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2020-06-03 5:10:13 AM  
 
2020-06-03 5:21:40 AM  

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2020-06-03 5:40:58 AM  

waxbeans: GreenSun: It's so easy to say you support these violent rioters when you're not on the receiving end of their violence.

And it's easy to love the police, when it's your neck that will never be knelt on.

People, in this nation could have lifted up a football player that peacefully knelt.
It did not. Especially the man our electoral college put in charge.

Why exactly do you think society can poop on it's own citizens and it not effect alllllll citizens????
If the police can kill this man or that man what is keeping them from killing me or you? Nothing.


Do you think slaves that killed slave masters was in the wrong?
Should have natives Never killed a pioneer?
Why is violence done by the government okay, but, responding with violence wrong?
WTF?
What kind of hypocrisy is that?


That's a whole lot of false equivelencies.

This is more like the slaves attacking the slaves.
 
2020-06-03 5:55:25 AM  

GreenSun: "I am angry because something terrible is happening, so I'll just go destroy other people's livelihoods or harm innocents because causing pain and destruction on others will surely solve the problem!"

Hey, if Nord doesn't care about their business being destroyed and their merchandise being stolen, well that's them. I wonder what happens to their employees who actually used to work there but can't do so anymore. Sure hope Nord will pay these people some money to tide them over while Nord rebuilds their wrecked workplaces for these people.

Sure hope small businesses owned by locals and families are prepared to have their businesses destroyed and their means of income stolen. They don't have the same financial power as a big company as Nord which can shrug off a destroyed shop or two.

https://www.nbc12.com/2020/05/30/its-n​ot-fair-business-owners-clean-up-after​-overnight-protests/

Before you support these riots and looting, THINK ABOUT THE EMPLOYEES, THE FAMILIES, THE CHILDREN, THE PEOPLE WHO COUNT ON THEIR WORK TO SURVIVE.

George Floyd died because a nasty evil cop decided to kill him. How does this entitle you to destroying other innocent lives? You're no different than the evil cop you are supposed to be protesting against. If you truly believe that destroying people's businesses, livelihoods, and homes and harming innocents is what will finally bring justice and bring down racism in the US, then you are a heartless, cruel person with a delusional mind.


Well said. It just keeps perpetuating the idea that it's ok to be violent and destructive to get what you want. I understand being angry about police cracking down on peaceful protests, but taking it out on a third party doesn't solve the problem.
 
2020-06-03 5:56:27 AM  

mrshowrules: GreenSun: No, I am NOT a Trump supporter. Just because I don't support the rioters, looters, and criminals doesn't make me a Trump supporter.

There are peaceful protestors out there and they're getting the message across. Why destroy businesses and harm innocent people?

In the news, there are a lot of features about cops joining the peaceful protests. Why can't it be like that everywhere else?

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020​/05/31/i-took-helmet-and-laid-batons-d​own-michigan-sheriff-and-police-didnt-​disperse-their

In some places, protestors are trying to stop the violent types of protestors from destroying businesses. Even a young teen was able to help lead a protest to end into a peaceful one with nobody harmed and no businesses destroyed.

https://people.com/human-interest/16-y​ear-old-praised-for-leading-peaceful-p​rotests-detroit/

People have a choice in how they wish to protest. They can do it peacefully or violently at the cost of other people's safety and livelihood.

Have you ever thought about what would happen if the rioters destroyed your place of work, stole your stuff, broke into your home and beat you up? Would you still say it's justified that they destroyed your livelihood or ability to earn an income for your family? Would you say it's justified that they stole all the things that you worked hard for? Would you say it's justified that you or your family were beaten or killed when you tried to defend yourselves and your property?

It's so easy to say you support these violent rioters when you're not on the receiving end of their violence.

No one is supporting the rioters, looters, and criminals so your post kind of seems pointless.


You should check out many of the supporting comments here on Fark.
 
2020-06-03 6:22:39 AM  

Bslim: GreenSun: "I am angry because something terrible is happening, so I'll just go destroy other people's livelihoods or harm innocents because causing pain and destruction on others will surely solve the problem!"

Hey, if Nord doesn't care about their business being destroyed and their merchandise being stolen, well that's them. I wonder what happens to their employees who actually used to work there but can't do so anymore. Sure hope Nord will pay these people some money to tide them over while Nord rebuilds their wrecked workplaces for these people.

Sure hope small businesses owned by locals and families are prepared to have their businesses destroyed and their means of income stolen. They don't have the same financial power as a big company as Nord which can shrug off a destroyed shop or two.

https://www.nbc12.com/2020/05/30/its-n​ot-fair-business-owners-clean-up-after​-overnight-protests/

Before you support these riots and looting, THINK ABOUT THE EMPLOYEES, THE FAMILIES, THE CHILDREN, THE PEOPLE WHO COUNT ON THEIR WORK TO SURVIVE.

