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2020-06-03 3:38:38 AM  
39 votes:

GreenSun: Before you support these riots and looting, THINK ABOUT THE EMPLOYEES, THE FAMILIES, THE CHILDREN, THE PEOPLE WHO COUNT ON THEIR WORK TO SURVIVE.


Fark off. No one supports looting. No one is here saying, "it sure is great that businesses are being looted and destroyed." The only people supporting that shiat are accelerationist assholes, who incidentally are not protesting anything. Depending on the flavor of accelerationist, they are either trying to hurt the protest movement or hurt the country for unrelated reasons.

Blaming people supportive of the protests, or blaming the cause itself, or even trying to create a false equivalency between the evil of systemic racism and the incidental property damage from protests, is disingenuous bullshiat. Just say you don't think people dying at the hands of the state is worth causing a fuss over and get out.
 
2020-06-03 2:37:15 AM  
26 votes:

Palined Parenthood: THATS WHY I ONLY SHOP AT WALMART'S NOT LIBSTROMS


Wish this was funny. But in your farked up country, there's a large percentage of people who would say this and mean it.

/sadly, there's a smaller but non-zero percentage of the same assholes in my country
 
2020-06-03 3:51:16 AM  
23 votes:

GreenSun: No, I am NOT a Trump supporter. Just because I don't support the rioters, looters, and criminals doesn't make me a Trump supporter.

There are peaceful protestors out there and they're getting the message across. Why destroy businesses and harm innocent people?

In the news, there are a lot of features about cops joining the peaceful protests. Why can't it be like that everywhere else?

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020​/05/31/i-took-helmet-and-laid-batons-d​own-michigan-sheriff-and-police-didnt-​disperse-their

In some places, protestors are trying to stop the violent types of protestors from destroying businesses. Even a young teen was able to help lead a protest to end into a peaceful one with nobody harmed and no businesses destroyed.

https://people.com/human-interest/16-y​ear-old-praised-for-leading-peaceful-p​rotests-detroit/

People have a choice in how they wish to protest. They can do it peacefully or violently at the cost of other people's safety and livelihood.

Have you ever thought about what would happen if the rioters destroyed your place of work, stole your stuff, broke into your home and beat you up? Would you still say it's justified that they destroyed your livelihood or ability to earn an income for your family? Would you say it's justified that they stole all the things that you worked hard for? Would you say it's justified that you or your family were beaten or killed when you tried to defend yourselves and your property?

It's so easy to say you support these violent rioters when you're not on the receiving end of their violence.


No one is supporting the rioters, looters, and criminals so your post kind of seems pointless.
 
2020-06-03 3:10:51 AM  
23 votes:
That's a nice change from the usual "property damage is a far more serious crime than all these black people getting murdered by  police all the time, therefore all the protests are automatically invalid and all participants should be arrested and locked up for life" messages we've been getting lately from totally-not-trolls.
 
2020-06-03 3:02:54 AM  
22 votes:
I tend to think of Nordstrom as a pretentious store for rich assholes, but that's pretty decent of them.
 
2020-06-03 3:35:42 AM  
20 votes:

GreenSun: "I am angry because something terrible is happening, so I'll just go destroy other people's livelihoods or harm innocents because causing pain and destruction on others will surely solve the problem!"

Hey, if Nord doesn't care about their business being destroyed and their merchandise being stolen, well that's them. I wonder what happens to their employees who actually used to work there but can't do so anymore. Sure hope Nord will pay these people some money to tide them over while Nord rebuilds their wrecked workplaces for these people.

Sure hope small businesses owned by locals and families are prepared to have their businesses destroyed and their means of income stolen. They don't have the same financial power as a big company as Nord which can shrug off a destroyed shop or two.

https://www.nbc12.com/2020/05/30/its-n​ot-fair-business-owners-clean-up-after​-overnight-protests/

Before you support these riots and looting, THINK ABOUT THE EMPLOYEES, THE FAMILIES, THE CHILDREN, THE PEOPLE WHO COUNT ON THEIR WORK TO SURVIVE.

George Floyd died because a nasty evil cop decided to kill him. How does this entitle you to destroying other innocent lives? You're no different than the evil cop you are supposed to be protesting against. If you truly believe that destroying people's businesses, livelihoods, and homes and harming innocents is what will finally bring justice and bring down racism in the US, then you are a heartless, cruel person with a delusional mind.


?????

Serious question,
You think society, this society, doesn't enable that cop and other cops to kill people, was pretty much impunity?
 
2020-06-03 3:54:23 AM  
17 votes:
Old accounts that have haven't had a presence on fark forums seem to be popping up a lot lately. Odd.
 
2020-06-03 4:05:43 AM  
16 votes:

GreenSun: "I am angry because something terrible is happening, so I'll just go destroy other people's livelihoods or harm innocents because causing pain and destruction on others will surely solve the problem!"

Hey, if Nord doesn't care about their business being destroyed and their merchandise being stolen, well that's them. I wonder what happens to their employees who actually used to work there but can't do so anymore. Sure hope Nord will pay these people some money to tide them over while Nord rebuilds their wrecked workplaces for these people.

