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(ABC News)   Remember Dr. Fauci and the pandemic? Well he says the US should have 100 million doses of vaccine by the end of year   (abcnews.go.com) divider line
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2020-06-03 8:36:11 AM  
How will Trump dispense those 1000 doses?
 
2020-06-03 8:46:11 AM  
Of what vaccine? There is no vaccine. My god, shut the f*ck up already.

I understand giving people hope but stop with the blatant lies.
 
2020-06-03 8:46:13 AM  
If things keep getting worse, there may only be 100 million of us alive by then, so that should be plenty
 
2020-06-03 8:46:19 AM  
Should is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. I should be a millionaire but that's not reality.
 
2020-06-03 8:46:23 AM  
We're going to start manufacturing doses of the vaccines way before we even know that the vaccine works

Now that is a smart move. God I love smart people. Smart people have been saving our ass since the dawn of time.
 
2020-06-03 8:51:33 AM  
But they'll cost $5000 a pop.  Capitalism!
 
2020-06-03 8:51:46 AM  
I'm not seeing anything in that article about a vaccine... but I do see an Oklahoma State football player tested positive for COVID after protesting
 
2020-06-03 8:53:07 AM  

OldRod: I'm not seeing anything in that article about a vaccine... but I do see an Oklahoma State football player tested positive for COVID after protesting


NM, I didn't go far enough down the page
 
2020-06-03 8:54:42 AM  
They probably use some lottery system for the lucky chosen to receive the cure.
 
2020-06-03 8:56:13 AM  

OldRod: OldRod: I'm not seeing anything in that article about a vaccine... but I do see an Oklahoma State football player tested positive for COVID after protesting

NM, I didn't go far enough down the page


Everyone is doing this pagination thing where they add updates to articles.  It messes up Fark links.
 
2020-06-03 8:57:31 AM  
Wow Fauci just went from Hero to Zero. Guess Trump finally got to him and now he's  making up BS claims with nothing to back it up just like any good team Trumper

Fauci can STFU and go away now, he's just another sycophant doing whatever it takes to get attention and stay in donnie's good graces
 
2020-06-03 8:57:31 AM  
I googled Fauci and he doesn't say that, he's cautiously optimistic about a vaccine and tell us why in this article.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.​c​om/amp/articles/fauci-cautiously-optim​istic-about-coronavirus-vaccine-115911​32326
 
2020-06-03 8:58:17 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Of what vaccine? There is no vaccine. My god, shut the f*ck up already.

I understand giving people hope but stop with the blatant lies.


Pretty sure Fauci was doing a little projecting based on the number/progress of clinical trials.  I'd trust his guesses than a lot of other "professionals'" certainty.
 
2020-06-03 8:59:00 AM  

Merltech: They probably use some lottery system for the lucky chosen to receive the cure.


Lottery system? No. Kushner will just give the vaccines, save ones for Trump's inner circle of lap dogs, to a medical supply company founded a week earlier by a Trump campaign contributor and allow them to sell them at whatever price they want.
 
2020-06-03 8:59:20 AM  

rcain: Wow Fauci just went from Hero to Zero. Guess Trump finally got to him and now he's  making up BS claims with nothing to back it up just like any good team Trumper

Fauci can STFU and go away now, he's just another sycophant doing whatever it takes to get attention and stay in donnie's good graces


Wow, he said something you disagreed with, so down the memory hole he goes!

How very Trumpian.
 
2020-06-03 9:03:15 AM  
The article says almost nothing about vaccines. I wonder if this is real, or something he was forced to say.  Why hasn't anyone announced they have perfected a vaccine that works great? If that is what has already happened.
 
2020-06-03 9:03:59 AM  
There are a lot of things America "should have" by the end of the year. I think we ought to start a list of them
 
2020-06-03 9:04:15 AM  

GoldSpider: NewportBarGuy: Of what vaccine? There is no vaccine. My god, shut the f*ck up already.

