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2020-06-03 12:37:46 AM  
Sorry, I have been informed that this is all OK, and that the protesters can burn, loot, and destroy whatever they want, because, reasons. So I am not allowed to care about "property".

The moose out front should have told ya, subby.
 
2020-06-03 12:44:39 AM  
That wasn't a "Change of Hobbit"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Chang​e​_of_Hobbit

I mail ordered my Heinlein first edditions from there. And one lucky farker has one ...because she's wonderful.
 
2020-06-03 1:27:37 AM  
I haz a sad. The loss of a bookstore is one of the greatest loses a Civilization can suffer. The loss of a place to buy books.
 
2020-06-03 1:35:13 AM  
Reminds me of the LA riots, where the people burned down their own stores, including those which had been there for decades, and looted others, then took pot shots at ambulances and the fire departments who came to help them. For the longest time afterwards, no new businesses opened up there, insurance companies stopped coverage, pizza guys and taxi drivers would not enter the area (mainly because when they did, they got robbed)
and after it all, the people yelled discrimination.

In riots, insanity rules.
 
2020-06-03 2:12:33 AM  
That was depressing
 
2020-06-03 2:38:04 AM  
If I have to scroll left to read your post... well, I'm not reading it.
 
2020-06-03 2:41:11 AM  
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2020-06-03 5:45:23 AM  

fusillade762: If I have to scroll left to read your post... well, I'm not reading it.


If you have to scroll left, either your browsing preferences are weird or you have already scrolled to the left to learn it's not them but you.  Come on, man.
 
2020-06-03 5:46:30 AM  

brantgoose: I haz a sad. The loss of a bookstore is one of the greatest loses a Civilization can suffer. The loss of a place to buy books.


It was a fantastic one-of-a-kind bookstore that is a tragic loss. But no one knows who set the fires and I am betting on alt-right Boogaloo agitators more than any "antifa" or anarchist who tend to be very nerdy. Boogaloos like to beat up on nerds, their only gaming is via consoles and "Call of Duty". Otherwise they're at the gym, at the range or at the bar. It sucks UH/UE are a casualty of this war against authoritarian overreach and cop violence. War is hell, there is collateral damage. That's why war must be avoided. But us who oppose the slaying of innocents by the police and other authorities didn't start this war, we were thrust into it by a demented and sick madman leading racist and fascist ignorant white trash.

/ I loved that place, I really did, and it sucks it took a hit but the protesters didn't do this, the rioters did and we KNOW FOR A FACT there were a ton of Boogaloos there.
 
2020-06-03 5:48:47 AM  

433: fusillade762: If I have to scroll left to read your post... well, I'm not reading it.

If you have to scroll left, either your browsing preferences are weird or you have already scrolled to the left to learn it's not them but you.  Come on, man.


Have you tried looking at that site on a phone?  The text starts tiny, and by the time you zoom in enough to read it, the text column ends up being about four or five screens wide, so you have to scroll left and right to read anything.
 
2020-06-03 5:49:48 AM  

CrazyCurt: brantgoose: I haz a sad. The loss of a bookstore is one of the greatest loses a Civilization can suffer. The loss of a place to buy books.

It was a fantastic one-of-a-kind bookstore that is a tragic loss. But no one knows who set the fires and I am betting on alt-right Boogaloo agitators more than any "antifa" or anarchist who tend to be very nerdy. Boogaloos like to beat up on nerds, their only gaming is via consoles and "Call of Duty". Otherwise they're at the gym, at the range or at the bar. It sucks UH/UE are a casualty of this war against authoritarian overreach and cop violence. War is hell, there is collateral damage. That's why war must be avoided. But us who oppose the slaying of innocents by the police and other authorities didn't start this war, we were thrust into it by a demented and sick madman leading racist and fascist ignorant white trash.

/ I loved that place, I really did, and it sucks it took a hit but the protesters didn't do this, the rioters did and we KNOW FOR A FACT there were a ton of Boogaloos there.


