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(Asheville Citizen-Times)   Police in Asheville, NC destroy a city-approved medical station during a protest, stabbing water bottles and spraying supplies so that anyone attempting to give care would be subject to chemical burns   (citizen-times.com) divider line
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2020-06-03 4:03:40 PM  
Destruction of private property with assault and terroristic threats and actions when will the police that engaged in criminal terrorist actions be arrested?
 
2020-06-03 4:07:36 PM  
This is what Trump wants America to be.
 
2020-06-03 4:13:05 PM  
If this was an actual war, their actions would constitute a war crime.
 
2020-06-03 4:25:49 PM  
There's also reports that police are torturing people they arrest on Twitter, such as leaving people locked in rooms for hours, not letting them wash off pepper spray, going without food, etc.
 
2020-06-03 4:33:29 PM  
Gestapo like tactics detected.
 
2020-06-03 4:34:26 PM  
So how is using tear gas in a war considered a war crime, yet police can use it and it's cool for them?
 
2020-06-03 4:34:31 PM  
But but but its only about Chauvin. Give me a break. Theres thousands of cops who should be behind bars.
 
2020-06-03 4:35:21 PM  
And this is Asheville, NC, a hippie liberal oasis in the middle of the Blue Ridge mountains!

/they still love bluegrass music
 
2020-06-03 4:35:28 PM  
The police cause trouble wherever they go.
 
2020-06-03 4:36:02 PM  
If you're doing this, you guys are on the wrong side.....
 
2020-06-03 4:36:07 PM  

Glitchwerks: There's also reports that police are torturing people they arrest on Twitter, such as leaving people locked in rooms for hours, not letting them wash off pepper spray, going without food, etc.


Reports? There's video of police torturing people, smashing stuff, shooting people in the face with smoke grenades, and arresting bystanders (like the store owners they're putatively protecting). Twitter is actually useful in these situations.
 
2020-06-03 4:36:51 PM  
Asheville NC, a super liberal town, go figure.
 
2020-06-03 4:38:06 PM  
$500 fine for littering
 
2020-06-03 4:38:08 PM  

potierrh: If this was an actual war, their actions would constitute a war crime.


Right up there like bombing a hospital or shooting a field medic
 
2020-06-03 4:38:17 PM  
"While the property damage and violence of this is appalling, the real issue here is that black lives are put at risk when access to medical support is destroyed. "

did anyone see more than one black person in those pics?
 
2020-06-03 4:38:39 PM  

eurotrader: Destruction of private property with assault and terroristic threats and actions when will the police that engaged in criminal terrorist actions be arrested?


They won't be. They have made clear that only armed confrontation and complete annihilation will prevent them from brutality and lawlessness, which in their mind means they get to act even more lawless and brutal to 'protect' the rest of us from the insurrection they have made clear is the only possible cure for them.
Its all very nice and circular.
 
2020-06-03 4:38:52 PM  
...I'm sorry, this is too much, I served my time in the military, did my duty to the point of having a mental breakdown and spending time in a psych ward.  If you think this is in any way acceptable get the fark out and never come back.

Call me a coward, call me weak, but I need to not see the news a bit, because I'm having trouble seeing the lows my country can go to.
 
2020-06-03 4:39:28 PM  

Glitchwerks: There's also reports that police are torturing people they arrest on Twitter, such as leaving people locked in rooms for hours, not letting them wash off pepper spray, going without food, etc.


To be fair, that's SSDD for all pigs, in all situations.
Them being civil and humane is the rarity.
Sure it happens but again it's rare

This is what power does to you
 
2020-06-03 4:40:05 PM  
This is years of Republican control.  Years of Republicans saying that laws don't matter for certain people.
 
2020-06-03 4:41:57 PM  

potierrh: If this was an actual war, their actions would constitute a war crime.


But if we discuss treating them - under international rule of law - like war criminals, you will get banned for 'exhorting illegal acts'.
As these threads get shorter with every modmin visit, its clear Fark stands with the police in this one. Its only illegal if you aren't a cop. Everyone else lick boots or face the hammer.
 
2020-06-03 4:42:22 PM  

Theeng: ...I'm sorry, this is too much, I served my time in the military, did my duty to the point of having a mental breakdown and spending time in a psych ward.  If you think this is in any way acceptable get the fark out and never come back.

Call me a coward, call me weak, but I need to not see the news a bit, because I'm having trouble seeing the lows my country can go to.


I hope you have a support network to reach out to.

Peace.
 
2020-06-03 4:45:03 PM  
Why would the city approve a medical station providing supplies to people to be open after the curfew started?

The entire point of the curfew is keeping people off the street.  Having a tent full of supplies making it easier for ppl to be out after curfew doesn't make sense.

They're either full of it about the approval, or somebody at the city is really dumb
 
2020-06-03 4:45:16 PM  
Wow.

