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2020-06-03 6:13:47 AM  
What is this - a console for ANTS????
 
2020-06-03 6:16:51 AM  
NEED  A WHITE ONE. (Oh crap was that racist?)

Shining Force on Game gear was my go to to on long car trips as a kid!
 
2020-06-03 6:25:53 AM  
FTFA: Now for some bullshiat: each of the four different colours comes with four different games installed on it.
The black one comes with Sonic, Out Run, Royal Stone and Puyo Puyo Tsu. Blue comes with Sonic & Tails, Gunstar Heroes, Sylvan Tale and Baku Baku Animal. Red includes Game Gear Shinobi, Columns and the two Megami Tensei Gaiden games, while yellow has Shining Force, Shining Force II, Shining Force: Final Conflict and Nazo Puyo Aruru no Ru.


Are you farking kidding me? Those games were 512KB each--or less. The entire catalog is under 128MB. Even the AtGames "replica" systems came with a couple dozen games.
 
2020-06-03 6:32:52 AM  
90% of the game gear library was total shiat.

Shinobi GG was the best game.
 
2020-06-03 7:19:31 AM  

Marcos P: 90% of the game gear library was total shiat.


I can attest to this.  The only one I had any fun with was Terminator 2; the rest were basically throwaway. I think I had a Dracula game and a Power Rangers game, both rather lame and poorly done. Worse was the default Sonic 2 game that came with the thing. I don't think I ever beat the first level. The number of rage-quits was epic.
 
2020-06-03 7:23:45 AM  

Pextor: What is this - a console for ANTS????


Even with the magnifier it's tiny. My hands wouldn't be able to hold the thing
 
2020-06-03 7:29:22 AM  
Subby's mom was right. That thing's too small to play with.
 
2020-06-03 7:36:44 AM  

Marcos P: 90% of the game gear library was total shiat.

Shinobi GG was the best game.


true. Had one back in the day. The two x-men games were fun. But most was terrible.
 
2020-06-03 7:47:28 AM  

Rattrap007: Marcos P: 90% of the game gear library was total shiat.

Shinobi GG was the best game.

true. Had one back in the day. The two x-men games were fun. But most was terrible.


Mine's still in the basement somewhere.  It came with a dead pixel, and I never found a game that was worth a shiat.
 
2020-06-03 7:52:25 AM  
Mrs. SLEZE made me get rid of my Atari Lynx that I had hoarded in our basement for many, many years.  Still worked when I started it up on the last day.  Batman was still impossibly hard.

/sniff
//Lynx > Game Gear
 
2020-06-03 7:52:42 AM  

SecondaryControl: Rattrap007: Marcos P: 90% of the game gear library was total shiat.

Shinobi GG was the best game.

true. Had one back in the day. The two x-men games were fun. But most was terrible.

Mine's still in the basement somewhere.  It came with a dead pixel, and I never found a game that was worth a shiat.


Seriously like Columns was one of the best games and that pretty much seals the systems fate.

The sonic games were terrible.
 
2020-06-03 7:53:18 AM  

sleze: Mrs. SLEZE made me get rid of my Atari Lynx that I had hoarded in our basement for many, many years.  Still worked when I started it up on the last day.  Batman was still impossibly hard.

/sniff
//Lynx > Game Gear


California games, blue thunder, and xenobots were farking crazy
 
2020-06-03 8:04:43 AM  
You want a battery drainer? Try the Sega Nomad. It cost more to put batteries in it than I paid for the system at a garage sale 20 years ago.
 
2020-06-03 8:15:41 AM  

clkeagle: FTFA: Now for some bullshiat: each of the four different colours comes with four different games installed on it.
The black one comes with Sonic, Out Run, Royal Stone and Puyo Puyo Tsu. Blue comes with Sonic & Tails, Gunstar Heroes, Sylvan Tale and Baku Baku Animal. Red includes Game Gear Shinobi, Columns and the two Megami Tensei Gaiden games, while yellow has Shining Force, Shining Force II, Shining Force: Final Conflict and Nazo Puyo Aruru no Ru.

Are you farking kidding me? Those games were 512KB each--or less. The entire catalog is under 128MB. Even the AtGames "replica" systems came with a couple dozen games.


