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2020-06-02 5:10:36 PM  
the Clash - Know Your Rights
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//we need you now more than ever, Joe
 
2020-06-02 5:33:08 PM  
You don't have any.

Sure, after the fact you can try and do something about the violations. But if the police decide that you're getting beaten, gassed, shot, and arrested, then that is what's going to happen.
 
2020-06-02 5:45:08 PM  

Gubbo: You don't have any.

Sure, after the fact you can try and do something about the violations. But if the police decide that you're getting beaten, gassed, shot, and arrested, then that is what's going to happen.


Don't forget murder.  It's what we're here for.
 
2020-06-02 5:53:50 PM  
The crowd in DC is bigly yuuuuge right now
 
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2020-06-02 5:55:10 PM  
Be prepared to have your rights ignored, and ignored even further if you mention it.  :(
 
2020-06-02 5:55:32 PM  

cretinbob: [Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/XlqSSWXb​cOw] //we need you now more than ever, Joe


Murder is a crime, unless it is done by a policeman or an aristocrat.
 
2020-06-02 5:56:08 PM  
Fight back against injustice.
Don't let people make you disown rioters and looters to protect the validity of the cause.
Fight back against injustice.
Don't let people forget why you're here.
Fight back against injustice.
Don't let police brutalize and murder you for fighting injustice. Fight with force if force is used against you.
Fight back against injustice.
 
2020-06-02 5:56:41 PM  
if you're planning to protest, be equipped.
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Meanwhile, the world aint putting sanctions on China for Hong Kong or sanctions on Trump for everything. The world is a goddamn joke... all because of money. Fark money, get a farking soul.
 
2020-06-02 5:57:31 PM  
https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights​/​protesters-rights/

And understand the the police don't understand anything. There are pocket recording apps for your phone. Always be recording if the police are around. They will lie to save themselves.
 
2020-06-02 6:00:25 PM  
I think if you refrain from vandalism and let people by that want to get by you should be ok.
 
2020-06-02 6:03:09 PM  

flappy_penguin: The crowd in DC is bigly yuuuuge right now


and this pussy-ass biatch had another fence put around his bunker.

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2020-06-02 6:03:39 PM  
"Emerson Sykes is a staff attorney with the ACLU..."

Rights.

Let me know when the ACLU's list of baseline rights goes from 9 to the actual 10 that are written in the constitution.  Until then,

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2020-06-02 6:05:00 PM  
Know Your Rights

/Murder is a Crime
//Unless....
///The Clash, of course.
 
2020-06-02 6:07:17 PM  
If you stay at home and mind your own business, odds are nobody will bother you.
 
2020-06-02 6:07:48 PM  

Abox: I think if you refrain from vandalism and let people by that want to get by you should be ok.


You sweet summer child you.
 
2020-06-02 6:08:14 PM  

Chain Smokes Freely: If you stay at home and mind your own business, odds are nobody will bother you.


The New American Way.
 
2020-06-02 6:08:37 PM  

Chain Smokes Freely: If you stay at home and mind your own business, odds are nobody will bother you.


Comply Citizen
 
2020-06-02 6:09:01 PM  

Abox: I think if you refrain from vandalism and let people by that want to get by you should be ok.


Hugs and fancy words aren't good enough to root out fascism and system oppression.
 
2020-06-02 6:11:42 PM  

bluejeansonfire: Abox: I think if you refrain from vandalism and let people by that want to get by you should be ok.

Hugs and fancy words aren't good enough to root out fascism and system oppression.


Those silly people in Boston. Throwing all that good tea into the harbor. Why couldn't they have just have moved aside for the British
 
2020-06-02 6:12:01 PM  

AngryDragon: "Emerson Sykes is a staff attorney with the ACLU..."

Rights.

Let me know when the ACLU's list of baseline rights goes from 9 to the actual 10 that are written in the constitution.  Until then,

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awww, you mean the one they said "yeah, we're in favor of, but honestly, there's enough money supporting it, so we're not going to spend our money on it, we've got other things to do"

Get over it.
 
2020-06-02 6:12:38 PM  

Abox: I think if you refrain from vandalism and let people by that want to get by you should be ok.


I agree with you wholeheartedly. Often times, the best way to help is to get out of the way, and the best way to avoid getting popped for looting is to not loot in the first place.

