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(Fark and Schnitt)   This week's podcast: Brooke Binkowski from TruthorFiction.com is back to help us make sense of rumors of outside actors interfering in the nationwide protests. Who are they and what are they trying to do? Brooke has the answer and it's both fascinating and nuanced as hell   (podcasts.apple.com) divider line
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2020-06-03 11:33:39 AM  
Oh look, facts. How quaint.
 
2020-06-03 11:35:45 AM  
"Outside actors interfering with your protest?  Learn how to stop them with this one neat trick!"
 
2020-06-03 11:36:18 AM  
Nuanced?

Well, in that case, you just lost about 95% of Fark. We can only seem to handle bumper-sticker-sized slogans and explanations around here.
 
2020-06-03 11:37:53 AM  
EMERGENCY ALERT EXTREME!

Mrs. Appleton's cat did not come home for supper.

Some deadbeat Dad has not returned his daughter to his ex in Papua-New Guinea. Be extra-vigilant as Papuan-New Guineas might look like a Canadian Inuit.
 
2020-06-03 11:39:14 AM  

brantgoose: EMERGENCY ALERT EXTREME!

Mrs. Appleton's cat did not come home for supper.

Some deadbeat Dad has not returned his daughter to his ex in Papua-New Guinea. Be extra-vigilant as Papuan-New Guineas might look like a Canadian Inuit.


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2020-06-03 11:40:28 AM  

gretzkyscores: Nuanced?

Well, in that case, you just lost about 95% of Fark. We can only seem to handle bumper-sticker-sized slogans and explanations around here.


You forgot twitter screenshots.
 
2020-06-03 11:53:35 AM  
The rioters and looters do not GAF about the protest.
The rioters want to riot and do not believe in peaceful protest in the first place.
The looters are just out to get theirs.  Other than Target their looting has been pretty indiscriminate.
 
2020-06-03 11:55:41 AM  

gretzkyscores: Nuanced?

Well, in that case, you just lost about 95% of Fark. We can only seem to handle bumper-sticker-sized slogans and explanations around here.


Hey, Shiat Happens.
 
2020-06-03 12:01:29 PM  
Is there a tb;dl version of this?
 
2020-06-03 12:03:06 PM  
Is Brooke a national treasure?  Discuss.
 
2020-06-03 12:08:03 PM  

Straight Outta Hate: The rioters and looters do not GAF about the protest.
The rioters want to riot and do not believe in peaceful protest in the first place.
The looters are just out to get theirs.  Other than Target their looting has been pretty indiscriminate.


The burning of police cars and stations seem pretty targeted.
 
2020-06-03 12:10:28 PM  

guestguy: brantgoose: EMERGENCY ALERT EXTREME!

Mrs. Appleton's cat did not come home for supper.

Some deadbeat Dad has not returned his daughter to his ex in Papua-New Guinea. Be extra-vigilant as Papuan-New Guineas might look like a Canadian Inuit.

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This usually works for me.

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2020-06-03 12:10:33 PM  

WDFark think for a second: Straight Outta Hate: The rioters and looters do not GAF about the protest.
The rioters want to riot and do not believe in peaceful protest in the first place.
The looters are just out to get theirs.  Other than Target their looting has been pretty indiscriminate.

The burning of police cars and stations seem pretty targeted.


That's also not looting thought.
 
2020-06-03 12:10:36 PM  

Straight Outta Hate: The rioters and looters do not GAF about the protest.
The rioters want to riot and do not believe in peaceful protest in the first place.
The looters are just out to get theirs.  Other than Target their looting has been pretty indiscriminate.


Isn't Target only a half step up from a dollar store anyway?
 
2020-06-03 12:10:37 PM  
 
2020-06-03 12:11:06 PM  

WDFark think for a second: Straight Outta Hate: The rioters and looters do not GAF about the protest.
The rioters want to riot and do not believe in peaceful protest in the first place.
The looters are just out to get theirs.  Other than Target their looting has been pretty indiscriminate.

The burning of police cars and stations seem pretty targeted.


That is not looting
 
2020-06-03 12:12:50 PM  

rockymountainrider: Straight Outta Hate: The rioters and looters do not GAF about the protest.
The rioters want to riot and do not believe in peaceful protest in the first place.
The looters are just out to get theirs.  Other than Target their looting has been pretty indiscriminate.

Isn't Target only a half step up from a dollar store anyway?


Target supposedly has a Forensic crime lab in Minnesota that they let police use for free.
 
2020-06-03 12:21:53 PM  

rockymountainrider: Straight Outta Hate: The rioters and looters do not GAF about the protest.
The rioters want to riot and do not believe in peaceful protest in the first place.
The looters are just out to get theirs.  Other than Target their looting has been pretty indiscriminate.

Isn't Target only a half step up from a dollar store anyway?


So, like a $1.50 store?
 
2020-06-03 12:25:32 PM  
Whos doing it? I believe there are three basic groups: folks who are pissed off that police still kill black folks and get away with it, people who only want to cause trouble, and finally folks who want a race-war.

There isnt one over-arching group responsible for this chaos.
 