If it's anything like other mini-systems, I'm sure someone will figure out how to put more games on it soon after launch.

The real problem is finding a large enough supply of really tiny AA batteries so you can run it for more than an hour.
 
2020-06-03 8:49:56 AM  

Shaggy_C: Marcos P: 90% of the game gear library was total shiat.

I can attest to this.  The only one I had any fun with was Terminator 2; the rest were basically throwaway. I think I had a Dracula game and a Power Rangers game, both rather lame and poorly done. Worse was the default Sonic 2 game that came with the thing. I don't think I ever beat the first level. The number of rage-quits was epic.


I've made it to maybe the third level in Sonic 2, but no further. And I think that was emulated on my DS instead of on my original console (which I still have). Game Gear was a handheld Master System, and most of the early titles were reframed Master System games (or, at least, shared the same designers). So of course their default difficulty level was 11. Maybe a 9 if it had an "easy" mode (Aerial Assault comes to mind).

Sega made amazing hardware in the 8-bit era... twice as powerful as Nintendo's. And in my opinion, they had the most responsive controllers ever made. It was a damn shame that nobody could ever make it to the end of a game because they were so farking difficult.
 
2020-06-03 8:51:52 AM  
Marcos P:

Shinobi GG was the best game.

yes, it was

I probably had a dozen games for that thing but Shinobi was the only one I actually played for more than ten minutes.

If you're feeling nostalgic, the game is available on the Nintendo Switch.
 
2020-06-03 8:53:15 AM  

clkeagle: Shaggy_C: Marcos P: 90% of the game gear library was total shiat.

I can attest to this.  The only one I had any fun with was Terminator 2; the rest were basically throwaway. I think I had a Dracula game and a Power Rangers game, both rather lame and poorly done. Worse was the default Sonic 2 game that came with the thing. I don't think I ever beat the first level. The number of rage-quits was epic.

I've made it to maybe the third level in Sonic 2, but no further. And I think that was emulated on my DS instead of on my original console (which I still have). Game Gear was a handheld Master System, and most of the early titles were reframed Master System games (or, at least, shared the same designers). So of course their default difficulty level was 11. Maybe a 9 if it had an "easy" mode (Aerial Assault comes to mind).

Sega made amazing hardware in the 8-bit era... twice as powerful as Nintendo's. And in my opinion, they had the most responsive controllers ever made. It was a damn shame that nobody could ever make it to the end of a game because they were so farking difficult.


I didn't think anything could get worse than the first Sonic on GG until I played the second one.
 
2020-06-03 8:53:30 AM  
It's even got a GameBoy-like attachment:
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2020-06-03 8:57:12 AM  

NeoCortex42: clkeagle: FTFA: Now for some bullshiat: each of the four different colours comes with four different games installed on it.
The black one comes with Sonic, Out Run, Royal Stone and Puyo Puyo Tsu. Blue comes with Sonic & Tails, Gunstar Heroes, Sylvan Tale and Baku Baku Animal. Red includes Game Gear Shinobi, Columns and the two Megami Tensei Gaiden games, while yellow has Shining Force, Shining Force II, Shining Force: Final Conflict and Nazo Puyo Aruru no Ru.

Are you farking kidding me? Those games were 512KB each--or less. The entire catalog is under 128MB. Even the AtGames "replica" systems came with a couple dozen games.

If it's anything like other mini-systems, I'm sure someone will figure out how to put more games on it soon after launch.

The real problem is finding a large enough supply of really tiny AA batteries so you can run it for more than an hour.


AtGames deliberately sold their handheld with an SD card port, smiled at us, and pretty much said "we have no idea what you'd use this for, but wanted you to have your options open."

I've looked at the Game Gear Micro story on a few sites now... no indication that it will have any sort of expansion capability. Which ultimately means we'd have to pay $200 for 16 random games.
 
2020-06-03 9:38:53 AM  
Is it me, or are they just capitalizing on nostalgia to make money with no regard for actual playability? Those things are tiny AF.
 
2020-06-03 9:43:47 AM  
clkeagle:

Are you farking kidding me? Those games were 512KB each--or less. The entire catalog is under 128MB. Even the AtGames "replica" systems came with a couple dozen games 85 games.

Fixed for accuracy, as far as the Portable Sega replica is concerned.

