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2020-06-02 10:06:50 PM  
Hoooly smokes!!

*gets up, gets down*
 
2020-06-02 11:37:39 PM  
I'm with Grumpy Cat on this one.
 
2020-06-02 11:40:24 PM  
Good luck with that. If the department itself is biased, there won't be any demographic records. At most, use-of-force against John Doe of unknown race.
 
2020-06-02 11:40:33 PM  
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2020-06-02 11:42:31 PM  

lindalouwho: Hoooly smokes!!

*gets up, gets down*


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2020-06-02 11:42:34 PM  
Ubi pus, ibi evacua.
 
2020-06-02 11:46:23 PM  
Now arrest the other three murderers.
 
2020-06-02 11:47:39 PM  

Robinfro: Good luck with that. If the department itself is biased, there won't be any demographic records. At most, use-of-force against John Doe of unknown race.


Then the police report is incomplete and invalid.
 
2020-06-02 11:54:56 PM  
Why not? Every person those 4 idiots have ever arrested just got very credible grounds for appeal.
 
2020-06-02 11:55:22 PM  
"They expected nothing to happen because nothing happened so many times before."

This is the bulkshiat.  The first time he did something and nobody listened, it became something he could get away with.  As he pushed it farther and farther, and still got away with it, at some point they believe a campaign of misinformation exists against him and they dismiss all of it.

I've seen how police handle things like that, and bad ones migrate towards him while the guys trying to make a living and not be poster children for cop vs cop shootouts, migrate away from him. Which allows him to get away with more, and form his own little Club of arseholes.

Maybe it didn't happen this way, but I'm betting it did.  Seen it too many times in too many organizations.  And higher ups believe everything they are told, and don't look deeper, because they're afraid of what they will find, and end their careers fighting it.

Because politicians don't want scandals like that revealed on their watch.

The places where police leaders are elected don't have this problem.  The places where they are appointed by politicians HAVE this problem.

Make them electable and report to the people instead of politicians.  It might not fix it all, but I bet there's a big change easily seen 10 Years from now, if that happens.  Militarization won't be a priority anymore.  Hiding bad seeds becomes a liability instead of a mandatory practice.  Change should happen.

/my 2 cents
 
2020-06-02 11:55:29 PM  

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: Now arrest the other three murderers.


Right?  Really wondering when these other three shoes are going to drop.
 
2020-06-02 11:55:43 PM  
I'm not sure if this means that the system is broken, or that it works.
It definitely means that the situation is bad.
 
2020-06-02 11:58:45 PM  

aungen: "They expected nothing to happen because nothing happened so many times before."

This is the bulkshiat.  The first time he did something and nobody listened, it became something he could get away with.  As he pushed it farther and farther, and still got away with it, at some point they believe a campaign of misinformation exists against him and they dismiss all of it.

I've seen how police handle things like that, and bad ones migrate towards him while the guys trying to make a living and not be poster children for cop vs cop shootouts, migrate away from him. Which allows him to get away with more, and form his own little Club of arseholes.

Maybe it didn't happen this way, but I'm betting it did.  Seen it too many times in too many organizations.  And higher ups believe everything they are told, and don't look deeper, because they're afraid of what they will find, and end their careers fighting it.

Because politicians don't want scandals like that revealed on their watch.

The places where police leaders are elected don't have this problem.  The places where they are appointed by politicians HAVE this problem.

Make them electable and report to the people instead of politicians.  It might not fix it all, but I bet there's a big change easily seen 10 Years from now, if that happens.  Militarization won't be a priority anymore.  Hiding bad seeds becomes a liability instead of a mandatory practice.  Change should happen.

/my 2 cents


joe arpaio
 
2020-06-03 12:02:21 AM  

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: Now arrest the other three murderers.


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2020-06-03 12:04:24 AM  

jzeeb: joe arpaio


Lee Baca.
 
2020-06-03 12:12:44 AM  

Trocadero: jzeeb: joe arpaio

Lee Baca.


Jabba the Hutt
 
2020-06-03 12:20:50 AM  

Call the Guy: Trocadero: jzeeb: joe arpaio

Lee Baca.

Jabba the Hutt


Gozer the Traveler
 
2020-06-03 12:23:16 AM  
What 'they' (governments of each state) really need to do is a systematic review of every police agency under their control...  looking for systematic abuses like this.

Yes, it would cost money, take time, and cause a god awful uproar from the dirty cops who know that their time is numbered...  but it would send the right message to the people...
 
