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2020-06-03 4:18:51 AM  
Great, now see if you can try to make an effort to make your shows less copsucking propaganda. Chicago PD is should be renamed Chicago PB on account of the non-stop brutality.
 
2020-06-03 4:19:08 AM  
Good
 
2020-06-03 4:19:52 AM  
Tainted Love but the clapping is replaced with the Law & Order sound effect
Youtube hAmb7Td-lEw
 
2020-06-03 4:21:20 AM  
You're trying to tell me "Dick Wolf" and "Craig Gore" are real-life names?
 
2020-06-03 5:04:17 AM  

Bslim: Great, now see if you can try to make an effort to make your shows less copsucking propaganda. Chicago PD is should be renamed Chicago PB on account of the non-stop brutality.


Why does everyone in Chicago have such a gravely voice?

The beauty of original L&O, and the earlier (Stabler) episodes of SVU, was that they were about the cases, not the characters. I really miss that. I liked that character traits were revealed subtly, in 30-second conversations, rather than dedicating entire episodes to the personal lives of the detectives. I didn't realize Ed Green had a gambling problem until I had seen certain episodes multiple times, for example.
 
2020-06-03 5:19:37 AM  

mattj1984: You're trying to tell me "Dick Wolf" and "Craig Gore" are real-life names?


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2020-06-03 5:25:18 AM  
Police shows (and that character in particular) have done a lot to help form our current police archetype.  Totally farking nuts and out of control because they hate crime SO MUCH.

It's almost more toxic than the general deification of police and the military
 
2020-06-03 6:21:17 AM  
Bad Religion - "The Kids Are Alt-Right"
Youtube hES9IBTPbcw
 
2020-06-03 6:29:50 AM  
I don't think a single person whose cherrypicked Tweets were quoted in that article has ever watched an episode of any iteration of Law & Order.  And if they have they have a hard time understanding simple things.
 
2020-06-03 6:43:55 AM  

razyjean: Bslim: Great, now see if you can try to make an effort to make your shows less copsucking propaganda. Chicago PD is should be renamed Chicago PB on account of the non-stop brutality.

Why does everyone in Chicago have such a gravely voice?

The beauty of original L&O, and the earlier (Stabler) episodes of SVU, was that they were about the cases, not the characters. I really miss that. I liked that character traits were revealed subtly, in 30-second conversations, rather than dedicating entire episodes to the personal lives of the detectives. I didn't realize Ed Green had a gambling problem until I had seen certain episodes multiple times, for example.


And they all seem to be in a constant state of barely concealed aggravation or outright fury. Are people there really like that,?jeeeez. You don't see that in his NYC based shows.


Oh, and Wolf was directly responsible for dismantling whatever made Miami Vice cool to watch when he took over after the second season, f*ck him straight up his hacky ass.
 
2020-06-03 6:52:40 AM  

Super_pope: Police shows (and that character in particular) have done a lot to help form our current police archetype.  Totally farking nuts and out of control because they hate crime SO MUCH.

It's almost more toxic than the general deification of police and the military


Crime is not even what they hate, they hate:

Civilians
Those motherf*ckers at the "rat-squad" i.e Internal Affairs
Civilians
Junkies
Rats i.e. responsible fellow officers who report their misdeeds
Their sergeant
Their former sergeant
The Captain
The Lieutenant
The Feds for "trying to steal their collars" (that one I will never understand that one since it means less work load on the "dehpahtment")
The DEA for running ops on "their" streets without giving a heads-up (that one I can understand since they are basically a gang of scumbags)
Civilians
Street snitches AND/OR people who don't snitch (I can't even)

On a really great crossover event you can get to see all of those in ONE episode!
 
2020-06-03 7:03:48 AM  
It's been pretty well established that you shouldn't piss off Dick Wolf.  That's one reason why the cast of his shows are a revolving door of characters.  However, without his shows, actors would have nothing to put in their Playbill bios.
 
2020-06-03 7:11:01 AM  

Super_pope: Police shows (and that character in particular) have done a lot to help form our current police archetype.  Totally farking nuts and out of control because they hate crime SO MUCH.

It's almost more toxic than the general deification of police and the military


Better watch out who you say that to

I heard this one cop named Vic Mackey is a real asshole
 
2020-06-03 7:14:27 AM  

Bslim: razyjean: Bslim: Great, now see if you can try to make an effort to make your shows less copsucking propaganda. Chicago PD is should be renamed Chicago PB on account of the non-stop brutality.

