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2020-06-04 11:33:24 AM  
Sorry but can't make much out from that video. Anyone got better?
 
2020-06-04 11:35:30 AM  

stuffy: Sorry but can't make much out from that video. Anyone got better?


Wider angle:
Protester's video shows police officer pushing woman in Fort Lauderdale, crowd reacts
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2020-06-04 11:38:04 AM  

Number 216: Where's Farks resident farking moron to explain to us all the cop was well within his rights and the protester is a career criminal who should've already been imprisoned for life?


3 people smarted that asinine comment.

No matter what you think, 99.9999999% of the US is 100% against what Chauvin did, as well as what this cop did to a peaceful protester.  My sincere apologies if this doesn't fit into your cop hating agenda.
 
2020-06-04 11:39:56 AM  

Z-clipped: Flab: Z-clipped: Number 216: Where's Farks resident farking moron to explain to us all the cop was well within his rights and the protester is a career criminal who should've already been imprisoned for life?

If you're talking about C12, I doubt he'd have much to say in support of this idiot.

OTOH, his relative silence during all of this has not gone unnoticed.

He was pretty vocal against Chauvin at the start, as someone else mentioned upthread.

Yeah, he's almost always willing to call out individual acts, But he will never, under any circumstances, admit that there is a broad systemic problem with police culture that requires major change, and keeping up the pretense that all of these protests are just about Chauvin would be a pretty tall task.


I have actually been interpreting his silence on current events as him trying to do kind of the only thing he can do, which is listen, pay attention, and shut the hell up while things play out.  He said his piece at the outset, made his position clear, responded to any and all questions and criticisms with grace, and then disappeared.

I've been a harsh critic of his for a long time, but this felt flippin' earnest.  I hope (and believe) he's thinking about some things and maybe examining himself while he also examines the institution he worked for.  And given what he said in that thread, I trust that he's doing it from the right head-space, with the right intentions.

Or he just ran away.

But that really wasn't my take-away.

/If he comes back next time something like this happens and appears to have learned nothing, I'll be first in line to give him shiat.
 
2020-06-04 11:45:15 AM  

NotThatGuyAgain: Number 216: Where's Farks resident farking moron to explain to us all the cop was well within his rights and the protester is a career criminal who should've already been imprisoned for life?

3 people smarted that asinine comment.

No matter what you think, 99.9999999% of the US is 100% against what Chauvin did, as well as what this cop did to a peaceful protester.  My sincere apologies if this doesn't fit into your cop hating agenda.


Yup.  This.

I am a well documented cop-hater.

I have not met or heard a single retired cop defend ANY of this shiat.  Attack the protesters, sure, but even that's dialed back compared to yesteryear...

Active police, however, are at a crossroads.  I KNOW that many of them are equally disgusted and ashamed of what happened to George Floyd.  I know many who were disgusted and ashamed by each and every one of these stories, and would openly share with me their knowledge that it was even worse than it appeared.  I know many police who have been very conflicted about this open secret, but who justified continued involvement with the institution in various ways.

But lines have been drawn.  I'm glad women like boldy mcscoldy is serving, for sure, but when this is all said and done, either things FUNDAMENTALLY change or she and everyone like her need to find a new vocation.

At a certain point you have to give up on the pipe dream of convincing the Nazis to stop killing Jews from the inside and just join the resistance.
 
2020-06-04 11:47:50 AM  

BeesNuts: Z-clipped: Flab: Z-clipped: Number 216: Where's Farks resident farking moron to explain to us all the cop was well within his rights and the protester is a career criminal who should've already been imprisoned for life?

If you're talking about C12, I doubt he'd have much to say in support of this idiot.

OTOH, his relative silence during all of this has not gone unnoticed.

He was pretty vocal against Chauvin at the start, as someone else mentioned upthread.

Yeah, he's almost always willing to call out individual acts, But he will never, under any circumstances, admit that there is a broad systemic problem with police culture that requires major change, and keeping up the pretense that all of these protests are just about Chauvin would be a pretty tall task.

I have actually been interpreting his silence on current events as him trying to do kind of the only thing he can do, which is listen, pay attention, and shut the hell up while things play out.  He said his piece at the outset, made his position clear, responded to any and all questions and criticisms with grace, and then disappeared.