THE BOOGALOO MOVEMENT IS NOT ABOUT RACISM. THEY ARE NOT FAR RIGHT. THEY ARE OUT PROTECTING BUSINESSES AND PROVIDING FIRST AID TO INJURED PROTESTERS.

Jesus Christ pull your head out of your ass.
 
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2020-06-03 5:58:34 AM  

Dork Gently: 433: fusillade762: If I have to scroll left to read your post... well, I'm not reading it.

If you have to scroll left, either your browsing preferences are weird or you have already scrolled to the left to learn it's not them but you.  Come on, man.

Have you tried looking at that site on a phone?  The text starts tiny, and by the time you zoom in enough to read it, the text column ends up being about four or five screens wide, so you have to scroll left and right to read anything.


I don't think we mean the same thing.

I will let it to the 1st gen sci fi folks to speak, this is loss.
 
433 [TotalFark] [BareFark]
2020-06-03 6:01:15 AM  

433: Dork Gently: 433: fusillade762: If I have to scroll left to read your post... well, I'm not reading it.

If you have to scroll left, either your browsing preferences are weird or you have already scrolled to the left to learn it's not them but you.  Come on, man.

Have you tried looking at that site on a phone?  The text starts tiny, and by the time you zoom in enough to read it, the text column ends up being about four or five screens wide, so you have to scroll left and right to read anything.

I don't think we mean the same thing.

I will let it to the 1st gen sci fi folks to speak, this is loss.


Oh crap, not even posting in the right thread.  How embarrassing.
 
2020-06-03 6:08:39 AM  
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2020-06-03 6:10:05 AM  

Rik01: Reminds me of the LA riots, where the people burned down their own stores, including those which had been there for decades, and looted others, then took pot shots at ambulances and the fire departments who came to help them.


I have long through that the strongest evidence against the likely success of socialism - which I support - is that people in poor areas frequently attack fire and ambulance crews trying to help them.
 
2020-06-03 6:19:27 AM  
Not even going to respond directly to the Boogaloo as I've already ignored the ignorant punk. They do NOT protect storefronts. They are there to instill VIOLENT REVOLUTION and BLAME IT ON BLM. That is their stated purpose on many forums and Discord channels.

You're stepping in my world, now. The Boogaloos are violent alt-right UTR punks addicted to Call Of Duty, Bud Light and bootlicking Fascists. They are Trump supporters and Republicans, ammosexuals and Confederate flag wavers. I have yet to hear, meet or see one that isn't. And make no mistake if i see one again i am out of farks to give.

/ Why yes I am Anti-fascist. But then so was America from 1941-1945. My, that was a very brief time, wasn't it?
 
2020-06-03 6:20:01 AM  
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This is not a how-to manual.
 
2020-06-03 6:20:25 AM  
Might I add, though ...

Triggered!

/ I got him!
 
2020-06-03 6:23:17 AM  

Dork Gently: 433: fusillade762: If I have to scroll left to read your post... well, I'm not reading it.

If you have to scroll left, either your browsing preferences are weird or you have already scrolled to the left to learn it's not them but you.  Come on, man.

Have you tried looking at that site on a phone?  The text starts tiny, and by the time you zoom in enough to read it, the text column ends up being about four or five screens wide, so you have to scroll left and right to read anything.


Click on the "make mobile friendly" right there at the bottom of the screen.
 
2020-06-03 6:24:07 AM  
Wait, since when have fascists had an affinity for burning books?
 
2020-06-03 6:26:07 AM  

CrazyCurt: Not even going to respond directly to the Boogaloo as I've already ignored the ignorant punk. They do NOT protect storefronts. They are there to instill VIOLENT REVOLUTION and BLAME IT ON BLM. That is their stated purpose on many forums and Discord channels.

You're stepping in my world, now. The Boogaloos are violent alt-right UTR punks addicted to Call Of Duty, Bud Light and bootlicking Fascists. They are Trump supporters and Republicans, ammosexuals and Confederate flag wavers. I have yet to hear, meet or see one that isn't. And make no mistake if i see one again i am out of farks to give.