I'm supposed to be going up there in a couple of weeks. I may just stay in the woods.
 
2020-06-03 4:47:54 PM  

GrizzlyPouch: Why would the city approve a medical station providing supplies to people to be open after the curfew started?

The entire point of the curfew is keeping people off the street.  Having a tent full of supplies making it easier for ppl to be out after curfew doesn't make sense.

They're either full of it about the approval, or somebody at the city is really dumb


The issue is the police never gave the station an opportunity to take down the station when curfew came. It was the first place they hit.

The station probably was a requirement for the protest permit.
 
2020-06-03 4:50:53 PM  

Another Government Employee: GrizzlyPouch: Why would the city approve a medical station providing supplies to people to be open after the curfew started?

The entire point of the curfew is keeping people off the street.  Having a tent full of supplies making it easier for ppl to be out after curfew doesn't make sense.

They're either full of it about the approval, or somebody at the city is really dumb

The issue is the police never gave the station an opportunity to take down the station when curfew came. It was the first place they hit.

The station probably was a requirement for the protest permit.


The trauma docs had explicit city permission to stay up all night to treat anyone (my guess is that would have included police) injured.
 
2020-06-03 4:52:01 PM  

Another Government Employee: The station probably was a requirement for the protest permit.


it's pronounced "prolley".

and your evidence is prolley not going to hold up in court.
 
2020-06-03 4:52:29 PM  
I guarantee you the first question Dumpy will ask to his handlers before ordering any kind of federal actions anywhere is
"Did they vote for me?" "Why can't we just shoot them with real bullets?"
And that's the deciding factor. He wants to farking kill everyone who didn't vote for him and take revenge upon every perceived enemy. He's that farking sick in the head
 
2020-06-03 4:54:27 PM  

Another Government Employee: GrizzlyPouch: Why would the city approve a medical station providing supplies to people to be open after the curfew started?

The entire point of the curfew is keeping people off the street.  Having a tent full of supplies making it easier for ppl to be out after curfew doesn't make sense.

They're either full of it about the approval, or somebody at the city is really dumb

The issue is the police never gave the station an opportunity to take down the station when curfew came. It was the first place they hit.

The station probably was a requirement for the protest permit.


The curfew started at 8.  If the station was still there at 8 they were breaking the curfew.
 
2020-06-03 4:54:42 PM  
This just in: Cops are pigs....in case you didn't know.
Will wait for cop defenders to defend what the pigs did.
 
2020-06-03 4:55:40 PM  

Theeng: ...I'm sorry, this is too much, I served my time in the military, did my duty to the point of having a mental breakdown and spending time in a psych ward.  If you think this is in any way acceptable get the fark out and never come back.

Call me a coward, call me weak, but I need to not see the news a bit, because I'm having trouble seeing the lows my country can go to.


Nope.  Any man who willingly sacrifices his mental health and body is not a coward.  You may never be able to serve again, but you do have a voice.
 
2020-06-03 4:56:00 PM  
Eventually, the people will start firing back.
 
2020-06-03 4:56:28 PM  

Another Government Employee: Wow.

I'm supposed to be going up there in a couple of weeks. I may just stay in the woods.


You are a farking IDIOT.
 
2020-06-03 4:57:39 PM  
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.citi​z​en-times.com/amp/3134785001

This is an article where the mayor is asking for an explanation from police.

This is a prime example of why better leadership is needed at the local level.

The police work for YOU mayor.  YOU tell them what to do.  YOU set a curfew, and now you're wondering why they enforced it?

If the city approved it, the first thing they should've done was make it explicitly clear to the police it could be there.
 
2020-06-03 4:58:15 PM  

GrizzlyPouch: Another Government Employee: GrizzlyPouch: Why would the city approve a medical station providing supplies to people to be open after the curfew started?

The entire point of the curfew is keeping people off the street.  Having a tent full of supplies making it easier for ppl to be out after curfew doesn't make sense.

They're either full of it about the approval, or somebody at the city is really dumb

The issue is the police never gave the station an opportunity to take down the station when curfew came. It was the first place they hit.

The station probably was a requirement for the protest permit.

The curfew started at 8.  If the station was still there at 8 they were breaking the curfew.


If that's the case then so we're the cops!
 
2020-06-03 4:58:38 PM  

chuggernaught: This is years of Republican control.  Years of Republicans saying that laws don't matter for certain people.


Years of republican control? In Asheville? You are smoking crack.
 
2020-06-03 4:59:24 PM  

FloriduhGuy: Another Government Employee: Wow.

I'm supposed to be going up there in a couple of weeks. I may just stay in the woods.

You are a farking IDIOT.


Sorry. Wrong post
 
2020-06-03 5:01:08 PM  

potierrh: If this was an actual war, their actions would constitute a war crime.