2020-06-03 12:23:25 AM  
Consent decrees for everyone!

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2020-06-03 12:24:32 AM  
From the related article, (linked in the article),

"The independent autopsy was conducted by Dr. Allecia M. Wilson of the University of Michigan and Dr. Michael Baden, a former New York City medical examiner, who also conducted an independent autopsy on Jeffrey Epstein and testified at the O.J. Simpson trial. Their autopsy also found that Floyd died not just because Chauvin kept his knee on Floyd's neck, but because the other officers helped hold Floyd down. For instance, another officer's knee, pressed against Floyd's back, reportedly compressed his lungs and made it harder for him to breathe. "

3 to go.
 
2020-06-03 12:26:29 AM  

GrogSmash: What 'they' (governments of each state) really need to do is a systematic review of every police agency under their control...  looking for systematic abuses like this.


Psssh...We don't do preventative care in this country.  We're too stupid.

We'll just have to wait for a high-profile, indefensible cop murder to be caught on camera from multiple angles in every city in America and reform them one by one.  It should only take another 200 years or so.
 
2020-06-03 12:32:18 AM  

aungen: "They expected nothing to happen because nothing happened so many times before."

This is the bulkshiat.  The first time he did something and nobody listened, it became something he could get away with.  As he pushed it farther and farther, and still got away with it, at some point they believe a campaign of misinformation exists against him and they dismiss all of it.

I've seen how police handle things like that, and bad ones migrate towards him while the guys trying to make a living and not be poster children for cop vs cop shootouts, migrate away from him. Which allows him to get away with more, and form his own little Club of arseholes.

Maybe it didn't happen this way, but I'm betting it did.  Seen it too many times in too many organizations.  And higher ups believe everything they are told, and don't look deeper, because they're afraid of what they will find, and end their careers fighting it.

Because politicians don't want scandals like that revealed on their watch.

The places where police leaders are elected don't have this problem.  The places where they are appointed by politicians HAVE this problem.

Make them electable and report to the people instead of politicians.  It might not fix it all, but I bet there's a big change easily seen 10 Years from now, if that happens.  Militarization won't be a priority anymore.  Hiding bad seeds becomes a liability instead of a mandatory practice.  Change should happen.

/my 2 cents


Honestly, for Minneapolis, my take is that the police chief isn't all that bad, and the city council has been plenty open about their frustrations with the police department. I've mentioned this in other threads but the problem seems to be with the rank and file, and their union. The union president, Bob Kroll, is a piece of work.

Also, as someone else pointed out with mentioning Joe Arpaio. Elections only help if the majority of the population sees and has a problem with the police harassing minorities. The law and order mantra seems to work all to many times.
 
2020-06-03 12:32:56 AM  
now we need to do these gestures just to look good.
 
2020-06-03 12:33:36 AM  
Investigations are common enough.  This ain't real change yet.  The crowd will not be appeased, especially since the state still can't seem to figure out if the three other officers committed a crime.
 
2020-06-03 12:36:18 AM  
Haven't you heard? Police work is just so darned difficult and police have to make so many split second decisions that, gosh darn it, we just have to give them the benefit of the doubt by letting them kill people now and then. It just wouldn't be fair to second guess them.
 
2020-06-03 12:37:41 AM  

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: Now arrest the other three murderers.


They told the family they would but they obviously arent.
 
2020-06-03 12:38:33 AM  

Bajtaur: Honestly, for Minneapolis, my take is that the police chief isn't all that bad, ...



No, they are that bad. They let a psychopath keep working, complaint after complaint, knowing they had a ticking time bomb on their hands. And even when he went off, all they did was fire him.

The decision had to be taken out of his hands to get anywhere, and we still need three more arrests. That should tell you that the corruption goes even higher, because they're seeking the minimum necessary to appease people and get back to "business as usual".
 
2020-06-03 12:41:06 AM  

aungen: "They expected nothing to happen because nothing happened so many times before."

This is the bulkshiat.  The first time he did something and nobody listened, it became something he could get away with.


The antecedent of "they" is the community, not the officer. It speaks to the learned helplessness of the community.
 
2020-06-03 12:44:08 AM  
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2020-06-03 12:46:06 AM  

weilawei: Bajtaur: Honestly, for Minneapolis, my take is that the police chief isn't all that bad, ...


No, they are that bad. They let a psychopath keep working, complaint after complaint, knowing they had a ticking time bomb on their hands. And even when he went off, all they did was fire him.