Sure hope small businesses owned by locals and families are prepared to have their businesses destroyed and their means of income stolen. They don't have the same financial power as a big company as Nord which can shrug off a destroyed shop or two.

https://www.nbc12.com/2020/05/30/its-n​ot-fair-business-owners-clean-up-after​-overnight-protests/

Before you support these riots and looting, THINK ABOUT THE EMPLOYEES, THE FAMILIES, THE CHILDREN, THE PEOPLE WHO COUNT ON THEIR WORK TO SURVIVE.

George Floyd died because a nasty evil cop decided to kill him. How does this entitle you to destroying other innocent lives? You're no different than the evil cop you are supposed to be protesting against. If you truly believe that destroying people's businesses, livelihoods, and homes and harming innocents is what will finally bring justice and bring down racism in the US, then you are a heartless, cruel person with a delusional mind.


Loosen your deathgrip from those pearls Karen.
 
2020-06-03 2:35:03 AM  
15 votes:
Spiffy, certainly.

Hero? Sure, Jan.
 
2020-06-03 3:55:16 AM  
14 votes:

GreenSun: It's so easy to say you support these violent rioters when you're not on the receiving end of their violence.


Who do you imagine you're talking to?
 
2020-06-03 3:57:11 AM  
12 votes:

GreenSun: It's so easy to say you support these violent rioters when you're not on the receiving end of their violence.


And it's easy to love the police, when it's your neck that will never be knelt on.

People, in this nation could have lifted up a football player that peacefully knelt.
It did not. Especially the man our electoral college put in charge.

Why exactly do you think society can poop on it's own citizens and it not effect alllllll citizens????
If the police can kill this man or that man what is keeping them from killing me or you? Nothing.


Do you think slaves that killed slave masters was in the wrong?
Should have natives Never killed a pioneer?
Why is violence done by the government okay, but, responding with violence wrong?
WTF?
What kind of hypocrisy is that?
 
2020-06-03 3:31:22 AM  
11 votes:
"I am angry because something terrible is happening, so I'll just go destroy other people's livelihoods or harm innocents because causing pain and destruction on others will surely solve the problem!"

Hey, if Nord doesn't care about their business being destroyed and their merchandise being stolen, well that's them. I wonder what happens to their employees who actually used to work there but can't do so anymore. Sure hope Nord will pay these people some money to tide them over while Nord rebuilds their wrecked workplaces for these people.

Sure hope small businesses owned by locals and families are prepared to have their businesses destroyed and their means of income stolen. They don't have the same financial power as a big company as Nord which can shrug off a destroyed shop or two.

https://www.nbc12.com/2020/05/30/its-​n​ot-fair-business-owners-clean-up-after​-overnight-protests/

Before you support these riots and looting, THINK ABOUT THE EMPLOYEES, THE FAMILIES, THE CHILDREN, THE PEOPLE WHO COUNT ON THEIR WORK TO SURVIVE.

George Floyd died because a nasty evil cop decided to kill him. How does this entitle you to destroying other innocent lives? You're no different than the evil cop you are supposed to be protesting against. If you truly believe that destroying people's businesses, livelihoods, and homes and harming innocents is what will finally bring justice and bring down racism in the US, then you are a heartless, cruel person with a delusional mind.
 
2020-06-03 4:27:21 AM  
10 votes:
WHY DO YOU HATE FREEDOM


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2020-06-03 3:23:56 AM  
10 votes:
PS: Buy our products because after a week we have discussed things with shareholders and see free profit in meaningless social media platitudes.
Corporations are not people and they are not your friends.
 
2020-06-03 2:53:25 AM  
9 votes:
It would be nice if more companies would announce the causes they support so I know when and where I can loot responsibly.
 
2020-06-03 6:31:22 AM  
8 votes:

GreenSun: No, I am NOT a Trump supporter. Just because I don't support the rioters, looters, and criminals doesn't make me a Trump supporter.

There are peaceful protestors out there and they're getting the message across. Why destroy businesses and harm innocent people?

In the news, there are a lot of features about cops joining the peaceful protests. Why can't it be like that everywhere else?

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020​/05/31/i-took-helmet-and-laid-batons-d​own-michigan-sheriff-and-police-didnt-​disperse-their

In some places, protestors are trying to stop the violent types of protestors from destroying businesses. Even a young teen was able to help lead a protest to end into a peaceful one with nobody harmed and no businesses destroyed.

https://people.com/human-interest/16-y​ear-old-praised-for-leading-peaceful-p​rotests-detroit/

People have a choice in how they wish to protest. They can do it peacefully or violently at the cost of other people's safety and livelihood.

Have you ever thought about what would happen if the rioters destroyed your place of work, stole your stuff, broke into your home and beat you up? Would you still say it's justified that they destroyed your livelihood or ability to earn an income for your family? Would you say it's justified that they stole all the things that you worked hard for? Would you say it's justified that you or your family were beaten or killed when you tried to defend yourselves and your property?

It's so easy to say you support these violent rioters when you're not on the receiving end of their violence.