2020-06-03 12:31:14 PM  
It's "their time".

Every hive of scum and villainy knows that they will never get another Trump, er, I mean "chance" if they don't win this for their Dark Lords now. Even McConnell, that old Southern Snapping Turtle is way past his "Use before date". DG No-Goodnik, son of Jeffrey Epstein's patron and trainer, could be out on his duff in a huff and a puff if Trump suspects his loyality for a tick of the tock. Shutting down the economy may have been the right decision to avoid a total full-blown pandemic the size of the 1917-1919 Spanish Flu, but it makes all these shopkeepers and workers vulnerable and all the little Trumpers, Tories and Twats afraid, thus easily influenced by any random bot, zombie, proud boy, angry rapey raper incel, etc.

But I see great progress and hope. Since fascism planted its knee o the neck of black America, hispanics and whites have been coming around to the New Norms really fast. It might indeed be the long-awaited Great Awokening of "liberal" and "mainstream" America. And when the conservatives who call themselves liberals move, the masses may not be far behind. Even the most dyed Tory Blue in the wool "paleos" and "economic" conservatives are beginning to denounce Trump and his motley caitiff crew members.

Trump was elected by a minority against a majority, not even a plurality, just a Republican lock built into the Electoral College. Time to break the padlocks.
 
2020-06-03 12:40:30 PM  
You can't tell the players without a programme. Here's a sketch:

* peaceful demonstrators, angry at injustice and inaction, for various reforms and causes

* aggressive demonstrators, more angry still, some just trouble-makers, some idealogues and purists

* Maoists, Stalinists, pseudo-Trotskyites (True Believer programme rioters)

* rioters for the sake of rioting thrill seekers (nihilists, anomie ridden mostly white youth)

* opportunistic independant programme rioters, out to increase chaos (not necessarily Trump, but like Trump), mostly right wing, not affiliate with any legitimate cause, bullies and gas-lighters, only younger and stronger and braver than the Gas-Lighter in Chief

* shopkeepers trying to stay alive

* opportunist criminals out for a loot and a bit of vandalism

* agents provocateurs from various federal, state and local agencies including many of the other categories

* good cops trying to do their jo

* bad cops trying to do a job of some sort

* bent cops allied with one or more of the above.inluding the arsonists, rioters, looters, activists, True Believers, and the Beast in Chief

* and so on and so forth.

Categories are not water-proof (étanche). They bleed into each other and overlap. You can't tell the players apart without Venn Diagrams.
 
2020-06-03 12:45:27 PM  
Was on a Zoom with homeless shelters this morning.  They had to shut shelters to outside access as people were trying to pay the homeless (with cheap items) to go to the protests.

7 or 8 years ago, unions were hiring homeless ($5) to picket.  The homeless were getting arrested not knowing why they were even there.
 
2020-06-03 12:48:46 PM  
that's right, it's

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2020-06-03 1:06:44 PM  
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2020-06-03 1:07:35 PM  

Straight Outta Hate: rockymountainrider: Straight Outta Hate: The rioters and looters do not GAF about the protest.
The rioters want to riot and do not believe in peaceful protest in the first place.
The looters are just out to get theirs.  Other than Target their looting has been pretty indiscriminate.

Isn't Target only a half step up from a dollar store anyway?

Target supposedly has a Forensic crime lab in Minnesota that they let police use for free.


I thought you were joking, but what do you know?

https://rare.us/rare-life/target-fore​n​sics-lab/
 
2020-06-03 1:13:28 PM  
Binkowski?
She was my favourite character in Monsters Inc.
 
2020-06-03 1:17:41 PM  

SumoJeb: Binkowski?
She was my favourite character in Monsters Inc.


No...I go for George Sanderson. 2319! 2319!

Monsters Inc- 2319 HD
Youtube cUFJ1yVhJ6g
 
2020-06-03 1:24:04 PM  
I think all nuance in human behavior springs from the fact that ten different people will have ten different attitudes and ten different motives and ten different approaches to achieving their goals.
If you think all protesters should act as one, you're an idiot.
If you think everyone going out there is going out there for the same reason/s as everyone else, you're an idiot.
If you think everyone going out there has the same game plan as everyone else, you're an idiot.

This is why it's best to address these issues before it boils over. Once it starts, chaos reigns supreme despite anyone's best intentions. The centre cannot hold,
 
2020-06-03 1:28:51 PM  
Schnitt: (gameshow host voice) Golly who are these wacky terrible people I have to see videos of while I watch the news in my breakfast nook.  They're destroying the things I hold dearly!
 
2020-06-03 1:31:08 PM  
Can I get a transcript? Listening to boring podcasts is not a thing I want to do.
 
2020-06-03 1:35:54 PM  

point09: guestguy: brantgoose: EMERGENCY ALERT EXTREME!

Mrs. Appleton's cat did not come home for supper.

Some deadbeat Dad has not returned his daughter to his ex in Papua-New Guinea. Be extra-vigilant as Papuan-New Guineas might look like a Canadian Inuit.