Why does everyone in Chicago have such a gravely voice?

The beauty of original L&O, and the earlier (Stabler) episodes of SVU, was that they were about the cases, not the characters. I really miss that. I liked that character traits were revealed subtly, in 30-second conversations, rather than dedicating entire episodes to the personal lives of the detectives. I didn't realize Ed Green had a gambling problem until I had seen certain episodes multiple times, for example.

And they all seem to be in a constant state of barely concealed aggravation or outright fury. Are people there really like that,?jeeeez. You don't see that in his NYC based shows.


Oh, and Wolf was directly responsible for dismantling whatever made Miami Vice cool to watch when he took over after the second season, f*ck him straight up his hacky ass.


Yes!  Completely ruined Miami Vice.  He didn't understand what made it popular.
 
2020-06-03 7:16:43 AM  
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2020-06-03 7:27:26 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Bslim: razyjean: Bslim: Great, now see if you can try to make an effort to make your shows less copsucking propaganda. Chicago PD is should be renamed Chicago PB on account of the non-stop brutality.

Why does everyone in Chicago have such a gravely voice?

The beauty of original L&O, and the earlier (Stabler) episodes of SVU, was that they were about the cases, not the characters. I really miss that. I liked that character traits were revealed subtly, in 30-second conversations, rather than dedicating entire episodes to the personal lives of the detectives. I didn't realize Ed Green had a gambling problem until I had seen certain episodes multiple times, for example.

And they all seem to be in a constant state of barely concealed aggravation or outright fury. Are people there really like that,?jeeeez. You don't see that in his NYC based shows.


Oh, and Wolf was directly responsible for dismantling whatever made Miami Vice cool to watch when he took over after the second season, f*ck him straight up his hacky ass.

Yes!  Completely ruined Miami Vice.  He didn't understand what made it popular.


AND HE'S STILL RECREATING THE SAME SCENES!

Just yesterday I happened to be watching an ep from season six, right? The set-up is, two guys from the unit are making a buy from some scumbag club owner (shiatty actor from that horrible Stephen King SyFy Haven series) and everyone is in a warehouse and there's the Aston Martin and the crappy Chrysler products (why is the INTELLIGENCE UNDERCOVER unit driving the same easily identifiable SRT Hellcats, every day? in the same city? where they keep arresting people?) aaaaaanyhoo it's a scene straigh- out of Miami Vice. Which wouldn't normally be a problem....'cept they do it every other episode. C'mon maaaaan
 
2020-06-03 7:47:40 AM  

Bslim: Rapmaster2000: Bslim: razyjean: Bslim: Great, now see if you can try to make an effort to make your shows less copsucking propaganda. Chicago PD is should be renamed Chicago PB on account of the non-stop brutality.

Why does everyone in Chicago have such a gravely voice?

The beauty of original L&O, and the earlier (Stabler) episodes of SVU, was that they were about the cases, not the characters. I really miss that. I liked that character traits were revealed subtly, in 30-second conversations, rather than dedicating entire episodes to the personal lives of the detectives. I didn't realize Ed Green had a gambling problem until I had seen certain episodes multiple times, for example.

And they all seem to be in a constant state of barely concealed aggravation or outright fury. Are people there really like that,?jeeeez. You don't see that in his NYC based shows.


Oh, and Wolf was directly responsible for dismantling whatever made Miami Vice cool to watch when he took over after the second season, f*ck him straight up his hacky ass.

Yes!  Completely ruined Miami Vice.  He didn't understand what made it popular.

AND HE'S STILL RECREATING THE SAME SCENES!

Just yesterday I happened to be watching an ep from season six, right? The set-up is, two guys from the unit are making a buy from some scumbag club owner (shiatty actor from that horrible Stephen King SyFy Haven series) and everyone is in a warehouse and there's the Aston Martin and the crappy Chrysler products (why is the INTELLIGENCE UNDERCOVER unit driving the same easily identifiable SRT Hellcats, every day? in the same city? where they keep arresting people?) aaaaaanyhoo it's a scene straigh- out of Miami Vice. Which wouldn't normally be a problem....'cept they do it every other episode. C'mon maaaaan


Was there a metal briefcase, a guy named Espinoza, and someone who says "You guys got the stuff?"

That's an odd question at a drug deal.  I would assume they have the stuff.  That just seems like theater.
 