I'm a black man and I'm in the Army. The Army has programs to help me get on my feet if my stuff Is lost to fire plus I have insurance. So I could care less if my stuff is looted. There's a couple things truly irreplaceable in my home, like stuff we obtained from when my mother in law passed, other than that, no one cares.

It should be noted, my wife and I were pretty anti consumerist when this started so...we make it a point  to not get attached to stuff.

Just so you know, "what if your stuff is lost" isn't the slam dunk argument you think it is, there is a strong backlash towards overvaluing possessions in this country. Despite the country's reputation for being consumerist, there are a lot of people who aren't out there hoarding crap.
 
2020-06-03 3:44:22 AM  
8 votes:

GreenSun: Hey, if Nord doesn't care about their business being destroyed and their merchandise being stolen, well that's them. I wonder what happens to their employees who actually used to work there but can't do so anymore. Sure hope Nord will pay these people some money to tide them over while Nord rebuilds their wrecked workplaces for these people.


Oh yeah, and also, Nordstrom was already closed because of the coronavirus. I'm sure whatever assistance they were giving the employees who couldn't come to work can still be provided. So... *jerk off motion*
 
2020-06-03 6:43:17 AM  
7 votes:
I'm wondering if some of the people bemoaning property damage are assuming that everyone else is as underinsured as they are.  I'm begging someone to loot my truck.  My comprehensive deductible is $250 and the AC just quit working. Please come loot it. It just sits in the driveway most of the time anyway.

You can loot 99% of my shiat.  With homeowners insurance, I can get better shiat.
 
2020-06-03 6:42:57 AM  
7 votes:

bfh0417: Then the protestors need to call out the looters very loudly.


1. Why? Why is that their responsibility? 2. How loudly? Should they be calling it out more loudly than their actual message? 3. If they had farking megaphones and shouted "don't loot" every 10 seconds do you really think that would make a difference to the people criticizing them?
 
2020-06-03 4:19:19 AM  
7 votes:
Cynical Me: Nordies says, "Here we are stuck in an endless quarantine and we'll have to fight for every cent from our insurer. Along comes a riot and we'll get a big check for the remodeling property damage and the merchandise that was otherwise rotting on the racks. Looters, don't forget our downtown Seattle location!"
 
2020-06-03 3:36:59 AM  
7 votes:
Target announced in much the same vein that they'd repair and reopen the Lake Street store.

Maybe not the best idea numbers wise, but a great idea social fabric wise.
 
2020-06-03 2:59:05 AM  
7 votes:

Tom Marvolo Bombadil: It would be nice if more companies would announce the causes they support so I know when and where I can loot responsibly.


https://www.buycott.com/
 
2020-06-03 7:20:36 AM  
6 votes:

Tommy Moo: Cool, so everything's free at Nordstrom's now, right? Guess I'll help myself to a new suit, seeing as they don't mind.

How much of a biatch do you have to be to turn around and bow and thank the people who just robbed you? Seriously, here's Nordstrom's right now:

[Fark user image 688x687]


I'm just assuming everyone stopped responding to try and figure out what you're trying to say... Nordstrom's right now is two young people kissing? I'm dumb I guess, because I have no idea what that is supposed to mean.
 
2020-06-03 4:23:31 AM  
6 votes:
RIOTS MAKE AMERICA GREAT.

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2020-06-03 4:17:55 AM  
6 votes:

Conservative Evangelical Millennial Cyclist: Old accounts that have haven't had a presence on fark forums seem to be popping up a lot lately. Odd.


I'm just a lurker, but yeah it's so weird how these accounts pop up in election years and spew disingenuous garbage.
 
2020-06-03 7:18:06 AM  
5 votes:

Tommy Moo: Cool, so everything's free at Nordstrom's now, right? Guess I'll help myself to a new suit, seeing as they don't mind.

How much of a biatch do you have to be to turn around and bow and thank the people who just robbed you? Seriously, here's Nordstrom's right now:

[Fark user image image 688x687]


Nordstrom gets to claim insurance for the full retail value of merchandise they would have had to sell at a significant discount.

They'd probably love it if you looted them right now.  Throw them in the briar patch while you're there to show them what biatches they are.
 
2020-06-03 5:00:45 AM  
5 votes:

poodebunker: Conservative Evangelical Millennial Cyclist: Old accounts that have haven't had a presence on fark forums seem to be popping up a lot lately. Odd.

Stalker much? Whatcha doin' checking on how old an account is nosy?


That doesn't make him wrong.
 
2020-06-03 7:54:46 AM  
4 votes:
If it takes fires and looting to get folks' attention, well then that's what needs to happen.

For over 50 years you have voted in people who promise the world and deliver...well, racist police departments.
You want to fix that?  Vote for someone else.  Even someone you don't like is going to do at least as bad a job- no worse, because that's not possible.  Maybe even a better job to actually earn your next vote instead of just taking it for granted you are too stupid to know what's up.
 
2020-06-03 3:38:59 AM  
4 votes:

GreenSun: "I am angry because something terrible is happening, so I'll just go destroy other people's livelihoods or harm innocents because causing pain and destruction on others will surely solve the problem!"