The decision had to be taken out of his hands to get anywhere, and we still need three more arrests. That should tell you that the corruption goes even higher, because they're seeking the minimum necessary to appease people and get back to "business as usual".


Do you have any idea how hard it is to fire a police office, even a police officer who is known to be a psychopath and an abuser?

It's nearly impossible.

Even now, the Minneapolis police union is stating that the four cops who were fired for murdering George Floyd had their due process rights violated, and is making noises that they might file a grievance if they're not reinstated
 
2020-06-03 12:48:10 AM  

blockhouse: It's nearly impossible.


I'm amazed that riots haven't expedited the speedy due processing of them all. Given that the President is involved, I'm not surprised it's become impossible.
 
2020-06-03 1:02:30 AM  

aungen: "They expected nothing to happen because nothing happened so many times before."

This is the bulkshiat.  The first time he did something and nobody listened, it became something he could get away with.  As he pushed it farther and farther, and still got away with it, at some point they believe a campaign of misinformation exists against him and they dismiss all of it.

I've seen how police handle things like that, and bad ones migrate towards him while the guys trying to make a living and not be poster children for cop vs cop shootouts, migrate away from him. Which allows him to get away with more, and form his own little Club of arseholes.

Maybe it didn't happen this way, but I'm betting it did.  Seen it too many times in too many organizations.  And higher ups believe everything they are told, and don't look deeper, because they're afraid of what they will find, and end their careers fighting it.

Because politicians don't want scandals like that revealed on their watch.

The places where police leaders are elected don't have this problem.  The places where they are appointed by politicians HAVE this problem.

Make them electable and report to the people instead of politicians.  It might not fix it all, but I bet there's a big change easily seen 10 Years from now, if that happens.  Militarization won't be a priority anymore.  Hiding bad seeds becomes a liability instead of a mandatory practice.  Change should happen.

/my 2 cents


Police union leaders are elected
 
2020-06-03 1:03:25 AM  

aungen: "They expected nothing to happen because nothing happened so many times before."

This is the bulkshiat.  The first time he did something and nobody listened, it became something he could get away with.  As he pushed it farther and farther, and still got away with it, at some point they believe a campaign of misinformation exists against him and they dismiss all of it.

I've seen how police handle things like that, and bad ones migrate towards him while the guys trying to make a living and not be poster children for cop vs cop shootouts, migrate away from him. Which allows him to get away with more, and form his own little Club of arseholes.

Maybe it didn't happen this way, but I'm betting it did.  Seen it too many times in too many organizations.  And higher ups believe everything they are told, and don't look deeper, because they're afraid of what they will find, and end their careers fighting it.

Because politicians don't want scandals like that revealed on their watch.

The places where police leaders are elected don't have this problem.  The places where they are appointed by politicians HAVE this problem.

Make them electable and report to the people instead of politicians.  It might not fix it all, but I bet there's a big change easily seen 10 Years from now, if that happens.  Militarization won't be a priority anymore.  Hiding bad seeds becomes a liability instead of a mandatory practice.  Change should happen.

/my 2 cents


Now replace police officer with congresscritter and police station with White House and you have exactly the same damn problem.
 
2020-06-03 1:03:42 AM  
Bajtaur:

Yeah. Arpaio is a spectacular exception.  My fix wouldn't solve that, but it might fix a hell of a lot of problems.

Switching from an appointed position to elected position changes the leadership's motives.  And there may need to be a clause in the Police union as well, because bad seeds always infiltrate.

Either way, the fix has to be systemic and provide accountability to the police leadership in chain of command, as well as union.
They have to be exposed to popular vote in some direct way so an extremely unhappy populace can remove them.
 
2020-06-03 1:18:01 AM  
40 years too late, but I'll take it.
 
2020-06-03 1:25:53 AM  
Can I haz hopey? Changey? A smidgeon of justice, competence and decency?

Please sir, may I have some more cruel gruel?
 
2020-06-03 1:51:28 AM  

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: Now arrest the other three murderers.


I agree, they should have been arrested already.

But the legal system doesn't work that way. 

/It should, but it doesn't
//DA needs time to build case.  Unlike civilians, police spend that time outside of jail.
///case is already exceptional in that all officers were fired.  Usually they get a few months of paid vacation, Then come back after the acquittal refreshed and ready to break more laws.
////I'm a little cynical.
 
2020-06-03 2:46:58 AM  

Baloo Uriza: Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: Now arrest the other three murderers.