I understand giving people hope but stop with the blatant lies.

Pretty sure Fauci was doing a little projecting based on the number/progress of clinical trials.  I'd trust his guesses than a lot of other "professionals'" certainty.


If there is no vaccine, than it is pulled from his ass. Like facts on Fark.
 
2020-06-03 9:04:32 AM  
Effective vaccine?  Safe vaccine?  COVID-19 vaccine?
 
2020-06-03 9:04:56 AM  

vudukungfu: How will Trump dispense those 1000 doses?


Donors and donor families only, watch.
 
2020-06-03 9:08:38 AM  

Random Anonymous Blackmail: GoldSpider: NewportBarGuy: Of what vaccine? There is no vaccine. My god, shut the f*ck up already.

I understand giving people hope but stop with the blatant lies.

Pretty sure Fauci was doing a little projecting based on the number/progress of clinical trials.  I'd trust his guesses than a lot of other "professionals'" certainty.

If there is no vaccine, than it is pulled from his ass. Like facts on Fark.


To be fair, there is a vaccine.  The unknown is whether it works or is safe.  What Fauci said is that they're ramping up manufacturing so that if the testing and trials are a success, the vaccine will be immediately available instead of having to do the ramp-up later.  It's basically a financial gamble (and one worth taking).
 
2020-06-03 9:09:31 AM  

Random Anonymous Blackmail: GoldSpider: NewportBarGuy: Of what vaccine? There is no vaccine. My god, shut the f*ck up already.

I understand giving people hope but stop with the blatant lies.

Pretty sure Fauci was doing a little projecting based on the number/progress of clinical trials.  I'd trust his guesses than a lot of other "professionals'" certainty.

If there is no vaccine, than it is pulled from his ass. Like facts on Fark.


I also trust his projections over random anonymous "experts" on the Internet.
 
2020-06-03 9:10:47 AM  
Dr. Fauci and the Pandemics is the name of my new prog. rock band.
 
2020-06-03 9:11:59 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Of what vaccine? There is no vaccine. My god, shut the f*ck up already.

I understand giving people hope but stop with the blatant lies.


We're manufacturing at risk before the trials are done. I guess that's the risk of linking to a continually updated news feed that's stale hours before it hits the main page.

"And by the beginning of 2021, we hope to have a couple of hundred million doses," he added. "So it isn't as if we're going to make the vaccine show its effective and then have to wait a year to rev up to millions and millions of doses. That's going to be done as we're testing the vaccine."
 
2020-06-03 9:13:03 AM  

wxboy: Random Anonymous Blackmail: GoldSpider: NewportBarGuy: Of what vaccine? There is no vaccine. My god, shut the f*ck up already.

I understand giving people hope but stop with the blatant lies.

Pretty sure Fauci was doing a little projecting based on the number/progress of clinical trials.  I'd trust his guesses than a lot of other "professionals'" certainty.

If there is no vaccine, than it is pulled from his ass. Like facts on Fark.

To be fair, there is a vaccine.  The unknown is whether it works or is safe.  What Fauci said is that they're ramping up manufacturing so that if the testing and trials are a success, the vaccine will be immediately available instead of having to do the ramp-up later.  It's basically a financial gamble (and one worth taking).



Yeah. Starting up production during development is expensive and wasteful, but makes sense in an emergency. This was done a lot in WWII.
 
2020-06-03 9:13:44 AM  

OldRod: I'm not seeing anything in that article about a vaccine... but I do see an Oklahoma State football player tested positive for COVID after protesting


Scrolling is hard.

The United States should have 100 million doses of one potential vaccine for COVID-19 by the end of the year, according to Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's top medical expert on the coronavirus pandemic.
 
2020-06-03 9:13:50 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Of what vaccine? There is no vaccine. My god, shut the f*ck up already.

I understand giving people hope but stop with the blatant lies.


they're manufacturing the vaccine while trials are being run so they have have it immediately available when the trials are over. Of course the vaccine may not be safe or effective, but hey, what'd ya want?
 