Hey, if Nord doesn't care about their business being destroyed and their merchandise being stolen, well that's them. I wonder what happens to their employees who actually used to work there but can't do so anymore. Sure hope Nord will pay these people some money to tide them over while Nord rebuilds their wrecked workplaces for these people.

Sure hope small businesses owned by locals and families are prepared to have their businesses destroyed and their means of income stolen. They don't have the same financial power as a big company as Nord which can shrug off a destroyed shop or two.

https://www.nbc12.com/2020/05/30/its-n​ot-fair-business-owners-clean-up-after​-overnight-protests/

Before you support these riots and looting, THINK ABOUT THE EMPLOYEES, THE FAMILIES, THE CHILDREN, THE PEOPLE WHO COUNT ON THEIR WORK TO SURVIVE.

George Floyd died because a nasty evil cop decided to kill him. How does this entitle you to destroying other innocent lives? You're no different than the evil cop you are supposed to be protesting against. If you truly believe that destroying people's businesses, livelihoods, and homes and harming innocents is what will finally bring justice and bring down racism in the US, then you are a heartless, cruel person with a delusional mind.


I'm not going to comment on the contents of your post.

I did want to make a more general comment that it's funny how then the first three or four lines of your post I was pretty sure of what your political orientation is. Which is almost definitely not bleeding heart liberal.

Facts and realities that people see and State are driven almost entirely by their political affiliations, which in turn drives the reality that is presented to them.

It's a fascinating and disturbing phenomenon
 
2020-06-03 2:52:57 AM  
4 votes:

Palined Parenthood: GrendelMk1: Palined Parenthood: THATS WHY I ONLY SHOP AT WALMART'S NOT LIBSTROMS

Wish this was funny. But in your farked up country, there's a large percentage of people who would say this and mean it.

/sadly, there's a smaller but non-zero percentage of the same assholes in my country

¡Es por eso que compro en Wal-Mart en lugar de Nordstrom!


That looks like google translate.
 
2020-06-03 7:48:25 AM  
3 votes:

chipaku: I remember when photoshop threads would routinely get into the hundreds of posts. Fun times.


Hundreds of posts and sometimes nearly all them very funny. I miss that very much.
 
2020-06-03 3:47:25 AM  
3 votes:
No, I am NOT a Trump supporter. Just because I don't support the rioters, looters, and criminals doesn't make me a Trump supporter.

There are peaceful protestors out there and they're getting the message across. Why destroy businesses and harm innocent people?

In the news, there are a lot of features about cops joining the peaceful protests. Why can't it be like that everywhere else?

https://www.commondreams.org/news/202​0​/05/31/i-took-helmet-and-laid-batons-d​own-michigan-sheriff-and-police-didnt-​disperse-their

In some places, protestors are trying to stop the violent types of protestors from destroying businesses. Even a young teen was able to help lead a protest to end into a peaceful one with nobody harmed and no businesses destroyed.

https://people.com/human-interest/16-​y​ear-old-praised-for-leading-peaceful-p​rotests-detroit/

People have a choice in how they wish to protest. They can do it peacefully or violently at the cost of other people's safety and livelihood.

Have you ever thought about what would happen if the rioters destroyed your place of work, stole your stuff, broke into your home and beat you up? Would you still say it's justified that they destroyed your livelihood or ability to earn an income for your family? Would you say it's justified that they stole all the things that you worked hard for? Would you say it's justified that you or your family were beaten or killed when you tried to defend yourselves and your property?

It's so easy to say you support these violent rioters when you're not on the receiving end of their violence.
 
2020-06-03 11:48:57 AM  
2 votes:

Steakzilla: Dude, Fark is a place where people can post fairly anonymously... Why bother responding to people if you're just going to call them liars?


A couple of reasons. The first being the insinuation that I was only posting because it was an election year. No only was the statement false, but it was an attempt at using the falsehood to delegitimize my answer to the question. Not responding would have allowed that delegitimization to stand.

Secondly and more importantly, by expanding upon my reasons for the answer I was able to spark an actual constructive conversation with another Farker who actually took the time to read my posts. More importantly, that farker began the conversation with a tone that indicated they did not see me as an "enemy" to be defeated in debate, but rather as another participant in the conversation.

This allowed us both to explore our opinions on the issue, come to some points we agree upon and some points we disagree upon. I believe both of us came out of the exchange with more to think about. So in the end, I feel, responding to someone in the way I did produced an over all good that simply calling them a liar would not have.
 
2020-06-03 8:57:47 AM  
2 votes:

CanisNoir: Nope, just disheartened enough after participating in a completely peaceful protest last night to come on and discover a business bending over to mob violence out of fear.


Sure, Jan.
 
2020-06-03 7:31:51 AM  
2 votes:

Original: Original Tweet:


Translation:  The insurance check covered the damages.  Sucks that rest of you will get rate hikes, but at least we can virtue signal.
 
2020-06-03 7:04:22 AM  
2 votes:

bfh0417: Bslim: GreenSun: "I am angry because something terrible is happening, so I'll just go destroy other people's livelihoods or harm innocents because causing pain and destruction on others will surely solve the problem!"