George Floyd died because a nasty evil cop decided to kill him. How does this entitle you to destroying other innocent lives? You're no different than the evil cop you are supposed to be protesting against. If you truly believe that destroying people's businesses, livelihoods, and homes and harming innocents is what will finally bring justice and bring down racism in the US, then you are a heartless, cruel person with a delusional mind.

Protesters are protesters and looters are criminals. One is exercising their constitutional rights (you know, the one with more than that Second one you loooove) the other is committing a crime. But you know the difference, dontcha?


Then the protestors need to call out the looters very loudly. But they won't because the violence keeps the media interested. Without it, this is a week's worth of news at best.
 
2020-06-03 6:30:29 AM  

chipaku: sex_and_drugs_for_ian: At times it seemed that people here were actually going out of their way to hurt my feelings.

Man, the flame wars back then were epic 😂

I remember when photoshop threads would routinely get into the hundreds of posts. Fun times.


Cool belt onion, grandpa...
 
2020-06-03 6:31:22 AM  

GreenSun: No, I am NOT a Trump supporter. Just because I don't support the rioters, looters, and criminals doesn't make me a Trump supporter.

There are peaceful protestors out there and they're getting the message across. Why destroy businesses and harm innocent people?

In the news, there are a lot of features about cops joining the peaceful protests. Why can't it be like that everywhere else?

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020​/05/31/i-took-helmet-and-laid-batons-d​own-michigan-sheriff-and-police-didnt-​disperse-their

In some places, protestors are trying to stop the violent types of protestors from destroying businesses. Even a young teen was able to help lead a protest to end into a peaceful one with nobody harmed and no businesses destroyed.

https://people.com/human-interest/16-y​ear-old-praised-for-leading-peaceful-p​rotests-detroit/

People have a choice in how they wish to protest. They can do it peacefully or violently at the cost of other people's safety and livelihood.

Have you ever thought about what would happen if the rioters destroyed your place of work, stole your stuff, broke into your home and beat you up? Would you still say it's justified that they destroyed your livelihood or ability to earn an income for your family? Would you say it's justified that they stole all the things that you worked hard for? Would you say it's justified that you or your family were beaten or killed when you tried to defend yourselves and your property?

It's so easy to say you support these violent rioters when you're not on the receiving end of their violence.


I'm a black man and I'm in the Army. The Army has programs to help me get on my feet if my stuff Is lost to fire plus I have insurance. So I could care less if my stuff is looted. There's a couple things truly irreplaceable in my home, like stuff we obtained from when my mother in law passed, other than that, no one cares.

It should be noted, my wife and I were pretty anti consumerist when this started so...we make it a point  to not get attached to stuff.

Just so you know, "what if your stuff is lost" isn't the slam dunk argument you think it is, there is a strong backlash towards overvaluing possessions in this country. Despite the country's reputation for being consumerist, there are a lot of people who aren't out there hoarding crap.
 
2020-06-03 6:42:57 AM  

bfh0417: Then the protestors need to call out the looters very loudly.


1. Why? Why is that their responsibility? 2. How loudly? Should they be calling it out more loudly than their actual message? 3. If they had farking megaphones and shouted "don't loot" every 10 seconds do you really think that would make a difference to the people criticizing them?
 
2020-06-03 6:43:17 AM  
I'm wondering if some of the people bemoaning property damage are assuming that everyone else is as underinsured as they are.  I'm begging someone to loot my truck.  My comprehensive deductible is $250 and the AC just quit working. Please come loot it. It just sits in the driveway most of the time anyway.

You can loot 99% of my shiat.  With homeowners insurance, I can get better shiat.
 
2020-06-03 6:53:52 AM  
Their PR department knows what they're doing.
 
2020-06-03 7:04:22 AM  

bfh0417: Bslim: GreenSun: "I am angry because something terrible is happening, so I'll just go destroy other people's livelihoods or harm innocents because causing pain and destruction on others will surely solve the problem!"

Hey, if Nord doesn't care about their business being destroyed and their merchandise being stolen, well that's them. I wonder what happens to their employees who actually used to work there but can't do so anymore. Sure hope Nord will pay these people some money to tide them over while Nord rebuilds their wrecked workplaces for these people.

Sure hope small businesses owned by locals and families are prepared to have their businesses destroyed and their means of income stolen. They don't have the same financial power as a big company as Nord which can shrug off a destroyed shop or two.

https://www.nbc12.com/2020/05/30/its-n​ot-fair-business-owners-clean-up-after​-overnight-protests/

Before you support these riots and looting, THINK ABOUT THE EMPLOYEES, THE FAMILIES, THE CHILDREN, THE PEOPLE WHO COUNT ON THEIR WORK TO SURVIVE.