/ Why yes I am Anti-fascist. But then so was America from 1941-1945. My, that was a very brief time, wasn't it?


Translation - I get my talking points from the MSM and wouldn't know a fact about the boogaloo movement if it sat on my face and wiggled.

I can show you HUNDREDS of boog bois on the ground, right now, providing security for stores, guarding protestors from the cops and providing first aid.

All while being accused of all this bullshiat that we have zero to do with, all because we are against #teamfreeshiat.

Newsflash - you can support people in their right to protest and still despise looters at the same time.
 
2020-06-03 6:27:25 AM  
I saw that a library in Minneapolis was also destroyed.

But this seems much worse.  I understand that this bookstore had many volumes of signed first-editions and out-of-print rare books.  Not all property is replaceable.

I support the civil rights protests.  But whoever did this, whichever side they claim to be on, are evil people.  If history has taught us anything, its that those who burn books are NEVER on the right side.
 
2020-06-03 6:31:25 AM  

maxbando: CrazyCurt: brantgoose: I haz a sad. The loss of a bookstore is one of the greatest loses a Civilization can suffer. The loss of a place to buy books.

It was a fantastic one-of-a-kind bookstore that is a tragic loss. But no one knows who set the fires and I am betting on alt-right Boogaloo agitators more than any "antifa" or anarchist who tend to be very nerdy. Boogaloos like to beat up on nerds, their only gaming is via consoles and "Call of Duty". Otherwise they're at the gym, at the range or at the bar. It sucks UH/UE are a casualty of this war against authoritarian overreach and cop violence. War is hell, there is collateral damage. That's why war must be avoided. But us who oppose the slaying of innocents by the police and other authorities didn't start this war, we were thrust into it by a demented and sick madman leading racist and fascist ignorant white trash.

/ I loved that place, I really did, and it sucks it took a hit but the protesters didn't do this, the rioters did and we KNOW FOR A FACT there were a ton of Boogaloos there.

THE BOOGALOO MOVEMENT IS NOT ABOUT RACISM. THEY ARE NOT FAR RIGHT. THEY ARE OUT PROTECTING BUSINESSES AND PROVIDING FIRST AID TO INJURED PROTESTERS.

Jesus Christ pull your head out of your ass.


Not familiar with them myself and this is the first time I recall hearing about them. So I googled them.
It appears you are wrong: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/​Boogaloo​_movement
 
2020-06-03 6:32:49 AM  
You know who else liked to burn books?
 
2020-06-03 6:43:09 AM  

Trik: maxbando: CrazyCurt: brantgoose: I haz a sad. The loss of a bookstore is one of the greatest loses a Civilization can suffer. The loss of a place to buy books.

It was a fantastic one-of-a-kind bookstore that is a tragic loss. But no one knows who set the fires and I am betting on alt-right Boogaloo agitators more than any "antifa" or anarchist who tend to be very nerdy. Boogaloos like to beat up on nerds, their only gaming is via consoles and "Call of Duty". Otherwise they're at the gym, at the range or at the bar. It sucks UH/UE are a casualty of this war against authoritarian overreach and cop violence. War is hell, there is collateral damage. That's why war must be avoided. But us who oppose the slaying of innocents by the police and other authorities didn't start this war, we were thrust into it by a demented and sick madman leading racist and fascist ignorant white trash.

/ I loved that place, I really did, and it sucks it took a hit but the protesters didn't do this, the rioters did and we KNOW FOR A FACT there were a ton of Boogaloos there.

THE BOOGALOO MOVEMENT IS NOT ABOUT RACISM. THEY ARE NOT FAR RIGHT. THEY ARE OUT PROTECTING BUSINESSES AND PROVIDING FIRST AID TO INJURED PROTESTERS.

Jesus Christ pull your head out of your ass.