Hey, if Nord doesn't care about their business being destroyed and their merchandise being stolen, well that's them. I wonder what happens to their employees who actually used to work there but can't do so anymore. Sure hope Nord will pay these people some money to tide them over while Nord rebuilds their wrecked workplaces for these people.

Sure hope small businesses owned by locals and families are prepared to have their businesses destroyed and their means of income stolen. They don't have the same financial power as a big company as Nord which can shrug off a destroyed shop or two.

https://www.nbc12.com/2020/05/30/its-n​ot-fair-business-owners-clean-up-after​-overnight-protests/

Before you support these riots and looting, THINK ABOUT THE EMPLOYEES, THE FAMILIES, THE CHILDREN, THE PEOPLE WHO COUNT ON THEIR WORK TO SURVIVE.

George Floyd died because a nasty evil cop decided to kill him. How does this entitle you to destroying other innocent lives? You're no different than the evil cop you are supposed to be protesting against. If you truly believe that destroying people's businesses, livelihoods, and homes and harming innocents is what will finally bring justice and bring down racism in the US, then you are a heartless, cruel person with a delusional mind.

Protesters are protesters and looters are criminals. One is exercising their constitutional rights (you know, the one with more than that Second one you loooove) the other is committing a crime. But you know the difference, dontcha?

Then the protestors need to call out the looters very loudly. But they won't because the violence keeps the media interested. Without it, this is a week's worth of news at best.


Protesters don't need to do SQUAT.
Just like gun owners double down on their rights every time one of them commits an act of terrorism on the rest of the unarmed population.

See how that works?  Same Bill of Rights, skippy.
 
2020-06-03 6:53:52 AM  
2 votes:
Their PR department knows what they're doing.
 
2020-06-03 6:30:29 AM  
2 votes:

chipaku: sex_and_drugs_for_ian: At times it seemed that people here were actually going out of their way to hurt my feelings.

Man, the flame wars back then were epic 😂

I remember when photoshop threads would routinely get into the hundreds of posts. Fun times.


Cool belt onion, grandpa...
 
2020-06-03 5:56:27 AM  
2 votes:

mrshowrules: GreenSun: No, I am NOT a Trump supporter. Just because I don't support the rioters, looters, and criminals doesn't make me a Trump supporter.

There are peaceful protestors out there and they're getting the message across. Why destroy businesses and harm innocent people?

In the news, there are a lot of features about cops joining the peaceful protests. Why can't it be like that everywhere else?

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020​/05/31/i-took-helmet-and-laid-batons-d​own-michigan-sheriff-and-police-didnt-​disperse-their

In some places, protestors are trying to stop the violent types of protestors from destroying businesses. Even a young teen was able to help lead a protest to end into a peaceful one with nobody harmed and no businesses destroyed.

https://people.com/human-interest/16-y​ear-old-praised-for-leading-peaceful-p​rotests-detroit/

People have a choice in how they wish to protest. They can do it peacefully or violently at the cost of other people's safety and livelihood.

Have you ever thought about what would happen if the rioters destroyed your place of work, stole your stuff, broke into your home and beat you up? Would you still say it's justified that they destroyed your livelihood or ability to earn an income for your family? Would you say it's justified that they stole all the things that you worked hard for? Would you say it's justified that you or your family were beaten or killed when you tried to defend yourselves and your property?

It's so easy to say you support these violent rioters when you're not on the receiving end of their violence.

No one is supporting the rioters, looters, and criminals so your post kind of seems pointless.


You should check out many of the supporting comments here on Fark.
 
2020-06-03 5:21:40 AM  
2 votes:

Alien Robot: https://www.liveleak.com/v?t=4r6sfxaw

https://www.liveleak.com/v?t=rdvn4b13


Thanks, Anton Ponomarev.

This thread has more plants than a greenhouse.
 
2020-06-03 4:38:01 AM  
2 votes:

sex_and_drugs_for_ian: Not saying you're wrong, but you've got to name names if you're going to throw that out there.


Some people just don't use their accounts for long periods of time. The internet is a big place.

People who complain about old accounts are usually noobs who don't even know what fark was like back in the day. It was basically 4chan lite.
 
2020-06-03 4:24:00 AM  
2 votes:

waxbeans: notgonnatellu: Funny how the analogy pre-riots but post-covid (2020PC-2020PR) is that we're the country wearing swap meet polyester with a brand new Gucci belt. Or something like that.

LOL

Meanwhile.

I've found Gucci shoes in the trash at the car wash next door.
In the box and everything.

Does this happen in other nations? Seriously! Or is that a America thing?


People get pissed off at their significant others in every country.  We may speak different languages and pray to different gods, but our ability to spite our significant others is universal.
 
2020-06-03 4:21:41 AM  
2 votes:

Conservative Evangelical Millennial Cyclist: Old accounts that have haven't had a presence on fark forums seem to be popping up a lot lately. Odd.


You aren't even a TFer, you have no valid opinion on the matter, freeloader
 
2020-06-03 3:41:29 AM  
2 votes:

NobleHam: I tend to think of Nordstrom as a pretentious store for rich assholes, but that's pretty decent of them.