Every now and then I read an article about someone who died falling off a cliff. That's like the easiest way not to die. Staying home and minding your own business is the second easiest way.
 
2020-06-02 6:13:12 PM  
You have the right to be pepper sprayed in the face.
If you have not been pepper sprayed in the face please ask the nearest pig (cop) to spray you.
You have the right to be kicked, even if you are on your knees.
You have the right to be dragged from your car and beaten.
You have the right to be tear gassed so the President can make a campaign video.
You have the right to be shot in the eye and permanently blinded.
If you are the Press we don't care. These rights also apply to you.
 
2020-06-02 6:14:24 PM  

cretinbob: [Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/XlqSSWXb​cOw] //we need you now more than ever, Joe


I don't throw around the "Done in one" phrase lightly.

But this thread, was done in one.

//and it's been suggested, in some quarters, that this is not enough
 
2020-06-02 6:15:19 PM  

Chain Smokes Freely: If you stay at home and mind your own business, odds are nobody will bother you.


Tell that to Botham Jean.
 
2020-06-02 6:15:57 PM  

Deathbymeteor: AngryDragon: "Emerson Sykes is a staff attorney with the ACLU..."

Rights.

Let me know when the ACLU's list of baseline rights goes from 9 to the actual 10 that are written in the constitution.  Until then,

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awww, you mean the one they said "yeah, we're in favor of, but honestly, there's enough money supporting it, so we're not going to spend our money on it, we've got other things to do"

Get over it.

ACLU Position
Given the reference to "a well regulated Militia" and "the security of a free State," the ACLU has long taken the position that the Second Amendment protects a collective right rather than an individual right. For seven decades, the Supreme Court's 1939 decision in United States v. Miller was widely understood to have endorsed that view...In striking down Washington D.C.'s handgun ban by a 5-4 vote, the Supreme Court's decision in D.C. v. Heller held for the first time that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to keep and bear arms, whether or not associated with a state militia. The ACLU disagrees with the Supreme Court's conclusion about the nature of the right protected by the Second Amendment."So yeah.  You're full of shiat.
 
2020-06-02 6:18:34 PM  

AngryDragon: "Emerson Sykes is a staff attorney with the ACLU..."

Rights.

Let me know when the ACLU's list of baseline rights goes from 9 to the actual 10 that are written in the constitution.  Until then,

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If you're referring to what I think you're referring to, you should know that every defender of the Second Amendment is up to bat right now. This is their time to put up or shut up.

If 2A fans defend American protesters against the police and military, I will acknowledge that 2A has value, as should everyone. If, however, 2A fans don't fight back against the police and domestically-deployed military or otherwise join the oppressors, they should be forever shamed and shunned, and the Second Amendment will be firmly proven to be worthless garbage.
 
2020-06-02 6:32:26 PM  

Gubbo: bluejeansonfire: Abox: I think if you refrain from vandalism and let people by that want to get by you should be ok.

Hugs and fancy words aren't good enough to root out fascism and system oppression.

Those silly people in Boston. Throwing all that good tea into the harbor. Why couldn't they have just have moved aside for the British


They didn't smash their own store fronts and steal from local merchants.
 
2020-06-02 6:35:55 PM  
Knowing your rights is one thing. Expecting police and the national guard to respect those rights is a completely different story. They won't because they have been trained to believe they are the ultimate authority in everything. Police in the US are supposed to be civilians but they have become more and more militarized in the past 30 years. There is zero reason for them to carry full size assault rifles. A sidearm is all they should have and SWAT should be limited to civilian versions of the MP5 or similar guns that are not automatic weapons. It's time to say enough is enough and put the police back in their place of serving and protecting the public.

Only way the US is going to learn it's lesson and make significant change is if people exercise their 2nd Amendment rights and take the lives of the tyrants allowing these kinds of things to happen in the US.

You can ban me for saying it but that is what I think. Unless and until enough people in power die violently they will never change the way they operate. They need to fear the people enough that it overrides their greed and lust for power. That is the ONLY way we will get real change in our nation.

I'm not going to mourn any police officers that are killed because of this. I'm not going to mourn any elected officials who are assassinated. I'll simply state this. They have had over 100 years to stop beating and killing unarmed people (especially targeted minorities) and the time for civil and peaceful protests is over. They have proven time and time again that they one and only thing they recognize is the use of violence to force compliance. There are 330 million people in the US and 150k law enforcement officers.This is not a fight they can win with their old tactics.