Not familiar with them myself and this is the first time I recall hearing about them. So I googled them.
It appears you are wrong: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B​oogaloo_movement


Not a single statement in that wiki is accurate. Why don't you try going to the source, and actually talk to people in the movement.

Pro tip - real boogaloo members don't use discord or any of that crap, those are larpers who don't represent the real movement.

The boog bois are the ones in full kit standing in front of medics while they get shot at by the cops, because their full kit protects them from rubber bullets and live rounds, and cops aren't as likely to shoot at protestors who have armed guards.

We are against government tyranny, but also personal liberty. Robbing small business owners goes against that.
 
2020-06-03 6:44:50 AM  

maxbando: Trik: maxbando: CrazyCurt: brantgoose: I haz a sad. The loss of a bookstore is one of the greatest loses a Civilization can suffer. The loss of a place to buy books.

It was a fantastic one-of-a-kind bookstore that is a tragic loss. But no one knows who set the fires and I am betting on alt-right Boogaloo agitators more than any "antifa" or anarchist who tend to be very nerdy. Boogaloos like to beat up on nerds, their only gaming is via consoles and "Call of Duty". Otherwise they're at the gym, at the range or at the bar. It sucks UH/UE are a casualty of this war against authoritarian overreach and cop violence. War is hell, there is collateral damage. That's why war must be avoided. But us who oppose the slaying of innocents by the police and other authorities didn't start this war, we were thrust into it by a demented and sick madman leading racist and fascist ignorant white trash.

/ I loved that place, I really did, and it sucks it took a hit but the protesters didn't do this, the rioters did and we KNOW FOR A FACT there were a ton of Boogaloos there.

THE BOOGALOO MOVEMENT IS NOT ABOUT RACISM. THEY ARE NOT FAR RIGHT. THEY ARE OUT PROTECTING BUSINESSES AND PROVIDING FIRST AID TO INJURED PROTESTERS.

Jesus Christ pull your head out of your ass.

Not familiar with them myself and this is the first time I recall hearing about them. So I googled them.
It appears you are wrong: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B​oogaloo_movement

Not a single statement in that wiki is accurate. Why don't you try going to the source, and actually talk to people in the movement.

Pro tip - real boogaloo members don't use discord or any of that crap, those are larpers who don't represent the real movement.

The boog bois are the ones in full kit standing in front of medics while they get shot at by the cops, because their full kit protects them from rubber bullets and live rounds, and cops aren't as likely to shoot at protestors who have armed guards.

We are against government tyranny, but also personal liberty. Robbing small business owners goes against that.


Won't let me edit, but it should read "we are against government tyranny but for personal liberty." Having to use speech to text.
 
2020-06-03 6:50:06 AM  

CrazyCurt: I use Angie's List all the time!!


Of course you do.
 
2020-06-03 7:07:43 AM  

maxbando: Trik: maxbando: CrazyCurt: brantgoose: I haz a sad. The loss of a bookstore is one of the greatest loses a Civilization can suffer. The loss of a place to buy books.

It was a fantastic one-of-a-kind bookstore that is a tragic loss. But no one knows who set the fires and I am betting on alt-right Boogaloo agitators more than any "antifa" or anarchist who tend to be very nerdy. Boogaloos like to beat up on nerds, their only gaming is via consoles and "Call of Duty". Otherwise they're at the gym, at the range or at the bar. It sucks UH/UE are a casualty of this war against authoritarian overreach and cop violence. War is hell, there is collateral damage. That's why war must be avoided. But us who oppose the slaying of innocents by the police and other authorities didn't start this war, we were thrust into it by a demented and sick madman leading racist and fascist ignorant white trash.

/ I loved that place, I really did, and it sucks it took a hit but the protesters didn't do this, the rioters did and we KNOW FOR A FACT there were a ton of Boogaloos there.

THE BOOGALOO MOVEMENT IS NOT ABOUT RACISM. THEY ARE NOT FAR RIGHT. THEY ARE OUT PROTECTING BUSINESSES AND PROVIDING FIRST AID TO INJURED PROTESTERS.