George Floyd died because a nasty evil cop decided to kill him. How does this entitle you to destroying other innocent lives? You're no different than the evil cop you are supposed to be protesting against. If you truly believe that destroying people's businesses, livelihoods, and homes and harming innocents is what will finally bring justice and bring down racism in the US, then you are a heartless, cruel person with a delusional mind.

Protesters are protesters and looters are criminals. One is exercising their constitutional rights (you know, the one with more than that Second one you loooove) the other is committing a crime. But you know the difference, dontcha?

Then the protestors need to call out the looters very loudly. But they won't because the violence keeps the media interested. Without it, this is a week's worth of news at best.


Protesters don't need to do SQUAT.
Just like gun owners double down on their rights every time one of them commits an act of terrorism on the rest of the unarmed population.

See how that works?  Same Bill of Rights, skippy.
 
2020-06-03 7:08:42 AM  
Cool, so everything's free at Nordstrom's now, right? Guess I'll help myself to a new suit, seeing as they don't mind.

How much of a biatch do you have to be to turn around and bow and thank the people who just robbed you? Seriously, here's Nordstrom's right now:

Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2020-06-03 7:18:06 AM  

Tommy Moo: Cool, so everything's free at Nordstrom's now, right? Guess I'll help myself to a new suit, seeing as they don't mind.

How much of a biatch do you have to be to turn around and bow and thank the people who just robbed you? Seriously, here's Nordstrom's right now:

[Fark user image image 688x687]


Nordstrom gets to claim insurance for the full retail value of merchandise they would have had to sell at a significant discount.

They'd probably love it if you looted them right now.  Throw them in the briar patch while you're there to show them what biatches they are.
 
2020-06-03 7:20:36 AM  

Tommy Moo: Cool, so everything's free at Nordstrom's now, right? Guess I'll help myself to a new suit, seeing as they don't mind.

How much of a biatch do you have to be to turn around and bow and thank the people who just robbed you? Seriously, here's Nordstrom's right now:

[Fark user image 688x687]


I'm just assuming everyone stopped responding to try and figure out what you're trying to say... Nordstrom's right now is two young people kissing? I'm dumb I guess, because I have no idea what that is supposed to mean.
 
2020-06-03 7:29:55 AM  

Smoking GNU: That's a nice change from the usual "property damage is a far more serious crime than all these black people getting murdered by  police all the time, therefore all the protests are automatically invalid and all participants should be arrested and locked up for life" messages we've been getting lately from totally-not-trolls.


This appears to be a mis-characterization of all the arguments I've personally seen on here.  Most of the arguments I saw were that people should be allowed to protect their property and livelihood because the police are obviously unable to.  As my brother puts it, the police are here to protect peoples rights and property and in these cases they've done neither.
 
2020-06-03 7:31:51 AM  

Original: Original Tweet:


Translation:  The insurance check covered the damages.  Sucks that rest of you will get rate hikes, but at least we can virtue signal.
 
2020-06-03 7:40:36 AM  

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2020-06-03 7:45:08 AM  

Mouser: Original: Original Tweet:

Translation:  The insurance check covered the damages.  Sucks that rest of you will get rate hikes, but at least we can virtue signal.


Well, they would get rate hikes too - specifically larger hikes if the insurance company deems that they didn't take reasonable precautions to limit their losses.

But it's good that Real America is starting to understand insurance a bit.  I know it's hard to understand that some cultures aren't concerned with appearing to be hardasses, and are content to quietly count their money while others preen.
 
2020-06-03 7:48:25 AM  

chipaku: I remember when photoshop threads would routinely get into the hundreds of posts. Fun times.


Hundreds of posts and sometimes nearly all them very funny. I miss that very much.
 
2020-06-03 7:51:01 AM  

Mouser: Original: Original Tweet:

Translation:  The insurance check covered the damages.  Sucks that rest of you will get rate hikes, but at least we can virtue signal.


First of all, I seriously doubt the settlement you got from that fall when you went to Capitol City will let you afford shopping at Nordstrom, Cletus. Second you want to end protests against a system that has roving gangs of uniformed murderers? Stop enabling a system that allows uniformed gangs of murderers to wield authority.
 
2020-06-03 7:54:46 AM  
If it takes fires and looting to get folks' attention, well then that's what needs to happen.

For over 50 years you have voted in people who promise the world and deliver...well, racist police departments.
You want to fix that?  Vote for someone else.  Even someone you don't like is going to do at least as bad a job- no worse, because that's not possible.  Maybe even a better job to actually earn your next vote instead of just taking it for granted you are too stupid to know what's up.
 