The Atari replica has 85 games,
 
2020-06-03 9:44:34 AM  

dv-ous: Is it me, or are they just capitalizing on nostalgia to make money with no regard for actual playability? Those things are tiny AF.


I could see buying one of these, as a novelty to put on a shelf, at $20. At the price their asking for that selection of games?  Not a chance.
 
2020-06-03 9:56:37 AM  
I was one of those kids who wanted a Game Gear over a GameBoy. That thing ate batteries 6 at a time. I wore out the jack for the AC adapter on mine, sticking close to a power outlet so it wouldn't go through quite so many batteries.

I had the Sonic games, Mortal Kombat, NBA Jam, Jurassic Park, and a few other titles. None of them were that good, but a 10 y.o. has low standards.
 
2020-06-03 10:06:08 AM  

Rattrap007: Marcos P: 90% of the game gear library was total shiat.

Shinobi GG was the best game.

true. Had one back in the day. The two x-men games were fun. But most was terrible.


Hmm, I played Sonic and Streets of Rage endlessly.  Have a few other games but don't remember too many.  The 7up game was a fun little platformer though.
 
2020-06-03 10:10:51 AM  
I might get the yellow one, depending on build quality.
Lemmings was my favorite game on the system.
If they were smart, they'd make a game store. Sell the device for $30 and let you download games for $5 a piece. Give it a gig of storage.  It's cheap now.
 
2020-06-03 10:22:46 AM  
Hey, it only took a quater of a century for this csb to become Fark relevant-ish:

I was Sonic in the national TV Game Gear commercials- I was a tester at SEGA; they recorded my gameplay for use. When you saw Sonic zipping around the screen, I was the guy controlling him.


/can i haz e-peen nao?
 
2020-06-03 10:30:22 AM  

E.S.Q.: Hey, it only took a quater of a century for this csb to become Fark relevant-ish:

I was Sonic in the national TV Game Gear commercials- I was a tester at SEGA; they recorded my gameplay for use. When you saw Sonic zipping around the screen, I was the guy controlling him.


/can i haz e-peen nao?


Run now dude, you're going to be drowning in women any second now.

Kidding, though. That's a legit csb
 
2020-06-03 11:55:57 AM  
Sega gg was the first console I bought. I loved that thing. As noted GG Shinobi was ace. I also liked Mickey Mouse, Streets of Rage (just picked up SoR4 for Switch a couple off weeks ago) and did like the Sonic games. They were just much harder than the Megadrive versions.

I'll probably pick it the black one and hope it gets hacked. Though I have an emulator for the Vita now anyway.
 
2020-06-03 12:07:05 PM  

NeoCortex42: dv-ous: Is it me, or are they just capitalizing on nostalgia to make money with no regard for actual playability? Those things are tiny AF.

I could see buying one of these, as a novelty to put on a shelf, at $20. At the price their asking for that selection of games?  Not a chance.


That's how I've felt about the Nintendo ones. When there were scalpers trying to sell for ridiculous prices all I could think was, "I want one, but only if I'm putting in my cart at Target with other stuff while I'm there."
 
2020-06-03 12:07:40 PM  
I mean if they would just release each past Con-Slow as a full library (not cable package pricing)and a emulator for PC, i'd actually pay for it.

But instead you can only get that for free, from potentially questionable sources, but you know like it or not that is technically on the market, sense the underground market is as free a market as it ever gets.
 
2020-06-03 12:14:21 PM  

Fano: NeoCortex42: dv-ous: Is it me, or are they just capitalizing on nostalgia to make money with no regard for actual playability? Those things are tiny AF.

I could see buying one of these, as a novelty to put on a shelf, at $20. At the price their asking for that selection of games?  Not a chance.

That's how I've felt about the Nintendo ones. When there were scalpers trying to sell for ridiculous prices all I could think was, "I want one, but only if I'm putting in my cart at Target with other stuff while I'm there."


The Nintendo ones are much more worthwhile. They're actually playable since they output to the TV and have full-size controllers. On top of that, the included games (especially the SNES version) come close to actually justifying the price. It doesn't hurt that it's trivially easy to add additional games too.

The PS1 mini is terrible, though. Thank goodness I didn't pay full price for that.
 