Jesus Christ pull your head out of your ass.

Not familiar with them myself and this is the first time I recall hearing about them. So I googled them.
It appears you are wrong: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B​oogaloo_movement

Not a single statement in that wiki is accurate. Why don't you try going to the source, and actually talk to people in the movement.

Pro tip - real boogaloo members don't use discord or any of that crap, those are larpers who don't represent the real movement.

The boog bois are the ones in full kit standing in front of medics while they get shot at by the cops, because their full kit protects them from rubber bullets and live rounds, and cops aren't as likely to shoot at protestors who have armed guards.

We are against government tyranny, bu ...


If you are different from those mentioned in the wiki you should rename your movement or take the name back from them.
 
2020-06-03 7:12:09 AM  
It's no surprise that the savages only burned the book store and didn't loot it.
 
2020-06-03 7:14:50 AM  

CrazyCurt: You're stepping in my world, now. The Boogaloos are violent alt-right UTR punks addicted to Call Of Duty, Bud Light and bootlicking Fascists. They are Trump supporters and Republicans, ammosexuals and Confederate flag wavers. I have yet to hear, meet or see one that isn't. And make no mistake if i see one again i am out of farks to give.

/ Why yes I am Anti-fascist. But then so was America from 1941-1945. My, that was a very brief time, wasn't it?


Are you some kind of embedded resistance within the Boogaloos?  That sounds kinda rad and depressing at the same time.
 
2020-06-03 7:20:00 AM  

maxbando: Trik: maxbando: CrazyCurt: brantgoose: I haz a sad. The loss of a bookstore is one of the greatest loses a Civilization can suffer. The loss of a place to buy books.

It was a fantastic one-of-a-kind bookstore that is a tragic loss. But no one knows who set the fires and I am betting on alt-right Boogaloo agitators more than any "antifa" or anarchist who tend to be very nerdy. Boogaloos like to beat up on nerds, their only gaming is via consoles and "Call of Duty". Otherwise they're at the gym, at the range or at the bar. It sucks UH/UE are a casualty of this war against authoritarian overreach and cop violence. War is hell, there is collateral damage. That's why war must be avoided. But us who oppose the slaying of innocents by the police and other authorities didn't start this war, we were thrust into it by a demented and sick madman leading racist and fascist ignorant white trash.

/ I loved that place, I really did, and it sucks it took a hit but the protesters didn't do this, the rioters did and we KNOW FOR A FACT there were a ton of Boogaloos there.

THE BOOGALOO MOVEMENT IS NOT ABOUT RACISM. THEY ARE NOT FAR RIGHT. THEY ARE OUT PROTECTING BUSINESSES AND PROVIDING FIRST AID TO INJURED PROTESTERS.

Jesus Christ pull your head out of your ass.

Not familiar with them myself and this is the first time I recall hearing about them. So I googled them.
It appears you are wrong: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B​oogaloo_movement

Not a single statement in that wiki is accurate. Why don't you try going to the source, and actually talk to people in the movement.

Pro tip - real boogaloo members don't use discord or any of that crap, those are larpers who don't represent the real movement.

The boog bois are the ones in full kit standing in front of medics while they get shot at by the cops, because their full kit protects them from rubber bullets and live rounds, and cops aren't as likely to shoot at protestors who have armed guards.

We are against government tyranny, bu ...


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2020-06-03 7:21:58 AM  
How is there still debate about any of this?

Murder is wrong on every level, illegal and must be prosecuted.

Peaceful protest is completely acceptable and appropriate.

Rioting, looting and burning - by anyone - is shameful, counterproductive, illegal and must be prosecuted.
 
2020-06-03 7:27:31 AM  
You know, maybe the people of Minneapolis deserve to be under the iron boot of the police after all.
 
2020-06-03 7:29:25 AM  
Looks like a targeted hit job under the convenient cover of an insurrection.
Owner probably did it to cash in on the insurance.
 