I've been a harsh critic of his for a long time, but this felt flippin' earnest.  I hope (and believe) he's thinking about some things and maybe examining himself while he also examines the institution he worked for.  And given what he said in that thread, I trust that he's doing it from the right head-space, with the right intentions.

Or he just ran away.

But that really wasn't my take-away.

/If he comes back next time something like this happens and appears to have learned nothing, I'll be first in line to give him shiat.


Well, that's encouraging.  Thanks.  People are capable of changing their perspective occasionally, so I'll lay off and hope for the best.
 
2020-06-04 11:51:40 AM  
Oh, here's another:  Random quarterly drug tests for all officers, to test for steroids.
 
2020-06-04 11:54:02 AM  

BeesNuts: I have not met or heard a single retired cop defend ANY of this shiat.


You won't see much outright defense of bad actors in this charged atmosphere, but all of the people attempting to raise the issue of looting above the actual reasons for the protests are 100% mounting a defense.  As are the ones painting "rioters" in broad strokes, and denouncing violent protest while downplaying police instigation.

It's all of the exact same right-wing shiat we saw in the 1960s.
 
2020-06-04 11:58:55 AM  

Z-clipped: BeesNuts: Z-clipped: Flab: Z-clipped: Number 216: Where's Farks resident farking moron to explain to us all the cop was well within his rights and the protester is a career criminal who should've already been imprisoned for life?

If you're talking about C12, I doubt he'd have much to say in support of this idiot.

OTOH, his relative silence during all of this has not gone unnoticed.

He was pretty vocal against Chauvin at the start, as someone else mentioned upthread.

Yeah, he's almost always willing to call out individual acts, But he will never, under any circumstances, admit that there is a broad systemic problem with police culture that requires major change, and keeping up the pretense that all of these protests are just about Chauvin would be a pretty tall task.

I have actually been interpreting his silence on current events as him trying to do kind of the only thing he can do, which is listen, pay attention, and shut the hell up while things play out.  He said his piece at the outset, made his position clear, responded to any and all questions and criticisms with grace, and then disappeared.

I've been a harsh critic of his for a long time, but this felt flippin' earnest.  I hope (and believe) he's thinking about some things and maybe examining himself while he also examines the institution he worked for.  And given what he said in that thread, I trust that he's doing it from the right head-space, with the right intentions.

Or he just ran away.

But that really wasn't my take-away.

/If he comes back next time something like this happens and appears to have learned nothing, I'll be first in line to give him shiat.

Well, that's encouraging.  Thanks.  People are capable of changing their perspective occasionally, so I'll lay off and hope for the best.


Here here.  After all, if people can't change their mind, what are we even doing out in the streets?

If chants of "Who do you protect!" can crack the shell of brotherhood that keeps these people from examining what they are doing underneath even one of those riot helmets, it's a victory for the entire movement.

If the "good cops" are forced to stand shoulder to shoulder with cops who gleefully shoot defenseless protesters in the faces with "less lethal" rounds and getting told to just "deal with it while we clean up the streets", maybe they'll start to see the truth.

I like to think that in that individual's case, exposure here on fark to these stories, and the consistency with which the narrative played out, and our insistence on simple things like accountability, justice, and an honest ability for American citizens to trust our police helped set the groundwork for his reaction to this particular story.  I wonder if he'd have reacted the same way 5 years ago, for example.

So there will be some out there who won't see the truth this time either.  But we're setting the groundwork for them to not be able to ignore it NEXT time.

Been seeing a lot of this lately.  And it's encouraging all around.  It reminds me to not write somebody off tomorrow because of something they said today.

/Unless that something was "torture is fine", "the death penalty is necessary", "here's the thing about black people", or "maybe she deserved it."
//Everyone's got standards, after all.
 
2020-06-04 11:59:33 AM  
BeesNuts:  At a certain point you have to give up on the pipe dream of convincing the Nazis to stop killing Jews from the inside and just join the resistance.

I'm sure there are a lot of cops willing to do this, who would be just as happy policing by consent. But if we want them to actually step forward, we need to make it safe for them to do so, and is simply isn't right now because of the prevailing culture they're immersed in.

Anyone seeking to preserve that culture, or the organizational and philosophical status quo that enables it is the enemy we need to be fighting the hardest. That includes most of the union membership and unfortunately most of the higher-ranking officers.
 