2020-06-03 7:49:35 AM  
Don't post anything to social media that you wouldn't want to get back to your boss. Why is that so hard to understand?
 
2020-06-03 7:50:47 AM  

Bslim: Great, now see if you can try to make an effort to make your shows less copsucking propaganda. Chicago PD is should be renamed Chicago PB on account of the non-stop brutality.


Ah, but you're forgetting that Hank is "unconventional" in his methods but gets results. Also in real life Beghe is a bit of an asshole who apologized for his on-set behavior after Sophia Bush left.
 
2020-06-03 7:59:04 AM  

ukexpat: Bslim: Great, now see if you can try to make an effort to make your shows less copsucking propaganda. Chicago PD is should be renamed Chicago PB on account of the non-stop brutality.

Ah, but you're forgetting that Hank is "unconventional" in his methods but gets results. Also in real life Beghe is a bit of an asshole who apologized for his on-set behavior after Sophia Bush left.


I don't think the dude is even acting. He just shows up as Jason Beghe delivers lines and everybody just agrees to call him Hank.
 
2020-06-03 8:00:46 AM  
He'll be hired by Blue Bloods.

Book it, done.
 
2020-06-03 8:00:55 AM  

stoli n coke: Don't post anything to social media that you wouldn't want to get back to your boss. Why is that so hard to understand?


Yep.

On social media that requires my real name, like Facebook, I post relatively bland things.  Museum trips, ham radio events, things I've made, pictures from primitive biathlon events, etc.

I expressly avoid posting political things simply because that's asking for trouble.  If you take some position or another, and it doesn't in fact matter what that position is, you're likely to be closing off opportunities in the future or putting yourself in danger of being fired depending on how the political winds blow, and not necessarily nationally, but also locally.

Especially in these times where people think that "free speech" begins and ends with the First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States.

Cancel culture has become a very real thing, and I think that while you can justify individual occurrences of it, society as a whole is going to suffer for it.
 
2020-06-03 8:14:40 AM  

OtherLittleGuy: He'll be hired by Blue Bloods.

Book it, done.


The only thing I watch on CBS is "Price is Right", so I get to see ads for the CBS lineup.  Every show on CBS is some cop/military drama - sometimes both at once.  Every preview has someone yelling into a walkie talkie and then an explosion.  And they're all filmed in these sepia tones that look ridiculous.
 
2020-06-03 8:24:48 AM  

Rapmaster2000: OtherLittleGuy: He'll be hired by Blue Bloods.

Book it, done.

The only thing I watch on CBS is "Price is Right", so I get to see ads for the CBS lineup.  Every show on CBS is some cop/military drama - sometimes both at once.  Every preview has someone yelling into a walkie talkie and then an explosion.  And they're all filmed in these sepia tones that look ridiculous.


That reminds me of the various CSI series... NY was in greyscale, Miami was orange, Las Vegas was regular. Also, it seemed like it had always *just* rained in Miami; the pavement/sidewalks were always wet.
 
2020-06-03 8:29:25 AM  
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I fully support his decision.
 
2020-06-03 8:30:03 AM  

Rapmaster2000: OtherLittleGuy: He'll be hired by Blue Bloods.

Book it, done.

The only thing I watch on CBS is "Price is Right", so I get to see ads for the CBS lineup.  Every show on CBS is some cop/military drama - sometimes both at once.  Every preview has someone yelling into a walkie talkie and then an explosion.  And they're all filmed in these sepia tones that look ridiculous.


I don't get the NCIS franchise at all.  As I understand it, the Naval Criminal Investigative Service is supposed to investigate crimes involving members of either the US Navy or the US Marine Corps.  These shows make it seem like they can just investigate -- anything.  Like they have jurisdiction over the crime if the victim or suspect was ever on a boat at some point, or saw "Full Metal Jacket."
 
2020-06-03 8:34:44 AM  

baorao: [Fark user image image 425x281]
I fully support his decision.


I hope to God that is a photoshop and not a real tattoo.
 
2020-06-03 8:34:45 AM  

Rapmaster2000: OtherLittleGuy: He'll be hired by Blue Bloods.

Book it, done.

The only thing I watch on CBS is "Price is Right", so I get to see ads for the CBS lineup.  Every show on CBS is some cop/military drama - sometimes both at once.  Every preview has someone yelling into a walkie talkie and then an explosion.  And they're all filmed in these sepia tones that look ridiculous.


I don't even watch network TV anymore.