Right?  Really wondering when these other three shoes are going to drop.


Probably on some other folks' necks.

/ftp
 
2020-06-03 3:04:52 AM  
wjayw
 
2020-06-03 3:08:12 AM  

weilawei: Bajtaur: Honestly, for Minneapolis, my take is that the police chief isn't all that bad, ...


No, they are that bad. They let a psychopath keep working, complaint after complaint, knowing they had a ticking time bomb on their hands. And even when he went off, all they did was fire him.

The decision had to be taken out of his hands to get anywhere, and we still need three more arrests. That should tell you that the corruption goes even higher, because they're seeking the minimum necessary to appease people and get back to "business as usual".


Four more arrests. That original ME needs to sing like a f*cking bird being dipped in hot tar.
 
2020-06-03 3:29:00 AM  

The Dog Ate My Homework: Haven't you heard? Police work is just so darned difficult and police have to make so many split second decisions that, gosh darn it, we just have to give them the benefit of the doubt by letting them kill people now and then. It just wouldn't be fair to second guess them.


He kept his knee on Floyd's neck for up to 10 minutes. That's 600 split second decisions! Us mere civilians can't even begin to fathom how stressful it must be to make a split second decision every farking second. He should be given a pat on the back and a raise.
 
2020-06-03 3:59:06 AM  

treesloth: Call the Guy: Trocadero: jzeeb: joe arpaio

Lee Baca.

Jabba the Hutt

Gozer the Traveler


You called?
 
2020-06-03 4:03:37 AM  

gozar_the_destroyer: treesloth: Call the Guy: Trocadero: jzeeb: joe arpaio

Lee Baca.

Jabba the Hutt

Gozer the Traveler

You called?


Do you like grubs?
 
2020-06-03 4:52:01 AM  
How do you do proper independent reviews of deaths and abuse by police?  As broken as things are now, I think 3 independent review boards of each death should be done.  Maybe one of those should be done with panel members elected like juries.  One local, one state (but not local) and one made up from people out of state.  Pay those people reasonable rates for their time (not the stupid jury pay), keep them anonymous, give them grand jury status and maybe there will be some accountability.
 
2020-06-03 5:04:42 AM  
We need to let the states vote, and have a safe, legal divorce.  We have irreconcilable differences.  The new progressive nation can get rid of all guns and put an end to this violence.
 
2020-06-03 5:15:41 AM  

blockhouse: weilawei: Bajtaur: Honestly, for Minneapolis, my take is that the police chief isn't all that bad, ...


No, they are that bad. They let a psychopath keep working, complaint after complaint, knowing they had a ticking time bomb on their hands. And even when he went off, all they did was fire him.

The decision had to be taken out of his hands to get anywhere, and we still need three more arrests. That should tell you that the corruption goes even higher, because they're seeking the minimum necessary to appease people and get back to "business as usual".

Do you have any idea how hard it is to fire a police office, even a police officer who is known to be a psychopath and an abuser?

It's nearly impossible.

Even now, the Minneapolis police union is stating that the four cops who were fired for murdering George Floyd had their due process rights violated, and is making noises that they might file a grievance if they're not reinstated


Lol. They can file a grievance on DEEEEEZ NUTZ! Seriously though, these cops were hiding during Covid and are ready to beat. Act accordingly.
 
2020-06-03 5:48:00 AM  
Oh noes, a strongly worded letter!  That'll teach 'em!
 
2020-06-03 8:00:14 AM  
Bajtaur:

Honestly, for Minneapolis, my take is that the police chief isn't all that bad, and the city council has been plenty open about their frustrations with the police department. I've mentioned this in other threads but the problem seems to be with the rank and file, and their union. The union president, Bob Kroll, is a piece of work.


This. The union president, Bob Kroll, is the poster child for cops that want to bully people and get away with it. If he doesn't get forced into retirement nothing is going to change, except a lot more bodycam malfunctions.
 
2020-06-03 8:05:36 AM  

GrogSmash: What 'they' (governments of each state) really need to do is a systematic review of every police agency under their control...  looking for systematic abuses like this.

Yes, it would cost money, take time, and cause a god awful uproar from the dirty cops who know that their time is numbered...  but it would send the right message to the people...


Sounds like a more reasonable plan than burning and looting, so yeah, go for it.
 
2020-06-03 8:05:38 AM  
Oh dear! A complaint? Whatever next? A strongly worded letter from the United Nations?
 
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