Dead politicians and law enforcement officers are the only way left to stop the violence from the law enforcement community on citizens. The US has done little to protect former slaves after the Civil War and did even less in the years since to make every US citizen equal under the law. It's time for that cycle to end once and for all. Mitch McConnell will continue to impede any legislation to rein in law enforcement unless he believes he might be in mortal danger if he doesn't support it. Their job is to make sure the Constitutional rights of every citizen is protected and that they put the US first and they are no longer doing that. They are driven by greed and their lust for power. They must fear something more than that before their votes will change and we can move forward. So swing the ban hammer if you must but the fact that 155 years after the Civil War we are still dealing with white supremacists in this country is insane and 155 years of bullshiat is enough, it's time we made that clear to all of our elected officials at every level from a city council to the white house.

If the country can't move forward with those kind of people in it then it's time we removed those people. They hold us back and weaken us immensely both literally and figuratively in the eyes of the rest of the world. We are a joke and it's time to expel the clowns causing our nation to be the laughing stock of the world.
 
2020-06-02 6:38:10 PM  
If you're in DC watch out for "Divine Law & Order"
It's like Pence and Trump got together and had a baby.

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2020-06-02 6:38:23 PM  
Remember, citizens: "Rights" and "Freedom" both are just the politically correct way to say "Money".
 
2020-06-02 6:43:38 PM  

Chain Smokes Freely: If you stay at home and mind your own business, odds are nobody will bother you.


That's a dead-on impersonation of a Trumper addressing people like Ahmaud Arbery.
 
2020-06-02 6:45:40 PM  
I'm absolutely astonished, as a Canadian, that there isn't an armed insurrection going on. That people are still protesting in the face of armoured, militarized police is crazy. Getting your ass kicked to shame your enemies for their actions only works if your enemies can feel shame. The police are rioting; they don't feel shame. If they felt shame they'd resign from the police.
 
2020-06-02 6:45:50 PM  
The government can't stop you from peacefully protesting, but they can impose some restrictions on the time, place and manner of the protest -- for example, barring protesters from walking onto a public highway or instituting a curfew that affects when protests end, Sykes said.

Well OK then, happy he cleared that one up.
 
2020-06-02 6:48:06 PM  

flappy_penguin: The crowd in DC is bigly yuuuuge right now


Coronavirus approves.
 
2020-06-02 6:53:22 PM  

bluejeansonfire: If you're referring to what I think you're referring to, you should know that every defender of the Second Amendment is up to bat right now. This is their time to put up or shut up.


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2020-06-02 6:55:03 PM  

Nurglitch: I'm absolutely astonished, as a Canadian, that there isn't an armed insurrection going on. That people are still protesting in the face of armoured, militarized police is crazy. Getting your ass kicked to shame your enemies for their actions only works if your enemies can feel shame. The police are rioting; they don't feel shame. If they felt shame they'd resign from the police.


In the US, the vast majority of the citizens with heavy weaponry are on the same side as the cops. They only act like they hate the government after a Democrat gets elected.
 
2020-06-02 6:57:26 PM  

Gubbo: You don't have any.

Sure, after the fact you can try and do something about the violations. But if the police decide that you're getting beaten, gassed, shot, and arrested, then that is what's going to happen.


This.

And it's something that must be said.  In fact, i did say it during dinner tonight...

You have to admire the protesters.  I wish I could join them.  But I cannot put my shiat on the line like that.  I'm too old for that.  I can't get arrested, or beaten, or gassed, or any other of 100 things that could happen.  It's just too big of a risk for me.  I'll stay off to the side and cheer them on.

I wonder if the protesters themselves realize that that is exactly the level of danger they are exposing themselves to.  I hope so.  Because that's the reality of it.

And that is why I admire them.  It takes balls of iron to take that level of risk.  If I was 30 year younger with less at risk I'd be out there with them.  It makes me feel like a coward just for saying that.  But there you have it.
 
2020-06-02 6:57:57 PM  

AngryDragon: "Emerson Sykes is a staff attorney with the ACLU..."

Rights.