Considering the history of the US prosecuting US military over war crimes, I don't think we should try that strategy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_​M​assacre#Court_martial
 
2020-06-03 5:01:19 PM  

JJRRutgers: And this is Asheville, NC, a hippie liberal oasis in the middle of the Blue Ridge mountains!

/they still love bluegrass music


I guess Asheville could be called a liberal oasis compared to other towns in the area that still have snake handling preachers but it is still pretty right of center compared to any major city.
 
2020-06-03 5:01:21 PM  

What_Would_Jimi_Do: chuggernaught: This is years of Republican control.  Years of Republicans saying that laws don't matter for certain people.

Years of republican control? In Asheville? You are smoking crack.


Over the nation. They see Republicans saying laws don't matter for trump or any of his lackeys.

Justice must be applied equally.
 
2020-06-03 5:03:50 PM  

chuggernaught: They see Republicans saying laws don't matter for trump or any of his lackeys.

Justice must be applied equally.


from where i sit, both parties have the same set of values in this and many other regards.
 
2020-06-03 5:04:34 PM  
It's starting to sound like the tactics used by Communist Russia back in the day of protests and riots in their country -- only they used real bullets and tanks. Same with Communist China. They each wiped out any aid stations, used special billy clubs to womp on anyone in the general area and cracked a lot of skulls and broke a lot of arms.

I remember Tienanmen Square in China. Red Square in Russia.
 
2020-06-03 5:05:23 PM  
Cops are scum.

Any bully with a high school diploma can become a cop. Then you get a bully with a gun and a god complex.

Fark 'em all.
 
2020-06-03 5:09:12 PM  

eurotrader: Destruction of private property with assault and terroristic threats and actions when will the police that engaged in criminal terrorist actions be arrested?


Sounds like we should refer that to the FBI.  They asked for information on anybody fomenting violence, right?
 
2020-06-03 5:10:56 PM  
They present as such an occupying force that they are doing these actions knowing they are being filmed and wont be held repsobile for them.

Running tally of police riots.
Thread by @greg_doucette: To simplify following the criminal justice news of the last 36 hours, I posted a set of 10 links to police brutality videos on Facebook Can'...
 
2020-06-03 5:11:26 PM  

Rik01: It's starting to sound like the tactics used by Communist Russia back in the day of protests and riots in their country -- only they used real bullets and tanks. Same with Communist China. They each wiped out any aid stations, used special billy clubs to womp on anyone in the general area and cracked a lot of skulls and broke a lot of arms.

I remember Tienanmen Square in China. Red Square in Russia.


And you know who you can blame for that?  The city leadership

The city hires the police chief and the police officers, they're not independent mercenaries.

If mayors want police to act a certain way, then they need to tell them what to do.

The city's leadership set the curfew.  It would've been pretty simple to have a meeting between the city council, mayor and police chief.

This is how we're going to handle this curfew, these are the tactics you can use, these are the ones you can't.  Ppl gonna get fired if it's done differently.

You can't blame the police if the city enacts a curfew and the police then enforce it.  It's 100% city leadership
 
2020-06-03 5:11:31 PM  
When can we appeal to the UN for help because our own government is creating a humanitarian crisis?

/i'll go now
 
2020-06-03 5:12:12 PM  

Theeng: ...I'm sorry, this is too much, I served my time in the military, did my duty to the point of having a mental breakdown and spending time in a psych ward.  If you think this is in any way acceptable get the fark out and never come back.

Call me a coward, call me weak, but I need to not see the news a bit, because I'm having trouble seeing the lows my country can go to.


You get a pass from having to stay up to date on this, my friend.  Be well.
 
2020-06-03 5:12:32 PM  

GrizzlyPouch: Another Government Employee: GrizzlyPouch: Why would the city approve a medical station providing supplies to people to be open after the curfew started?

The entire point of the curfew is keeping people off the street.  Having a tent full of supplies making it easier for ppl to be out after curfew doesn't make sense.

They're either full of it about the approval, or somebody at the city is really dumb

The issue is the police never gave the station an opportunity to take down the station when curfew came. It was the first place they hit.

The station probably was a requirement for the protest permit.

The curfew started at 8.  If the station was still there at 8 they were breaking the curfew.


No more breaking the cerfew than the cops were. Both were specifically exempt. Medical and other first responders are like that.
 
2020-06-03 5:14:02 PM  
Police sure are going to great lengths to protect their right to be able to murder with impunity.
 
2020-06-03 5:15:01 PM  

GrizzlyPouch: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.citi​z​en-times.com/amp/3134785001

This is an article where the mayor is asking for an explanation from police.

This is a prime example of why better leadership is needed at the local level.

The police work for YOU mayor.  YOU tell them what to do.  YOU set a curfew, and now you're wondering why they enforced it?

If the city approved it, the first thing they should've done was make it explicitly clear to the police it could be there.


Will you shut the fark up already?  The grownups are talking.
 
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