It seemed like a token statement but perhaps more.  That they thought  "tremendous change" was necessary was a good point.
 
2020-06-03 2:47:10 AM  
2 votes:

red5ish: [Fark user image 600x405]


MOTHERF*CKER
 
2020-06-02 9:29:29 PM  
2 votes:
THATS WHY I ONLY SHOP AT WALMART'S NOT LIBSTROMS
 
2020-06-03 6:56:20 PM  
1 vote:

WhoGAS: Lots of election year trolls popping up.

Protester does not equal looter.  We can support the protesters and condemn the looters.  This shouldn't be a dem vs rep thing.  Forget your politics and remember that you're a human first.  If you still feel that people supporting the protesters are wrong, then you may just be an asshole regardless of your political leanings.


I haven't seen even one person say protesting is wrong.  Not a single one.
 
2020-06-03 1:10:11 PM  
1 vote:

GreenSun: No, I am NOT a Trump supporter. Just because I don't support the rioters, looters, and criminals doesn't make me a Trump supporter.

There are peaceful protestors out there and they're getting the message across. Why destroy businesses and harm innocent people?

In the news, there are a lot of features about cops joining the peaceful protests. Why can't it be like that everywhere else?

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020​/05/31/i-took-helmet-and-laid-batons-d​own-michigan-sheriff-and-police-didnt-​disperse-their

In some places, protestors are trying to stop the violent types of protestors from destroying businesses. Even a young teen was able to help lead a protest to end into a peaceful one with nobody harmed and no businesses destroyed.

https://people.com/human-interest/16-y​ear-old-praised-for-leading-peaceful-p​rotests-detroit/

People have a choice in how they wish to protest. They can do it peacefully or violently at the cost of other people's safety and livelihood.

Have you ever thought about what would happen if the rioters destroyed your place of work, stole your stuff, broke into your home and beat you up? Would you still say it's justified that they destroyed your livelihood or ability to earn an income for your family? Would you say it's justified that they stole all the things that you worked hard for? Would you say it's justified that you or your family were beaten or killed when you tried to defend yourselves and your property?

It's so easy to say you support these violent rioters when you're not on the receiving end of their violence.


I don't get targeted by protestors because I'm supporting them. I don't get targeted by right-wing provocateurs because I'm large and I look like a crazy person.

So I guess you just need some empathy and not to look like such an easy target and you'll be able to live without fear.
 
2020-06-03 11:41:47 AM  
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Sean VasDeferens: You should check out many of the supporting comments here on Fark.


If someone is condoning looting and arson, call them out but don't conflate it with the peaceful protests or civil disobedience.
 
2020-06-03 11:32:21 AM  
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Rapmaster2000: CanisNoir: Nope, just disheartened enough after participating in a completely peaceful protest last night to come on and discover a business bending over to mob violence out of fear.

Sure, Jan.


Dude, Fark is a place where people can post fairly anonymously...  Why bother responding to people if you're just going to call them liars?
 
2020-06-03 11:05:57 AM  
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MadHatter500: SNAFUq: GreenSun: "I am angry because something terrible is happening, so I'll just go destroy other people's livelihoods or harm innocents because causing pain and destruction on others will surely solve the problem!"

Hey, if Nord doesn't care about their business being destroyed and their merchandise being stolen, well that's them. I wonder what happens to their employees who actually used to work there but can't do so anymore. Sure hope Nord will pay these people some money to tide them over while Nord rebuilds their wrecked workplaces for these people.

Sure hope small businesses owned by locals and families are prepared to have their businesses destroyed and their means of income stolen. They don't have the same financial power as a big company as Nord which can shrug off a destroyed shop or two.

https://www.nbc12.com/2020/05/30/its-n​ot-fair-business-owners-clean-up-after​-overnight-protests/

Before you support these riots and looting, THINK ABOUT THE EMPLOYEES, THE FAMILIES, THE CHILDREN, THE PEOPLE WHO COUNT ON THEIR WORK TO SURVIVE.

George Floyd died because a nasty evil cop decided to kill him. How does this entitle you to destroying other innocent lives? You're no different than the evil cop you are supposed to be protesting against. If you truly believe that destroying people's businesses, livelihoods, and homes and harming innocents is what will finally bring justice and bring down racism in the US, then you are a heartless, cruel person with a delusional mind.

Well said. It just keeps perpetuating the idea that it's ok to be violent and destructive to get what you want. I understand being angry about police cracking down on peaceful protests, but taking it out on a third party doesn't solve the problem.

Both of you still don't farking get it.

Violence comes about because idiots like you haven't been listening or properly reacting to the complaints and issues at hand.

Society, which supports both those businesses and the cops is the problem.  Both of you have expressed exactly the attitudes which have created that poisonous society.

Your bad attitudes creates that society where property is valued above life and rights.  The property (those businesses) are protected by society via the police.  So attacking what appears to you to be 3rd party property is a way of directing violence at the society which is the root of this problem.

So now you have been informed why things happen they way they happen - it is up to you to decide if you are going to continue to be part of the problem or work towards solving it.


I am not seeing how looting random stores and destroying things makes the situation better. It's just people taking advantage of a dire situation to get what they want.