2020-06-03 9:15:56 AM  
As he did in the middle of the mess, as he did before the mess, and as he does now, Dr. Fauci tirelessly works everyday to make things better.
 
2020-06-03 9:17:03 AM  
Vaccine?

I'll trade you 5 liberated iPhone 11's (not activated), an ATM in a corner market run by an Immigrant family from Korea blown up for "reasons", the Frank Rizzo statue, a Jameson tat, 10 baseball bats, an Iggles 'Rona mask, and 3 empty tear gas canisters for it.

Tear gas canisters provided as per the order of the Mayor of Philadelphia....
 
2020-06-03 9:20:53 AM  
More like 100,000,000 doses of BLASPHEMOUS LIBERAL AUTISM STAB-JUICE!
 
2020-06-03 9:21:29 AM  

mikaloyd: There are a lot of things America "should have" by the end of the year. I think we ought to start a list of them


A new President?
 
2020-06-03 9:25:22 AM  

Ambivalence: NewportBarGuy: Of what vaccine? There is no vaccine. My god, shut the f*ck up already.

I understand giving people hope but stop with the blatant lies.

they're manufacturing the vaccine while trials are being run so they have have it immediately available when the trials are over. Of course the vaccine may not be safe or effective, but hey, what'd ya want?


That's fantastic... great forward thinking... I'm glad they're doing that.

It's also going to be a huge motivator to push it out to people even if it is not effective... They won't want to "waste the money"...

you can take that to the bank.
 
2020-06-03 9:26:50 AM  
One that works? That would be nice.
 
2020-06-03 9:28:45 AM  
I guess Trump has finally broken him.

This is so ridiculously bullish. He might as well be saying it will all be over by Jan 1.
 
2020-06-03 9:28:46 AM  
wxboy


Random Anonymous Blackmail: GoldSpider: NewportBarGuy: Of what vaccine? There is no vaccine. My god, shut the f*ck up already.

I understand giving people hope but stop with the blatant lies.

Pretty sure Fauci was doing a little projecting based on the number/progress of clinical trials. I'd trust his guesses than a lot of other "professionals'" certainty.

If there is no vaccine, than it is pulled from his ass. Like facts on Fark.

To be fair, there is a vaccine. The unknown is whether it works or is safe. What Fauci said is that they're ramping up manufacturing so that if the testing and trials are a success, the vaccine will be immediately available instead of having to do the ramp-up later. It's basically a financial gamble (and one worth taking).


So there is a vaccine, but it might not work or be safe.

So there is no vaccine, it like saying Mountain Dew cures cancer
 
2020-06-03 9:30:51 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Of what vaccine? There is no vaccine. My god, shut the f*ck up already.

I understand giving people hope but stop with the blatant lies.


If I recall correctly, the companies that are currently conducting vaccine trials are simultaneously ramping up production of said vaccine so that, should the trials bear fruit, they will have a massive stockpile on hand and ready to go as soon as final approval is given.
 
2020-06-03 9:32:04 AM  
There's a lady at my church who is a professor of public health at NYU. She does a covid-related Q&A every week. I asked about a vaccine on Sunday. She said: There will not be a vaccine for two years. And if there is, DO NOT TRUST IT.
 
2020-06-03 9:32:27 AM  
I really need to start reading short threads before I post stuff. Oh well.
 
2020-06-03 9:35:26 AM  

Icarus_Rising: NewportBarGuy: Of what vaccine? There is no vaccine. My god, shut the f*ck up already.

I understand giving people hope but stop with the blatant lies.

If I recall correctly, the companies that are currently conducting vaccine trials are simultaneously ramping up production of said vaccine so that, should the trials bear fruit, they will have a massive stockpile on hand and ready to go as soon as final approval is given.


Knowing the pharmaceutical companies there must be some tax write-off benefit or something where they get paid even if they have to throw them away.
 