2020-06-03 7:31:49 AM  

jso2897: Looks like a targeted hit job under the convenient cover of an insurrection.
Owner probably did it to cash in on the insurance.


Wow, I thought the other guys were dumb, but you just won the goddamned prize for most stupid comment.
 
2020-06-03 7:33:54 AM  

CrazyCurt: It wasn't the protestors. It was the rioters. And a lot of them were Booglaoos, alt-right scum and Proud Boy twerps. Who's fake "antifa" sites have been shut down? American Identity Movement, formerly known is Identity Evropa which has to be the lamest attempt to seem like tough Romans. There's your book burners and betting on them being the culprits.

/ If we go with the Magat logic then why would a bunch of street "thugs" and Antifa deliberately burn down a place that carried large quantities of underground comics, banned books and Liberal-leaning literature?


From here:
"I have not seen any clear evidence that white supremacists or militiamen are masking up and going out to burn and loot," said Howard Graves, a research analyst at the Southern Poverty Law Center who tracks white supremacist and other anti-government extremist groups.

When the NYT and SPLC are giving up on an anti-right narrative, it's probably time to let it drop.
 
2020-06-03 7:38:29 AM  

AurizenDarkstar: jso2897: Looks like a targeted hit job under the convenient cover of an insurrection.
Owner probably did it to cash in on the insurance.

Wow, I thought the other guys were dumb, but you just won the goddamned prize for most stupid comment.


Well, the entire conversation has been speculative idiocy. I'm just going where the flow takes me.
My mindlessly stupid speculation is as good as anybody else's mindlessly stupid speculation.
They need to catch the people who did this, if possible.
Right now, all we know is that somebody seems to have pretty deliberately burnt this guy's store down.
We have no idea who, at this point.
But a conversation confined to those parameters would be boring, and profoundly uncharacteristic of Fark.
 
2020-06-03 7:40:46 AM  

Mikey1969: Sorry, I have been informed that this is all OK, and that the protesters can burn, loot, and destroy whatever they want, because, reasons. So I am not allowed to care about "property".

The moose out front should have told ya, subby.


Perhaps you should actually read the posts on the page...according to the local police, those arrested for the arsons and vandalism have been "young white men from out of state."
 
2020-06-03 7:41:59 AM  

jso2897: AurizenDarkstar: jso2897: Looks like a targeted hit job under the convenient cover of an insurrection.
Owner probably did it to cash in on the insurance.

Wow, I thought the other guys were dumb, but you just won the goddamned prize for most stupid comment.

Well, the entire conversation has been speculative idiocy. I'm just going where the flow takes me.
My mindlessly stupid speculation is as good as anybody else's mindlessly stupid speculation.
They need to catch the people who did this, if possible.
Right now, all we know is that somebody seems to have pretty deliberately burnt this guy's store down.

We have no idea who, at this point.
But a conversation confined to those parameters would be boring, and profoundly uncharacteristic of Fark.


Well, I'm surprised.  At least I'm not the only one who thinks that while the entire block was hit, that it seems that his stores were probably targeted for some reason.

And the reason I believe that is, no normal person goes out of their way to burn books.  To me, that just smacks of someone wanting to send a message along with their destruction (even if it isn't personally to the owner).
 
2020-06-03 7:42:56 AM  

Wolfen067: Mikey1969: Sorry, I have been informed that this is all OK, and that the protesters can burn, loot, and destroy whatever they want, because, reasons. So I am not allowed to care about "property".

The moose out front should have told ya, subby.

Perhaps you should actually read the posts on the page...according to the local police, those arrested for the arsons and vandalism have been "young white men from out of state."


The local officials he mentioned later admitted that they were wrong, and a large majority of those arrested were from in-state.
 
2020-06-03 7:44:43 AM  

Wolfen067: Mikey1969: Sorry, I have been informed that this is all OK, and that the protesters can burn, loot, and destroy whatever they want, because, reasons. So I am not allowed to care about "property".

The moose out front should have told ya, subby.