I agree that there is a complex issue that needs to be worked out by society as a whole. I just don't agree that rioting and stealing crap is how it will be solved.
 
2020-06-03 9:17:57 AM  
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rewind2846: 1. It isn't unanimous. There are quite a few white people that DGAF that some "person who annoys you" died.


"Quite a few" is a vague term that isn't helpful towards solving a problem. We need specifics. Police chiefs across the nation, both Democrats and Republicans, Fox News, CNN and MSNBC, and every other national voice immediately condemned this. Of course there's going to be "a few" people who are evil, racist, arseholes or all three. They do not constitute the "norm". The actual "Norm" in this case was condemnation.

rewind2846: One good solution that has been shown to work is having police live in the neighborhoods where they work. Right now too many live elsewhere and then patrol the neighborhoods they have been assigned like guards at a prison camp. No one wants to feel like an inmate in their own home.


Agreed, I think this would be a great step towards bringing the police and community closer together and give each some buy in towards the success of the other.

rewind2846: Not every white person is racist. A good start would be to not condone racist behavior to keep the racists out. You engage in that type of behavior even once, you're fired. Period.


Again I agree, and so do most people when asked. We already have laws on the books that make it illegal to discriminate based on skin color unless you include quota's. So we have to figure out what lets people and specifically police officers get away with blatantly racist behavior? Since we can agree it's not that society is turning a blind eye. This leads me to the arbitration process and protections negotiated by the police union. We may have to look at their contracts.

So this gives me hope, we have begun a product conversation. Two points we agree upon and only on we disagree. This is how it's supposed to be done in my opinion.
 
2020-06-03 8:58:29 AM  
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SNAFUq: GreenSun: "I am angry because something terrible is happening, so I'll just go destroy other people's livelihoods or harm innocents because causing pain and destruction on others will surely solve the problem!"

Hey, if Nord doesn't care about their business being destroyed and their merchandise being stolen, well that's them. I wonder what happens to their employees who actually used to work there but can't do so anymore. Sure hope Nord will pay these people some money to tide them over while Nord rebuilds their wrecked workplaces for these people.

Sure hope small businesses owned by locals and families are prepared to have their businesses destroyed and their means of income stolen. They don't have the same financial power as a big company as Nord which can shrug off a destroyed shop or two.

https://www.nbc12.com/2020/05/30/its-n​ot-fair-business-owners-clean-up-after​-overnight-protests/

Before you support these riots and looting, THINK ABOUT THE EMPLOYEES, THE FAMILIES, THE CHILDREN, THE PEOPLE WHO COUNT ON THEIR WORK TO SURVIVE.

George Floyd died because a nasty evil cop decided to kill him. How does this entitle you to destroying other innocent lives? You're no different than the evil cop you are supposed to be protesting against. If you truly believe that destroying people's businesses, livelihoods, and homes and harming innocents is what will finally bring justice and bring down racism in the US, then you are a heartless, cruel person with a delusional mind.

Well said. It just keeps perpetuating the idea that it's ok to be violent and destructive to get what you want. I understand being angry about police cracking down on peaceful protests, but taking it out on a third party doesn't solve the problem.


Both of you still don't farking get it.

Violence comes about because idiots like you haven't been listening or properly reacting to the complaints and issues at hand.

Society, which supports both those businesses and the cops is the problem.  Both of you have expressed exactly the attitudes which have created that poisonous society.

Your bad attitudes creates that society where property is valued above life and rights.  The property (those businesses) are protected by society via the police.  So attacking what appears to you to be 3rd party property is a way of directing violence at the society which is the root of this problem.

So now you have been informed why things happen they way they happen - it is up to you to decide if you are going to continue to be part of the problem or work towards solving it.
 
2020-06-03 8:52:29 AM  
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Rapmaster2000: Whoa. CanisNoir is back. Must be an election year. Say hi to Black Cat.


Nope, just disheartened enough after participating in a completely peaceful protest last night to come on and discover a business bending over to mob violence out of fear. I'm sick of the divisive narrative being pushed by media because it is destructive and glosses over the real problems that continue to exist and will continue to exist as long as people keep focused on demonizing each other.

Looting does nothing to further a cause. Shouting Racism and No Peace No Justice over a case that demonstrates speedy justice does nothing but delegitimize your message. Calling this a problem of white racism is an obvious fallacy.

I'm tired of seeing my community divided by people proclaiming they want tolerance, and I'm really sick of the media exploiting human tragedy to further the divisions and bolster their ratings.

This has nothing to do with an election - at this point I don't have anyone I can cast a vote for so I'm planning on writing in Yang. I haven't hidden that fact.

So how about we look at the real problem? Let's make public the union protections that police officers have in negotiating complaints, let's acknowledge that inequities exist within the system but are tied more to class than race. Then we can take a closer look at the historical trends that caused us to be in this position.
 
2020-06-03 8:36:28 AM  
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CanisNoir: waxbeans: Serious question,You think society, this society, doesn't enable that cop and other cops to kill people, was pretty much impunity?

No. What part of the unanimous and loud condemnation of the killing of Floyd did you miss? Please tell me how does wide spread unanimous condemnation enable that activity?

