 PM  

MindStalker: Vlad_the_Inaner: fine powdered silica... what could go wrong?

/diatomaceous earth, also a fine silica powder, was supposed to kill by dehydration ants and other insects.  The fire ants I tried some on did not seem particularly disturbed

I've used diatomaceous before and it worked great. Was it straight diatomaceous or mixed in some tasty gel? They aren't going to try eating it by itself.


It was just dusted around.  Supposedly it is supposed into to their joints like caltropes and dehydrates them from there

/people say the same sort of stuff about use for bedbugs, lucky I never had any to even need to experiment on
 
2020-06-06 4:11:08 PM  
Vlad_the_Inaner:
It was just dusted around.  Supposedly it is supposed into to their joints like caltropes and dehydrates them from there

/people say the same sort of stuff about use for bedbugs, lucky I never had any to even need to experiment on


If you want to get rid of ants and stuff, don't just dust it around, use like a cup or two of it.  Pour it on/around their nest, or if you don't know where they're coming from, on their trails.  Needs to be like a pile that they have to climb through.
 
2020-06-06 4:59:26 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: /diatomaceous earth, also a fine silica powder, was supposed to kill by dehydration ants and other insects.  The fire ants I tried some on did not seem particularly disturbed


You must fight fire with fire.

/I've never tried diotemaceous earth on anything as hearty or tenacious as fire ants, but for the tamer varieties I've found it quite effective as a barrier.  I don't find many corpses but they generally seem to avoid crossing it.
 
2020-06-06 5:29:29 PM  
How quickly will mosquitoes evolve to cope with this?
 
2020-06-06 6:12:22 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: fine powdered silica... what could go wrong?

/diatomaceous earth, also a fine silica powder, was supposed to kill by dehydration ants and other insects.  The fire ants I tried some on did not seem particularly disturbed


I have used diatomaceous earth to kill insects. It works wonderfully. You just have to sprinkle it in an area they travel, such as the baseboards where you see them crawling in and out. It has completely eradicated ants from my house, and they can never return. Poison can't do that.

It isn't bait they eat, it's more like tiny, tiny, caltrops. Under a microscope, diatomaceous earth is very sharp and jagged. That is the same principle being used here with the volcanic glass spray, they just found a way to make it adhere to a vertical surface.
 
2020-06-06 6:27:03 PM  
Mosquitoes and all other parasitic insects that plague mankind need to die. Violently. I mean, I want to hear their little screams as they suffer torment at the hands of humans. Die. DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE.
 
2020-06-06 6:36:36 PM  

LrdPhoenix: Vlad_the_Inaner:
It was just dusted around.  Supposedly it is supposed into to their joints like caltropes and dehydrates them from there

/people say the same sort of stuff about use for bedbugs, lucky I never had any to even need to experiment on

If you want to get rid of ants and stuff, don't just dust it around, use like a cup or two of it.  Pour it on/around their nest, or if you don't know where they're coming from, on their trails.  Needs to be like a pile that they have to climb through.


you can buy diatomaceous earth by the 50lb bag at a feed store for usually the same price as 500g in the hardware store ($20).

A border about 1/2" thick and 4" wide around your garden will keep out all snails and slugs.
 
2020-06-06 7:13:19 PM  
Mosquitoes: kill them all!

/let God sort it out
 
2020-06-06 8:54:30 PM  
Silicosis is the disease caused by inhaling crystalline silica. Perlite is largely composed of silicon dioxide. Spraying this is some kind of death wish.
 
2020-06-06 9:08:03 PM  

Chagrin: Silicosis is the disease caused by inhaling crystalline silica. Perlite is largely composed of silicon dioxide. Spraying this is some kind of death wish.


I think you could probably rub your hands on the walls and hold them to your mouth for an hour every day for a year and not get sick.

The guy doing the initial spraying, yes, let's hope he wears a mask.
 
2020-06-06 11:08:57 PM  

Puglio: Chagrin: Silicosis is the disease caused by inhaling crystalline silica. Perlite is largely composed of silicon dioxide. Spraying this is some kind of death wish.

I think you could probably rub your hands on the walls and hold them to your mouth for an hour every day for a year and not get sick.

The guy doing the initial spraying, yes, let's hope he wears a mask.


Eh, this stuff will slough off the walls over time and into the air.  They already acknowledge that one spraying has a limited time lifespan of usefulness, and that means that it has to go somewhere, especially considering that it's not some chemical that can just decompose, and I can guarantee you that it's not all stuck to mosquitoes.
 
2020-06-06 11:57:10 PM  

LrdPhoenix: Puglio: Chagrin: Silicosis is the disease caused by inhaling crystalline silica. Perlite is largely composed of silicon dioxide. Spraying this is some kind of death wish.

I think you could probably rub your hands on the walls and hold them to your mouth for an hour every day for a year and not get sick.

The guy doing the initial spraying, yes, let's hope he wears a mask.

Eh, this stuff will slough off the walls over time and into the air.  They already acknowledge that one spraying has a limited time lifespan of usefulness, and that means that it has to go somewhere, especially considering that it's not some chemical that can just decompose, and I can guarantee you that it's not all stuck to mosquitoes.


In Africa, you hope to survive the mosquitoes long enough to die of something fancy like silicosos
 
2020-06-07 2:12:42 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: fine powdered silica... what could go wrong?

/diatomaceous earth, also a fine silica powder, was supposed to kill by dehydration ants and other insects.  The fire ants I tried some on did not seem particularly disturbed


I've used diatomaceous earth for years to control six-legged critters with great success. My only problem with it is it's also effective on eight-legged critters, and I don't want to kill those.
 
2020-06-07 10:29:34 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: MindStalker: Vlad_the_Inaner: fine powdered silica... what could go wrong?

/diatomaceous earth, also a fine silica powder, was supposed to kill by dehydration ants and other insects.  The fire ants I tried some on did not seem particularly disturbed

I've used diatomaceous before and it worked great. Was it straight diatomaceous or mixed in some tasty gel? They aren't going to try eating it by itself.

It was just dusted around.  Supposedly it is supposed into to their joints like caltropes and dehydrates them from there

/people say the same sort of stuff about use for bedbugs, lucky I never had any to even need to experiment on


corn flour
 
2020-06-08 12:08:29 AM  
We used DE out on the ranch, mixed it in with the Minerals we put out for the stock. It does a damn fine job of worming them. We also put it in dust bags near the water troughs and they'd rub on the bags and it helped keep Bot Flys/Grubs* down and we'd dust the Sheep after we sheared, a lot fewer ticks on them after we went to it.

*Fair warning. Do NOT google these, you will be sorry if you do.
 
2020-06-08 12:15:02 AM  
Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoc​oniosis sux
 
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