[media.tenor.com image 220x243] [View Full Size image _x_]

This usually works for me.

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Jeff Goldblum Laughing
Youtube 1r-fidFoaHM
 
2020-06-03 1:38:13 PM  

Nana's Vibrator: Schnitt: (gameshow host voice) Golly who are these wacky terrible people I have to see videos of while I watch the news in my breakfast nook.  They're destroying the things I hold dearly!


It's like the manicure lady, except for Thai food.
 
2020-06-03 1:43:05 PM  

dv-ous: Nana's Vibrator: Schnitt: (gameshow host voice) Golly who are these wacky terrible people I have to see videos of while I watch the news in my breakfast nook.  They're destroying the things I hold dearly!

It's like the manicure lady, except for Thai food.


I'd like to think the Thai food thing was tongue in cheek.

But these young people with the skateboards with the rolley wheels and the smashy crashing.  Boy are they not reading the Wall Street Journal the way I was when I was 14?

/good podcast overall.  Needs more Drew.
 
2020-06-03 1:50:49 PM  
Thing I've been thinking:  If I was a small business owner whose livelihood had been left to drown by their government during a pandemic I might be relieved to see someone torch my business at this point. It's insured.
 
2020-06-03 1:52:32 PM  
White People Problems today.

1  No Thai food delivery because we're all under curfew.
 
2020-06-03 1:56:48 PM  
Oh great, more white people explaining black people to me.
 
2020-06-03 2:00:38 PM  

Modified Cornstarch: Is there a tb;dl version of this?


Came here to say this. Who wants to listen to 37mins of someone
 
2020-06-03 2:08:50 PM  

cman: Whos doing it? I believe there are three basic groups: folks who are pissed off that police still kill black folks and get away with it, people who only want to cause trouble, and finally folks who want a race-war.

There isnt one over-arching group responsible for this chaos.


I would add, "people that will steal stuff if given an opportunity to get away with it".
 
2020-06-03 2:08:59 PM  

Wendigogo: gretzkyscores: Nuanced?

Well, in that case, you just lost about 95% of Fark. We can only seem to handle bumper-sticker-sized slogans and explanations around here.

Hey, Shiat Happens.


Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
 
2020-06-03 2:15:50 PM  

guestguy: "Outside actors interfering with your protest?  Learn how to stop them with this one neat trick!"


Make police officers live in the city they're serving.
 
2020-06-03 2:20:03 PM  
Dear majority Americans conditions will not improve until then morale of minorities improve....to me it's real crazy at the president of the United States has labeled people in a anti-fascist group as terrorists but the KKK neo-nazis and other like groups are categorized as very fine people. the optics of that alone should have people backing away but it seems like I'm seeing more and more people side with Trump not addressing the real cauase of why the cities are burning down.
 
2020-06-03 2:36:37 PM  

Modified Cornstarch: Is there a tb;dl version of this?


Mostly Schnitt whining like a little biatch because he can't get Thai food at 9pm because of the curfew.
 
2020-06-03 2:40:17 PM  

DittoToo: Thing I've been thinking:  If I was a small business owner whose livelihood had been left to drown by their government during a pandemic I might be relieved to see someone torch my business at this point. It's insured.


I was told by a cop that riots aren't covered by insurance.
 
2020-06-03 2:41:20 PM  

Straight Outta Hate: Other than Target their looting has been pretty indiscriminate.


So it's a success?
 
2020-06-03 2:54:32 PM  

Black_Lazerus: the KKK neo-nazis and other like groups are categorized as very fine people.


Nope. He said "I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists -- because they should be condemned totally. "
 
2020-06-03 3:23:38 PM  

Straight Outta Hate: The rioters and looters do not GAF about the protest.
The rioters want to riot and do not believe in peaceful protest in the first place.


Unfortunately, "rioters" mostly means "peaceful protesters who were arrested without cause, or outright attacked by police".

But anything to de-legitimize the purpose of the protests, and make civility a priority over the lives of innocent people, right?

Oh also:

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2020-06-03 3:57:37 PM  

Straight Outta Hate: The rioters and looters do not GAF about the protest.
The rioters want to riot and do not believe in peaceful protest in the first place.
The looters are just out to get theirs.  Other than Target their looting has been pretty indiscriminate.


I for one am expressing my civil disobedience by hitting looters with a bat.
If their outrage over the injustices of our society is legitimized by looting a Foot Locker
Then my outrage is equally legitimized by hitting them with a bat as they attempt to do so.

So get on out there America and show how angry you are!
You can really make a difference.
 
2020-06-03 4:05:23 PM  
Can't they post a summary with it, instead of just a 37 minute video?
 
2020-06-03 7:32:57 PM  
Brooke Binkowski is the name of my ska 1980s Saturday morning cartoon theme song cover band.
 
2020-06-04 1:36:18 AM  
Is there any way to get the meat of what she said without all of the "Wah, I can't get tai food" and "I rode a bicycle around the park and I want to brag about how fast" stuff?  That took 5 minutes with no sign of anything other than more nonsense.  It's a 40 minute video, and probably has about 2 minutes of useful info.
 
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