2020-06-03 8:07:49 AM  
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2020-06-03 8:21:57 AM  

waxbeans: Serious question,You think society, this society, doesn't enable that cop and other cops to kill people, was pretty much impunity?


No. What part of the unanimous and loud condemnation of the killing of Floyd did you miss? Please tell me how does wide spread unanimous condemnation enable that activity?

If you think the problem of police brutality is wide spread racism instead of deeper more complex issues such as protections negotiated by the Police Unions, a culture of "Thin Blue Line" and natural human tribalism, then you're just ignorant and contributing to the problem.

Please tell me what your solution is, if you think the problem is every cop is a hidden racist? Have no police force? If you call every white person a racist as some do, then tell me how you get the buy in to actually solve the problem?

Seriously, think through your arguments please.
 
2020-06-03 8:36:28 AM  

CanisNoir: waxbeans: Serious question,You think society, this society, doesn't enable that cop and other cops to kill people, was pretty much impunity?

No. What part of the unanimous and loud condemnation of the killing of Floyd did you miss? Please tell me how does wide spread unanimous condemnation enable that activity?

If you think the problem of police brutality is wide spread racism instead of deeper more complex issues such as protections negotiated by the Police Unions, a culture of "Thin Blue Line" and natural human tribalism, then you're just ignorant and contributing to the problem.

Please tell me what your solution is, if you think the problem is every cop is a hidden racist? Have no police force? If you call every white person a racist as some do, then tell me how you get the buy in to actually solve the problem?

Seriously, think through your arguments please.


Whoa.  CanisNoir is back.  Must be an election year.  Say hi to Black Cat.
 
2020-06-03 8:52:29 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Whoa. CanisNoir is back. Must be an election year. Say hi to Black Cat.


Nope, just disheartened enough after participating in a completely peaceful protest last night to come on and discover a business bending over to mob violence out of fear. I'm sick of the divisive narrative being pushed by media because it is destructive and glosses over the real problems that continue to exist and will continue to exist as long as people keep focused on demonizing each other.

Looting does nothing to further a cause. Shouting Racism and No Peace No Justice over a case that demonstrates speedy justice does nothing but delegitimize your message. Calling this a problem of white racism is an obvious fallacy.

I'm tired of seeing my community divided by people proclaiming they want tolerance, and I'm really sick of the media exploiting human tragedy to further the divisions and bolster their ratings.

This has nothing to do with an election - at this point I don't have anyone I can cast a vote for so I'm planning on writing in Yang. I haven't hidden that fact.

So how about we look at the real problem? Let's make public the union protections that police officers have in negotiating complaints, let's acknowledge that inequities exist within the system but are tied more to class than race. Then we can take a closer look at the historical trends that caused us to be in this position.
 
2020-06-03 8:53:20 AM  
Translation:
"These motherfarkers acted like complete animals and used a tragedy as an excuse to get free shiat and act the fool, and they cost us a shiat pile of money. Make no mistake, we are pissed AF, but we know if we biatch about it, it will hurt future sales, so we are going to pretend everything is cool, so you'll keep shopping here. Not that you need to, you got everything you wanted.  Except for the shiat you looted without thinking, and will be returning for a full refund once we open back up, since we can't biatch about that either."
 
2020-06-03 8:57:47 AM  

CanisNoir: Nope, just disheartened enough after participating in a completely peaceful protest last night to come on and discover a business bending over to mob violence out of fear.


Sure, Jan.
 
2020-06-03 8:58:29 AM  

SNAFUq: GreenSun: "I am angry because something terrible is happening, so I'll just go destroy other people's livelihoods or harm innocents because causing pain and destruction on others will surely solve the problem!"

Hey, if Nord doesn't care about their business being destroyed and their merchandise being stolen, well that's them. I wonder what happens to their employees who actually used to work there but can't do so anymore. Sure hope Nord will pay these people some money to tide them over while Nord rebuilds their wrecked workplaces for these people.

Sure hope small businesses owned by locals and families are prepared to have their businesses destroyed and their means of income stolen. They don't have the same financial power as a big company as Nord which can shrug off a destroyed shop or two.

https://www.nbc12.com/2020/05/30/its-n​ot-fair-business-owners-clean-up-after​-overnight-protests/

Before you support these riots and looting, THINK ABOUT THE EMPLOYEES, THE FAMILIES, THE CHILDREN, THE PEOPLE WHO COUNT ON THEIR WORK TO SURVIVE.

George Floyd died because a nasty evil cop decided to kill him. How does this entitle you to destroying other innocent lives? You're no different than the evil cop you are supposed to be protesting against. If you truly believe that destroying people's businesses, livelihoods, and homes and harming innocents is what will finally bring justice and bring down racism in the US, then you are a heartless, cruel person with a delusional mind.