Mostly, if I'm watching something, it's something on YouTube that is educational (Forgotten Weapons, Nick Zentner's excellent geology lectures, The History Guy, Royal Institute talks, paleontology lectures from the Royal Tyrrell Institute in Canada, that sort of thing), or I'm watching something that I know is quality entertainment.  Some of that can be YouTube based, some from my collection of DVD/BluRay disks, some Netflix and other streaming services.

For special things like the recent SpaceX Crew Dragon launch and docking at the ISS, I'll watch a streaming channel like NASA-TV.

The major networks just seem to not have anything I'm really interested in seeing anymore.  It's always been crap with a few nuggets, but it seems like the nuggets are fewer and farther between, and less lustrous.  I started watching Bob Hearts Abishola because I liked the premise, and it was pretty good for a few episodes, but it just seemed to be heading the same way as Moonlighting and other series where the main characters have chemistry between them and it is all going to go downhill when they end up together.

I also watch some sailing vlogs on YouTube.   But I avoid the ones that go for cheap clicks by having nudity in them even if it's blurred out.  While I don't care for Greta Thunberg's histrionics, the series of videos where she is sailed back across the Atlantic by Elayna and Riley on La Vagabonde was pretty interesting.  That's because they mostly avoided politics and focused on the here and now in the videos (though they did interview her during the voyage about climate change).

I also like Adventures of an Old Sea Dog, Adventures of Tarka, Wind Hippie Sailing, Sailing Uma, Sam Holmes Sailing, and a few others.
 
2020-06-03 8:42:51 AM  

JAGChem82: baorao: [Fark user image image 425x281]
I fully support his decision.

I hope to God that is a photoshop and not a real tattoo.


it's real. and it's spectacular.

https://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2017/04/​2​8/Man-gets-unusual-tattoo-tribute-to-L​aw-Order-SVU/5831493387979/
 
2020-06-03 8:54:01 AM  

cman: Super_pope: Police shows (and that character in particular) have done a lot to help form our current police archetype.  Totally farking nuts and out of control because they hate crime SO MUCH.

It's almost more toxic than the general deification of police and the military

Better watch out who you say that to

I heard this one cop named Vic Mackey is a real asshole


You're thinking of Mack Vickey.
 
2020-06-03 8:55:10 AM  
He said he would shoot looters if they tried to break into his house.

No part of that is racist.

Hell, why is subby assuming that all looters are black?  That's pretty farking racist right there.
 
2020-06-03 9:01:58 AM  
As things go, that was a nothing thing to post.
 
2020-06-03 9:10:33 AM  

Bslim: Great, now see if you can try to make an effort to make your shows less copsucking propaganda. Chicago PD is should be renamed Chicago PB on account of the non-stop brutality.


FBI somehow gets to be even worse.
 
2020-06-03 9:12:04 AM  

RussianPotato: He said he would shoot looters if they tried to break into his house.

No part of that is racist.

Hell, why is subby assuming that all looters are black?  That's pretty farking racist right there.


It's not racist but it is supporting premeditated murder so I am guessing a producer for a police procedural show should not have done that.
 
2020-06-03 9:12:30 AM  

RussianPotato: He said he would shoot looters if they tried to break into his house.

No part of that is racist.

Hell, why is subby assuming that all looters are black?  That's pretty farking racist right there.


He didn't threaten to shoot looters he posed for a farkign vanity photo of him holding his goddamn binky. No farking looters are checking farking twitter and are like, hey you know what let's skip this house.

He's a little biatch who thinks posing for photos with his gun makes him look manly because aparently his sleeve tattoos didn't do the trick. Why won't people act like he;s manly? WHY?

He is pushing a flase narrative that private residences are being targeted by looters.

So he's being an man child and fanning the flames at a really bad time to act like that. fark him.
 
2020-06-03 9:14:51 AM  

jso2897: cman: Super_pope: Police shows (and that character in particular) have done a lot to help form our current police archetype.  Totally farking nuts and out of control because they hate crime SO MUCH.

It's almost more toxic than the general deification of police and the military

Better watch out who you say that to

I heard this one cop named Vic Mackey is a real asshole

You're thinking of Mack Vickey.


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2020-06-03 9:26:01 AM  
It's Fired Culture gone mad
 
2020-06-03 10:02:14 AM  

OtherLittleGuy: He'll be hired by Blue Bloods.

Book it, done.


The most racist show on television.  farking cop propaganda.
 