If you think the problem of police brutality is wide spread racism instead of deeper more complex issues such as protections negotiated by the Police Unions, a culture of "Thin Blue Line" and natural human tribalism, then you're just ignorant and contributing to the problem.

Please tell me what your solution is, if you think the problem is every cop is a hidden racist? Have no police force? If you call every white person a racist as some do, then tell me how you get the buy in to actually solve the problem?

Seriously, think through your arguments please.


Whoa.  CanisNoir is back.  Must be an election year.  Say hi to Black Cat.
 
2020-06-03 8:07:49 AM  
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2020-06-03 7:51:01 AM  
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Mouser: Original: Original Tweet:

Translation:  The insurance check covered the damages.  Sucks that rest of you will get rate hikes, but at least we can virtue signal.


First of all, I seriously doubt the settlement you got from that fall when you went to Capitol City will let you afford shopping at Nordstrom, Cletus. Second you want to end protests against a system that has roving gangs of uniformed murderers? Stop enabling a system that allows uniformed gangs of murderers to wield authority.
 
2020-06-03 7:29:55 AM  
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Smoking GNU: That's a nice change from the usual "property damage is a far more serious crime than all these black people getting murdered by  police all the time, therefore all the protests are automatically invalid and all participants should be arrested and locked up for life" messages we've been getting lately from totally-not-trolls.


This appears to be a mis-characterization of all the arguments I've personally seen on here.  Most of the arguments I saw were that people should be allowed to protect their property and livelihood because the police are obviously unable to.  As my brother puts it, the police are here to protect peoples rights and property and in these cases they've done neither.
 
2020-06-03 5:10:13 AM  
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2020-06-03 5:00:23 AM  
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chipaku: sex_and_drugs_for_ian: Not saying you're wrong, but you've got to name names if you're going to throw that out there.

Some people just don't use their accounts for long periods of time. The internet is a big place.

People who complain about old accounts are usually noobs who don't even know what fark was like back in the day. It was basically 4chan lite
.


I admit to angrily walking away from Fark for long stretches, especially in the early days of my account

At times it seemed that people here were actually going out of their way to hurt my feelings.
 
2020-06-03 4:53:58 AM  
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Conservative Evangelical Millennial Cyclist: Old accounts that have haven't had a presence on fark forums seem to be popping up a lot lately. Odd.


Stalker much? Whatcha doin' checking on how old an account is nosy?
 
2020-06-03 4:39:39 AM  
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archeochick: waxbeans: notgonnatellu: Funny how the analogy pre-riots but post-covid (2020PC-2020PR) is that we're the country wearing swap meet polyester with a brand new Gucci belt. Or something like that.

LOL

Meanwhile.

I've found Gucci shoes in the trash at the car wash next door.
In the box and everything.

Does this happen in other nations? Seriously! Or is that a America thing?

People get pissed off at their significant others in every country.  We may speak different languages and pray to different gods, but our ability to spite our significant others is universal.


Hum.

///
All I know is that car wash is a gold mine. I've found bottles of whiskey. Boxes of breakfast sandwiches.
Oh, and a fulx fur. And a nice leather jacket. It even stopped smelling like cigarettes after a month.
 
2020-06-03 4:31:10 AM  
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GreenSun: "I am angry because something terrible is happening, so I'll just go destroy other people's livelihoods or harm innocents because causing pain and destruction on others will surely solve the problem!"

Hey, if Nord doesn't care about their business being destroyed and their merchandise being stolen, well that's them. I wonder what happens to their employees who actually used to work there but can't do so anymore. Sure hope Nord will pay these people some money to tide them over while Nord rebuilds their wrecked workplaces for these people.

Sure hope small businesses owned by locals and families are prepared to have their businesses destroyed and their means of income stolen. They don't have the same financial power as a big company as Nord which can shrug off a destroyed shop or two.

https://www.nbc12.com/2020/05/30/its-n​ot-fair-business-owners-clean-up-after​-overnight-protests/

Before you support these riots and looting, THINK ABOUT THE EMPLOYEES, THE FAMILIES, THE CHILDREN, THE PEOPLE WHO COUNT ON THEIR WORK TO SURVIVE.

George Floyd died because a nasty evil cop decided to kill him. How does this entitle you to destroying other innocent lives? You're no different than the evil cop you are supposed to be protesting against. If you truly believe that destroying people's businesses, livelihoods, and homes and harming innocents is what will finally bring justice and bring down racism in the US, then you are a heartless, cruel person with a delusional mind.


Protesters are protesters and looters are criminals. One is exercising their constitutional rights (you know, the one with more than that Second one you loooove) the other is committing a crime. But you know the difference, dontcha?
 
2020-06-03 4:19:11 AM  
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GreenSun: some dumb bullshiat

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2020-06-03 4:08:36 AM  
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Conservative Evangelical Millennial Cyclist: Old accounts that have haven't had a presence on fark forums seem to be popping up a lot lately. Odd.


Not saying you're wrong, but you've got to name names if you're going to throw that out there.

It affords them the chance to at least defend themselves.
 
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