Well said. It just keeps perpetuating the idea that it's ok to be violent and destructive to get what you want. I understand being angry about police cracking down on peaceful protests, but taking it out on a third party doesn't solve the problem.


Both of you still don't farking get it.

Violence comes about because idiots like you haven't been listening or properly reacting to the complaints and issues at hand.

Society, which supports both those businesses and the cops is the problem.  Both of you have expressed exactly the attitudes which have created that poisonous society.

Your bad attitudes creates that society where property is valued above life and rights.  The property (those businesses) are protected by society via the police.  So attacking what appears to you to be 3rd party property is a way of directing violence at the society which is the root of this problem.

So now you have been informed why things happen they way they happen - it is up to you to decide if you are going to continue to be part of the problem or work towards solving it.
 
2020-06-03 8:59:43 AM  

GreenSun: No, I am NOT a Trump supporter.


Ya boy teargassed a peaceful crowd so he could strut in front of a Church.
 
2020-06-03 9:07:05 AM  

God-is-a-Taco: PS: Buy our products because after a week we have discussed things with shareholders and see free profit in meaningless social media platitudes.
Corporations are not people and they are not your friends.


You don't have to be someone's friend not to be an asshole.
Stuff is just stuff, and can be replaced. That is what insurance is for.
Human lives can't be replaced. They are more important than stuff
At least someone in their corporate offices chose to see the bigger picture here.
That is why they should get the HERO tag.

CanisNoir: What part of the unanimous and loud condemnation of the killing of Floyd did you miss?


1. It isn't unanimous. There are quite a few white people that DGAF that some "person who annoys you" died.
2. One good solution that has been shown to work is having police live in the neighborhoods where they work. Right now too many live elsewhere and then patrol the neighborhoods they have been assigned like guards at a prison camp. No one wants to feel like an inmate in their own home.
3. Not every white person is racist. A good start would be to not condone racist behavior to keep the racists out. You engage in that type of behavior even once, you're fired. Period.

The key here is trust. Police departments have abused the trust - and the privileges - the citizens have given them. They are still doing this now... check the interwebs for the video. We give them guns, badges, and the power of life and death with relatively few repercussions. It's time that they live up to the trust they want us to have in them. No one should have to fear the police except criminals.
 
2020-06-03 9:15:20 AM  

MadHatter500: SNAFUq: GreenSun: "I am angry because something terrible is happening, so I'll just go destroy other people's livelihoods or harm innocents because causing pain and destruction on others will surely solve the problem!"

Hey, if Nord doesn't care about their business being destroyed and their merchandise being stolen, well that's them. I wonder what happens to their employees who actually used to work there but can't do so anymore. Sure hope Nord will pay these people some money to tide them over while Nord rebuilds their wrecked workplaces for these people.

Sure hope small businesses owned by locals and families are prepared to have their businesses destroyed and their means of income stolen. They don't have the same financial power as a big company as Nord which can shrug off a destroyed shop or two.

https://www.nbc12.com/2020/05/30/its-n​ot-fair-business-owners-clean-up-after​-overnight-protests/

Before you support these riots and looting, THINK ABOUT THE EMPLOYEES, THE FAMILIES, THE CHILDREN, THE PEOPLE WHO COUNT ON THEIR WORK TO SURVIVE.

George Floyd died because a nasty evil cop decided to kill him. How does this entitle you to destroying other innocent lives? You're no different than the evil cop you are supposed to be protesting against. If you truly believe that destroying people's businesses, livelihoods, and homes and harming innocents is what will finally bring justice and bring down racism in the US, then you are a heartless, cruel person with a delusional mind.

Well said. It just keeps perpetuating the idea that it's ok to be violent and destructive to get what you want. I understand being angry about police cracking down on peaceful protests, but taking it out on a third party doesn't solve the problem.

Both of you still don't farking get it.

Violence comes about because idiots like you haven't been listening or properly reacting to the complaints and issues at hand.

Society, which supports both those businesses and the cops is the problem.  Both of you have expressed exactly the attitudes which have created that poisonous society.

Your bad attitudes creates that society where property is valued above life and rights.  The property (those businesses) are protected by society via the police.  So attacking what appears to you to be 3rd party property is a way of directing violence at the society which is the root of this problem.

So now you have been informed why things happen they way they happen - it is up to you to decide if you are going to continue to be part of the problem or work towards solving it.


I get it now! You have opened my eyes! So what property  of yours should I destroy? I mean your house is protected by the police right?
 
2020-06-03 9:17:57 AM  

rewind2846: 1. It isn't unanimous. There are quite a few white people that DGAF that some "person who annoys you" died.