Let me know when the ACLU's list of baseline rights goes from 9 to the actual 10 that are written in the constitution.  Until then,

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It's more like 7.5 on a good day - 2 and 10 may as well not exist, along with parts of the 1st.
 
2020-06-02 6:58:30 PM  

Abox: Gubbo: bluejeansonfire: Abox: I think if you refrain from vandalism and let people by that want to get by you should be ok.

Hugs and fancy words aren't good enough to root out fascism and system oppression.

Those silly people in Boston. Throwing all that good tea into the harbor. Why couldn't they have just have moved aside for the British

They didn't smash their own store fronts and steal from local merchants.


So you're another one of those people that believes insurable belongings matter more than human life.

F*ck off.
 
2020-06-02 6:59:04 PM  

bluejeansonfire: Abox: Gubbo: bluejeansonfire: Abox: I think if you refrain from vandalism and let people by that want to get by you should be ok.

Hugs and fancy words aren't good enough to root out fascism and system oppression.

Those silly people in Boston. Throwing all that good tea into the harbor. Why couldn't they have just have moved aside for the British

They didn't smash their own store fronts and steal from local merchants.

So you're another one of those people that believes insurable belongings matter more than human life.

F*ck off.


Yes.
 
2020-06-02 6:59:23 PM  

AngryDragon: Let me know when the ACLU's list of baseline rights goes from 9 to the actual 10 that are written in the constitution.  Until then,


Hell, they have even pulled their support from due process lately.
 
2020-06-02 7:00:13 PM  

bluejeansonfire: Abox: Gubbo: bluejeansonfire: Abox: I think if you refrain from vandalism and let people by that want to get by you should be ok.

Hugs and fancy words aren't good enough to root out fascism and system oppression.

Those silly people in Boston. Throwing all that good tea into the harbor. Why couldn't they have just have moved aside for the British

They didn't smash their own store fronts and steal from local merchants.

So you're another one of those people that believes insurable belongings matter more than human life.

F*ck off.


Why qualify it with insurable?  If I have something uninsurable, can I kill to stop the destruction or theft of that?

Beyond that, unless you're paying the premiums as well as any increases after claims are made, where is someone else's insurance any of your business?
 
2020-06-02 7:01:10 PM  

AngryDragon: Deathbymeteor: AngryDragon: "Emerson Sykes is a staff attorney with the ACLU..."

Rights.

Let me know when the ACLU's list of baseline rights goes from 9 to the actual 10 that are written in the constitution.  Until then,

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awww, you mean the one they said "yeah, we're in favor of, but honestly, there's enough money supporting it, so we're not going to spend our money on it, we've got other things to do"

Get over it.
ACLU Position
Given the reference to "a well regulated Militia" and "the security of a free State," the ACLU has long taken the position that the Second Amendment protects a collective right rather than an individual right. For seven decades, the Supreme Court's 1939 decision in United States v. Miller was widely understood to have endorsed that view...In striking down Washington D.C.'s handgun ban by a 5-4 vote, the Supreme Court's decision in D.C. v. Heller held for the first time that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to keep and bear arms, whether or not associated with a state militia. The ACLU disagrees with the Supreme Court's conclusion about the nature of the right protected by the Second Amendment."So yeah.  You're full of shiat.


Ah yes. Heller. The decision that was deliberately misinterpreted to turn the "we don't have a standing army yet so we need SOME people to defend us until we do" amendment into the "hurr durr I can buy bang toys" amendment.

Presenting Heller as some defense of 2A is laughable.

So, yeah. You're full of sh*t.
 
2020-06-02 7:01:11 PM  

HeadLever: AngryDragon: Let me know when the ACLU's list of baseline rights goes from 9 to the actual 10 that are written in the constitution.  Until then,

Hell, they have even pulled their support from due process lately.


Forgot about that.  The BoR is ~7.2 or so down from the original 10.
 
2020-06-02 7:01:42 PM  

Abox: Gubbo: bluejeansonfire: Abox: I think if you refrain from vandalism and let people by that want to get by you should be ok.

Hugs and fancy words aren't good enough to root out fascism and system oppression.

Those silly people in Boston. Throwing all that good tea into the harbor. Why couldn't they have just have moved aside for the British

They didn't smash their own store fronts and steal from local merchants.


You do understand that the "Protesters" and the "Rioters" are two separate groups, yes?
 