2020-06-04 12:04:12 PM  

Z-clipped: BeesNuts:  At a certain point you have to give up on the pipe dream of convincing the Nazis to stop killing Jews from the inside and just join the resistance.

I'm sure there are a lot of cops willing to do this, who would be just as happy policing by consent. But if we want them to actually step forward, we need to make it safe for them to do so, and is simply isn't right now because of the prevailing culture they're immersed in.

Anyone seeking to preserve that culture, or the organizational and philosophical status quo that enables it is the enemy we need to be fighting the hardest. That includes most of the union membership and unfortunately most of the higher-ranking officers.


Can't argue with you there...

What a shiatshow.
 
2020-06-04 12:17:09 PM  

dammit just give me a login: Since this shiat is going on nationwide, is FL tag particularly applicable?


Florida tag overrules all others .. them's the rulez!
 
2020-06-04 12:22:55 PM  
"Cop who shoved kneeling protester relieved of duty"

Phew, that's a relief.  He'll still get paid though, right?
 
2020-06-04 12:25:13 PM  

Tracianne: He had 71 use of force cases on file - and that is just in the 4 years he was with Fort Lauderdale Police.  No telling how many while he was with Florida Highway Patrol.

https://www.local10.com/news/local/202​0/06/03/officer-accused-of-pushing-tee​n-during-protest-has-71-use-of-force-c​ases-on-file/


I can't imagine any other line of work where someone's manager would tolerate an employee who had a written complaint OF ANY SORT filed against them every three weeks.

This is an organization that doesn't have any problem with their employees assaulting people.
 
2020-06-04 12:33:19 PM  

Recoil Therapy: Was this the jerk who already had 79 - seventy nine - excessive force complaints against him in 3-4 years?  If so he needs to be fired (out of a cannon into a pool of sharks) & never work in any form of law enforcement/position of power over others ever again.

One of the nationwide reforms that needs to be pushed through somehow is that there needs to be a mechanism in place to strip people of police powers nationwide for 'x' years ('x' being on a sliding scale from months to lifetime ban).  Otherwise this clown will accept his firing, look contrite for the two minutes that the cameras will be focused on him & then move one county down & get hired on there to go abuse 'their' citizens.


Yes (71 in 3.5 years) but...

Each time he was found not to be violating department policy.

The problem is the department policy that enabled him.
 
2020-06-04 12:38:52 PM  
I wonder if part of the reason Broward County lifted our curfew yesterday instead of Sunday (when it was originally scheduled to run through) is because of all the attention this POS cop was bringing. The public was punished to protect a farking cop with 75 battery complaints on his record. In 3-3 1/2 years ffs.
 
2020-06-04 1:15:19 PM  

Akuinnen: Recoil Therapy: Otherwise this clown will accept his firing, look contrite for the two minutes that the cameras will be focused on him & then move one county down & get hired on there to go abuse 'their' citizens.

Or the Police Union will sue and get the guy back on duty.


With back pay no less.
 
2020-06-04 1:31:40 PM  

thorpe: "Pohorence shoves her out of the way, pushing her to the ground. A fellow officer, Krystle Smith, immediately berates Pohorence and separates him from the protesters, who begin to throw water bottles.
Soon after, witnesses say police responded with tear gas and rubber bullets and concussion grenades, dispersing the crowd."

One asshole cop caused all that.

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That dude is on 'roids.  All cops need to be tested and fired if found with steroids in them
 
2020-06-04 5:00:08 PM  

NotThatGuyAgain: No matter what you think, 99.9999999% of the US is 100% against what Chauvin did, as well as what this cop did to a peaceful protester.


When that 99.999999% is against what any cop does when they abuse the public trust that society puts in them, we'll talk. That list is MUCH LONGER than just one dead human being. That list is what creates the "agenda". you're whining about.
 
2020-06-04 6:38:17 PM  

Z-clipped: Number 216: Where's Farks resident farking moron to explain to us all the cop was well within his rights and the protester is a career criminal who should've already been imprisoned for life?

If you're talking about C12, I doubt he'd have much to say in support of this idiot.

OTOH, his relative silence during all of this has not gone unnoticed.


yeah no shiat directly fark that pig
 
2020-06-04 7:04:43 PM  
Well, getting as many of these thugs into ditch digging has to be the responsibility of every municipality unlike everything that they have done up to now.

I really want the head of the cop telling the old man go be old somewhere else and shoving him to the ground.
 
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