"Quite a few" is a vague term that isn't helpful towards solving a problem. We need specifics. Police chiefs across the nation, both Democrats and Republicans, Fox News, CNN and MSNBC, and every other national voice immediately condemned this. Of course there's going to be "a few" people who are evil, racist, arseholes or all three. They do not constitute the "norm". The actual "Norm" in this case was condemnation.

rewind2846: One good solution that has been shown to work is having police live in the neighborhoods where they work. Right now too many live elsewhere and then patrol the neighborhoods they have been assigned like guards at a prison camp. No one wants to feel like an inmate in their own home.


Agreed, I think this would be a great step towards bringing the police and community closer together and give each some buy in towards the success of the other.

rewind2846: Not every white person is racist. A good start would be to not condone racist behavior to keep the racists out. You engage in that type of behavior even once, you're fired. Period.


Again I agree, and so do most people when asked. We already have laws on the books that make it illegal to discriminate based on skin color unless you include quota's. So we have to figure out what lets people and specifically police officers get away with blatantly racist behavior? Since we can agree it's not that society is turning a blind eye. This leads me to the arbitration process and protections negotiated by the police union. We may have to look at their contracts.

So this gives me hope, we have begun a product conversation. Two points we agree upon and only on we disagree. This is how it's supposed to be done in my opinion.
 
2020-06-03 9:36:37 AM  

Tommy Moo: Cool, so everything's free at Nordstrom's now, right? Guess I'll help myself to a new suit, seeing as they don't mind.

How much of a biatch do you have to be to turn around and bow and thank the people who just robbed you? Seriously, here's Nordstrom's right now:

[Fark user image 688x687]


It's ok to like boys instead Tommy, we won't judge you.
 
2020-06-03 9:46:14 AM  

BigSquibowski: Tommy Moo: Cool, so everything's free at Nordstrom's now, right? Guess I'll help myself to a new suit, seeing as they don't mind.

How much of a biatch do you have to be to turn around and bow and thank the people who just robbed you? Seriously, here's Nordstrom's right now:

[Fark user image 688x687]

It's ok to like boys instead Tommy, we won't judge you.


I'm imagining you to be one of those adults with a diaper fetish.
 
2020-06-03 9:54:03 AM  

sex_and_drugs_for_ian: Target announced in much the same vein that they'd repair and reopen the Lake Street store.

Maybe not the best idea numbers wise, but a great idea social fabric wise.


Target remodeled that store two years ago, so they were making the numbers there.

/was weird and eerie watching the clean-up video.
 
2020-06-03 10:04:17 AM  

Tommy Moo: BigSquibowski: Tommy Moo: Cool, so everything's free at Nordstrom's now, right? Guess I'll help myself to a new suit, seeing as they don't mind.

How much of a biatch do you have to be to turn around and bow and thank the people who just robbed you? Seriously, here's Nordstrom's right now:

[Fark user image 688x687]

It's ok to like boys instead Tommy, we won't judge you.

I'm imagining you to be one of those adults with a diaper fetish.


Think of me however you'd like because judging by your history you'd absolutely be wrong about that too.
 
2020-06-03 11:05:57 AM  

MadHatter500: SNAFUq: GreenSun: "I am angry because something terrible is happening, so I'll just go destroy other people's livelihoods or harm innocents because causing pain and destruction on others will surely solve the problem!"

Hey, if Nord doesn't care about their business being destroyed and their merchandise being stolen, well that's them. I wonder what happens to their employees who actually used to work there but can't do so anymore. Sure hope Nord will pay these people some money to tide them over while Nord rebuilds their wrecked workplaces for these people.

Sure hope small businesses owned by locals and families are prepared to have their businesses destroyed and their means of income stolen. They don't have the same financial power as a big company as Nord which can shrug off a destroyed shop or two.

https://www.nbc12.com/2020/05/30/its-n​ot-fair-business-owners-clean-up-after​-overnight-protests/

Before you support these riots and looting, THINK ABOUT THE EMPLOYEES, THE FAMILIES, THE CHILDREN, THE PEOPLE WHO COUNT ON THEIR WORK TO SURVIVE.

George Floyd died because a nasty evil cop decided to kill him. How does this entitle you to destroying other innocent lives? You're no different than the evil cop you are supposed to be protesting against. If you truly believe that destroying people's businesses, livelihoods, and homes and harming innocents is what will finally bring justice and bring down racism in the US, then you are a heartless, cruel person with a delusional mind.

Well said. It just keeps perpetuating the idea that it's ok to be violent and destructive to get what you want. I understand being angry about police cracking down on peaceful protests, but taking it out on a third party doesn't solve the problem.