2020-06-03 1:19:58 PM  
Why Sega, why?
Give us a new Nomad with the Genesis mini internals or a Saturn/Dreamcast Mini combo instead of these poorly thought out things that only people with Donald Trump sized hands could play.
 
2020-06-03 4:47:33 PM  

NeoCortex42: clkeagle: FTFA: Now for some bullshiat: each of the four different colours comes with four different games installed on it.
The black one comes with Sonic, Out Run, Royal Stone and Puyo Puyo Tsu. Blue comes with Sonic & Tails, Gunstar Heroes, Sylvan Tale and Baku Baku Animal. Red includes Game Gear Shinobi, Columns and the two Megami Tensei Gaiden games, while yellow has Shining Force, Shining Force II, Shining Force: Final Conflict and Nazo Puyo Aruru no Ru.

Are you farking kidding me? Those games were 512KB each--or less. The entire catalog is under 128MB. Even the AtGames "replica" systems came with a couple dozen games.

If it's anything like other mini-systems, I'm sure someone will figure out how to put more games on it soon after launch.

The real problem is finding a large enough supply of really tiny AA batteries so you can run it for more than an hour.


I already did. Unfortunately it's on my Vita.
 
2020-06-03 4:54:37 PM  
I'll take a pass on the mini but a friend of mine in school had one and I've always wanted one since. Might have to get weird with a raspberry pi and pay someone to help me 3D print the case.

Just kidding I'm going to smoke weed and drink liquor when I'm off work but imagine how cool it would look if I had motivation, conqueror the crippling depression and got rid of the brain fog so I could learn something new!
 
2020-06-03 5:00:14 PM  
This is a slight upgrade to their original idea of a SEGA branded, battery powered lighter that burns customers and sets fire to their earnings. Slight.
 
2020-06-03 6:49:40 PM  

Hills-Sachs_Legion: I was one of those kids who wanted a Game Gear over a GameBoy. That thing ate batteries 6 at a time. I wore out the jack for the AC adapter on mine, sticking close to a power outlet so it wouldn't go through quite so many batteries.

I had the Sonic games, Mortal Kombat, NBA Jam, Jurassic Park, and a few other titles. None of them were that good, but a 10 y.o. has low standards.


Ah, kids are so stupid.

Pokemon + a 30 hour battery life on a pair of AAs.

There were other good games on the GBC but I didn't discover them until I had a GBC emulator. Dragon Warrior Monsters was also excellent. As well as Harvest Moon.
 
2020-06-03 7:29:27 PM  
Of all the consoles to remake... This one is the worst. The only thing that made the GameGear worth owning was having a MasterGear adapter to play Master System games on the GameGear, but it was bulky and not exactly made for portability.

It's especially stupid when you can buy any number of third-party emulator consoles that will play all the games from several consoles and come with a ton of them.

Or you can hack a Vita, 3DS, or PSP and run all the games in emulators. PSP and Vita even play PS1 games natively.
 
2020-06-03 9:56:23 PM  

clkeagle: AtGames deliberately sold their handheld with an SD card port, smiled at us, and pretty much said "we have no idea what you'd use this for, but wanted you to have your options open."


The coder of the emulator used in Sega Smash Pack on the Dreamcast didn't even try to be subtle. On the disc is a file called echelon.txt. Echelon was the main cracking group releasing Dreamcast games.

To whomever releases this pack..
Let me give you a few bits of info:
- I emulate a U.S. Genesis, including territory lock-out.
- ".sga" files are standard Genesis/Megadrive ".bin" files renamed.
- The emulator is looking for some parameters to be passed via Ginsu. If you don't know what that is, you'll figure it out:

MDE_US.BIN ALTBEAST.SGA MODE2 SKIP0 SOUND0
MODE0 = standard, fastest video mode settings
MODE1 = slower, supports some extra features
MODE2 = slowest, includes window layers (used by some games)
MODE4 = same as MODE0 with background skewing

SKIP0 = no sprite skipping until maximum reached
SKIP1 = moderate sprite skipping, used to prevent major slowdown
SKIP2 = maximum sprites skipped

SOUND0 = standard sound emulation
SOUND1 = sound tempo increased

And don't forget to pay your respects to Uncle Sonic.
Sony just doesn't get it.

- Gary
 
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