2020-06-02 7:02:15 PM  

bluejeansonfire: AngryDragon: Deathbymeteor: AngryDragon: "Emerson Sykes is a staff attorney with the ACLU..."

Rights.

Let me know when the ACLU's list of baseline rights goes from 9 to the actual 10 that are written in the constitution.  Until then,

[Fark user image 250x272]

awww, you mean the one they said "yeah, we're in favor of, but honestly, there's enough money supporting it, so we're not going to spend our money on it, we've got other things to do"

Get over it.
ACLU Position
Given the reference to "a well regulated Militia" and "the security of a free State," the ACLU has long taken the position that the Second Amendment protects a collective right rather than an individual right. For seven decades, the Supreme Court's 1939 decision in United States v. Miller was widely understood to have endorsed that view...In striking down Washington D.C.'s handgun ban by a 5-4 vote, the Supreme Court's decision in D.C. v. Heller held for the first time that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to keep and bear arms, whether or not associated with a state militia. The ACLU disagrees with the Supreme Court's conclusion about the nature of the right protected by the Second Amendment."So yeah.  You're full of shiat.

Ah yes. Heller. The decision that was deliberately misinterpreted to turn the "we don't have a standing army yet so we need SOME people to defend us until we do" amendment into the "hurr durr I can buy bang toys" amendment.

Presenting Heller as some defense of 2A is laughable.

So, yeah. You're full of sh*t.


Ah yes, the view that the 2nd amendment is not an individual right like all the other individual rights in the Bill of Rights.
 
2020-06-02 7:03:49 PM  

Chain Smokes Freely: If you stay at home and mind your own business, odds are nobody will bother you.


Except if you're standing on your porch and then they shoot you for being outside.
 
2020-06-02 7:04:03 PM  

AngryDragon: Deathbymeteor: AngryDragon: "Emerson Sykes is a staff attorney with the ACLU..."

Rights.

Let me know when the ACLU's list of baseline rights goes from 9 to the actual 10 that are written in the constitution.  Until then,

[Fark user image 250x272]

awww, you mean the one they said "yeah, we're in favor of, but honestly, there's enough money supporting it, so we're not going to spend our money on it, we've got other things to do"

Get over it.
ACLU Position
Given the reference to "a well regulated Militia" and "the security of a free State," the ACLU has long taken the position that the Second Amendment protects a collective right rather than an individual right. For seven decades, the Supreme Court's 1939 decision in United States v. Miller was widely understood to have endorsed that view...In striking down Washington D.C.'s handgun ban by a 5-4 vote, the Supreme Court's decision in D.C. v. Heller held for the first time that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to keep and bear arms, whether or not associated with a state militia. The ACLU disagrees with the Supreme Court's conclusion about the nature of the right protected by the Second Amendment."So yeah.  You're full of shiat.


if only there wasn't an entire position stated there that was more nuanced than what you claim...oh wait, there is:

"the ACLU has long taken the position that the Second Amendment protects a collective right rather than an individual right. For seven decades, the Supreme Court's 1939 decision in United States v. Miller was widely understood to have endorsed that view. "

So, they still approve of the rights granted by the 2nd, but not the current interpretation.  There's your shiat sandwich.  Make sure you take a really big bite and smile.
 
2020-06-02 7:05:14 PM  

Gubbo: bluejeansonfire: Abox: I think if you refrain from vandalism and let people by that want to get by you should be ok.

Hugs and fancy words aren't good enough to root out fascism and system oppression.

Those silly people in Boston. Throwing all that good tea into the harbor. Why couldn't they have just have moved aside for the British


They didn't burn down the boats, or the harbor or the city.
 
2020-06-02 7:05:53 PM  

The Dog Ate My Homework: In the US, the vast majority of the citizens with heavy weaponry are on the same side as the cops. They only act like they hate the government after a Democrat gets elected.


The problem with this point is that it is to simplistic - no one hates the government per se - you either agree with their actions and policies or you don't.  Everyone judges the government by their actions.  As such, there are some actions you agree with and some actions that you don't.

Obvisouly, right leaning people are going to be more critical when the government policies and actions move left and vice versa for the left.

A few things that the vast majority of people agree with:
1) what happened to George was abhorrent
2) rioting and looting is bad

Sadly, this isn't enough for us to figure out how to deal with the issues of the past few days.
 
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