Both of you still don't farking get it.

Violence comes about because idiots like you haven't been listening or properly reacting to the complaints and issues at hand.

Society, which supports both those businesses and the cops is the problem.  Both of you have expressed exactly the attitudes which have created that poisonous society.

Your bad attitudes creates that society where property is valued above life and rights.  The property (those businesses) are protected by society via the police.  So attacking what appears to you to be 3rd party property is a way of directing violence at the society which is the root of this problem.

So now you have been informed why things happen they way they happen - it is up to you to decide if you are going to continue to be part of the problem or work towards solving it.


I am not seeing how looting random stores and destroying things makes the situation better. It's just people taking advantage of a dire situation to get what they want.

I agree that there is a complex issue that needs to be worked out by society as a whole. I just don't agree that rioting and stealing crap is how it will be solved.
 
2020-06-03 11:21:34 AM  

sex_and_drugs_for_ian: chipaku: sex_and_drugs_for_ian: Not saying you're wrong, but you've got to name names if you're going to throw that out there.

Some people just don't use their accounts for long periods of time. The internet is a big place.

People who complain about old accounts are usually noobs who don't even know what fark was like back in the day. It was basically 4chan lite.

I admit to angrily walking away from Fark for long stretches, especially in the early days of my account

At times it seemed that people here were actually going out of their way to hurt my feelings.


You're not wrong. There are definitely a fair number of trolls here. I've been on Fark for 12 years now. I frequently read, but only occasionally post.
 
2020-06-03 11:32:21 AM  

Rapmaster2000: CanisNoir: Nope, just disheartened enough after participating in a completely peaceful protest last night to come on and discover a business bending over to mob violence out of fear.

Sure, Jan.


Dude, Fark is a place where people can post fairly anonymously...  Why bother responding to people if you're just going to call them liars?
 
2020-06-03 11:37:41 AM  

engrishmajor: sex_and_drugs_for_ian: chipaku: sex_and_drugs_for_ian: Not saying you're wrong, but you've got to name names if you're going to throw that out there.

Some people just don't use their accounts for long periods of time. The internet is a big place.

People who complain about old accounts are usually noobs who don't even know what fark was like back in the day. It was basically 4chan lite.

I admit to angrily walking away from Fark for long stretches, especially in the early days of my account

At times it seemed that people here were actually going out of their way to hurt my feelings.

You're not wrong. There are definitely a fair number of trolls here. I've been on Fark for 12 years now. I frequently read, but only occasionally post.


I made my account something like 12 days after you apparently and have also taken many breaks over the years.  Honestly, I was shocked how often people try to vilify you here just for holding a different opinion.  They take all the things you say and twist them to make you sound evil or racist.

Then to top it off, I got accused of being someone's alt account so then I wasn't even a real person anymore.  lol, like I created a fark account and occasionally posted completely separate from the other account for 12 years only to swoop in like farking superman or something for one thread that wasn't even a big deal.  Hilarious....
 
2020-06-03 11:41:47 AM  

Sean VasDeferens: You should check out many of the supporting comments here on Fark.


If someone is condoning looting and arson, call them out but don't conflate it with the peaceful protests or civil disobedience.
 
2020-06-03 11:48:57 AM  

Steakzilla: Dude, Fark is a place where people can post fairly anonymously... Why bother responding to people if you're just going to call them liars?


A couple of reasons. The first being the insinuation that I was only posting because it was an election year. No only was the statement false, but it was an attempt at using the falsehood to delegitimize my answer to the question. Not responding would have allowed that delegitimization to stand.

Secondly and more importantly, by expanding upon my reasons for the answer I was able to spark an actual constructive conversation with another Farker who actually took the time to read my posts. More importantly, that farker began the conversation with a tone that indicated they did not see me as an "enemy" to be defeated in debate, but rather as another participant in the conversation.

This allowed us both to explore our opinions on the issue, come to some points we agree upon and some points we disagree upon. I believe both of us came out of the exchange with more to think about. So in the end, I feel, responding to someone in the way I did produced an over all good that simply calling them a liar would not have.
 
2020-06-03 12:12:48 PM  
Lots of election year trolls popping up.

Protester does not equal looter.  We can support the protesters and condemn the looters.  This shouldn't be a dem vs rep thing.  Forget your politics and remember that you're a human first.  If you still feel that people supporting the protesters are wrong, then you may just be an asshole regardless of your political leanings.
 
2020-06-03 1:10:11 PM  

GreenSun: No, I am NOT a Trump supporter. Just because I don't support the rioters, looters, and criminals doesn't make me a Trump supporter.

There are peaceful protestors out there and they're getting the message across. Why destroy businesses and harm innocent people?