2020-06-03 11:07:34 AM  

jake_lex: Rapmaster2000: OtherLittleGuy: He'll be hired by Blue Bloods.

Book it, done.

The only thing I watch on CBS is "Price is Right", so I get to see ads for the CBS lineup.  Every show on CBS is some cop/military drama - sometimes both at once.  Every preview has someone yelling into a walkie talkie and then an explosion.  And they're all filmed in these sepia tones that look ridiculous.

I don't get the NCIS franchise at all.  As I understand it, the Naval Criminal Investigative Service is supposed to investigate crimes involving members of either the US Navy or the US Marine Corps.  These shows make it seem like they can just investigate -- anything.  Like they have jurisdiction over the crime if the victim or suspect was ever on a boat at some point, or saw "Full Metal Jacket."


NCIS:Original Recipe mostly follows the premise of investigating Navy or Marine crime. The NCIS:LA team is always caught up in some GWoT theme or another. And NCIS:New Orleans seems to have lost their shiat entirely. As far as I can tell from half watching it, since my wife loves that shiat and I have a laptop to distract me, is that they've gone deep into Scott Bakula's characters career issues and lost all interest in crime fighting stories.
 
2020-06-03 11:19:55 AM  
SVU is a totally fine background noise show. It was fairly decent till they got rid of ADA Barba. Since then the cast feels off. The actor that plays Carisi doesn't pull off the lawyer vibe. I assume the cast is shrinking because Mariska does everything on the show and eats up all the costs since she's been there since the beginning.
 
2020-06-03 11:31:10 AM  

Susan'sLittleAdamsApple: RussianPotato: He said he would shoot looters if they tried to break into his house.

No part of that is racist.

Hell, why is subby assuming that all looters are black?  That's pretty farking racist right there.

It's not racist but it is supporting premeditated murder so I am guessing a producer for a police procedural show should not have done that.


Always being ready to protect ones life and property, as far as I know, has never been considered premeditated, especially given the public discourse right now. Granted some states do not recognize the castle doctrine

And yes, everyone should have that mindset. Protect yourselves and your family and the property you have worked for. Hell, even if you didn't work for it and it was passed down from a deceased parent/relative. Its yours and you have the right to protect it. Even from angry protestors/agitators.

The only location that seems to be mentioned is Sunset, which one could assume is not Florida, even tho the same would be still true. California recognizes the Castle Doctrine, so home owners can get all shooty or even stabby, if the are protecting their home from an intruder.

Some states are more liberal with how the view the castle doctrine, while some are more conservative. Try to not let those terms confuse you as to their meaning.
 
2020-06-03 12:00:43 PM  

stoli n coke: Don't post anything to social media that you wouldn't want to get back to your boss. Why is that so hard to understand?


Stop. Stop giving assh*les advice on how to hide their assh*leness. Let them keep blatantly outing themselves so we don't have to do it for them.

Especially racist assh*les, which honestly is a redundant phrase anyway.
 
2020-06-03 12:06:24 PM  
Dick Wolf fires Law & Order writer over racist alt-right Facebook post. DUN DUN

It is clearly "DUNK-DUNK"
 
2020-06-03 12:30:44 PM  

xxBirdMadGirlxx: stoli n coke: Don't post anything to social media that you wouldn't want to get back to your boss. Why is that so hard to understand?

Stop. Stop giving assh*les advice on how to hide their assh*leness. Let them keep blatantly outing themselves so we don't have to do it for them.

Especially racist assh*les, which honestly is a redundant phrase anyway.


Times like these make it easy to weed out the racists from your feeds.  I don't mind one bit.
 
2020-06-03 12:55:37 PM  

baorao: [Fark user image 425x281]
I fully support his decision.


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2020-06-03 12:56:21 PM  

Mega Steve: Dick Wolf fires Law & Order writer over racist alt-right Facebook post. DUN DUN

It is clearly "DUNK-DUNK"


No, it's "Ki Ki Ki... Ma Ma Ma..." How do people still not know this?
 
2020-06-03 12:57:53 PM  
LA douchebro wanted to look tough for the 'gram and ate shiat for it. Nothing of value was lost.

Likewise, either that weapon was in violation of state law (as suppressor's are generally illegal to possess in CA), or he had a fake suppressor on the gun (making it more difficult to properly aim and balance) just to look cool. The dumb keymod handguard doesn't help, and I'm not sure why the iron sights are deployed if the optic is working as that's only going to disrupt the sight picture.
 
