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(Reuters)   Germany is forcing all its gas stations to provide electric car charging. Some say this is shocking, others say it's fulfilling their destiny   (reuters.com) divider line
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2020-06-04 1:45:55 PM  
Gas stations would be wise to embrace electric vehicles, and make it easy and cheap to use them within the existing system.   Otherwise society will just go around them.

/see also:  Record companies and digital music.
 
2020-06-04 1:47:00 PM  
Of course they are. Germany has a functioning government. We could do the same here but cannot because Republicans.
 
2020-06-04 1:47:32 PM  
So the Germans have figured out that adding high voltage to gas is more efficient?

// ducks
 
2020-06-04 2:34:07 PM  
As of March 2020, Germany had 27,730 electric car charging stations according to BDEW, Germany's association for the energy and water industry.
A similar improvement in fuel efficiency of gasoline powered cars has led to a reduction in the number of petrol stations. According to roadside assistance association ADAC, the number of petrol stations has fallen to 14,118 in 2020 from 40,640 in 1965.



Not a stat I would have expected.
 
2020-06-04 2:34:15 PM  

coronavirus: So the Germans have figured out that adding high voltage to gas is more efficient?

// ducks


This idea has a lot of potential.
 
2020-06-04 2:42:27 PM  
FTA: We know that 97% of the reason why they're not buying electric cars is range anxiety.

I'd like to know a little more about how they define "range anxiety" these days.  Are people worried about how far a vehicle can go on a charge or are they worried about the inconvenience of finding a fast charger if they do need to charge?

I imagine that a major issue in Germany is that many people park their vehicles overnight on the street, so home charging isn't an option.  The government push to install chargers where drivers can access them en route to their destination makes sense.

My home is wired for fast charging (240V/50A plug in the carport), so any BEV with decent range (200+ mi / 320+ km) is more than enough to cover 99% of my in-town driving scenarios.  For the rest, there are enough super chargers in town that I can stop for a quick 50% charge to get me home.  Even for out-of-town road trips, there are now enough super chargers on major routes and fast chargers at hotels that I'm not concerned about running out of juice.

So I am now part of that 3% of buyers who haven't purchased a BEV for another reason.  In my case, I want to replace my current car with the same make and a similar model, just in BEV form.  But that doesn't look like it'll happen until 2025 at the soonest.  There doesn't even appear to be a PHEV version of my car on the road map.  So I am just waiting to see where the market goes before committing.
 
2020-06-04 2:49:37 PM  
3 watts. I'm on it. Come 9n by.
 
2020-06-04 2:50:38 PM  
Or "on," as a person with a phone that's not 5 years old would say.
 
2020-06-04 2:51:11 PM  
They don't have to give away the service for free.  The only real questions are what is the payback and are they willing to risk becoming obsolete in the future.
 
2020-06-04 2:54:45 PM  
US to follow suit in 3,2,1,1,1,1,1.....
 
M-G [TotalFark]
2020-06-04 3:11:37 PM  

This text is now purple: the number of petrol stations has fallen to 14,118 in 2020 from 40,640 in 1965


Probably because new stations tend to be larger and have more pumps.
 
2020-06-04 3:39:08 PM  

studebaker hoch: Gas stations would be wise to embrace electric vehicles, and make it easy and cheap to use them within the existing system.   Otherwise society will just go around them.

/see also:  Record companies and digital music.


Well... I don't think society will ever fully "go around them".  I see many falling back to just basic convenience stores. Places where you can stop for snacks on a road trip, getting milk without having to stop at a full grocery store, etc.

Will there be a significant drop if they don't go electric? For sure.  Maybe even if they do.  Don't need 3 stations/
Convenience stores at every intersection.
 
2020-06-04 3:53:57 PM  

freakdiablo: studebaker hoch: Gas stations would be wise to embrace electric vehicles, and make it easy and cheap to use them within the existing system.   Otherwise society will just go around them.

/see also:  Record companies and digital music.

Well... I don't think society will ever fully "go around them".  I see many falling back to just basic convenience stores. Places where you can stop for snacks on a road trip, getting milk without having to stop at a full grocery store, etc.

Will there be a significant drop if they don't go electric? For sure.  Maybe even if they do.  Don't need 3 stations/
Convenience stores at every intersection.


I still remember back in the '80s when many neighborhood mini-marts in my area ditched their mini stations that had a pump or two.  From what I've read, environmental standards and wholesale fuel prices both made them unprofitable.  So this won't be the first time many will be forced to change.

I imagine that you'll see more of them adding delis or small restaurants so that people can eat while their vehicles charge.  If the Covid effect lingers for a while, I could see EV charging at restaurants as a way to lure people back.
 
2020-06-04 5:04:23 PM  
I'm not going to wait at a gas station for hours to charge my car. This would create a violation of commercial liabilities in American insurance law, as you would be expected to provide parking service to non-customers. Put the chargers at the mall or restaurant, where the facility is expecting customers to spend time. The only people who spend more than a few minutes at a gas station are employees and drug dealers.
 
2020-06-04 9:16:22 PM  
Last summer, we stopped in a one-pump town.  The only gas station had one pump, but two blocks over there was a four-way charging station.

We had planned on having dinner, but both the only restaurant and only bar had both burned down a few days earlier.
 
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