In the news, there are a lot of features about cops joining the peaceful protests. Why can't it be like that everywhere else?

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020​/05/31/i-took-helmet-and-laid-batons-d​own-michigan-sheriff-and-police-didnt-​disperse-their

In some places, protestors are trying to stop the violent types of protestors from destroying businesses. Even a young teen was able to help lead a protest to end into a peaceful one with nobody harmed and no businesses destroyed.

https://people.com/human-interest/16-y​ear-old-praised-for-leading-peaceful-p​rotests-detroit/

People have a choice in how they wish to protest. They can do it peacefully or violently at the cost of other people's safety and livelihood.

Have you ever thought about what would happen if the rioters destroyed your place of work, stole your stuff, broke into your home and beat you up? Would you still say it's justified that they destroyed your livelihood or ability to earn an income for your family? Would you say it's justified that they stole all the things that you worked hard for? Would you say it's justified that you or your family were beaten or killed when you tried to defend yourselves and your property?

It's so easy to say you support these violent rioters when you're not on the receiving end of their violence.


I don't get targeted by protestors because I'm supporting them. I don't get targeted by right-wing provocateurs because I'm large and I look like a crazy person.

So I guess you just need some empathy and not to look like such an easy target and you'll be able to live without fear.
 
2020-06-03 6:48:34 PM  

Steakzilla: Rapmaster2000: CanisNoir: Nope, just disheartened enough after participating in a completely peaceful protest last night to come on and discover a business bending over to mob violence out of fear.

Sure, Jan.

Dude, Fark is a place where people can post fairly anonymously...  Why bother responding to people if you're just going to call them liars?


Probably because "fairly anonymously" doesn't mean that account doesn't have a posting history, and calling out "how do you do, fellow protesters" bullshiat provides a heads-up for those who don't remember what that history is.
 
2020-06-03 6:56:20 PM  

WhoGAS: Lots of election year trolls popping up.

Protester does not equal looter.  We can support the protesters and condemn the looters.  This shouldn't be a dem vs rep thing.  Forget your politics and remember that you're a human first.  If you still feel that people supporting the protesters are wrong, then you may just be an asshole regardless of your political leanings.


I haven't seen even one person say protesting is wrong.  Not a single one.
 
2020-06-03 11:00:47 PM  

NobleHam: I tend to think of Nordstrom as a pretentious store for rich assholes, but that's pretty decent of them.


I tend to think of Nordstroms as being that weird Seattle thing Texas has for some reason out here, but when I'm back in Portland, I mostly tend to think of it as that place to chill at the edge of Pioneer Square when the westbound Blue Line is delayed since they have a sidewalk cafe on the northwest corner of the square.  The signal is timed to let you cross Broadway every time a train arrives.  Plus it's cheaper than Starbucks and has a smaller crowd.  But it's also a handy place to get a new dress shirt or pants in a hurry if the ones you're wearing gets messed up and you need to nail it at your next appointment.
 
2020-06-03 11:03:22 PM  

God-is-a-Taco: PS: Buy our products because after a week we have discussed things with shareholders and see free profit in meaningless social media platitudes.
Corporations are not people and they are not your friends.


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2020-06-03 11:13:18 PM  

waxbeans: GreenSun: "I am angry because something terrible is happening, so I'll just go destroy other people's livelihoods or harm innocents because causing pain and destruction on others will surely solve the problem!"

Hey, if Nord doesn't care about their business being destroyed and their merchandise being stolen, well that's them. I wonder what happens to their employees who actually used to work there but can't do so anymore. Sure hope Nord will pay these people some money to tide them over while Nord rebuilds their wrecked workplaces for these people.

Sure hope small businesses owned by locals and families are prepared to have their businesses destroyed and their means of income stolen. They don't have the same financial power as a big company as Nord which can shrug off a destroyed shop or two.

https://www.nbc12.com/2020/05/30/its-n​ot-fair-business-owners-clean-up-after​-overnight-protests/

Before you support these riots and looting, THINK ABOUT THE EMPLOYEES, THE FAMILIES, THE CHILDREN, THE PEOPLE WHO COUNT ON THEIR WORK TO SURVIVE.

George Floyd died because a nasty evil cop decided to kill him. How does this entitle you to destroying other innocent lives? You're no different than the evil cop you are supposed to be protesting against. If you truly believe that destroying people's businesses, livelihoods, and homes and harming innocents is what will finally bring justice and bring down racism in the US, then you are a heartless, cruel person with a delusional mind.

?????

Serious question,
You think society, this society, doesn't enable that cop and other cops to kill people, was pretty much impunity?


Followup,
You think society, this society, which judges people by the worth of the shiat they own, doesn't directly put capital in play?

/Granted, target selection really needs some work.
 
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