Perhaps you should actually read the posts on the page...according to the local police, those arrested for the arsons and vandalism have been "young white men from out of state."


They retracted that statement literally the next morning. It was a lie.
 
2020-06-03 7:46:36 AM  
Never forget.   Black Lives Matter.
 
2020-06-03 7:46:41 AM  
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2020-06-03 7:48:48 AM  

Boojum2k: Wolfen067: Mikey1969: Sorry, I have been informed that this is all OK, and that the protesters can burn, loot, and destroy whatever they want, because, reasons. So I am not allowed to care about "property".

The moose out front should have told ya, subby.

Perhaps you should actually read the posts on the page...according to the local police, those arrested for the arsons and vandalism have been "young white men from out of state."

They retracted that statement literally the next morning. It was a lie.


Not even the next morning.  It was later the same day.
 
2020-06-03 7:50:25 AM  

Mikey1969: Sorry, I have been informed that this is all OK, and that the protesters can burn, loot, and destroy whatever they want, because, reasons. So I am not allowed to care about "property".

The moose out front should have told ya, subby.


i've been told the exact same thing.  meanwhile, the only two grocery stores in a food desert has just laid off nearly 600 people and will probably never reopen.  the shortsightedness of this is staggering.  next week when grandma dies because her medicine was looted, i'm sure they will reflect and blame someone else.
 
2020-06-03 7:54:07 AM  

Steakzilla: You mentioned the accelerant as if it somehow proved that it wasn't rioters... If trying to start a fire during a riot you're most certainly doing to use the most expedient method possible, otherwise you'll be there for 15 minutes trying to get a fire started. I'm willing to believe these fires were set by people who were not rioting as part of the protest but without some sort of evidence I'm inclined to believe it was rioters.


Nope, wasn't my point.

You don't use an accelerant unless you want to guarantee that a blaze will go up quickly.  I know that much from actually reading up on the subject (and having an uncle that was a cop helps as well).  That's why I think it was a group that took advantage of the rioting going on.

But hey, I'm not the cops, and I'm more upset that someone went out of their way to burn books.
 
2020-06-03 8:04:18 AM  
Was the store a minority owned business? If not, then it should burn. Can't have none of that.

Was the store a minority owned business? Then it definitely should have burned because nothing teaches whitey a lesson more than burning down your neighbors' businesses. Well, except maybe beating an elderly white woman with a board in front of her store or a white paraplegic sitting in her wheelchair. Those be real good lessons, yo. Slap me fro.
 
2020-06-03 8:07:14 AM  
If it's white supremacists doing these arsons, why are minority owned businesses boarding up and putting signs out that they're black/brown owned?

Seems kinda counter productive.
 
2020-06-03 8:07:18 AM  

CrazyCurt: we KNOW FOR A FACT there were a ton of Boogaloos there.


Someone has been buying into the media hysteria too much.
 
2020-06-03 8:09:48 AM  

AurizenDarkstar: Steakzilla: You mentioned the accelerant as if it somehow proved that it wasn't rioters... If trying to start a fire during a riot you're most certainly doing to use the most expedient method possible, otherwise you'll be there for 15 minutes trying to get a fire started. I'm willing to believe these fires were set by people who were not rioting as part of the protest but without some sort of evidence I'm inclined to believe it was rioters.

Nope, wasn't my point.

You don't use an accelerant unless you want to guarantee that a blaze will go up quickly.  I know that much from actually reading up on the subject (and having an uncle that was a cop helps as well).  That's why I think it was a group that took advantage of the rioting going on.

But hey, I'm not the cops, and I'm more upset that someone went out of their way to burn books.


It's funny because you re-iterated your point and it's not different than what I thought at all.  Somehow you think that wanted the blaze to go up quickly means it wasn't rioters.  My point is that rioters want shiat to burn fast too!  As I mentioned before, rioters aren't out there starting fires by rubbing sticks together.  They aren't building perfect little fire pyramids and lighting them with crumpled up newspapers.  I'm willing to bet that almost every fire was started with accelerant.
 
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