2020-06-03 9:38:00 AM  

rcain: Wow Fauci just went from Hero to Zero. Guess Trump finally got to him and now he's  making up BS claims with nothing to back it up just like any good team Trumper

Fauci can STFU and go away now, he's just another sycophant doing whatever it takes to get attention and stay in donnie's good graces


Fauci said the vaccine would take longer than this based on the assumption we would ensure that it is safe and effective before ramping up production. If we ramp up production while we're testing, that potentially shrinks the timeline at the risk of wasting a lot of money. If we ramp up production of several candidates, we increase our odds of getting at least one good one.

The Manhattan Project worked similarly. They would try several ideas in parallel and hope that at least one would work.

This is all entirely consistent and reasonable if you understand the assumptions made, and it has nothing to do with Trump.
 
2020-06-03 9:39:23 AM  

Chevello: One that works? That would be nice.


One that works without any nasty side effects because they rushed it would be even nicer :)
 
2020-06-03 9:39:25 AM  
It'll be ok. Once the untested vaccine mutates those who take it, the rest of us will portal to another earth where we all just died, so we'll bury our bodies and move on as if nothing happened.
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2020-06-03 9:42:13 AM  
swine flu vaccine.

1976

500 cases Guillain Barré Syndrome

25 deaths
 
2020-06-03 9:45:01 AM  

OldRod: Chevello: One that works? That would be nice.

One that works without any nasty side effects because they rushed it would be even nicer :)


What would the world be without the occasional flipper baby to freak the kids out? Is that a world we really want to live in?
 
2020-06-03 9:45:16 AM  

Random Anonymous Blackmail: wxboy


Random Anonymous Blackmail: GoldSpider: NewportBarGuy: Of what vaccine? There is no vaccine. My god, shut the f*ck up already.

I understand giving people hope but stop with the blatant lies.

Pretty sure Fauci was doing a little projecting based on the number/progress of clinical trials. I'd trust his guesses than a lot of other "professionals'" certainty.

If there is no vaccine, than it is pulled from his ass. Like facts on Fark.

To be fair, there is a vaccine. The unknown is whether it works or is safe. What Fauci said is that they're ramping up manufacturing so that if the testing and trials are a success, the vaccine will be immediately available instead of having to do the ramp-up later. It's basically a financial gamble (and one worth taking).

So there is a vaccine, but it might not work or be safe.

So there is no vaccine, it like saying Mountain Dew cures cancer


I think referring to them as "doses of vaccine candidates" would have been harder for journalists to misreport, but whatever you call them, Fauci explained his meaning clearly: "We're going to start manufacturing doses of the vaccines way before we even know that the vaccine works."
 
2020-06-03 9:50:39 AM  

flart blooger: swine flu vaccine.

1976

500 cases Guillain Barré Syndrome

25 deaths


Which was better than the results of the polio vaccines in the 1950s that were acclaimed.

Risk is relative.
 
2020-06-03 9:54:49 AM  

Barfmaker: We're going to start manufacturing doses of the vaccines way before we even know that the vaccine works

Now that is a smart move. God I love smart people. Smart people have been saving our ass since the dawn of time.


Yeah, it's a money bet. If the vaccine passes trials, we have 100M doses much quicker than we do if we wait. If it fails trials, we've wasted a few million bucks.

It's a smart bet right now, given the damage the disease is causing to the economy. What's a few million more? And if it's right, it shaves 6-9 months off the time it will take for you to get a vaccine.

The key, of course, is betting on a good candidate.
 
2020-06-03 9:59:24 AM  
"Dr. Fauci and the Pandemic" is the name of my 70's one-hit-wonder cover band.
 
2020-06-03 10:01:08 AM  
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2020-06-03 10:05:23 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Of what vaccine? There is no vaccine. My god, shut the f*ck up already.

I understand giving people hope but stop with the blatant lies.


This.

I don't believe it.

This lie will get increasingly common as we near November though.
 
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