2020-06-03 1:22:12 PM  

Super_pope: Police shows (and that character in particular) have done a lot to help form our current police archetype.  Totally farking nuts and out of control because they hate crime SO MUCH.

It's almost more toxic than the general deification of police and the military


Yep, and remember, only guilty people ask for a lawyer, criminals that the police just know for a fact are guilty get off all the time on silly technicalities (like having their civil rights violated), all the people they brow beat into plea bargains are actually guilty and, most importantly, Internal Affairs are always the scummy, bad guy, traitor cops who have the audacity to investigate misconduct of the good guy police officers (you know, like being caught on film murdering a black guy in custody).

In fact, here's an idea.  How about a police procedural that follows an Internal Affairs team as the protagonists and they go around investigating and bringing down corrupt and abusive cops?  You could even pull a lot of the stories right from the headlines as these shows love to do.  Although, I guess it might be a bit repetitive when every show starts off with:

Detective 1: Victim is an unarmed black man killed in police custody.
Detective 2: Seriously?!? A-farking-gain!?!?!  Did it caught on video?
Detective 1: Well, the body cams of all the officers in the vicinity were mysteriously malfunctioning, but several bystanders caught it on video before getting attacked and arrested by the officers for filming them.
Detective 2: But that's not illegal.
Detective 1: Arrest report indicates they were resisting arrest.  What a coincidence, that's the only charge they reported against the victim.
Detective 2: Resisting an arrest for what?
Detective 1: It doesn't matter, we have to spend the rest of the episode trying to convince the DA to file charges, which they won't do because prosecutors and police are "on the same team" which seems kind of farked up.

Okay, maybe it wouldn't make great television.  Maybe try throwing in some catchphrases or something.  Perhaps make Detective 2 a spicy Latina or sassy black woman.
 
2020-06-03 4:51:47 PM  

razyjean: Bslim: Great, now see if you can try to make an effort to make your shows less copsucking propaganda. Chicago PD is should be renamed Chicago PB on account of the non-stop brutality.

Why does everyone in Chicago have such a gravely voice?

The beauty of original L&O, and the earlier (Stabler) episodes of SVU, was that they were about the cases, not the characters. I really miss that. I liked that character traits were revealed subtly, in 30-second conversations, rather than dedicating entire episodes to the personal lives of the detectives. I didn't realize Ed Green had a gambling problem until I had seen certain episodes multiple times, for example.


Original Recipe L&O has absolutely nothing in common with any of the shows that spun off from that world, or even late season L&O.

The characters fundamentally had no personal lives, the ADA left to become a defense lawyer because the justice system was too racist, mistakes were made ALL the time, etc.

Later on it turned weirdly soapy (especially in the spinoffs) and became pure copaganda.

I still wish Homicide would become available streaming with original soundtrack, the first 3 seasons are amazing.
 
2020-06-03 6:00:40 PM  

brizzle365: Susan'sLittleAdamsApple: RussianPotato: He said he would shoot looters if they tried to break into his house.

No part of that is racist.

Hell, why is subby assuming that all looters are black?  That's pretty farking racist right there.

It's not racist but it is supporting premeditated murder so I am guessing a producer for a police procedural show should not have done that.

Always being ready to protect ones life and property, as far as I know, has never been considered premeditated, especially given the public discourse right now. Granted some states do not recognize the castle doctrine

And yes, everyone should have that mindset. Protect yourselves and your family and the property you have worked for. Hell, even if you didn't work for it and it was passed down from a deceased parent/relative. Its yours and you have the right to protect it. Even from angry protestors/agitators.

The only location that seems to be mentioned is Sunset, which one could assume is not Florida, even tho the same would be still true. California recognizes the Castle Doctrine, so home owners can get all shooty or even stabby, if the are protecting their home from an intruder.

Some states are more liberal with how the view the castle doctrine, while some are more conservative. Try to not let those terms confuse you as to their meaning.


The confusion seems to be that there is nothing wrong with protecting your life with force within your home which is what the principles of the castle doctrine is all about but that does not mean you can threaten to kill someone for damaging or stealing your property and saying so outloud or on social media can lead to a premeditated murder charge should someone try to rob you and you kill them.  Castle doctrine is a principal not a law but threatening to kill someone in public is rather against the law.  So anyone dumb enough to pepper their social media with such should be ready to face consequences.
 
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